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...funny, two different law enforcement investigations in two different counties have found enough evidence to charge him with similar crimes. cbothsides, he may be found 'not guilty' in this case, but either way he's always getting into these positions, in different places, with different places.
Only one common factor here. Him. (Edit:Oh yeah, two: Him, and teenage girls.)
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| God, Mr. Perry, and the female involved know the truth the rest of you are only guessing.
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| Please keep everyone up to date on whats happening.
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| A preliminary hearing is set in the case for 11 July. At a preliminary hearing the state presents evidence to a district court judge to show that it has sufficient evidence of a crime or crimes cupable to the defendant to bind the defendant over for trial in the Circuit Court.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 07:03 pm |
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once MAY have been a mistake (mistaken identity, false accusations, etc.) but more than ONCE is not acceptable!
AND--judging from some of the posts on here (someone who has former connections with this person--my heart goes out to you and your child by the way) there seems to be a shady history with this ex-officer!
protect and serve just doesnt mean what it used to anymore!
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| I was just getting to reply about this same thing...that's crazy!!! The police were pressured & pressured hard to arrest someone in the Bloodsworth case!!!!! I said the minute I heard about that that he was innocent...there was just no way ...the 2 cases cannot be compared.....Kurt never was accused or stood trial for murder or rape....he just "looked " like someone else.Mr.Perry has been in this position before which is just alittle too convienant!!!!
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cbothsides wrote: Unless you are God, Mr. Perry or the female involved you don't know what happened if anything and you are jumping to conclusions too fast. Why not wait and hang him high if he's found guilty. This is Suppose to be a country with a fair court system. And if you have any doubt what a 13 - 15 year old female can do and plot why not visit your local juvenile detention unit. 13- 15 year olds do lie!
Thinking you must be Perrys defense lawyer.LOL Or maybe the defense lawyer for all those nasty boys in juvenile court that are there for 3rd and 4th degree sex offenses.(that get off with a slap on the wrist) And when you get the female VICTIMS up on the stand you have the nerve to rip them to pieces til they are raw.
There may be a few girls that "plot". But, by far, this is happening to many young girls who are telling the truth.
I bet Perry was known in school for being a player. Smooth with ladies. Wonder if he "hitted on" a few that didn't want to be. That was the 80's. Not a whole lot would have been said if a girl reported him to the office. Thats the start of a sex offender cycle.
Am I judging him already? Lets just say I am sick and tried of the cycle.
Just think: Somewhere, right now, there is a girl who is forever going to be affected by the hands of a sex offender.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 05:29 pm |
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cbothsides wrote: How can you be sure, look at Kurt Bloodsworth and the crimes he was found guilty of. All you have is to go on is what the news tells you, unless you were there.
I have been very silent while reading about Perry and what has been said on the forum.
Without a doubt what he (Perry) has done makes me sick. Knowing he got away with it once makes me sicker! Thinking he might again makes me MAD!!
In NO way can this monster be compared to Kurt Bloodsworth. If you know anything at all about his case (murder,ect.) you would know that back then(his case was a long time ago) the State was being squeezed for someone to pin it on. They overlooked evidence and in the end found the wrong guy guilty. Way to go Kurt for never giving up!!
It is very clear that Perry has a problem (sexually) with young girls. Repeat behavior.... I don't think 2 girls who do not even know each, from different counties, decided to make up lies on this pervert.
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| 4thekids & farmer - I'd be going too!!!! was'nt his trial in the Cambridge incident a hung jury? just because they couod not find 12 people who could find him innocent or guilty,does not mean he is innocent.I find it very unlikely that he's innocent ,this situation seems to be following him. a case of "bad luck"? I doubt it.like I said before,This was hard for me to fathom...I've known him almost my entire life....do I believe he's guilty.... yes .even if the sex was consentual .... she is underage,he is a Police Officer,an enforcer of the law,someone who swears to serve & protect.it seems the only thing he served was himself. just my opinion.
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Nothing that you have stated about Mr Perry makes the victim any less believeable. I learned long ago to give the VICTIM the benefit of the doubt.
Lets put the shoe on the other foot, IF the teenager in this case were your daughter, who would you be inclined to believe?would you be so inclined to defend the alleged perp?
Let me ad that my career also gave me a pretty good feel for being able to divide probable fact from probable BS when it comes to criminal cases. God knows I had enough dealings with crooks, victims and witnesses to be able to make fairly educated guesses about how crimes would play out. I think that after all is said and done in this case, whether or not there is a conviction it will be pretty obvious that the allegations were not without a factual foundation.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 03:57 am |
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He was a model citizen, worked hard, served in the USMC, and so far as I know had never been in trouble with the law. I did not believe him capable of the horrible crimes he was charged with.
With the exception of Mr. Perry was in the US army sounds about the same, Mr. Perry was not found guilty in the proir trail there for it cannot be used against him in this trail. Mr. Perry has is a hard worker, and APPEARS to be a model citizen.
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| I knew Kurt well personally prior to the murder. He was a model citizen, worked hard, served in the USMC, and so far as I know had never been in trouble with the law. I did not believe him capable of the horrible crimes he was charged with. The crime sickened me, that anyone could so grossly abuse a little innocent child. During the trial I was priviliged to get information on what was going on in court (from spectators at the trial) that indicated to me that the wrong guy was being tried. I was glad that he was finally exonerated, gladder still that the actual killer was caught. With that said, if I had been asked to throw the switch on Kurt at his execution, had he been the actual killer, I would have done so, and been secure in the beliefe that the child had had justice done for her.
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 03:24 am |
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| How can you be sure, look at Kurt Bloodsworth and the crimes he was found guilty of. All you have is to go on is what the news tells you, unless you were there.
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| You miss my point. ANYONE who is a victim of a crime deserves to be believed, to be helped and to have assistance thru the process of the investigation and trial. ( Unless there is proof positive that they are fabricating the case. ) They, the victim, are the injured party. Here we have a case involving a young girl who between the ages of 13 and 15 was allegedly victimized in a gross way by an adult male. Her life may well have been ruined by criminal action by another person, who should have D##N well known better. As a career cop and as a father I chose to side with the victim. In the sex crime cases I handled one of the things I learned was the victim had to be treated as a victim and not a suspect. The days of sex crime victims being accused of 'asking for it' or anything like that are thankfully long gone. To put it another way, even a prostitute has a right to chose her customers.
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Speaking as someone who works with the victims, I find your stance outrageous. The majority of victims are so scared to speak of the abuse because of people that would rather believe the accused rather than the victim. The scars that these monsters leave on these kids takes years to deal with. Not only does it affect the actual victim, it affects their family. Parents often dont know how to talk to a child of such crimes to get them the help they so desperately need. Often these kids act out, and just stop caring. Parents tend to be lost when this happens. As adults we have the responsibility to help the victims, not the accused. Please remember that an adolescent doesnt have the thought process that adults do. We owe it to these kids to keep monsters that abuse (whether it be physically, mentally, sexually, ect...) away from them.
As a mother of two, if a person with the background such as Perry moved in my neighborhood, I would fear for the safety of my kids.
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| Yes, I would question them, victim's description are not always acute, and as a former service station employee I saw approx 100 to 200 people a night and after a few hours they all blurred together.
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Somehow I cannot bring myself to believe that one man can be falsely accused by 2 different juvenile females in two different jurisdictions over a 2 yr+ period of similar crimes. If I were the defendant in these cases, after the first bogus accusation, I would have been wanting to see some real good proof of age from ANY female with whom I was considering an affair. Its just more proof of the old saw" when the p---- stands up, the brains get buried in the ground."
While the defendant is legally entitled to the presumption of innocence, my concern lies with the victim. She has been the victim of an alleged sex crime and deserves to be treated as a victim until or unless it is proven that there was no molestation. I see this as a big problem in our society today, far too many people are more concerned with the perp than are concerned with the victim. If the defendant in this case had been arrested for sticking up a gas station at gun point would folks even consider questioning the veracity of the clerk who was stuck up?
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| Unless you are God, Mr. Perry or the female involved you don't know what happened if anything and you are jumping to conclusions too fast. Why not wait and hang him high if he's found guilty. This is Suppose to be a country with a fair court system. And if you have any doubt what a 13 - 15 year old female can do and plot why not visit your local juvenile detention unit. 13- 15 year olds do lie!
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| I wonder where the young woman from here in Cambridge is now. I am sure many years ago shame , fear , and intimidation was a factor in her not wanting to cooperate. Also being so young I am sure she thought she was in LOVE.... Double jeopardy should not apply, being he(Mr. Perry) was not convicted here. I am almost sure the statute of limitations have not lapsed. The investigators need to talk to her to see if any similarities apply. The prosecutor may be able to use this young woman here for the sentencing phase if the case in Princess Anne gets that far.
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4thekids wrote: If it was my daughter, he wouldn't be going to trial! If it was one of mine he wouldn't either. But I guess I would be.
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| If it was my daughter, he wouldn't be going to trial!
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Posted: Thu Jun 19th, 2008 09:53 pm |
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My previous post may have sounded like I was just talking about 15 year old females but I mean that for BOTH genders 15 YO boys most def don't know any better either. Bottom line a 40 whatever yearold police officer should be protecting those children not having SEX with them!!!!! 
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DorCouNtyGirL wrote: blahdidy blahdidy blllaaaahhh
Sorry. You lost me there.
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| Anyone of normal mental capacity who has reached the age of 41 should have a good sense of right and wrong. Society generally does not place such expectations on a 15 yr old of either gender. While the presumption of innocence still applies to the defendant, this ain't his first rodeo. One would think after a close brush with prison in the last case he should know better. My understanding is that the state lost the earlier case because the victim did not want to testify against him.
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| Are you kidding me!?!? A 15 year old couldn't possibly have known what she was doing?!? A grown a$$ man should know better than to even remotely think of even touching a 15 year old female unless it was to maybe walk her across the street!!! What are you thinking...I am well aware that everyone is entitled to their opinion and I know you have yours in this case, I am also aware he has not been found guilty yet blahdidy blahdidy blllaaaahhh it doesn't matter you still can not be thinking rationally to blame it on a 15 year old, makes me wonder what kind of person you are!!!!
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| Last time I checked 15 is still a minor and it started when she was 13!! So it doesn't really matter that it took 2 years for her to say anything IMO, maybe she just finally got up the nerve. Anyway you look at it, he was in the wrong!
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| That's true: poor man. The other side of the story could be that he keeps finding himself the target of irrational and sexual 15-year-olds! What's a police officer to do? Sigh.
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| We are all aware of the emotions of a 15 year old female has anyone thought to question her in this matter? Why does it take 2 years for her to come forward and why now? What promted her to do it and what is her mental status and her feelings towards Mr. Perry? The public is quick to hang Mr. Perry out to dry but shouldn't someone stop and question the other side of this story also?
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You'd think he would have learned his lesson, but apparently, he likes them young. Allegedly.
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This is merely "my two cents" on the topic. Why on earth would someone (namely, the officer in this forum) place themselves in that kind of situation (whether the accusations are true or not) if they "dodged one bullet" only a few years prior? He was fortunate to get a second chance at being a Law Enforcement Officer, but to have the same type of charges re-surface five years later?
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| Hung jury in not a guilty ruling. Your only looking at 1 side and there is always three sides to every story. Unless your God, Mr. Perry or the underage female you don't know what happened only what the news or the public tell you.
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| thank you cc & Amen!!!!!
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There was a hung jury on the allegations here in Cambridge, he was not found innocent either. cbothsides wrote: For those of you that don't know this let me inform you. Mr Perry HAS NOt been found guilty yet! He was not found guilty before and has not been found guilty yet because he has not been to trail.
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| For those of you that don't know this let me inform you. Mr Perry HAS NOt been found guilty yet! He was not found guilty before and has not been found guilty yet because he has not been to trail.
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| Most of us appreciate it CC
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| There are not as you say a' lot of crooked/sick cops out there'. You only hear about the bad ones. For every bad apple in blue there is a multitude of honest decent boys and girls who do the job every day and nite without public recognition. I've stood at attention at far too many funerals for by brothers and sisters who laid down their life in defense of their fellow citizens to tar all officers with the brush of dishonesty While you are lying safe in your bed at night cops all over the country are putting their lives on the line to keep you and yours safe.
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| just another crooked /sick cop. there's allot of them out there and it's just not the cops some of the gov. too. they should throw this guy in jail wright there with the people he help get there.
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I said I was from the wrong side of the tracks(east side) yet I don't try to insult no one intently, I can battle with words very well having lived in the same place for over 42 yrs.(very bad street) and have never slandered anyone, I don't think myself perfect. You made it everyone business by writing it, you should have PM a person if you want to direct something at someone specifiably.
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The question was not to you and what business of it was yours? THIS IS AMERICA AND I AM EXPRESSING MY THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS FREELY... Nor am I associated with the CPD and if the shoe fits wear it and that goes for YOU too. It does not matter what side of the tracks you are from?!
By the way CRIMECRUNCHER, I am sure you are and have been commended for serving the county as an officer for twenty five years.
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| No, I WAS an officer. I retired in the late 1990s. What has happened is that in the last 10 years the city has gotten a lot more generous with its payroll. I remember one year that my entire pay raise was eaten up by increases in property tax, health insurance and water bill hikes. Another year the raise was so small that were it not for Pres Reagan's tax cuts I would have taken home less money. I worked with a guy who got promoted and actually took home less after the promotion. When it came to paying city employees, Oz Pritchett, Tony robbins(mayors) and Turk Marshall(city council) were tighter than a crabs butt, and thats water tight.
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| Hey come on now, What business is it of anyone here of what anyones race, income,or whom their families members are ? 25yrs at any one place of employment is commendable ! This is America we are free to express our thoughts and feelings. I am not in any manner associated with the CPD. Come and try to insult me. I come from the wrong side of the tracks..
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| With your 25 years of seniority, are you implying that you are an officer??? If you have all these years in,- then maybe your overall duties and performance are not as good as the young rookies coming on or others that may be more qualified than you are.!!!
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| NO to all questions. I never got a raise even close to the ones that officers have gotten in the last 10 yrs or so, matter of fact a brand new rookie gets a check now that is about the size of my last pay check including 25 yrs of seniority. I'm a Teutonic-American and not kin nor even a constituent as I live in a different ward. Last edited on Thu Jun 19th, 2008 01:05 am by CRIMECRUNCHER
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| CrimeCruncher, Why so many negative comments? Did you get a big raise when the police department recieved an increase in pay? Are You of COLOR or one of her FAMILY members??? Last edited on Thu Jun 19th, 2008 01:01 am by U would like to know...?
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| Perry left CPD before the trial on the charges in Dorchester Co. He was not convicted of anything, thus was not precluded from police employment or he would not have been hired in Chrisfield or UMES. I do think though that MOST PDs would not have hired him anyhow owing to the nature of the charges here. Unfortunately, nationwide , many PDs have hired unsuitable people in an effort to fill quotas and or just have enough officers on the street. Baltimore City is a fine example, look how many of their officers have faced major criminal charges over the past couple of years. I miss the old days, when there was much more descretion given to departments to not hire folks they thought unsuitable. I remember one instance here where a candidate was dumb enough to smoke weed a day or two before a polygraph and admitted it to the examiner. Used to be that ANY drug use was a no no for anyone trying to get on the job, now its only certain drugs that are a bar to hiring(depending on the agency) Last edited on Wed Jun 18th, 2008 10:56 pm by CRIMECRUNCHER
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thinkfirst wrote: I think the Maryland Court site is pretty good... as is the sex Offender site. What's bad is when a gossip or someone with an agenda uses the information to hurt someone else. This police officer apparently abused a girl at CSD. My daughters attended then, and I don't remember it. Was it in the paper, and common knowledge? How did he end up at UMES? He could have worked anywhere else, but chose to work where young people are. It seems that ANYONE in a position that brings them around children should be under extra scrutiny- from the news stories we seem to hear all the time it seems predators like to work near their prey. Those tolerant of hiring predators, IMO, should be fired. They shouldn't be allowed to circulate through the system from job to job. It's such a terrible thing to tolerate.
Well the sad part is after his first arrest a Dorchester County Jury didnt convict him so he was free to continue to work as a police Officer. You cant punish someone who is not found guilty.
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| I think the Maryland Court site is pretty good... as is the sex Offender site. What's bad is when a gossip or someone with an agenda uses the information to hurt someone else. This police officer apparently abused a girl at CSD. My daughters attended then, and I don't remember it. Was it in the paper, and common knowledge? How did he end up at UMES? He could have worked anywhere else, but chose to work where young people are. It seems that ANYONE in a position that brings them around children should be under extra scrutiny- from the news stories we seem to hear all the time it seems predators like to work near their prey. Those tolerant of hiring predators, IMO, should be fired. They shouldn't be allowed to circulate through the system from job to job. It's such a terrible thing to tolerate.
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Let me say right off the bat that I detest a crooked cop. I took a lot of pride in being honest and not allowing myself to get involved in corruption. That said, had I had any evidence of Perry's alleged activities during the time we worked together, I would have felt compelled to drop a dime to the proper people within the department. Had there been a proveable case there is no doubt in my mind that the admin, then or now would have done the right thing. Part of the problem is that not all things that are wrong are illegal; example, an officer having an affair on duty with a person of the opposite sex who is an adult, its against the rules but it violates no law. I do know of officers and former officers who got in difficulty for such acts, but could not be criminaly charged. Any sanctions imposed against them were departmental in nature and not subject to publication. So don't think that just because an officer isn't fired that something has not been done in a given case.
With regard to Hi Octane and the other members of the council, many of them are and or have been a pain in the posterior. Hi Octane thinks her butt weighs a ton and that when she calls her problems should take priority over regular citizens. Brooks has her own agenda, she is more interested in the color of city employees than their character and ability. She is also a big practitioner of nepotism, ie she looks out for her family and close friends ahead of her constituents
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copspouse wrote: By the way you said you use to work there you would no that officers there can't speak out because of being threaten about the lost of their jobs. You dare not speak against cpd.
By the way Police Officers cant be fired for speaking out we are protected by the Law Enforcement Officers Bill of Rights. After your off Probation its very hard to fire a police officer unless he is convicted of a crime.
I also know that if an Officer was to speak out about an officer breaking the law like you claim the admin at CPD would not fire the officer for letting them know.
If your husband was caught up with the officer sleeping with young girls like you claim and didnt say anything he should be arrested and is just a guilty as the officer that you claim was doing it.
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