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| My friend wants to be involved again. Maybe he will get another chance there. I think he would do a great job. He certainly has the experience and the drive to make things happen.
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| Pound Hound you are correct! I remember when I was working there we had concerts every month, and very good ticket sales as well. The snack bar was always booming, and we had about 6 empolyees just to maintain the snack bar and kitchen. It will be a sucess if the right people are involved.
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4Godncountry wrote: Sailwinds needs to diversify! Several years ago someone sponsored bringing Rev Jesse Duplantis in, It was well attended. Someone needs to see the larger picture and bring in things that would appeal to many different people. The Drifters? My children do not even know who they are! While I am sure many of that era will attend, but this is only covering one aspect of our population, there is much more out there!
If the right person or people get in there that will happen.
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Sailwinds needs to diversify! Several years ago someone sponsored bringing Rev Jesse Duplantis in, It was well attended. Someone needs to see the larger picture and bring in things that would appeal to many different people. The Drifters? My children do not even know who they are! While I am sure many of that era will attend, but this is only covering one aspect of our population, there is much more out there!
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Now see , that is the post that I took as " Mr. Wilson " being smart with " Frank " ... and that he really was not the grave yard bandit .....
I guess its all about perception ....and how different we all think about what we read.
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grady wilson jr wrote:
No offense intended GYB, but it seems that after comparing posts, 'grave yard bandit' and 'grady wilson jr' might be one and the same ... either that, or the two of you had the same third grade spelling teacher. What do you think ...... MABY'???
Frank,
You really should go to work for the police dept. if you figured out that fast that I was the grave yard bandit than you have missed your calling. Thats why I signed on here with my real name because unlike you If I have something to say I don't care who knows it. Like Carlton said if you have a problem with sail winds call the office and make an appointment to talk to him. The number is (410)228-7245 but you all ready have that.
Here is the post! "Leroy" is soon to be former Mayor Rippons.
LA...I agree with what you are saying but everyone that leaves that place says the same thing about the same 3 people. Everyone can't be wrong.
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Why not contact the Mayor Elect ( proper title ? ) and ask these questions of her ?
I never did understand why certain individuals were trashed when ever there is mention of Sailwinds . It is quite sad . I am sure everyone has their faults and their opinions , but it seems that some have done what they feel is right to help run Sailwinds ( not that we are all going to agree on that ) .........and to keep it going .
Others have given up on it .......
I can't wait to see what the new Mayor does .... although I don't live in the city , I do want to see Sailwinds be succesful .
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| I could really care less about the individuals, and am only concerned about Sailwinds itself. If Sailwinds is being Mis-managed by an appointed board, regardless of WHO they are,than who does the appointing? If it is the Mayor and Council, than let's voice our concern to them. As I can see through this thread, nothing is being accomplished by accusations. I would like some FACTS! Board members have no place debating Sailwinds, in for the most part, what is an anonymous forum.
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Now I am really confused .........I thought Grady Wilson said he only posted as himself in an earlier post ...... and did NOT hide behind any other screen names .......
and who is Leroy ?
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grave yard bandit wrote:How fitting to have the last show at sail winds on Elvis birthday maybe he hasn't left the building but it sounds like LEROY has and that is a loss for Cambridge.
Elvis was not born on Aug 16th, he was born on Jan 8th. He died on Aug 16th.
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grave yard bandit wrote: 4Godncountry wrote: Thanks PH, so does the city budget money for sailwinds operation, or does it soley stand alone on what money it generates?
I think that the city gives sail winds money to operate. But from what I heard Leroy was the person that mainly kept the place going. But we will all know in time. It will be a shame for Cambridge to lose a place like sail winds. I see the Drifters will be there on August 16, how many people do you all think will show up or buy tickets, it might be the last time sail winds will have a show there.
How fitting to have the last show at sail winds on Elvis birthday maybe he hasn't left the building but it sounds like LEROY has and that is a loss for Cambridge.
Hate to tell you this but Sailwinds was up and running before and after he become mayor and still will run after he is gone. It is like the DODGE Pickup commercial says THE RULES HAVE CHANGED........ 
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4Godncountry wrote: Thanks PH, so does the city budget money for sailwinds operation, or does it soley stand alone on what money it generates?
I think that the city gives sail winds money to operate. But from what I heard Leroy was the person that mainly kept the place going. But we will all know in time. It will be a shame for Cambridge to lose a place like sail winds. I see the Drifters will be there on August 16, how many people do you all think will show up or buy tickets, it might be the last time sail winds will have a show there.
How fitting to have the last show at sail winds on Elvis birthday maybe he hasn't left the building but it sounds like LEROY has and that is a loss for Cambridge.
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| Thanks PH, so does the city budget money for sailwinds operation, or does it soley stand alone on what money it generates?
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4Godncountry wrote: This may have been explained on this thread, but what IS the City's role with sailwinds. was it sold to the city? Leased from the county? Is it non-profit? I have been disgusted with it and many other City decisions for many years so I haven't followed it until recently.
To my knowledge, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, the City leases the property from the state after formerly being the property owner. The City provides "in-kind" services like lawn care and trash removal. Sailwinds is a Non-Profit Organization run by a Board of Directors supposedly appointed by the City Council. They are required to report to the city on regular terms about various things ( I don't know all the details, just what I've been told from numerous people who used to be involved ) and the Mayor was the liaison between the Board and the city with no official capacity toward Sailwinds business...officially that is. I do know that he has been influential in many things at Sailwinds both positive and negative. More negative to my knowledge but again I wasn't directly involved.
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| This may have been explained on this thread, but what IS the City's role with sailwinds. was it sold to the city? Leased from the county? Is it non-profit? I have been disgusted with it and many other City decisions for many years so I haven't followed it until recently.
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| Who will be running the Sailwinds Park now that we have a new mayor. Will Ms. Stanley take on that responsibility? I feel she would do a good job. What will happen to the present board members? Just wondering.
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Chris is an amazingly nice person. He's one of the few true and honest people that I have met in Cambridge. I don't know the situation as well as some others but his post on here seems to be an explanation of what's going on behind the scenes so to speak. I wasn't interested in the whole mess until Chris stepped up and spoke his mind and didn't hide behind an anonymous screen name.
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4Godncountry wrote: I agree totally, It has not lived up to the dream at all for what ever reasons.
If something isn't done it will become another white elephant.
If you read back a ways my friend Chris explained the issues there. It's not the entire Board but a few certain members that are causing the issues there. Everyone that I talk to says he's right on the money with his thoughts and reasoning. I was at the council meeting that night and it was clear that a certain member of the Board had influenced the other members into thinking that Chris was attacking all of them when he wasn't. Although they didn't mention his name during the meeting it was clear who they were talking about. It's a shame too. He was more upset that the hard working and honest members of the board were being told that he was putting them down when he clearly wasn't.
The one thing that I noticed at that meeting was how the certain members that he wrote about here did everything they could to get "kudos" for their hard work. And while it's true that they all work hard I personally don't believe that mediocre results and an unwillingness to remedy the issues deserves accolades. Just a thought.
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I agree totally, It has not lived up to the dream at all for what ever reasons.
If something isn't done it will become another white elephant.
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I have had so many people tell me that I needed to read this most ridiculous blog that I finally broke down and came to see for myself.... it's like sneeking a peek at an accident and only typical for poor "old sailwinds" and I say that with much respect.
As someone who was very involved in this project for many years and who finally, to save their own sanity, had to "let it go" I would like to say the following ~
First of all ~ another fine mess that we "cambridge" just can't seem to get right - this is Sailwinds Park. To the NEW REGIME PLEASE- look at other counties/cities - let me pick Talbot and Wicomico since they are the easiest and who we can relate to - you as the new regime, give the Sailwinds Park Board members a "project" ~ split it between the board, do research on the Talbot County Community Center and the Wicomico County Convention Center - this is how this property MUST be operated - no if, and or but's about it - the board should be an ADVISORY board and that is it. You must hire an executive director and let the director do their job. Look at all of the things that we, the citizens of Cambridge, have just let go by and we speak up when it is too late! This is something we need to do before it is too late. Talk to your new commissioners - say I want Sailwinds SAVED! I know the original plan was to commercially develop the property ~ and that was a great idea 20 years ago (YES I said 20 years ago) when this all started but things have changed ~ look around Cambridge - look at the EMPTY Acme building, Kmart Building, Metro Building, Food City Building - empty buildings downtown - we do not need more commercial development on the waterfront - WE NEED SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF~ something to improve the quality of life for the citizens of the county ~ green space where we can show all the visitors and locals alike why this is such a great place to have grown up and lived. I have a feeling that what is going on at Sailwinds now is playing right into the hands of those that want to grease their pockets see the place bulldozed down and more beautiful, shiney, tall, concrete, don't really fit in with the landscape, make your guts turn and your eyes tear condos, townhomes and such pop up on our waterfront. Enough is enough ~ PLEASE LET'S GET A PLAN!!!!! LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING!!!!! LET'S MAKE OURSELVES PROUD INSTEAD OF ANOTHER EMBARASSMENT FOR US!!!!!
Find out how these above mentioned facilities are run, who do they answer to?, do they have board of dirctors?, how does one get on the board?, look at their budgets, how/do they get grant money? ~ hire an executive director who can get a plan in place - how to accomplish it and make it happen - that's what it needs - Sailwinds should be the heart of the city rather than this ugly sore it has become.
Lastly it is just embarassing ~ a Sailwinds Board member is bantering back and forth on a blog with citizens like this - the board president/ city council needs to put a stop to this IMMEDIATELY - this is not how someone in a leadership role on such a prestigious board should act - and I mean that with the most respect! Sailwinds Board members - do you realize what an important gem you have in your hands - really think about it!!! I too don't know who the board members are and have heard... well this person is not on the board anymore but then here they did this or they did that for Sailwinds. Or this person is on the board and then 1 month later they are not on the board anymore because they can't take it. If you are just going to show up at the meetings then please get off of the board and let someone that really wants to put their heart into it volunteer- this is not a joke - it is very serious and one of our community's last chances to do something RIGHT!
I hope I haven't bored people with my post. If you think any of this makes sense - please talk to your city and county representatives - let them know how you feel or pass this message on to others. It's our last chance.to save Sailwinds because unfortunately I think I hear the bulldozers starting their engines........
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No offense intended GYB, but it seems that after comparing posts, 'grave yard bandit' and 'grady wilson jr' might be one and the same ... either that, or the two of you had the same third grade spelling teacher. What do you think ...... MABY'???
Frank,
You really should go to work for the police dept. if you figured out that fast that I was the grave yard bandit than you have missed your calling. Thats why I signed on here with my real name because unlike you If I have something to say I don't care who knows it. Like Carlton said if you have a problem with sail winds call the office and make an appointment to talk to him. The number is (410)228-7245 but you all ready have that.
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grave yard bandit wrote: strings-n-things wrote: Chris Abbott wrote: grady wilson jr wrote: Grady Wrote
When you name names then it gets personal and so far all I have read on here is how bad me the mayor and Troy Hill have run sail winds in the ground. I HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING ON HERE ABOUT WHAT YOU DID OR DIDN'T DO WHILE YOU WERE AT SAIL WINDS OTHER THAN STARTED TICKET MASTER BUT I AM THE ONE SLINGING MUD.I would never respond to some ones opinion about how bad sail winds is or how bad it is being run but when you put names to that then it becomes personal. You know what you are doing when it comes to the entertainment aspect you will be fine and with your help sail winds will be a place for everyone in the area to enjoy.If I instigated trouble that would mean I would be doing harm to Carlton and thats not going to happen its hard enough trying to operate sail winds as it is, let alone another person added to the list that all they have is bad things to say . I have never blamed or said our failures were some one else fault but there I am slinging mud.The truth is you said you would like to be a part of sail winds again but you would not do it if me, the mayor, and Troy Hill were involved I am trying to make a wish of yours come true and I am not even getting a thank you.
Stating an opinion is not a personal attack. Trust me Grady if I wanted to attack you personally I would and could but such attacks are unwarranted and accomplish nothing. I even offered my phone number so we could discuss this matter privately but you seem to want to make some sort of grandstand out of this whole thing. My post was my opinion based on observations made by me. If you took it personal then that's your problem. Personally I have no animosity toward you, Troy or the Mayor even though if I did have issues with the Mayor they would be warranted! I saw Troy at a Council meeting a few weeks ago and said Hi to him like I always do. Even offered him a seat. I have even waved to you on the road and you turn your head when I know you see me. You are the one that took business related matters personal. Not me.
As for your last comment about making my wish come true I'll tell you what. When this is over Wednesday night and if I am appointed to the Board and you guys tender your resignation I will not only thank you but I'll shake your hand. Fair enough?
Was anything resolved Wednesday night at the 'City Council' meeting ????
Frank, Why don't you just let things rest. Do you want somebody to start a topic about "In my opinion frank does not treat his customers very well" It looks like there are several personalty's involved in sail winds and maybe thats why every body can't get along. Why don't you ask to be put on the board then maby you can make a difference instead of making trouble. Thats just my opinion
GYB asked: Why don't you just let things rest. (?)
WHY???? GYB, that's easy!! ... 'Murphy's Law' states that, "if things are left to their own devices, they will generally go from bad to worse". There are people that have put effort into this topic .... their questions deserve to be answered. It's obvious that the participants involved with the 'Board' have been instructed to steer clear of here. That's OK!! The public has demonstrated that they are interested in the welfare of Sailwinds Park. This forum is doing what it was created for.
GYB asked: Do you want somebody to start a topic about "In my opinion frank does not treat his customers very well" (?)
That would be great! After all GYB ... This is a 'Public Opinion' forum. Feedback from my customers would make Strings-N-Things a better business. If I have mistreated my customers, I will end up out-of-business. On the other hand, some might reply that I don't charge enough for what I do.
Sailwinds is in the same boat ... If the 'powers to be' mistreat the 'board', the volunteers, the performers, the donors, and the good people that spend their hard earned $'s patronizing Sailwinds .... Sailwinds will cease to exist ... as it should be.
Will being a 'Grave Yard Bandit' afford you a new waterfront condo when Sailwinds is gone???? I think NOT! ... Unless YOU are benefiting directly by Sailwinds' failing and going to its' grave!!!
GYB stated: It looks like there are several personalty's involved in sail winds and maybe thats why every body can't get along.
GYB ... You are 100% correct! If you read the last article I posted, you would realize that PERSONALality's has no place on the 'Board of Directors' .... Leave it at the door! If your personality gets in the way of doing what's best for Sailwinds .. or if you're there just for 'name recognition' ... you don't belong on the board!
The members don't need to get along personally. They need to put their personality's aside and work together for the good of the organization ... 'Sailwinds Park'.
GYB asked: Why don't you ask to be put on the board then maby you can make a difference instead of making trouble. (?)
Making TROUBLE???? GYB, I merely opened a channel of communication. Why are you here?? I would be more than happy to help at Sailwinds free of personal gain, as long as it doesn't require joining the ranks of the 'MUSHROOMS'.
You can't always just tap dance around the problems ... sometimes you have to step on some toes!
GYB stated: Thats just my opinion (.)
You're right again! GYB ... After all ... This is a 'Public Opinion' forum. Thank you for your input.
No offense intended GYB, but it seems that after comparing posts, 'grave yard bandit' and 'grady wilson jr' might be one and the same ... either that, or the two of you had the same third grade spelling teacher. What do you think ...... MABY'???
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strings-n-things wrote: Chris Abbott wrote: grady wilson jr wrote: Grady Wrote
When you name names then it gets personal and so far all I have read on here is how bad me the mayor and Troy Hill have run sail winds in the ground. I HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING ON HERE ABOUT WHAT YOU DID OR DIDN'T DO WHILE YOU WERE AT SAIL WINDS OTHER THAN STARTED TICKET MASTER BUT I AM THE ONE SLINGING MUD.I would never respond to some ones opinion about how bad sail winds is or how bad it is being run but when you put names to that then it becomes personal. You know what you are doing when it comes to the entertainment aspect you will be fine and with your help sail winds will be a place for everyone in the area to enjoy.If I instigated trouble that would mean I would be doing harm to Carlton and thats not going to happen its hard enough trying to operate sail winds as it is, let alone another person added to the list that all they have is bad things to say . I have never blamed or said our failures were some one else fault but there I am slinging mud.The truth is you said you would like to be a part of sail winds again but you would not do it if me, the mayor, and Troy Hill were involved I am trying to make a wish of yours come true and I am not even getting a thank you.
Stating an opinion is not a personal attack. Trust me Grady if I wanted to attack you personally I would and could but such attacks are unwarranted and accomplish nothing. I even offered my phone number so we could discuss this matter privately but you seem to want to make some sort of grandstand out of this whole thing. My post was my opinion based on observations made by me. If you took it personal then that's your problem. Personally I have no animosity toward you, Troy or the Mayor even though if I did have issues with the Mayor they would be warranted! I saw Troy at a Council meeting a few weeks ago and said Hi to him like I always do. Even offered him a seat. I have even waved to you on the road and you turn your head when I know you see me. You are the one that took business related matters personal. Not me.
As for your last comment about making my wish come true I'll tell you what. When this is over Wednesday night and if I am appointed to the Board and you guys tender your resignation I will not only thank you but I'll shake your hand. Fair enough?
Was anything resolved Wednesday night at the 'City Council' meeting ????
Frank, Why don't you just let things rest. Do you want somebody to start a topic about "In my opinion frank does not treat his customers very well" It looks like there are several personalty's involved in sail winds and maybe thats why every body can't get along. Why don't you ask to be put on the board then maby you can make a difference instead of making trouble. Thats just my opinion
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Chris Abbott wrote: grady wilson jr wrote: Grady Wrote
When you name names then it gets personal and so far all I have read on here is how bad me the mayor and Troy Hill have run sail winds in the ground. I HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING ON HERE ABOUT WHAT YOU DID OR DIDN'T DO WHILE YOU WERE AT SAIL WINDS OTHER THAN STARTED TICKET MASTER BUT I AM THE ONE SLINGING MUD.I would never respond to some ones opinion about how bad sail winds is or how bad it is being run but when you put names to that then it becomes personal. You know what you are doing when it comes to the entertainment aspect you will be fine and with your help sail winds will be a place for everyone in the area to enjoy.If I instigated trouble that would mean I would be doing harm to Carlton and thats not going to happen its hard enough trying to operate sail winds as it is, let alone another person added to the list that all they have is bad things to say . I have never blamed or said our failures were some one else fault but there I am slinging mud.The truth is you said you would like to be a part of sail winds again but you would not do it if me, the mayor, and Troy Hill were involved I am trying to make a wish of yours come true and I am not even getting a thank you.
Stating an opinion is not a personal attack. Trust me Grady if I wanted to attack you personally I would and could but such attacks are unwarranted and accomplish nothing. I even offered my phone number so we could discuss this matter privately but you seem to want to make some sort of grandstand out of this whole thing. My post was my opinion based on observations made by me. If you took it personal then that's your problem. Personally I have no animosity toward you, Troy or the Mayor even though if I did have issues with the Mayor they would be warranted! I saw Troy at a Council meeting a few weeks ago and said Hi to him like I always do. Even offered him a seat. I have even waved to you on the road and you turn your head when I know you see me. You are the one that took business related matters personal. Not me.
As for your last comment about making my wish come true I'll tell you what. When this is over Wednesday night and if I am appointed to the Board and you guys tender your resignation I will not only thank you but I'll shake your hand. Fair enough?
Was anything resolved Wednesday night at the 'City Council' meeting ????
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In all fairness to the 'Board of Directors' at Sailwinds, I am including an excerpt from a very informative website. The public should know what to expect from the directors, and the directors should know what is expected of them!
The Key to Nonprofit Governance
Duties and Responsibilities of Directors
See < http://www.t-tlaw.com/np-02a.htm > for the entire article.
It is not easy to govern a nonprofit organization because there are few standards by which to measure achievement. There is no bottom line of profit or return on investment as in business corporations. The results are intangible and difficult to quantify. Thus, the board has a difficult responsibility to fulfill. Nevertheless, directors are accountable to act in the best interests of the organization and they cannot afford to be ignorant of their duties.
Every director occupies a position of trust in a nonprofit organization. This means a director should act in the best interests of the organization, not his or her own interests. Directors are accountable to fulfill their duties on behalf of the organization under applicable standards of conduct. Every state has specified duties which the directors and officers of business corporations must fulfill.
A business consultant to nonprofit organizations was asked whether the directors of his client organizations understood their responsibilities. He replied, "about 70% of the boards we've seen and worked with see themselves as passive bodies serving for name recognition. They do not realize their responsibilities and when I've pointed them out some of the directors resigned on the spot."
1. The duty of care
If directors act without adequate information, they expose themselves to possible liability for breaching their duty of care.
The duty of care means that directors should care about the organization they serve. Board decisions should be made deliberately out of a sense of deep concern for the best interests of the organization. It also means that directors should base their decisions upon facts and reliable information. The duty of care requires directors and officers not to act without first taking care to be properly informed.
The essence of a director's duty of care is to act under the circumstances with the care and concern of an ordinarily prudent person. This is the normal legal
standard of director conduct. To act without having adequate information is to risk a foolish breach of the duty of care.
Example
The President of Trade Association directed the association treasurer to pay $25,000 to a close friend of the President. This friend needed funds to pay a personal debt and avoid foreclosure on his house. The treasurer made the payment over protests, but neither she nor the President disclosed the matter to the association board. Yet, the board of Trade Association did later learn of this improper transfer of funds. However, the board did not take any action to collect the money or reprimand the President for using association assets to benefit a private individual. Did the board breach its duty of care? Yes. Directors are not liable for improper transactions which management hides from their knowledge. When the board discovers improper transactions, though, it has a duty to act. By failing to take any action after discovering this impropriety, the board breached its duty of care.
2. The duty of loyalty
The duty of loyalty is closely related to a director's duty of care. The duty of loyalty requires directors to act in the best interests of the organization, not their own. It is a duty which embraces fairness, good faith and honesty. It is the intention to advance and protect the organization free of any conflicts of interest or self-dealing. It is a duty which demands a director's allegiance to the organization's best interests. It requires directors to act without contemplating any direct or indirect personal financial gain or business opportunity.
Example
The president of Relief Agency told the treasurer of a wholly owned profit subsidiary to pay $150,000 to a director of Relief Agency This was done so the director could make an overdue mortgage payment on some vacant land he owned. Before the payment was made, the director agreed to donate the land to Relief Agency Soon after the payment, he gave the land to the organization free of all debt, which the board of Relief Agency accepted. However, neither the president nor the involved director told the board about the $150,000 payment. Was there a breach of the duty of loyalty? Yes. Both the president and the involved director breached their duties of loyalty by failing to disclose the nature of the transaction to the board. The value of the subsidiary stock held by Relief Agency was decreased by the amount of the payment. The director was unjustly enriched, not only by the cash he received, but also by the tax savings realized after donating the land. The director will be liable for taxes on the money he received, and should not have voted to accept his donation. The payment was not in the best interests of either Relief Agency or its subsidiary.
In the above example nearly everything was mishandled.
3. The duty of obedience
The duty of obedience is a duty to carry-out the organization's nonprofit purposes and to obey the law. It requires a knowledge of the organization's mission and the laws which affect the carrying-out of the mission. The duty of loyalty requires directors to take all necessary and reasonable measures to assure compliance with the law. This does not mean that directors are personally responsible for obeying every federal, state and municipal law or regulation affecting the organization, however. Rather, directors are responsible to ensure that board policies and decisions obey the law. Management is responsible to ensure that its actions obey the law.
THE MOST IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY
Although the preceding duties are important, there are still other duties which may be more important. Perhaps the single most important task of directors is to evaluate the performance of the organization's chief officer. In practice, directors of nonprofit organizations rarely check the chief officer's performance. They are reluctant to do so for two reasons.
First, the director may have been appointed to or nominated for their position by the chief officer.
Second, a director may hesitate to check the performance of a person claiming to be accountable only to donors or members. Nevertheless, directors are legally responsible to oversee organizational affairs. This responsibility includes evaluation of the chief officer. It even includes reprimanding the chief officer or terminating his or her employment if circumstances warrant. Such actions may seem extreme, but they are not. Directors are responsible to supervise the affairs of the organization and to act in its best interests. If a chief officer acts unethically or illegally he or she should be confronted. It is not in the best interests of any organization for improper conduct to go unchecked. If abuses are not curtailed when discovered, more abuses will occur. Soon, the integrity of the entire organization will be compromised.
Working together, directors and chief officers can each fulfill his or her duties and advance the interests of the organization they serve.
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Posted: Wed Jun 25th, 2008 05:37 pm |
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Farmer wrote: I think if they really want to make some money they should sell tickets to their next board meeting.
I think that would be a SELL OUT! But better bring your boots, S*** gets real deep in there.
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law_girl428
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Posted: Wed Jun 25th, 2008 01:10 pm |
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Farmer wrote: I think if they really want to make some money they should sell tickets to their next board meeting.
HAHAHAHAH. Now that's been the best idea yet.
The problem is and will continue to be that the current leadership isn't working. Want to see changes? Start there.
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Posted: Wed Jun 25th, 2008 01:03 pm |
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| I think if they really want to make some money they should sell tickets to their next board meeting.
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Posted: Wed Jun 25th, 2008 01:01 pm |
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Sailwinds IS and HAS been an asset to our County.
Yes, there are internal problems and I hope they can be worked out but we really need to pull together on this issue and support Sailwinds.
I would hate to see us lose something that should be such a positive.
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Posted: Wed Jun 25th, 2008 12:53 pm |
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It is obvious that there are issues between members of this community where Sailwinds is concerned .
As adults , can we agree to disagree and move on . .....
Can we put the past behind us to open the door to the future for Sailwinds ....
Most importanty , can we come together to better Sailwinds and to make it successful ......
Stay tuned.........
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Posted: Wed Jun 25th, 2008 11:01 am |
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mlj20151 wrote: I must say. I am not from around here. I was looking up information on the choptank river festival and this was at the top of the search results page. Just thought I would let you guys know. - Thanks
Well this thread is really good press for the Town, County, Sailwinds and the Choptank River Feastival........NOT..
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Posted: Wed Jun 25th, 2008 05:00 am |
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I don't know if that is a good trade dog three for one. I say Mr. Abbott should ask to be put back on the roster and keep trying to do what is best for sailwinds. the four people involved should call a truice.
If any body on here wants them to call a truice give me a H;;; yeah
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 08:22 pm |
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| Do they make Rain X for these computer screens, everytime I click on this thread it get all misty and starts to have tears running out of the bottom. If this keeps up I am going to have to lay a towel under to wipe up the puddle.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 07:49 pm |
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| I must say. I am not from around here. I was looking up information on the choptank river festival and this was at the top of the search results page. Just thought I would let you guys know. - Thanks
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law_girl428
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 05:19 pm |
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Fill a room with 300 people who have assisted, been on the board, volunteered or been on the payroll at Sailwinds.
Then, ask for a show of hands from those 300 who have had an issue with at least one of the three names that keep popping up. Whether these issues revolve around disrespect, mis-management, inappropriate behavior, rants and raves, or secret agendas makes no difference. It is, what it is. I would bet that the majority of hands would go up. Probably at least 75%.
With these statistics, it's not too hard to see what the problem is...and that is not rocket science. In order to be successful, you must have strong leadership. The current scenario speaks for itself.
The funny thing to me is that you have lots of people continuously complaining about similar experiences...it can't be a pure coincidence!
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mustang1
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 03:52 pm |
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Chris Abbott wrote: I have even waved to you on the road and you turn your head when I know you see me.
It must be those SUNGLASSES!!!!!
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 03:44 pm |
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grady wilson jr wrote: Grady Wrote
When you name names then it gets personal and so far all I have read on here is how bad me the mayor and Troy Hill have run sail winds in the ground. I HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING ON HERE ABOUT WHAT YOU DID OR DIDN'T DO WHILE YOU WERE AT SAIL WINDS OTHER THAN STARTED TICKET MASTER BUT I AM THE ONE SLINGING MUD.I would never respond to some ones opinion about how bad sail winds is or how bad it is being run but when you put names to that then it becomes personal. You know what you are doing when it comes to the entertainment aspect you will be fine and with your help sail winds will be a place for everyone in the area to enjoy.If I instigated trouble that would mean I would be doing harm to Carlton and thats not going to happen its hard enough trying to operate sail winds as it is, let alone another person added to the list that all they have is bad things to say . I have never blamed or said our failures were some one else fault but there I am slinging mud.The truth is you said you would like to be a part of sail winds again but you would not do it if me, the mayor, and Troy Hill were involved I am trying to make a wish of yours come true and I am not even getting a thank you.
Stating an opinion is not a personal attack. Trust me Grady if I wanted to attack you personally I would and could but such attacks are unwarranted and accomplish nothing. I even offered my phone number so we could discuss this matter privately but you seem to want to make some sort of grandstand out of this whole thing. My post was my opinion based on observations made by me. If you took it personal then that's your problem. Personally I have no animosity toward you, Troy or the Mayor even though if I did have issues with the Mayor they would be warranted! I saw Troy at a Council meeting a few weeks ago and said Hi to him like I always do. Even offered him a seat. I have even waved to you on the road and you turn your head when I know you see me. You are the one that took business related matters personal. Not me.
As for your last comment about making my wish come true I'll tell you what. When this is over Wednesday night and if I am appointed to the Board and you guys tender your resignation I will not only thank you but I'll shake your hand. Fair enough?
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 03:23 pm |
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Chris Abbott wrote: I don't call my statements about what I experienced as personal attacks. I refer to them more as reporting my observations. My criticisms were not personal. They are based on what I perceived both during my time there and observations since then. For some reason Grady has gone on a crusade for whatever purpose. If you remember I actually defended Sailwinds on the supposed secrecy issue. I had no intentions of asking anyone to leave merely that I wouldn't return to the board if they were still involved. This whole issue has been blown out of proportion by Grady to the point of ridiculousness. Plus he has done what he can to distort the truth, pass blame and make their failures someone else's fault.
I will be at the City Council meeting on Wednesday evening and if they do decide to step down and I am appointed by the City Council and Carlton Stanley then I will gladly step in and do what I can to help Sailwinds. I look forward to it. But I also understand that Grady will be doing what he can to instigate trouble and sling mud after July 8th. Thats what he does.
Chris Wrote
I think that with the right people in that building working together Sailwinds can be a major focal point in Cambridge and could bring in some great entertainment of all kinds. I would be more than happy to become involved with Sailwinds again and have relayed these wishes to the President of the Board Carlton Stanley. But I will NOT have anything to do with Sailwinds as long as Grady Wilson, Troy Hill and Mayor Rippons are involved. It's just not worth the aggravation.
Grady Wrote
When you name names then it gets personal and so far all I have read on here is how bad me the mayor and Troy Hill have run sail winds in the ground. I HAVE NOT SAID ANYTHING ON HERE ABOUT WHAT YOU DID OR DIDN'T DO WHILE YOU WERE AT SAIL WINDS OTHER THAN STARTED TICKET MASTER BUT I AM THE ONE SLINGING MUD.I would never respond to some ones opinion about how bad sail winds is or how bad it is being run but when you put names to that then it becomes personal. You know what you are doing when it comes to the entertainment aspect you will be fine and with your help sail winds will be a place for everyone in the area to enjoy.If I instigated trouble that would mean I would be doing harm to Carlton and thats not going to happen its hard enough trying to operate sail winds as it is, let alone another person added to the list that all they have is bad things to say . I have never blamed or said our failures were some one else fault but there I am slinging mud.The truth is you said you would like to be a part of sail winds again but you would not do it if me, the mayor, and Troy Hill were involved I am trying to make a wish of yours come true and I am not even getting a thank you.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 02:41 pm |
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MacMom wrote: Oh, for crying out loud– this is like a couple of pre-teen girls passing notes back and forth in middle school study hall. Sailwinds could be so valuable to our community. It deserves better.
Mac...your right. The problem is that there have been many people with the same opinion and position such as yours, who have stood up and volunteered their time and/or given financial support only to be treated poorly. Sailwinds could be valuable, but those who are "in charge" need to be willing to allow other insight and suggestions, they MUST treat volunteers with respect and gratitude, and they should present themselves professionally. Unfortunately, these issues have not been resolved thus far and continue to give people a bad impression.
My opinion here is that we have a prime example of some who are unwilling to admit that they may not always be right, that there may be better solutions or that there may be a better person for a job.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 02:17 pm |
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I don't call my statements about what I experienced as personal attacks. I refer to them more as reporting my observations. My criticisms were not personal. They are based on what I perceived both during my time there and observations since then. For some reason Grady has gone on a crusade for whatever purpose. If you remember I actually defended Sailwinds on the supposed secrecy issue. I had no intentions of asking anyone to leave merely that I wouldn't return to the board if they were still involved. This whole issue has been blown out of proportion by Grady to the point of ridiculousness. Plus he has done what he can to distort the truth, pass blame and make their failures someone else's fault.
I will be at the City Council meeting on Wednesday evening and if they do decide to step down and I am appointed by the City Council and Carlton Stanley then I will gladly step in and do what I can to help Sailwinds. I look forward to it. But I also understand that Grady will be doing what he can to instigate trouble and sling mud after July 8th. Thats what he does.
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 01:47 pm |
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| I have not made any personal attacks towards Sailwinds.... I think the place would be wonderful for the community if there were not so many secrets or so much goin on behind closed doors. Grady you seem to forget that I have been there and done that, and I know your game. Don't act so innocent..... Back in day sailwinds was one of my favorite places to be....you seem to forget all of the countless unpaid hours that I worked there. You also seem to forget what my family has put into sailwinds as well. I am not here to argue with you, but you must admit not many of your words can be trusted, you have proved that.... and you can not deny that. However you are not the only one at Sailwinds that has a bad rep...so don't think that I am singling you out. I could go on and on and on.....but KARMA always comes back on people, and it sounds like it has already come back on you. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY! Good luck buddy you are going to need it! DEBATE OVER!
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 12:59 pm |
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Oh, for crying out loud– this is like a couple of pre-teen girls passing notes back and forth in middle school study hall. Sailwinds could be so valuable to our community. It deserves better.
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