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csd teacher wrote: meinmd wrote: csd teacher wrote: This event didn't not get ugly.
What does this mean? A high school teacher should have a basic knowledge of grammar.
Sorry - I was unaware that being a teacher prohibited me from making mistakes.
A teacher make a mistake? Say it ain't so! The only mistake IMO is the salary of a teacher! They deserve so much more. Thanks CSD teacher for all you have done and continue to do for the kids........
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csd teacher wrote: meinmd wrote: csd teacher wrote: This event didn't not get ugly.
What does this mean? A high school teacher should have a basic knowledge of grammar.
Sorry - I was unaware that being a teacher prohibited me from making mistakes.
Good grief, Charlie Brown! Give CSD a break. It looks like an editing goof, that's all! I do it all the time. I decide to change a sentence, rewrite a part, the phone rings, I talk, come back, forget what I was doing, click send....and there you have it--a didn't not sentence. Hmmmm....how do you like my run on, btw?
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 02:20 am |
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csd teacher wrote: meinmd wrote: csd teacher wrote: This event didn't not get ugly.
What does this mean? A high school teacher should have a basic knowledge of grammar.
Sorry - I was unaware that being a teacher prohibited me from making mistakes.
Hey -- let's ask Bromwell! He might know.
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meinmd wrote: csd teacher wrote: This event didn't not get ugly.
What does this mean? A high school teacher should have a basic knowledge of grammar.
Sorry - I was unaware that being a teacher prohibited me from making mistakes.
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csd teacher wrote: This event didn't not get ugly.
What does this mean? A high school teacher should have a basic knowledge of grammar.
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csd teacher wrote: ILUVNY wrote: The new principal will be introduced at 3p.m. on June 3rd or 4th. Does anyone know?
I heard a parents group will be thee to question the board on not hiring Doug Fleetwood. This could get ugly. I also heard the teachers are planning on not showing up for his greeting.
Many people fear that if they come out against this decision, the race card will be thrown. But its not about race, its about no one understanding this decision. This guy has low scores and is being fired where he is coming from. Our board picked him instead of a sure thing in Doug. I wish i could take off for this greeting, the Daily Banner better cover this........NEWSZAP!
This event didn't not get ugly. Dr. Hosch seemed like a nice enough guy. There was a lot of people there including about half of the staff. The Banner was there as was our friend Pete!
Did anyone else meet him and talk to him? What were your thoughts? ILUVNY, I'm really interested to know what you thought of him.
Just as I expected. Just because a DC school did not make AYP, it doesn't necessarily mean the principal is no good. Also, after dealing with some of those very vocal DC parents, he should get along with the parents here just fine. I wish I could have met him, unfortunately I had to work. This is exam week for us. I can't wait to see the write up in the Banner. So, if Bromwell is in, then which other AP will be leaving? Any word on that?
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ILUVNY wrote: The new principal will be introduced at 3p.m. on June 3rd or 4th. Does anyone know?
I heard a parents group will be thee to question the board on not hiring Doug Fleetwood. This could get ugly. I also heard the teachers are planning on not showing up for his greeting.
Many people fear that if they come out against this decision, the race card will be thrown. But its not about race, its about no one understanding this decision. This guy has low scores and is being fired where he is coming from. Our board picked him instead of a sure thing in Doug. I wish i could take off for this greeting, the Daily Banner better cover this........NEWSZAP!
This event did not get ugly. Dr. Hosch seemed like a nice enough guy. There was a lot of people there including about half of the staff. The Banner was there as was our friend Pete!
Did anyone else meet him and talk to him? What were your thoughts? ILUVNY, I'm really interested to know what you thought of him.
Edit: Corrected my grammatical mistakes because teachers must always be perfect...
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There is a difference in being a proud parent , supporting your children , being there for your child ...............verses acting like an idiot at graduation and having NO respect for the other people there .
I recently attending a graduation and was shocked at how rude some parents really are . They were hollering and acting like fools before their son or daughter's name was ever called . ( as soon as they walked up to the flag to await their turn )
That is TOTAL dis respect for the others in the audience . Not to mention the dis respect for the graduate that was still walking across the stage to receive his / her diploma .
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| OK Local product, I will not shut up. My daughter made the right decisions all through school and has developed into a very lovely lady. Success can be achieved in other ways, but I think that if you are able to succeed in school, a job and be a good family member, that is a successful person. Again I will state that if your parents do not support you, you will succeed at their fullest. My daughter will always live right and become a very important person thanks to her persistance, and brains.
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| I watched the CSD graduation on Bay Country Cable. In my opinion, it was a great show of disrepect for the administration from the family members that paid no attention to their request of no applause until the end. Some of it was not even applause, it was screaming and yelling. No wonder some children today have no respect for authority in any way, shape, or form. You can be proud of your child and show it in many other ways.
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| For me, the graduation was not much different than the last one I attended 5 years ago and, to a point, my own 35 years ago. It was an emotional end to a 12 year roller coaster ride filled with ups, downs, some successes and some failures. Not to mention, in the case of this year's, a great loss of a good friend. Different people handle such emotions in different ways. Some don't know any better. Some do but don't care. If you think graduation was unruly, you should have been at the prom grand march.
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Social butterfly wrote: Graduation will always have parents praising their kids during the ceremony. The parents who were cheering for their kids, I noticed did not have honor society sashes on, in the top 5 percent or were a Maryland Scholar. Many of these parents made comments, like "THank God, they made it." I have been actively involved with my child since she started Pre-K. Then in High School, the sports games, Christmas Dance, Prom, Senior Class Play, Fundraising and finally Graduation. I only have seen these parents mayb picking their child up from school or visiting the office for referrals. I think that if parents are active and involved the child will succeed and graduate with honors. My daughter brought home the class picture and I could pick out the kids who cared about school and theirselves. Then I was able to pick out the kids who really will have a struggle in real life. So I think that their parents should realize they are on the wrong road and steer them to a great future. I believe that you don't have to have a lot of money, just have pride in yourself and try to achieve all you can achieve. good for you, now shut up. The things you have done may help or not your kid in life but success is achieved in many ways. also, many of the kids who have been"supported" by parents like you have a rude awaking in the real world. I've dealt with many of the pampered kids at CSD (its no fun)
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sayso wrote: I know that some of the audience members were to loud and some students as well, however the control of the graduation should be maintained by the Administrators, Some parents were probably overwhelmed because of the struggle they have had with their child to stay in school or with the school system all together. So relief comes out in different ways for all of us.
I don't think the administrators should have to control the behavior of parents on such an important occasion. The fact that the parents were present and students still misbehaved speaks volumes.
The school where I currently teach had its graduation ceremony at Comcast Center on Thursday. I thought such an idea was ridiculous until I actually experienced it. The graduating class of 450 was seated on the court facing the stage. The parents & relatives were in the bleachers. The place was so huge that the screaming of the relatives was, for the most part, unnoticed. The formality/integrity of the occasion was left intact. I always thought there could not be a better place for graduation than at the school where students had spent the four years of high school. Now I'm thinking there might have to be another way, due to the changing times. I still think the price the county pays for renting Comcast Center or the Showplace Arena for its 30 high schools is an absolutely outlandish waste of the county school budget.
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| Graduation will always have parents praising their kids during the ceremony. The parents who were cheering for their kids, I noticed did not have honor society sashes on, in the top 5 percent or were a Maryland Scholar. Many of these parents made comments, like "THank God, they made it." I have been actively involved with my child since she started Pre-K. Then in High School, the sports games, Christmas Dance, Prom, Senior Class Play, Fundraising and finally Graduation. I only have seen these parents mayb picking their child up from school or visiting the office for referrals. I think that if parents are active and involved the child will succeed and graduate with honors. My daughter brought home the class picture and I could pick out the kids who cared about school and theirselves. Then I was able to pick out the kids who really will have a struggle in real life. So I think that their parents should realize they are on the wrong road and steer them to a great future. I believe that you don't have to have a lot of money, just have pride in yourself and try to achieve all you can achieve.
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So relief comes out in different ways for all of us.
Maybe that was your impression: all I got was, "You can't tell us what to do!"
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I know that some of the audience members were to loud and some students as well, however the control of the graduation should be maintained by the Administrators, Some parents were probably overwhelmed because of the struggle they have had with their child to stay in school or with the school system all together. So relief comes out in different ways for all of us.
As for the new principal--- give him a chance before you condemn the man. Please becareful what you say about people, think if I was in his position.....
To speak of race as a card being thrown is crazy, maybe the board thouht a change would be good for the school. Its not like we had a lot to choose from.
Let's give it a chance before we kill the hope to have an expectation to embrace change.
I am a concerned parent as well, let us wait and see and pray.
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| I agree, the entire group sent a very special message to the family.
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I was holding my breath during the moment of silence for Andy Perez: fortunately, you could have heard a pin drop, so it was truly a heartfelt show of respect. For that, I was extremely grateful.
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As a teacher, I was embarrassed but not surprised. Parents need to realize that they set the tone for their children, if the parents saw fit to behave in that manner, why would their kids behave any differently.
A special note to all....please thank the people at the school who put many long hours into graduation, usually teachers and staff who do this on their time, who want to make a memorable experience for all.
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MacMom wrote: I thought the students were pretty well behaved. I was disappointed in the behavior of the audience, but I guess there are always going to be those parents who don't think the rules apply to them, or that they don't have to listen to anyone else, because it's all about their kid, and no one else matters.
For those of you who were respectful of the ceremony: thank you.
For those of you who talked loudly, stood up and cheered, whistled, screamed some nonsense, and generally made a fool of themselves: going forward, when your kid doesn't behave in a classy manner or feels that the rules don't apply to them, be proud of the fact that they learned it from you.
It's ALWAYS been like that. People are totally self centered. The school just needs to keep it moving and keep speaking and let the audience know who's boss- like at Chesapeake- people hollered and clapped, but it kept on moving. WHY don't people in authority want to ACT like it????
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MacMom wrote: I thought the students were pretty well behaved. I was disappointed in the behavior of the audience, but I guess there are always going to be those parents who don't think the rules apply to them, or that they don't have to listen to anyone else, because it's all about their kid, and no one else matters.
For those of you who were respectful of the ceremony: thank you.
For those of you who talked loudly, stood up and cheered, whistled, screamed some nonsense, and generally made a fool of themselves: going forward, when your kid doesn't behave in a classy manner or feels that the rules don't apply to them, be proud of the fact that they learned it from you.
Our school's graduation is today at Comcast Center. I am anxious to see if it is any different. Hey, it's how we spend our money in this county. :-(
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I thought the students were pretty well behaved. I was disappointed in the behavior of the audience, but I guess there are always going to be those parents who don't think the rules apply to them, or that they don't have to listen to anyone else, because it's all about their kid, and no one else matters.
For those of you who were respectful of the ceremony: thank you.
For those of you who talked loudly, stood up and cheered, whistled, screamed some nonsense, and generally made a fool of themselves: going forward, when your kid doesn't behave in a classy manner or feels that the rules don't apply to them, be proud of the fact that they learned it from you.
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ILUVNY wrote: What a terrible display of a high school graduation! There was no respect or control tonight at Graduation.
Dr. Hildenbrand had to be wondering about his decision on Dr. Hosch. Mr. Hurley did his best and he deserves retirement. I don't blame him, even the kids joked about having three principals in four years.
I saw Vaughn Evans laughing at one point because of all the disrespect shown by the kids and parents.
On a side note, Addie Eckart was possibly the worst speaker i have ever heard.
Did anyone see this display?
I have to take issue with these comments. The teachers and staff laid out the ground rules before the event started. They asked the audience to be courteous during the graduation number one to those graduating but also because it was on the radio. The "kids" in my opinion did what was asked of them. Addie's speech was good in its points. Her problem was her having to keep dipping in her bag of prop's to make her points. I have heard better but her points were made. The whoop's and hollar's from the audience was the disrespect part and disobeying of the "rules". The kids really displayed a typical graduating behavior. It was my 4th time of witness over the last 10 years and this one was no different than 10 years ago. I thought it was good and my surprise came from expecting less after reading so much of the negativity on here.
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ILUVNY wrote: What a terrible display of a high school graduation! There was no respect or control tonight at Graduation.
Dr. Hildenbrand had to be wondering about his decision on Dr. Hosch. Mr. Hurley did his best and he deserves retirement. I don't blame him, even the kids joked about having three principals in four years.
I saw Vaughn Evans laughing at one point because of all the disrespect shown by the kids and parents.
On a side note, Addie Eckart was possibly the worst speaker i have ever heard.
Did anyone see this display?
ILUVNY - The items I highlighted have been happening at graduation since I graduated 31 years ago. They probably have been happening before then and probably will continue to happen.
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Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: ILUVNY wrote: What a terrible display of a high school graduation! There was no respect or control tonight at Graduation.
Dr. Hildenbrand had to be wondering about his decision on Dr. Hosch. Mr. Hurley did his best and he deserves retirement. I don't blame him, even the kids joked about having three principals in four years.
I saw Vaughn Evans laughing at one point because of all the disrespect shown by the kids and parents.
On a side note, Addie Eckart was possibly the worst speaker i have ever heard.
Did anyone see this display?
I was not there, but -- I see a couple problems displayed in your post. What were the teachers doing? I ask this because these posts are supposed to be about " Dor. BOE needs to listen to its' teachers." Therefore, I suspect that YOU are one of the teachers that needs to be listened to! If this is the case, I have heard enough. You have nothing worthwhile to contribute. No wonder -- 3 principals in 4 years. You blame the parents and students? Their behavior is a direct reflection on what the teachers are teaching. It is a systemic problem of negativism -- promulgated by those in charge. One principal cannot make a difference, especially from those stakeholders pre-supposed towards Fleetbottom, who perceive that their positions will be safe while their "old buddy" looks the other way.
One principal CAN make a difference. The policies enacted and whether or not they are actually enforced can have a huge impact on a school. Teachers can do eveything in their power, for instance, send a student to administration due to an infraction, but if the administration does not act on it (suspend/expell, etc.), then it sends a huge message to other students. The situation worsens. I'm sure any teacher on the forum can attest to that. Teachers stick around. They see principals come and go. They also see the differences within the building as administration changes. Also, schools cannot make AYP if suspension rates are too high. Principals tell their Assistant Principals to lay off on suspensions. When that happens, the students know about it. They can see what happens(or doesn't happen) to disruptive students, etc.
I am willing to bet that just about all of the teachers at CSD want to see Dr. Hosch succeed. No one wants to work in an atmosphere of chaos. They want to see things improve. I worked in a building once where approximately 100 students just roamed the halls during classes. The principal hid in his office and seldom came out. The teachers were in their classrooms teaching. Teachers had to lock their doors so the students in the hall would not come in and disturb their classes. A different principal came the following year, and it did not look like the same school at all. One principal can make a difference.
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ILUVNY wrote: What a terrible display of a high school graduation! There was no respect or control tonight at Graduation.
Dr. Hildenbrand had to be wondering about his decision on Dr. Hosch. Mr. Hurley did his best and he deserves retirement. I don't blame him, even the kids joked about having three principals in four years.
I saw Vaughn Evans laughing at one point because of all the disrespect shown by the kids and parents.
On a side note, Addie Eckart was possibly the worst speaker i have ever heard.
Did anyone see this display?
A new principal cannot be expected to come in at the end of the year and turn things around. Wait and see what happens at the start of the new school year. What you saw is how the students perceive things as they are/have been during this past year.
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CRIMECRUNCHER wrote: Its not just the parents of current students who have a right to an opinion. those of us who pay the taxes that support the system also have a right to speak up.
news flash!!! everyone who go's shopping pays for food,cloth,gas and etc.....
pays taxes too.
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ILUVNY wrote: What a terrible display of a high school graduation! There was no respect or control tonight at Graduation.
Dr. Hildenbrand had to be wondering about his decision on Dr. Hosch. Mr. Hurley did his best and he deserves retirement. I don't blame him, even the kids joked about having three principals in four years.
I saw Vaughn Evans laughing at one point because of all the disrespect shown by the kids and parents.
On a side note, Addie Eckart was possibly the worst speaker i have ever heard.
Did anyone see this display?
I was not there, but -- I see a couple problems displayed in your post. What were the teachers doing? I ask this because these posts are supposed to be about " Dor. BOE needs to listen to its' teachers." Therefore, I suspect that YOU are one of the teachers that needs to be listened to! If this is the case, I have heard enough. You have nothing worthwhile to contribute. No wonder -- 3 principals in 4 years. You blame the parents and students? Their behavior is a direct reflection on what the teachers are teaching. It is a systemic problem of negativism -- promulgated by those in charge. One principal cannot make a difference, especially from those stakeholders pre-supposed towards Fleetbottom, who perceive that their positions will be safe while their "old buddy" looks the other way.
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What a terrible display of a high school graduation! There was no respect or control tonight at Graduation.
Dr. Hildenbrand had to be wondering about his decision on Dr. Hosch. Mr. Hurley did his best and he deserves retirement. I don't blame him, even the kids joked about having three principals in four years.
I saw Vaughn Evans laughing at one point because of all the disrespect shown by the kids and parents.
On a side note, Addie Eckart was possibly the worst speaker i have ever heard.
Did anyone see this display?
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Farmer wrote: Graduation is tomorrow night. Whether you attend it or read about it in the paper, take note of scholastic and service awards. Then think, why didn't MY kid get some of those? Perhaps some serious reflection will allow you to come up with some "real" answers, instead of always blaming the teachers, principals and school board. If you don't know all the answers, shame on you. You were asleep at the wheel. If you DO know the answers, shame on you also. You had 12 years to help your child succeed. If they thought you didn't really care, why should they? I will tell you 1st hand, I wish I had been more active in my kids' activities. I know they're going to be successful. But can't help wondering...what if??
BINGO!!!!!!
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| Its not just the parents of current students who have a right to an opinion. those of us who pay the taxes that support the system also have a right to speak up. For that matter so do the businesses that thodays kids will be hitting up for a job in the near future. When McDonalds can't find HS grads who can properly count change on a purchase, or CPD can't find a grad who can read and write the Kings English cogently enough to be understood we are all in the toilet.
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I definately agree with you Farmer. Another thing we all need to remember is that every child is different no matter how much their parents are involved with their education, kids have to want to succeed too.
When my siblings and I were in school together (we have the same parents and were raised the same) yet we all had different priorities, excelled in different things and have accomplished different things.
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| Graduation is tomorrow night. Whether you attend it or read about it in the paper, take note of scholastic and service awards. Then think, why didn't MY kid get some of those? Perhaps some serious reflection will allow you to come up with some "real" answers, instead of always blaming the teachers, principals and school board. If you don't know all the answers, shame on you. You were asleep at the wheel. If you DO know the answers, shame on you also. You had 12 years to help your child succeed. If they thought you didn't really care, why should they? I will tell you 1st hand, I wish I had been more active in my kids' activities. I know they're going to be successful. But can't help wondering...what if??
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Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: thinkfirst wrote: Sure it says it all to a totally self centered brat... oh, lets use politics and psycho babble to explain why we are what we are. Just BS. Go talk to Dr. Phil. It's school. Teachers RULE. You cannot intellectualize EVERY issue. These are kids. The school should not be the one to carry all the social ills. The kids are there to learn. Leave politics, race and bigotry to social reformers and let the schools go back to TEACHING.
Yeah -- but I suspect any child of yours spews the same bigot ideas you represent. So again, you are the problem. Please change your name of "thinkfirst". It is an oxymoron.
JRT how in the world is thinkfirst the problem???? And how are their ideas bigoted??? What they said was the total opposite....and you say 'thinkfirst' is an oxymoron...huh
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| ...great point abbey, let's see how JRT tries to spin that. Evans has been there a while and is a huge success, people follow him the same way they did with Doug Fleetwood. Only thing is, Fleetwood had MORE responsibility and a bigger, in some ways more chaotic school to deal with it. Both guys do great jobs, one black and one white, and both were from Dorchester County. Kinda ironic.
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Posted: Tue May 27th, 2008 03:43 pm |
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| thinkfirst - you are so right - these kids today are so stressed out because of all the outside bs brought into the school about things they don't even need to be hearing or learning about . ANYONE who has a child in this school system has a right to voice their opinion who is going to lead in their childs education within the school system.jrt - you are trying to turn this into something it is not. from ALL the people i have spoken to & from what i am reading on this forum - the MAJORITY of the people wanted Fleetwood & with good reason - we already know his track record .we trust in his ethics & WE feel that fleetwood is the best man for the job.if he were a black man - he would still be fleetwood & HE WOULD STILL BE THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB! I don't know him,but isn't Vaughn Evans a black man? apparently that does'nt bother anybody - because everyone I have talked to LOVES HIM!!! they say he is the best thng that's ever happened to NDHS!!! & if they ever try o take him away from there ,I believe there would be such a riot from the parents the bds heads would spin.so COLOR has nothing to do with it & the proof is in the pudding !!!
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Posted: Tue May 27th, 2008 01:24 am |
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...funny how in this thread some people have transitioned their opinions from calling for an outside influence, to now blaming Dorchester County residents for "this mess". Look, your opinion that it HAD to be someone from outside the county/area was off-base and NOT what the voters and taxpayers wanted. Those are the people whose opinion should've been listened to; whether it was or not, I don't know.
This sounds like a setup to making excuses if the new principal does not succeed, and that's just a copout.
It's not that people DIDN'T want Dr. Hosch (for whatever reason), it's that they wanted Doug Fleetwood as he was (from most reports) the top choice across the board. I do not KNOW this but it appears that was the case from many concerned parents I know and talk to. So I don't think parents cared whether or not the person who got the job was purple, red, black, white or transparent. I think some people can't get past the dissapointment because they know what kind of job Fleetwood does in everything.
That's already been decided, and while it's a shame, people just need to move on. All people. Support the guy and give him a chance. Ignore the people who are trying to bait you into saying something outlandish - they're just a waste of time posting for negative reasons. Heck, start a campaign of people who'll support Dr. Hosch or do something positive. This thread should go away, and begin another one with "Support CSD by supporting the new principal. Dr. Benjamin Hosch".
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 05:03 pm |
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thinkfirst wrote: Sure it says it all to a totally self centered brat... oh, lets use politics and psycho babble to explain why we are what we are. Just BS. Go talk to Dr. Phil. It's school. Teachers RULE. You cannot intellectualize EVERY issue. These are kids. The school should not be the one to carry all the social ills. The kids are there to learn. Leave politics, race and bigotry to social reformers and let the schools go back to TEACHING.
Yeah -- but I suspect any child of yours spews the same bigot ideas you represent. So again, you are the problem. Please change your name of "thinkfirst". It is an oxymoron.
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 04:22 pm |
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| Sure it says it all to a totally self centered brat... oh, lets use politics and psycho babble to explain why we are what we are. Just BS. Go talk to Dr. Phil. It's school. Teachers RULE. You cannot intellectualize EVERY issue. These are kids. The school should not be the one to carry all the social ills. The kids are there to learn. Leave politics, race and bigotry to social reformers and let the schools go back to TEACHING.
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 04:10 pm |
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thinkfirst wrote: I just do NOT understand. It's been 40-45 years since the Race riots, desegregation, etc. Have we not learned anything? Grown at all? We can fight a war together, die together, but we can't go to school together??? Work together? WHITE OR BLACK, there's a difference between middle class, wealthy, inner city and country folk. If you have BLACK or WHITE disruptive spoiled brats in class MAYBE you should get the 1st and 2nd grade teachers show you how to deal with them. Stop treating the disruptive kids like criminals, idiots, and losers, treat them like children that need structure. Stop giving in to stereotypes. Stop making race an issue all the time. School is not the place to solve the world's problems. Geez it makes me ashamed to think we've gotten NOWHERE in 40 years. If you have a disruptive brat in the classroom, forget the National Guard... send him back to first grade for awhile.
"I just do NOT understand." I think that sez it all.
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 03:15 pm |
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| I just do NOT understand. It's been 40-45 years since the Race riots, desegregation, etc. Have we not learned anything? Grown at all? We can fight a war together, die together, but we can't go to school together??? Work together? WHITE OR BLACK, there's a difference between middle class, wealthy, inner city and country folk. If you have BLACK or WHITE disruptive spoiled brats in class MAYBE you should get the 1st and 2nd grade teachers show you how to deal with them. Stop treating the disruptive kids like criminals, idiots, and losers, treat them like children that need structure. Stop giving in to stereotypes. Stop making race an issue all the time. School is not the place to solve the world's problems. Geez it makes me ashamed to think we've gotten NOWHERE in 40 years. If you have a disruptive brat in the classroom, forget the National Guard... send him back to first grade for awhile.
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 02:52 pm |
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There is one thing that goes with "only settling for the best" -- because, that is all you will receive. From my view, this whole thing has gone miserably wrong from the get go. All the screaming and yelling for "Fleetbottom" [which is a step back into the past] has caused most qualified candidates not to apply. The reputation of Cambridge racism is well documented -- especially in this posted category. If you continue as isolationists, the best qualified candiddates will NOT dare apply without the help of the National Guard as protection. In my mind, we are getting what we deserve and NOT what we desire or what is needed.
It is a systemic problem that needs to reverse the "Fred Flintstone" thinking that has got us to this point. Fleetbottom is Fred Flintstone and his hiring would add nothing to progress.
You all only have yourselves to blame for this mess. Especially those that have tried to leverage their positions and relationships with Fleetbottom to feather their own nests. New is not evil, it is progress.
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 02:44 am |
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...this forum will digress every time JRT attempts to poke fun at Eastern Shore residents for being backwards or whatever.
Point is, the new principal meets his staff (or what will be most of his staff) this week, I believe. Hopefully he'll come in and work hard, leading that group in the right direction. Let's be supportive or just be silent, and that's coming from someone who knows that the most qualified person wasn't selected. At this point, that does not matter.
Move on, help out or be quiet.
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 01:58 am |
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The racist need to shut up because they won't help the situation. They only make the rest of us look bad.
Someone please explain why this fella white or black is more qualified then Doug Fleetwood.
Did the board hire him because he was black so people like Jimmy Ray Buffet could hide behide the race card for their justification for his hire?
In the world we live in now, it seems you can't question the hire of a black or your racist, thats the reverse racism thats bulls%#&.
This fella was the wrong choice in my opinion but i hope the teachers do back him and he does well so i can be proved wrong. But don't hide behind the race card people, if they brought Vaughn Evans over we all would have done a back flip in joy and so would the teachers.
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| It is sad to see that this started as a forum to voice concerns over the current problems at CSD and problems that may be on the horizon - a forum where all individuals are concerned with the welfare of our county's kids and the educaiton they receive - and has ended up as a place where people are concerned with nothing more than bashing each other, the educators are CSD who are trying to make a difference amongst a situation that is not conducive to learning, making accusations, and throwing insults. We all want to see a positive change in the school, but is this really the best way to go about getting it?? Last edited on Mon May 26th, 2008 12:01 am by latbug
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Posted: Sun May 25th, 2008 11:44 pm |
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CRIMECRUNCHER wrote: Q.E.D. Your Ph.D in ebonics shows in your spelling and bigotry. Swastika is the way that hakenkreuz is supposed to be spelled in English. Additionally, roman Catholics like me are not welcome in the brotherhood of the sheet.
Thank you for proving my point. Do you also wear one of those half-moustashe's? Remember to clean those dirty sheets the next time you wear them.
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Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: CRIMECRUNCHER wrote: Ebonics? What in the world does ebonics have to do with a quality education, or more importantly with getting a god job after graduation? The last time i heard, English is the language used in most work environments in America today, and far too many HS grads are severly defficient in english.
I guess that you also have a swachstiker in your living room and run around burning crosses in your white sheets over the weekend too!
Jimmy Ray Trump - You're proof that evolution can go backwards!
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Posted: Sun May 25th, 2008 09:21 pm |
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| Q.E.D. Your Ph.D in ebonics shows in your spelling and bigotry. Swastika is the way that hakenkreuz is supposed to be spelled in English. Additionally, roman Catholics like me are not welcome in the brotherhood of the sheet.
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