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CRIMECRUNCHER wrote: Ebonics?  What in the world does ebonics have to do with a quality education, or more importantly with getting a god job after graduation?  The last time i heard, English is the language used in most work environments in America today, and far too many HS grads are severly defficient in english.
I guess that you also have a swachstiker in your living room and run around burning crosses in your white sheets over the weekend too!

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Ebonics?  What in the world does ebonics have to do with a quality education, or more importantly with getting a god job after graduation?  The last time i heard, English is the language used in most work environments in America today, and far too many HS grads are severly defficient in english.

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Your just interested in getting new band uniforms you suck up. Ive seen your band and that program is at a all time low. I have spend alot time in the school, and i speak to many of the teachers that still remember when that school was proud. You don't remember because you have never been a part of success at C.S.D.. Your a out of town guy just like Dr. Hosch who got hired in a important position in our county with real no success, so of course you would support him. Ive talked to members of your band booster and Doug would make you get that program straight which would take away from all your free time, but thats what good administrators do. This Dr. Hosch would probably not even know where you teach in the building for the first two years let alone evaluate your value at the school. Step it up Richard, and don't just fly low under the radar!!!!! 

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ILUVNY wrote: The new principal will be introduced at 3p.m. on June 3rd or 4th. Does anyone know?

I heard a parents group will be thee to question the board on not hiring Doug Fleetwood. This could get ugly. I also heard the teachers are planning on not showing up for his greeting.

Many people fear that if they come out against this decision, the race card will be thrown. But its not about race, its about no one understanding this decision. This guy has low scores and is being fired where he is coming from. Our board picked him instead of a sure thing in Doug. I wish i could take off for this greeting, the Daily Banner better cover this........NEWSZAP!

I don't know where you get your information but I think you might want to check with someone closer to the situation.  First, if a parent group shows up to question the board on this matter, I hope they are removed by law officials.  That is neither the time nor the place.  To my knowledge there isn't a "planned" no-show by the teachers.  Again, if it occurs, it is the wrong time and my colleagues should know better.  It will only show the board of ed that they (the faculty) do not support them.  The fact remains that this man was on the committee's list.  He obviously impressed some people.  Give the man a shot before you choose not to support him.

I will be there.  I, unlike the majority of you, will support this man until I can make an opinion myself on his effectiveness.  The question I have for most of you is how much time do you (personally) spend in the building during the school day?  I spend everyday there...I know just a little bit more than you might want to give me credit for.

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The knowledge of Black English is very important to understanding the Black Students and parents.  Since CSD is almost 50% black, it is important to be able to communicate with all that attend.   Mr. Evans can do that quite well.

You are wasting your talent in Dorchester County.

New York, New Jersey and DC could use you.

I only just read this comment. If the kids cannot speak proper English by High School age, you all are worried about the WRONG school. We better go back and reassess Elementary and Middle Schools!!!!

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The new principal will be introduced at 3p.m. on June 3rd or 4th. Does anyone know?

I heard a parents group will be thee to question the board on not hiring Doug Fleetwood. This could get ugly. I also heard the teachers are planning on not showing up for his greeting.

Many people fear that if they come out against this decision, the race card will be thrown. But its not about race, its about no one understanding this decision. This guy has low scores and is being fired where he is coming from. Our board picked him instead of a sure thing in Doug. I wish i could take off for this greeting, the Daily Banner better cover this........NEWSZAP!

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cambridgehighalum wrote:  If he backs down and just comes here to get one final paycheck, then it'll be a zoo just like in previous years, no matter what type of support he gets. Once the school year begins, I'd say that it makes sense for people in the community to have a stance in reaction to the job he and the administration are doing people are allowed to have a voice in this country.


 

Since he is close to retirement age, and did not get to see Roosevelt make AYP, he likely will do his best to make sure CSDHS does.  Most people want their last hurrah to be just that.  They are often remembered most for what they do last.  That's why professional athletes/coaches who consider retiring usually try to do so after a successful season. 

If the community does not support him, the students will be the ones to lose out. 

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...if he does a good job, the kids will know it - they'll be faced with a strong, competent person every day and have to change or modify their behavior.

 If he backs down and just comes here to get one final paycheck, then it'll be a zoo just like in previous years, no matter what type of support he gets. Once the school year begins, I'd say that it makes sense for people in the community to have a stance in reaction to the job he and the administration are doing people are allowed to have a voice in this country.

 If he's solid, people will recognize it; if he ain't, it will be obvious, too. I'm not letting other people lay the groundwork for excuses to be used later on. You're judged on what you do, and you should be.

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 It won't be community support, or lack thereof, that determines his fate.
Without community support, he won't stand a chance!!

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...he'll have bigger issues to worry about, but from what I've read there are just as many people in support of the new principal as there are those who 'oppose' him - if that's what you want to call it.

 It won't be community support, or lack thereof, that determines his fate. It will be his performance at CSD from Monday thru Friday, 7 am to 5 pm.

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abbeys mommy wrote: chs71 -  yeh it would be   -but I think parents are so frustrated at this point - they may very well be willing to eat the cost of the gas to guarantee their child(ren) a better  education than what they are going to be getting.i hear so many good things about ndhs these days - i just pray they stay that way when my child is old enough to go there -  i'm just curious if hildebrand is going to answer all the questions he will no doubt be bombarded with or if he will try to dodge them any way he can.

I do not proclaim to know who #4 is.  I do know that if this person does not bring in a team, that person will be subjected to what I have been reading below, with little or no support.

So here we go, the BOE has decided to bring in new ideas and fresh air.  I hope they also provide this individual with the resources for success.

The problem is systemic -- to the roots.  One "GUY" can't do this.  It takes a team to root out the ugly negativity and the stamina to continue.  I hope #4 has been warned that it will be "cutting down a tree with a butter knife."

Good Luck #4 -- you are going to need it.  I would love to e-mail #4 this entire dialogue!

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chs71 -  yeh it would be   -but I think parents are so frustrated at this point - they may very well be willing to eat the cost of the gas to guarantee their child(ren) a better  education than what they are going to be getting.i hear so many good things about ndhs these days - i just pray they stay that way when my child is old enough to go there -  i'm just curious if hildebrand is going to answer all the questions he will no doubt be bombarded with or if he will try to dodge them any way he can.

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abbeys mommy wrote: what a sad day for the folks of csdhs!!! good luck to all the teachers  & students in the upcoming years - looks like you are on your own. i wonder how many transfers we are going to be seeing?

 

To where would they transfer?  Wouldn't it be quite a drive to either ND or Sts. Peter & Paul? 

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what a sad day for the folks of csdhs!!! good luck to all the teachers  & students in the upcoming years - looks like you are on your own. i wonder how many transfers we are going to be seeing?

 

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Lauralee wrote: DORCHESTER COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS DID IT AGAIN!!!  Not only do they turn their backs on stakeholders in this community, they ignore the Selection Committee's recommendation and hire the #4 pick from Roosevelt High School....... whose test scores were so underpar, they couldn't wait to get rid of him.  Those dedicated staff members and people on the Interview team invested alot of time and energy because they sincerely wanted the best person for C.S.D..  There were at least 3 local administrators that wanted to be Principal and instead, we get the "reject" from D.C..  Yes, the man can obviously handle discipline issues or crimes, as Roosevelt High has had many incidents, including a multitude of concealed weapons charges, fights, and even a drive-by shooting outside the school, but looking at the demographics of his previous school..........100% African Americans and Hispanics, and not one caucasion student....... one has to wonder how effective he will be in setting high standards with AP classes, H.S.A. testing & scores, the new STEM program being implemented in the fall, as well as college placements, etc.  Come on Board of Ed.??????   Whose idea was this?  The man is in his 60's, currently earns more than $103,000 of which he will receive a higher salary upon arriving in Dorchester County............ has maybe 2-3 years before he'll retire (probably leaving C.S.D. in shambles) , but hey....maybe then the Board of Ed. will wake up and hire Doug Fleetwood or Dave Bromwell, or maybe even move Vaughn Evans to C.S.D. and name Mr. Bromwell Principal at North Dorchester.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what C.S.D. needed.  It could be another Year of the African American Male Administration in Dorchester County - the last one Dorchester hired was a Talbot County reject and look how he ended up...........in Delaware with 30+ counts of a rape charge for violating a 17 year old student.  What the hell has to happen now to bring a little common sense to those in charge at the Board?  I think this community should express an outcry or even protest at the Board of Ed. - Who do they think they are?  It is a farce and a slap in the face to form an Interview/Selection committee and waste everyone's time and get the students, staff, and parents' hopes up just to have them crashing down with the announcement of the new Principal.  What can be done about this horrible decision???

WOW  .............

I have to admit that I am shocked that this is happening in Cambridge ........it is usually the North that gets the crap .....( the North was blessed with the one from Talbot that is now facing all those charges  in DE )


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chs71 wrote: local product wrote: the teachers are a big part of the problem along with the parents.  there is a lack of respect from both the parents and the students.  also, many of the teachers try to be the kids friend and buddy.  i know this for a fact because i am employed by the board.  also, the job should go to evans or bromwell, they have earned it.
So. . . since they did not go with either Evans or Bromwell, what do you think of the new pick?

I think they did the politically correct thing.  It just goes to show you what is valued here in cambridge.  Hard work, dedication, loyality, a CSD,North dorchester high school and local college degrees mean nothing to the board,  we ( the board ) are smarter than everyone else.  Lets just hope our kids don't have to pay arrorganist of these people who WE elected.

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Lauralee wrote: DORCHESTER COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS DID IT AGAIN!!!  Not only do they turn their backs on stakeholders in this community, they ignore the Selection Committee's recommendation and hire the #4 pick from Roosevelt High School....... whose test scores were so underpar, they couldn't wait to get rid of him.  Those dedicated staff members and people on the Interview team invested alot of time and energy because they sincerely wanted the best person for C.S.D..  There were at least 3 local administrators that wanted to be Principal and instead, we get the "reject" from D.C..  Yes, the man can obviously handle discipline issues or crimes, as Roosevelt High has had many incidents, including a multitude of concealed weapons charges, fights, and even a drive-by shooting outside the school, but looking at the demographics of his previous school..........100% African Americans and Hispanics, and not one caucasion student....... one has to wonder how effective he will be in setting high standards with AP classes, H.S.A. testing & scores, the new STEM program being implemented in the fall, as well as college placements, etc.  Come on Board of Ed.??????   Whose idea was this?  The man is in his 60's, currently earns more than $103,000 of which he will receive a higher salary upon arriving in Dorchester County............ has maybe 2-3 years before he'll retire (probably leaving C.S.D. in shambles) , but hey....maybe then the Board of Ed. will wake up and hire Doug Fleetwood or Dave Bromwell, or maybe even move Vaughn Evans to C.S.D. and name Mr. Bromwell Principal at North Dorchester.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what C.S.D. needed.  It could be another Year of the African American Male Administration in Dorchester County - the last one Dorchester hired was a Talbot County reject and look how he ended up...........in Delaware with 30+ counts of a rape charge for violating a 17 year old student.  What the hell has to happen now to bring a little common sense to those in charge at the Board?  I think this community should express an outcry or even protest at the Board of Ed. - Who do they think they are?  It is a farce and a slap in the face to form an Interview/Selection committee and waste everyone's time and get the students, staff, and parents' hopes up just to have them crashing down with the announcement of the new Principal.  What can be done about this horrible decision???
Lauralee, you really seem to know alot about the incoming principal.  It sounds as if you were on the Interview/Selection Committee(or a teacher at CSDHS).  I had asked in a previous post if there was such a committee.  Did the Board really totally disregard the wishes of the Interview Committee? 

I'm curious: what is the STEM program?  I'm assuming it has something to do with school improvement.  About the AP classes: some schools are now doing away with Honors classes and replacing them with AP.  For one thing, AP count toward college, & boost a student's GPA.  Increasing the number of students in AP classes will also help a school make the "LIST" that was mentioned earlier.  What do you think about eliminating Honors in an effort to beef up AP classes?  I wonder what the new principal's position would be on that issue?

And what percentage of students at CSDHS are African American?  Isn't that population increasing? Your comments about his being African-American seem very emotionally charged, and I'm thinking/hoping you really don't think all African-American administrators are potential deviants.  Maybe you should go meet him in person and see what you think.  After all, it might just be that he really has something going for him, being that he was chosen over the other candidates-- all of whom certainly seem to be well-liked and respected here in the County.

One thing I do agree with you on is that he is a bit close to retirement.  I wasn't aware of his age.  I guess I didn't think the Maryland State Retirement System would pick up where DC left off.  I mean, would he have to start over because he is in Maryland?  Maybe it's a privvie of being an administrator.  I have to wonder about that.  Hmmmmm....now I'm thinking.  I happen to know several teachers who work in DC, retire, then come to Maryland to work a few years longer so they can then collect retirement benefits from Maryland as well.  Just thinking out loud. 

However, at this point if everyone fights this the school will only get weaker and will end up being a less than positive place for the children to be.  Personally, if I were in charge of hiring, and thought that MAJOR changes needed to be made, then I might hire someone who might be around just for a few years, knowing they would not care about "pruning the tree" severely.  Now,on the other hand, if you hire Mr. Popularity, who wants to stick around and be everyone's best friend, and then you ask him to be the hatchet man, then he would not be very popular in a very short while, and meanwhile he wants to live here.  I'm not saying I agree with the decision the Board has made, but for whatever the reason, at this time the Board thinks the best "fit" for the job right now is Dr. Hosch.

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DORCHESTER COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS DID IT AGAIN!!!  Not only do they turn their backs on stakeholders in this community, they ignore the Selection Committee's recommendation and hire the #4 pick from Roosevelt High School....... whose test scores were so underpar, they couldn't wait to get rid of him.  Those dedicated staff members and people on the Interview team invested alot of time and energy because they sincerely wanted the best person for C.S.D..  There were at least 3 local administrators that wanted to be Principal and instead, we get the "reject" from D.C..  Yes, the man can obviously handle discipline issues or crimes, as Roosevelt High has had many incidents, including a multitude of concealed weapons charges, fights, and even a drive-by shooting outside the school, but looking at the demographics of his previous school..........100% African Americans and Hispanics, and not one caucasion student....... one has to wonder how effective he will be in setting high standards with AP classes, H.S.A. testing & scores, the new STEM program being implemented in the fall, as well as college placements, etc.  Come on Board of Ed.??????   Whose idea was this?  The man is in his 60's, currently earns more than $103,000 of which he will receive a higher salary upon arriving in Dorchester County............ has maybe 2-3 years before he'll retire (probably leaving C.S.D. in shambles) , but hey....maybe then the Board of Ed. will wake up and hire Doug Fleetwood or Dave Bromwell, or maybe even move Vaughn Evans to C.S.D. and name Mr. Bromwell Principal at North Dorchester.  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what C.S.D. needed.  It could be another Year of the African American Male Administration in Dorchester County - the last one Dorchester hired was a Talbot County reject and look how he ended up...........in Delaware with 30+ counts of a rape charge for violating a 17 year old student.  What the hell has to happen now to bring a little common sense to those in charge at the Board?  I think this community should express an outcry or even protest at the Board of Ed. - Who do they think they are?  It is a farce and a slap in the face to form an Interview/Selection committee and waste everyone's time and get the students, staff, and parents' hopes up just to have them crashing down with the announcement of the new Principal.  What can be done about this horrible decision??? 

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local product wrote: the teachers are a big part of the problem along with the parents.  there is a lack of respect from both the parents and the students.  also, many of the teachers try to be the kids friend and buddy.  i know this for a fact because i am employed by the board.  also, the job should go to evans or bromwell, they have earned it.
So. . . since they did not go with either Evans or Bromwell, what do you think of the new pick?

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the teachers are a big part of the problem along with the parents.  there is a lack of respect from both the parents and the students.  also, many of the teachers try to be the kids friend and buddy.  i know this for a fact because i am employed by the board.  also, the job should go to evans or bromwell, they have earned it.

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...someone making a psuedo-defense of Jim Reilly.

 Never thought I'd encounter that - guy was only bought out by at least two school systems for his incompetence and inability to lead. And that was before he got here, but hey for all we know it was the citizens of Dorchester County who caused Reilly to fail even before he got here...right?

 Anyway, previous work performance is not an indication of whether or not you can succeed in life - much less as the principal at CSD. Wouldn't want to select a candidate with a proven track record over a three decade time period.

 Keep it up, kid, you're going places!

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No rudeness intended.  It was just a question.  But you don't seem to like to answer questions.  You are the troll!

The knowledge of Black English is very important to understanding the Black Students and parents.  Since CSD is almost 50% black, it is important to be able to communicate with all that attend.   Mr. Evans can do that quite well.

You are wasting your talent in Dorchester County.

New York, New Jersey and DC could use you.

BYE

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Hasta la vesta......BABY!       hahahahahahaha

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County Volunteer wrote: Some of my best friends are Black, Hispanic, Latino, Pacific Islander and Native American.   How about you?  Do you like anyone?

 

 

Based on your rude reference to EBONICS -- I seriously doubt anyone of color would have anything to do w/ you, muchless take anything you say and think as valued information.

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Some of my best friends are Black, Hispanic, Latino, Pacific Islander and Native American.   How about you?  Do you like anyone?

 

 

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I think you should be the principal.  You are so smart and so knowledgeable about what the school and students need!!!!   The support from the teachers would probably be more than you could ever envision.  You would sweep everyone in the County off their feet, with your charm and expertise.

WWWHHHHEEEEEWWWW  you almost took my breath away.

 

Do you know EBONICS, too?   If you do, that would make you a very well rounded leader in addition to your other qualities.

 

 

 

SIKE!!!!

ps  It's a very scary thought that you are in the school system!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EBONICS?  Let me guess, you don't like black people either!

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I think you should be the principal.  You are so smart and so knowledgeable about what the school and students need!!!!   The support from the teachers would probably be more than you could ever envision.  You would sweep everyone in the County off their feet, with your charm and expertise.

WWWHHHHEEEEEWWWW  you almost took my breath away.

 

Do you know EBONICS, too?   If you do, that would make you a very well rounded leader in addition to your other qualities.

 

 

 

SIKE!!!!

ps  It's a very scary thought that you are in the school system!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dorchester's problems all started with the out-of-the-area administration.
No.  It started by the locals close mindedness towards an out-of-area admin.

When Jim Reilly came here from Kentucky he brought with him his flunkies,  His assistant superintendent and his attorney.  What a crock they were!!!!
Well -- as stated previously -- from Podunk, KY to Podunk [Cambridge], MD.

He didn't have any more idea about how to run a school system than I do flying a space ship.
I thought you were from Mars!  He was nothing but an administrator want-a-be.  You could not communicate with him because he didn't know what to say or do.  He would call a meeting and give you information and then before you left he had changed direction.After encountering you, he probably was changing direction back to Podunk, KY.

When things would really get tough he would send his assistant into the fire pot.
No comment!

I participated in many activities with him and he still doesn't know my name.
I guess that is an indication of the kind of impression you left w/ him.

He was also a great liar.  He would make outrageous statements and when questioned about them would deny saying them.

His solution to the schools was to have the schools run by the parents and teachers.
Did you want the students to run the place?

It didn't work.
No thanks to you.

Dorchester schools need to be run by people that understand the way of life, here and the wants and needs of the people.   The biggest problem with the school system is the lack of respect by the students and their parents.   And apparently the lack of respect by people by you!
No parents, no students -- I guess that leaves you and Fleetbottom as the only competents for this job.  You have eliminated everyone else!

 

 

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I am thinking that I will start referring to chs71, cambridgehighalum and county volunteer as the, "Tres Borrachos."

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 Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 06:43 pm
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WHAT????  Please explain I am one of the locals and I don't understand you yiddish!

I am local to and cannot comprehend your inability to understand plain english.

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 Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 05:30 pm
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WHAT????  Please explain I am one of the locals and I don't understand you yiddish!

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cambridgehighalum wrote: ...chs71 that was funny, guess it slipped past other people.

 BTW any news announced or any further details? Am out of the area today and ... hey wait a minute, does that mean I am eligible to apply for the job of CSD principal?

 Sorry, couldn't resist...

ROFL, that's funny.  BTW, I'm thinking somebody here has the hiccups. 

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cambridgehighalum wrote: ...chs71 that was funny, guess it slipped past other people.

 BTW any news announced or any further details? Am out of the area today and ... hey wait a minute, does that mean I am eligible to apply for the job of CSD principal?

 Sorry, couldn't resist...

How scary that must be for you to be out-of-town!  It is my understanding any qualified applicant is encouraged.  I have been asking you for your credentials anyway!

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cambridgehighalum wrote: ...chs71 that was funny, guess it slipped past other people.

 BTW any news announced or any further details? Am out of the area today and ... hey wait a minute, does that mean I am eligible to apply for the job of CSD principal?

 Sorry, couldn't resist...

How scary that must be for you to be out-of-town!  It is my understanding any qualified applicant is encouraged.  I have been asking you for your credentials anyway!

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 Posted: Sat May 17th, 2008 12:50 am
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...chs71 that was funny, guess it slipped past other people.

 BTW any news announced or any further details? Am out of the area today and ... hey wait a minute, does that mean I am eligible to apply for the job of CSD principal?

 Sorry, couldn't resist...

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Well so far you have failed miserably to earn any respect

 

Thank you.  I take that as a compliment -- based on the level of disrespect you seem to be engendering from the parents and students. 

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 Posted: Fri May 16th, 2008 11:46 pm
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Well so far you have failed miserably to earn any respect

 

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Dorchester's problems all started with the out-of-the-area administration.

When Jim Reilly came here from Kentucky he brought with him his flunkies,  His assistant superintendent and his attorney.  What a crock they were!!!!

He didn't have any more idea about how to run a school system than I do flying a space ship.  He was nothing but an administrator want-a-be.  You could not communicate with him because he didn't know what to say or do.  He would call a meeting and give you information and then before you left he had changed direction.

When things would really get tough he would send his assistant into the fire pot.

I participated in many activities with him and he still doesn't know my name.

He was also a great liar.  He would make outrageous statements and when questioned about them would deny saying them.

His solution to the schools was to have the schools run by the parents and teachers.

It didn't work.

Dorchester schools need to be run by people that understand the way of life, here and the wants and needs of the people.   The biggest problem with the school system is the lack of respect by the students and their parents.   And apparently the lack of respect by people by you!

 

 

Oh my, I couldn't help but notice the similarity in initials!  Must be a coincidence?

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Dorchester's problems all started with the out-of-the-area administration.

When Jim Reilly came here from Kentucky he brought with him his flunkies,  His assistant superintendent and his attorney.  What a crock they were!!!!

He didn't have any more idea about how to run a school system than I do flying a space ship.  He was nothing but an administrator want-a-be.  You could not communicate with him because he didn't know what to say or do.  He would call a meeting and give you information and then before you left he had changed direction.

When things would really get tough he would send his assistant into the fire pot.

I participated in many activities with him and he still doesn't know my name.

He was also a great liar.  He would make outrageous statements and when questioned about them would deny saying them.

His solution to the schools was to have the schools run by the parents and teachers.

It didn't work.

Dorchester schools need to be run by people that understand the way of life, here and the wants and needs of the people.   The biggest problem with the school system is the lack of respect by the students and their parents.   And apparently the lack of respect by people by you!

 

 


Let me understand.  A guy from Kentucky [who coincidentally was in a town and school system the size of Cambridge] came to town w/ his buddies and blew it.  This goes towards exactly what I am saying.  This was the wrong group by nature.  You moved a guy from Cambridge, KY to Cambrdige, MD.  A non-starter, bone-headed move.

As to the lack of respect -- respect is not given, but earned.

 

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Oh yes Jim Reilly was a piece of work. I worked for Dorchester County when he was Superintendent. All talk and no action. Let his cronies take the fall for everything. Good riddance.

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 Posted: Fri May 16th, 2008 10:03 pm
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Dorchester's problems all started with the out-of-the-area administration.

When Jim Reilly came here from Kentucky he brought with him his flunkies,  His assistant superintendent and his attorney.  What a crock they were!!!!

He didn't have any more idea about how to run a school system than I do flying a space ship.  He was nothing but an administrator want-a-be.  You could not communicate with him because he didn't know what to say or do.  He would call a meeting and give you information and then before you left he had changed direction.

When things would really get tough he would send his assistant into the fire pot.

I participated in many activities with him and he still doesn't know my name.

He was also a great liar.  He would make outrageous statements and when questioned about them would deny saying them.

His solution to the schools was to have the schools run by the parents and teachers.

It didn't work.

Dorchester schools need to be run by people that understand the way of life, here and the wants and needs of the people.   The biggest problem with the school system is the lack of respect by the students and their parents.   And apparently the lack of respect by people by you!

 

 

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nothing of particular significance.

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...you are projecting your beliefs onto other people here, and you don't even know it. It'll be nice when you go back to posting under your other profile.

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cambridgehighalum wrote: ...ridiculous comparison, in this semi-debate (you haven't said anything) the professional is Doug Fleetwood or Dave Bromwell. Maybe there are others, and maybe they are from outside the Eastern Shore. Who cares?

 But your stipulation is that Doug Fleetwood and Dave Bromwell shouldn't have even been considered for the position simply because they were from the area. Do you understand that when Fleetwood was at CSD he was an excellent principal, an astute and prepared athletic director who set the bar for his peers and also a state hall of fame coach in football and baseball.

 He commands respect from everyone he encounters.

 Oh yeah, Fleetwood was also a teacher during that time and raised a family that I think produced two college graduates. So how the hell can a comparison be made where he (or Dave Bromwell, who's also very, very qualified) is simply just some random person with zero knowledge of how to fix the problem?

 FYI - teachers at the school want him back (ask them - I have, and they do); parents want him back, especially those that were students when he was here at CSD; and certainly those involved with anything extracurricular want him back because he values things equally.

 Again, contribute something meaningful.


I know more about this than you want to conceed.  This is exactly the type of "blinders driven" mentality that drives good people away [your buddy Fleetwood, for one] and make others say "No way."  I would describe you as a protectionist -- driven by self-doubt and an inability to grow intellectually.

This is probably your reasoning behind, "It has to be one of US."  You just do not see that "one of US" is what has caused this mess and expanding the coffers of St. Peter and Paul in Easton.

I know you without meeting you.  You base you life on shutting out the rest of the world, as in, "Oooh, it must be bad because it is new!" 

Look, I know  you believe that Fleetwood would provide you with a personal, "hand-up", because of family ties or other relationships.  This guy has moved on to better things.  Why would he want to battle your form of logic on a daily basis -- unless he is desperate.

 

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chs71 wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: chs71 wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: cambridgehighalum wrote: ...exactly chs71...pretty spot on with the whole thing about someone from the area having more incentive do do a great job. In my experience with the educational system, people from a particular area seem more willing to go the extra mile, while outsiders tend to be the "7:30 to 2:35" types who don't really want to work with the kids unless they are contractually obligated to.

 Not all of them, just a general point observation.

 As to the whole assertion (by JRT) that it must be someone from outside the area, chs71 again hit the nail on the head: plenty of people from this area are succesful in many avenues of life.

 The point is we hope the BOE picks a principal who can help produce MORE people like that. There's just one poster here on this thread who doesn't seem to get it, or maybe doesn't want the same thing for whatever reason.

Whom is talking about people from Cambridge doing well beyond tthe Choptank?  That is a given.  This I find to be completely dislectsic on your part.  What I am saying is that we are living on an island and need supplies from the mainland.  That is since others are beginning to use the word "Native" and all.

I'm a "native" and proud of it.  Bred, born and raised here.  My family has been here for generations.  Places in lower Dorchester bear their names. . . Toddville, Andrews, & Bloodsworth Island.  So, yeah, I'm a native.  No problem with it.

Okay, now we are getting somewhere.  Imagine, if you are on Bloodsworth's Island and your BMW is on the fritz.  You bring someone there who knows what they are doing, or you have your next door neighbor take a ball pin hammer to it.  Now, before you leap, please be advised the BMW is CSD.

“The justification of an inference based on analogical reasoning depends on the number and strength of known similarities and dissimilarities of the items being compared. If there are very few known similarities or if there are a few known very great dissimilarities, then drawing inferences based on the comparison is unjustified. The result is a false analogy.”
Bloodsworth Island = Dorchester County?
BMW = CSD????
Next door neighbor = Doug Fleetwood?
False.  In this case the “next door neighbor” is not some uneducated doofus, who would “swing a ball pin hammer” on his next door neighbor’s Beamer.  In this case, the next door neighbor holds the lien (prior interest) on the Beamer, and wouldn’t do anything to damage his investment(time, reputation, etc.). 
Having said that, I'm going to go watch the news.

You may also want to consult your mental health physician.

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chs71 wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: chs71 wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: cambridgehighalum wrote: ...exactly chs71...pretty spot on with the whole thing about someone from the area having more incentive do do a great job. In my experience with the educational system, people from a particular area seem more willing to go the extra mile, while outsiders tend to be the "7:30 to 2:35" types who don't really want to work with the kids unless they are contractually obligated to.

 Not all of them, just a general point observation.

 As to the whole assertion (by JRT) that it must be someone from outside the area, chs71 again hit the nail on the head: plenty of people from this area are succesful in many avenues of life.

 The point is we hope the BOE picks a principal who can help produce MORE people like that. There's just one poster here on this thread who doesn't seem to get it, or maybe doesn't want the same thing for whatever reason.

Whom is talking about people from Cambridge doing well beyond tthe Choptank?  That is a given.  This I find to be completely dislectsic on your part.  What I am saying is that we are living on an island and need supplies from the mainland.  That is since others are beginning to use the word "Native" and all.

I'm a "native" and proud of it.  Bred, born and raised here.  My family has been here for generations.  Places in lower Dorchester bear their names. . . Toddville, Andrews, & Bloodsworth Island.  So, yeah, I'm a native.  No problem with it.

Okay, now we are getting somewhere.  Imagine, if you are on Bloodsworth's Island and your BMW is on the fritz.  You bring someone there who knows what they are doing, or you have your next door neighbor take a ball pin hammer to it.  Now, before you leap, please be advised the BMW is CSD.

“The justification of an inference based on analogical reasoning depends on the number and strength of known similarities and dissimilarities of the items being compared. If there are very few known similarities or if there are a few known very great dissimilarities, then drawing inferences based on the comparison is unjustified. The result is a false analogy.”
Bloodsworth Island = Dorchester County?
BMW = CSD????
Next door neighbor = Doug Fleetwood?
False.  In this case the “next door neighbor” is not some uneducated doofus, who would “swing a ball pin hammer” on his next door neighbor’s Beamer.  In this case, the next door neighbor holds the lien (prior interest) on the Beamer, and wouldn’t do anything to damage his investment(time, reputation, etc.). 
Having said that, I'm going to go watch the news.

You may also want to consult your mental health physician.

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chs71 wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: chs71 wrote: