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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 01:41 am |
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TF wrote....
I think we go to church to hear the Word, for fellowship, and to learn something. We all fail at being better than we are, right? . Yes, you are right. We all.
Anyhow, someone should have explained to you why you could not be a member.
If you came short of the requirements, they should have explained to you what you could do - and help you where they could.
Sorry to hear about that trouble you had TF.
Will be praying for you.
God bless,
Pete
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thinkfirst
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 01:36 am |
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| Well, I guess because when I asked I was blown off. A couple of years went by I asked again and got blown off. Finally, all requesting membership were given a paper with "the Rules". Nothing else was said, by either the church or myself. I figured since I wasn't married (lol not by choice) to my companion, that there was no hope. Then one day, after almost 4 years, suddenly we had new members introduced. I actually cried right there in the pew. Noone EVER said a word. Maybe I failed at communicating my desire. That day I took Woody Allen's famous quote to heart: I'd never join a club that would allow a person like me to become a member. And I still go every Sunday. When I'm welcomed, I welcome the welcomer right back! In the scheme of things it doesn't matter. I think we go to church to hear the Word, for fellowship, and to learn something. We all fail at being better than we are, right? .
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 01:07 am |
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Thank you TF for replying.
Can you eplain why you can't be a member?
Send a PM if you'd like.
God bless
Pete
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thinkfirst
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 01:05 am |
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| Pete, I attend every Sunday, but I would never hurt anyone involved by pointing out which church.
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 12:48 am |
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Pooh wrote..
Honestly if your going to be pushy its none of your bussiness and that is cowardly response - for you are not stupid - you know what the next question is going to be if you gave me the name of your church, right?
If you happen to go to church, and they have membership, then they have to have some rules to go by, right?
That means if a person coming to your church does not meet the requirements of YOUR church, by your previous post then YOUR church is JUDGING and that is bad --- ACCORDING TO YOU.
God bless,
Pete
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pooh_b_21632
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 12:40 am |
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Honestly if your going to be pushy its none of your bussiness
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 12:35 am |
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Let's get on with the dialogue.
Pooh - what church do you go to?
God bless,
Pete
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 12:28 am |
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Hi Pooh
What church do you go to?
God bless,
Pete
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pooh_b_21632
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 12:27 am |
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thinkfirst wrote: I'm slightly bitter, well, maybe more than slightly. I believe that Jesus IS the Savior and am born again since 1974. I also am divorced for several years. I've raised good kids, I love my companion, he loves me, and life is awesome. I work on my Faith and my humanity every day and make every effort to be a better person. BUT, though I accept the fact that my church doesn't want me as a member, it behooves me why the few members that are chosen use the N word, visibly sin, verbally offend churchgoers that disagree with certain things, and our church hasn't grown for 10 or 15 years. The slings and arrows shot at gays, or anyone considered a sinner, are uncalled for. Jesus loved a prostitute. I believe that the role of the Church is to NEVER turn their back on anyone, to welcome all that come with open arms. I don't believe that Paul the Apostle, or Jesus, would say "sorry you can't be a member of my Church because even though you believe I'm the savior, you're a sinner". Shoot, we'd all be hitting the road. I totally disagree with that whole line of thought.
Thankyou thinkfirst that was the point I was trying to make we are all sinners in some way or another and I just dont understand what gives anyone the right to stand on their high horse and make JUDGEMENTS of which sinners deserve to be church members and which ones do not get to be church members
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 12:23 am |
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Greetings TF,
What church are you referring to in regards to not making you a member, and why don't they make you a member.
The true Church does not turn its back on sinners.
All sinners can become part of the true church if the repent and commit to Christ.
God bless,
Pete
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thinkfirst
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Posted: Sun Jul 20th, 2008 12:16 am |
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| I'm slightly bitter, well, maybe more than slightly. I believe that Jesus IS the Savior and am born again since 1974. I also am divorced for several years. I've raised good kids, I love my companion, he loves me, and life is awesome. I work on my Faith and my humanity every day and make every effort to be a better person. BUT, though I accept the fact that my church doesn't want me as a member, it behooves me why the few members that are chosen use the N word, visibly sin, verbally offend churchgoers that disagree with certain things, and our church hasn't grown for 10 or 15 years. The slings and arrows shot at gays, or anyone considered a sinner, are uncalled for. Jesus loved a prostitute. I believe that the role of the Church is to NEVER turn their back on anyone, to welcome all that come with open arms. I don't believe that Paul the Apostle, or Jesus, would say "sorry you can't be a member of my Church because even though you believe I'm the savior, you're a sinner". Shoot, we'd all be hitting the road. I totally disagree with that whole line of thought. Last edited on Sun Jul 20th, 2008 12:17 am by thinkfirst
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 01:50 pm |
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4Godancountry wrote...
The Bible is the one and only authority on this matter, and all matters of life. Homosexuality is prohibited according to scripture. Of course so is lying, stealing, Murder, adultery and many other things to numerous to mention. I was listening to a popular Christian program, about a Gay man who became saved and began to serve the Lord, it was a year later before ,through God's Word and conviction, that he realized his Homosexuality was not pleasing to God. His Life style changed from that point. This is Growing in the Lord. As far as Judgment goes, we can only see the fruit of ones life (deeds, ) it is God who looks at the Heart of a person. While we can tell many things by observing ones deeds or works, we must be careful in doing so. Scripture does tell us to "judge nothing before it's time. It is when we claim Christianity (being Like Christ), but then to not walk and do the same things he did, that presents a problem.
I was thinking of that verse - phrase "..."judge nothing before it's time." as I was responding. For those that want the reference point, see 1Co 4:5.
Excellent post! Thank you.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 01:44 pm |
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| The Bible is the one and only authority on this matter, and all matters of life. Homosexuality is prohibited according to scripture. Of course so is lying, stealing, Murder, adultery and many other things to numerous to mention. I was listening to a popular Christian program, about a Gay man who became saved and began to serve the Lord, it was a year later before ,through God's Word and conviction, that he realized his Homosexuality was not pleasing to God. His Life style changed from that point. This is Growing in the Lord. As far as Judgment goes, we can only see the fruit of ones life (deeds, ) it is God who looks at the Heart of a person. While we can tell many things by observing ones deeds or works, we must be careful in doing so. Scripture does tell us to "judge nothing before it's time. It is when we claim Christianity (being Like Christ), but then to not walk and do the same things he did, that presents a problem.
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 01:00 pm |
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Pooh asked
Since a true christian improves over time does that mean a homosexual cannot be a christian because as long as they are in a homosexual relationship they are sinning? Yes, although I would word it this way - they are bearing fruit that indicates Christ is not in them - they are not born again if they insist on sinning.
This is true for every sin, not just homosexuality.
God bless,
Pete
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pooh_b_21632
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:57 pm |
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Since a true christian improves over time does that mean a homosexual cannot be a christian because as long as they are in a homosexual relationship they are sinning?
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:52 pm |
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Pooh asked...
does this mean all sinners cannot be official church members, or only gay people cannot be official church members? All sinners cannot be church members for sinners who have not come to Christ are not part of the universal and true church.
However, one who has truly committed Christ can become a member.
True Christians still sin, but the diference is in their commitment to Christ they make a notable effort to turn from their sin and their life will produce the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
Added - forgot to mention - a true Christian improves over a course of time.
God bless,
Pete
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pooh_b_21632
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:43 pm |
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Pete Macinta wrote: Everyone is welcome in my church, but not everyone can be an official member that has a say in church policy.
And each one of those points are supported by Scripture
does this mean all sinners cannot be official church members, or only gay people cannot be official church members?
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:39 pm |
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Pooh asked
on your church constitution gay people or people that are not offended by their gay friends are not welcome? Everyone is welcome in my church, but not everyone can be an official member that has a say in church policy.
And each one of those points are supported by Scripture.
homosexuality is a sin but are you not supposed to preach to sinners? Yes.
homosexuality is sin.
yes I am commanded to teach them - and everyone else.
Wasn't too sure what you were asking on that last one, but I think I figured it out.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:32 pm |
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Pete Macinta wrote: Well, well, well, I could say a lot here. But let's put it this way - the Word of God says it all.
Here are some Scriptures ... (from Article V of our church constitution - item "B" is omitted so we stay on track)
Marriage And Family
A. Marriage is that relationship between a man and a woman where, on the basis of mutual vow, love is expressed between the two, such expression includes fulfillment of sexual desire and the solemn privilege of procreation. This union is declared by Scriptures as holy and honorable, dissolvable only by the physical death of one of the two, and not by the writ and and/or action of man. Genesis 2:24, Malachi 2:13-16, Matthew 19:5-6, 1 Corinthians 7:3, 1 Corinthians 7:39, Ephesians 5:31, Hebrews 13:4
C. Polygamy, though mentioned in Scripture, was never sanctioned by God, and Scriptures indicate it is not the will of God. Genesis 2:21-24, 1 Kings 11:3-4,Matthew 19:4-6
D. Regardless of any edict of man and any vows of individuals and, whereas marriage as defined by the Word of God is between one man and one woman, unions between those of the same sex, or involving bisexual activity, or with another creature, or any combination of the foregoing, and any future innovation of man, is not deemed marriage in the sight of God, but an abomination to the shame of the image of God in man. Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 20:15, Acts 5:29, Romans 1:21-28, Galatians 5:19
E. Sexual fulfillment is to be only between husband and wife. 1 Corinthians 5:1, 1 Corinthian 6:18, Ephesians 5:3, Colossians 3:5, 1 Thessalonians 4:3, 2 Timothy 2:22
F. No member of this fellowship shall perform, officiate, condone, encourage, or solemnize any union or actions described in paragraphs "B" to "E" in this section on Marriage and Family, nor anything contrary to paragraph "A" of the same. 2 Corinthians 6:14, Ephesians 5:3-12, Revelation 18:4
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God bless,
Pete
This is a post by you, and I would like some clarification here. In the other thread you said that people of all races are welcome at your church, but according to item F. on your church constitution gay people or people that are not offended by their gay friends are not welcome? You also said that you must preach against sin and homosexuality is a sin but are you not supposed to preach to sinners?
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:22 pm |
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Pooh wrote...
Can anyone that said they were not judgemental on the "how I was raised to look at blacks" thread also say they were not judgemental here? Yes, I can. Read every post I made - therefore one gets the whole context.
Also, explain the difference between judging someone for their skin color and judging them for their gender or sexual preference. Biblically there is no diffence in races, but the Bible comes against sin.
It is not a sin to be Caucasian, or African American, etc.
But, as sbown by Scripture, homosexuality is sin.
Let's get this straight. God is judge. He has already made the judgment that homosexuality is sin, just like drunkeness, false witnesseing, etc. Those that minister the Gospel pass that message on. The remedy is Jesus Christ. One does not know they need that remedy until they are convinced they are a sinner and what they are doing is sin. So, teaching and preaching against sin is needful to bring a person to the cure.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:12 pm |
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| I would treat them with respect wheter it was legal or not.....
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:08 pm |
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Pooh, yes I can.
If you would read what I have posted.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:07 pm |
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Sue does that mean that even though you disagree with same sex marriages that it maryland approved it and you had several same sex marriage couples in secretary you would treat them respectfully in a civil manner?
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 12:01 pm |
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I think Pooh, there is a difference between being judgemental and sharing a feeling or an opinion.
No where in the other thread did I hear any insulting or rude remarks about a person or people....only how their experiences had shaped their views.
I know this is trite...but you can disagree with something or someone, dislike a behavior and still treat the person with caring and respect.
I actually think it is better for us all if we are able to articulate our feelings and explain why they are what they are. It makes for more understanding and even though we may not agree on many things.....at least we know what someone believes and why.
The biggest thing is to always be civil and respectful to everyone.
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 11:55 am |
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Can anyone that said they were not judgemental on the "how I was raised to look at blacks" thread also say they were not judgemental here?
Also, explain the difference between judging someone for their skin color and judging them for their gender or sexual preference.
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Mon Jun 9th, 2008 03:01 am |
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slammen asked,
hay pete is that true on the death bed too?
and I think he is referring to...
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Somewhere else I noted that when we repent (in this case the word confess is being used), the ability to have true repentence must come from God. If a person has been harboring sin, they might ask for forgiveness on their death bed, but might not have true repentence.
So, in answer to your question, it depends if the person has true repentence - not simply, "O rats I'm dying and I don't want to go to hell," but it must include true sorrow for sending Christ to the cross for our sin and a full commitment to Him.
Please keep in mind we do not go to heaven or hell for what we do, but because of what we are - either a child of God or not a child of God.
If we are a child of God, we will do the works that Christ would do - spontaneously - that is - He lives through us and does the actions as we permit Him.
God bless,
Pete
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| hay pete is that true on the death bed too?
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| WBAL TV reported tonite that the Anglican Bishop from N.H who is gay married his long time partner today.
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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 07:12 pm |
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Pete Macinta wrote:
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Well that's always nice.
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 06:34 pm |
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xoxoxo asked...
So does that mean the child could be in purgotory? (sp?)
The Holy Bible says nothing about purgatory.
However, the dead will be raised to only two choices.
Danile 12:2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
The death of a true Christ means being in the heavenly presence of Christ Himself...
2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
This is made possible because if we truly are sorry and confess our sins to Him, we read ...
1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
That word "all" in the above verse is mighty comforting.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 06:14 pm |
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| So does that mean the child could be in purgotory? (sp?)
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 06:06 pm |
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xoxoxo asked...
So what happens if a child that has not reached that age when he can except Christ and he dies? That exact thing happened to king David's first child by Bathsheba. His statement, directed by the Holy Spirit, was ...
2Sa 12:23 But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.
We know from other verses that when David died, he died as a righteous man and would not be damned (in fact, Ezekiel alludes that David will be raised from the dead for Christ's millenial reign). His statement above at the death of his child indicates the child did not meet damnation after death.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 05:48 pm |
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| So what happens if a child that has not reached that age when he can except Christ and he dies?
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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 01:18 pm |
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xoxoxo wrote...
What is it doesn't? We are assured in the Holy Bible it does happen...
John 1:9 That was the true Light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
and what if they don't know religion to know what the Holy Spirit is? One does not need to know religion to know what the Holy Spirit is.
This is seen in ...
Romans 1:19d-20
... for God hath shown it unto them. For from the creation of the world the invisible things of Him are clearly seen, being understood through the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse.
There is definitely a difference between religion as most think of it and a direct relationship with God.
Sometime when I was a teen and still hated God and the churches, I received a Gospel tract in the mail titled...
"Religion is a Drag." I, of course, agreed with the title and when I read it my mind was really opened to the fact that Jesus Christ is one thing, religion is another.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Thu Jun 5th, 2008 12:32 pm |
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Pete Macinta wrote: How do children accept Christ as their savior? Another good question.
Simply put, when they reach the point of accountability (some people say age of accountability) the Holy Spirit can move upon them when they receive the message of the Gospel and they can decide like anyone else whether to commit to Christ or not.
The point of accountability is dif for dif people.
Must go for a bit,
shutting down due to t-storm.
God bless,
Pete
What is it doesn't? and what if they don't know religion to know what the Holy Spirit is?
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 08:08 pm |
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How do children accept Christ as their savior? Another good question.
Simply put, when they reach the point of accountability (some people say age of accountability) the Holy Spirit can move upon them when they receive the message of the Gospel and they can decide like anyone else whether to commit to Christ or not.
The point of accountability is dif for dif people.
Must go for a bit,
shutting down due to t-storm.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 07:12 pm |
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Pete Macinta wrote:
But to answer your question, one goes to hell not for what they do, but for not accepting Christ as their Savior.
How do children accept Christ as their savior?
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 07:03 pm |
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What about children? Cambridge Native said that he had known he was gay since he was very young. If he got hit by a car and passed away at a young age, would he have gone to Hell?
Again, I personally would not go by what he says because of reasons already stated.
But to answer your question, one goes to hell not for what they do, but for not accepting Christ as their Savior.
Be back shortly,
Lord willing that is,
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 06:59 pm |
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What about children?
Cambridge Native said that he had known he was gay since he was very young. If he got hit by a car and passed away at a young age, would he have gone to Hell?
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 06:49 pm |
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1. Okay...He is holy, sooo what's that got to do with having another idea?
2. Maybe He just didn't change for the sons of Jacob?
3. What do gay people have to do with our needs today?
Holy
Ok, on holy, first when He created mankind He created them male and female and said this was good, in fact decreed everything very good in Gen 1:31. In Gen we also see that he made a woman for the man.
In the NT, again that passage...
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
God said the same sex relationships we face today are wrong, He said it in the OT and NT. His holiness is an unmoveable and unchageable standard. which led to #2
#2 unchangeable - Yes, He said that to the sons of Jacob, but that does not mean He is unchangeable only for the sons of Jacob. A similar NT verse is Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
#3. What do gay people have to do with our needs today?
Because you and I and others are discussing if there should be same sex marriage. Going by the Holy Bible, we already have the answer, which is no.
In other words, the Word of God is sufficient to meet all our needs.
Like yesterday, I said Christ is to be the Standard, and the Holy Bible defines to us what that Standard is.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 06:30 pm |
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Pete Macinta wrote: Who's to say God didn't come up with another idea?
Good question.
Albeit, three factors here.
1- He is holy. (predominate moral attribute throughout the Bible to describe God)
2- Immutable (does not change) -Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
3- The Holy Bible, as directed by His Holy Spirit, is the complete revelation of the will of God for our needs today.
God bless,
Pete
1. Okay...He is holy, sooo what's that got to do with having another idea?
2. Maybe He just didn't change for the sons of Jacob?
3. What do gay people have to do with our needs today?
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Who's to say God didn't come up with another idea?
Good question.
Albeit, three factors here.
1- He is holy. (predominate moral attribute throughout the Bible to describe God)
2- Immutable (does not change) -Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
3- The Holy Bible, as directed by His Holy Spirit, is the complete revelation of the will of God for our needs today.
God bless,
Pete
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brett504 wrote: God made man to be with a woman and a woman to be with a man.
Not a man be with a man. And a woman be with a woman.
Who's to say God didn't come up with another idea?
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xoxoxo wrote..
I've got another question, Pete. Since Jesus was Jewish, why wouldn't you want to be the same religious as him? Well He was Jewish alright - but He was their Messiah (we say Christ - from the Greek).
Most Jews rejected Him. Those that believed on Him were eventually called Christians (book of Acts so records).
Today, an orthodox Jew does not feel that their Messiah has come and therefore rejects Jesus as Messiah. So, for me to be a Jew in that strict sense would mean for me to agree wiith them that Christ did not come.
Now, spiritually speaking, when someone does fully commit to Christ and becomes a real Christian, they become a spiritual son of Abraham and so a spiritual Jew.
The requirements of the Jewish law were fulfilled in Jesus - thus I am not required to wear a beard, eat unleavened bread near Passover, etc. The intent and principles of the law are clarified in the New Testament and kept by true Christians.
God bless,
Pete
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God made man to be with a woman and a woman to be with a man.
Not a man be with a man. And a woman be with a woman.
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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 05:12 pm |
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I've got another question, Pete.
Since Jesus was Jewish, why wouldn't you want to be the same religious as him?
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xoxoxo
Okay I see what you're asking now. That's a tricky question. My own personal standards are different based on different situations. I base most things on personal experience, morals, respect, instincts, etc. Whoops. Did not mean for it to be tricky, although I now see how it could be.
You gave a good insightful answer though.
Anyhow, in a nutshell, one will find there are many variables. For example, just on respect, one's level of respect - and the basis for respect for let's Frank in situation "Z" might change over the years (you've heard it said before - people change with age - some mellow, some get cranky).
So it's good to have an unmoveable gage to go by, and since, most of us agree here we have to answer to God, that gage is Christ. God, in His Wisdom, knew we would all have our own ideas of Who Christ is and what He desires, so He put in black and white - so to speak - for us, the Holy Bible.
So, when I got saved, born-again, I know longer had to wonder about many things if they were right or wrong. Christ inside the person will attempt to guide that person, and the person can check to make sure they are following by checking the Holy Bible.
We are about to get a new storm door. With the door comes instructions.
When we came into this world, there was an instruction Book waiting for us - the Holy Bible.
Every person that I have met that has truly committed to Christ finds comfort in what the Bible says. Questions about what is right and wrong are readily answered as we see what His Word says. It just brings a lot of peace. At least to me.
On Paradise, if you want to read something neat, please read Rev. 21 to 22. No more pain. No more death or tears.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Tue Jun 3rd, 2008 07:42 pm |
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Okay I see what you're asking now. That's a tricky question. My own personal standards are different based on different situations. I base most things on personal experience, morals, respect, instincts, etc.
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