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| Another thing I like about Fox, when it comes down to sensitive issues, they will have "guest" commentators, one right, one left do a short report with each one's own "spin." (cause either way, both do it to an extent). The Fox people more or less intermittently modrate the offerings. They are the only news source I have seen that will present it so that you can form your own oppinion, whatever that may be.
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About Fox news.........
My son was deployed to Afghanistan. One morning only a couple months after US troops were there, I turned on the Today show to get some info on the troops.
The lead "Tease" for a story was about some actor or singer (Can't remember who) getting a belly button ring!! Then- after the first commercial, a little something about the troops-
That day I went and got a satellite dish!
Say what you want about them, right or left, up or down, if you have a family member in the military with boots on the ground- the only thing you will hear about them (Unless it is VERY VERY negative) is on Fox.
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| I watch the ABC nightly news and read the Balto Sun. THEN I watch Fox and geenerally get a much straighter story from them without the editorializing that one gets from the liberal media. If the liberal media wants to broadcast their liberal bilge and lable it opinion fine, thats their right but don't couch opinions in terms of news. Same with the Washington Compost and the rest of the print media, opinion belongs on the editorial page, not stuck in the middle of a news story. Thats one big reason I like O'Rielly, he plainly labels his opinion as analysys, and does't try to disguise it as news.
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Gordy wrote: You are entitled to your opinion but thank goodness it is only shared by about 25% of the American population.
Bush's approval ratings are below 30 percent... the lowest percentage out there are those who still support him.
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Someone on another thread mentioned (proudly) that they only watch FOX News and read the Weekly Standard -- anything that is safe for their already preconceived notions, basically. I have known enough journalists -- not prime-time T.V. anchors making millions, but hard-working, average- to usually low-pay writers working anywhere from local small-town papers to big-city dailes to know there is no grand, organizaed, hidden conspiracy there.
What is the point in reading only that which corroborates what you already believe? I always thought it was best to read (and often appreciate) all kinds of sources. I like to grab a Wall St. Journal when I can, I love the Economist, Washington Post, etc. It has never been the role of journalism to play a happy, patriotic drum -- its most important role was that of a thorn in the side of power, the people's check.
I laugh at the notion of a "liberal media" when it comes to the national press, however. Big cable outlets and most national print media are owned by massive corporations whose principal focus is profit. Hardly a liberal, radical idea there... Status quo is more like it.
And for much of its tenure, the Bush Administration has had the good fortune of a complacent, lazy press more afraid of losing its access to press conferences that is has been interested in true investigation.
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cambridgehighalum wrote: AuntEmile wrote: There's a great article on the front page of today's Washington Post for anyone who's interested about the persistent rumors about Obama that continue to circulate on the internet and through word of mouth. Worth reading for those of you who continue to post all that wackiness about his being the Antichrist, a radical Muslim, a flag-hater and whatever else.
...saw it, didn't read it because already knew the general premise and tone of the article. Like someone already stated, the Post, Sun and many others are just shrills for Obama.
I trust the Washington Post and the news they author. I'm more interested in reading news that may be relevant than trying to hold on to a slanted view.
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AuntEmile wrote: There's a great article on the front page of today's Washington Post for anyone who's interested about the persistent rumors about Obama that continue to circulate on the internet and through word of mouth. Worth reading for those of you who continue to post all that wackiness about his being the Antichrist, a radical Muslim, a flag-hater and whatever else.
...saw it, didn't read it because already knew the general premise and tone of the article. Like someone already stated, the Post, Sun and many others are just shrills for Obama.
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motherof4 wrote: I am amazed at how many people on here resort to name calling and childish behavior. Aren't we all supposed to be adults here? If you are choosing to vote for McCain, so be it, but deferring to insults is absurd. Luckily we live in a country where we are free to choose- choose our leader, our words, and even our choices themselves. I respect everyone's opinions, however I do not respect when someone crosses a line and tries to "bully" people who do not share their views. It really shows the intelligence level that some people are working with when they use such tactics.
Welcome to Newszap. This is "just how it is". Most people here cannot agree to disagree.
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Another reason to keep Osama out of the White House, his ideas about National Defense
http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/02/27/obama-plans-to-disarm-america/
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The Washington Post along with other major news organizations like NBC and Newsweek have been in the tank for the dem nominee for months. I am suspicious of anything they have to say about politics and government as they have been leaning to the left for as long as I can remember. Even my old standby the Baltimore Sun displays a serious liberal bias in many of its editorials as well as its news articles.
The voting public is the victim of the greatest insult I have seen in 45 yrs of watching politics. Every voter should be insulted that the dems have tried to foist off a candidate who has no established credentials in leadership, no history of sponsoring legislation, and only 2 yrs of experience in the US Senate. This is a critical time in the history of the U.S., and the best that the dems can do is offer a rookie politician for the most important job in the world?
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I have never insulted Obama, I have simply given rational reasons why I believe he would be wrong for this country.
I never said he is a Muslim, BUT he does have a Muslim background through both his father and his stepfather. He did go to a Muslim school in Africa and he did state in his own words, he would stand firm with the Muslims in a conflict.
My major problems with Obama are his inexperience, his naive ideas on foreign policy AND his extreme leftist views and votes. Those are legitimate concerns and should worry anyone who is considering voting for him.
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Thanks, I'll be sure to read it...
I am amazed at how many people on here resort to name calling and childish behavior. Aren't we all suppsed to be adults here? If you are choosing to vote for McCain, so be it, but deferring to insults is absurd. Luckily we live in a country where we are free to choose- choose our leader, our words, and even our choices themselves. I respect everyone's opinions, however I do not repsect when someone crosses a line and tries to "bully" people who do not share their views. It really shows the intelligence level that some people are working with when they use such tactics.
To those of you truly here for a debate and toggle of the minds, thank you. I enjoy hearing different views and contrasting them to my own. That is what is so great about this forum, the real debates and conversations going on.
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There's a great article on the front page of today's Washington Post for anyone who's interested about the persistent rumors about Obama that continue to circulate on the internet and through word of mouth. Worth reading for those of you who continue to post all that wackiness about his being the Antichrist, a radical Muslim, a flag-hater and whatever else.
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obama_mama_08 wrote: cambridgehighalum wrote: eeea wrote: I feel the same way about the re-re-publicans.
Many people can't stand stuff like this:
the Democratic Party has evidently banned fried food for its upcoming National Convention, in an effort to be more 'green'. Check it out.
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_9709107
Go Green!
To paraphrase Obama himself, "Typical ignorant person."
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| Totally Laugh Out Loud!
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| It is a blog, but based on an actual video of Obama himself. You know that I assume...
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homer wrote: This is an another reason NOT TO VOTE FOR OBMA !!!
http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/02/27/obama-plans-to-disarm-america/
aaah, yes. a blog. nice...
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cambridgehighalum wrote: eeea wrote: I feel the same way about the re-re-publicans.
Many people can't stand stuff like this:
the Democratic Party has evidently banned fried food for its upcoming National Convention, in an effort to be more 'green'. Check it out.
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_9709107
Go Green!
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scrapple wrote: Wait... kiss whose ass goodbye? Obama's?
Snapple,
That might be true -- only if you and Obama had some type of close, personal relationship.
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| Wait... kiss whose ass goodbye? Obama's?
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Truth is....and I hate to be so crass...BUT if Obama is elected...kiss your ass goodbye
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Here are a bunch more reasons not to vote for Obama, provided by Dick Morris:
Consider his proposals:
• In effect, he would legislate a 60 percent tax bracket for upper-income Americans, killing all initiative and innovation. He’d raise the top bracket to 40 percent. He’d apply FICA taxes to all income, not just that under $100,000 as at present. So add 40 percent plus FICA’s 12.5 percent plus Medicare’s 2 percent plus state and local taxes averaging, after deduction, at 5-6 percent, and you have a 60 percent bracket.
• He would double the capital gains tax, saddling the 50 percent of Americans who own stock with dramatically higher taxes.
• He’d double the dividend tax, hitting elderly coupon-clippers now retired and depending on fixed incomes.
• He wants to cover 12 million illegal immigrants with federally subsidized health insurance, dramatically driving up costs and forcing federal rationing of healthcare. As in the U.K. and Canada, you will not be permitted certain medical procedures if the bureaucrats decide you are not worth it.
• He proposes requiring Homeland Security operatives to notify terror suspects that they are under investigation within seven days of starting the investigation
• He says that unless they can establish that there is “probable cause to believe that a certain individual is linked to a specific terrorist group,” Homeland Security cannot seize his documents and search his business. The current standard is only that the search be “relevant” to a terror investigation.
• In effect, he would legislate a 60 percent tax bracket for upper-income Americans, killing all initiative and innovation. He’d raise the top bracket to 40 percent. He’d apply FICA taxes to all income, not just that under $100,000 as at present. So add 40 percent plus FICA’s 12.5 percent plus Medicare’s 2 percent plus state and local taxes averaging, after deduction, at 5-6 percent, and you have a 60 percent bracket.
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This is an another reason NOT TO VOTE FOR OBMA !!!
http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/02/27/obama-plans-to-disarm-america/
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eeea wrote: I feel the same way about the re-re-publicans.
Many people can't stand stuff like this:
the Democratic Party has evidently banned fried food for its upcoming National Convention, in an effort to be more 'green'. Check it out.
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_9709107
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I feel the same way about the re-re-publicans.
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| Playing the race card every time someone comes out against Osama doesn't wash. From the beginning of this election cycle, I had no intention of voting for anyone the dumocrats nominated. Race nor gender nor ethnnicity mattered, I was determined to vote GOP because of what all the dums are, LIBERALS. I am sure that come Nov, there will be lots of other folks who vote GOP for the same reason.
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Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: obama_mama_08 wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: eeea wrote: 4thekids wrote: I am a Democrat and I will not Vote for Obama.
Is it a racism thing as apposed to what the candidate really has to offer to the United States??
Unfortunately, that is what i hear from ALOT of people...
I could not imagine who you talk to.
I talk to alot of OLDER people who were, unfortunatly, raised during the times of racism as most of us were. And living in today's world, most of us are very open about race. However, many are not. That is how they were taught, and that is how they will teach.
-thank you very much-
Well then -- you should also know not to repeat such ignorance and contradict those that say these things to stop this cycle of teaching.
Thank you- OBAMA MAMA 08! that was my point...
and to JIMMY RAY TRUMP:
you know very well that by stating my opinion about this on NEWSZAP of all places is going to carry on the "cycle of teaching." Did it change your mind???
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obama_mama_08 wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: eeea wrote: 4thekids wrote: I am a Democrat and I will not Vote for Obama.
Is it a racism thing as apposed to what the candidate really has to offer to the United States??
Unfortunately, that is what i hear from ALOT of people...
I could not imagine who you talk to.
I talk to alot of OLDER people who were, unfortunaty, raised during the times of racism as most of us were. And living in today's world, most of us are very open about race. However, many are not. That is how they were taught, and that is how they will teach.
-thank you very much-
Well then -- you should also know not to repeat such ignorance and contradict those that say these things to stop this cycle of teaching.
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Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: eeea wrote: 4thekids wrote: I am a Democrat and I will not Vote for Obama.
Is it a racism thing as apposed to what the candidate really has to offer to the United States??
Unfortunately, that is what i hear from ALOT of people...
I could not imagine who you talk to.
I talk to alot of OLDER people who were, unfortunately, raised during the times of racism as most of us were. And living in today's world, most of us are very open about race. However, many are not. That is how they were taught, and that is how they will teach.
-thank you very much-
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eeea wrote: 4thekids wrote: I am a Democrat and I will not Vote for Obama.
Is it a racism thing as apposed to what the candidate really has to offer to the United States??
Unfortunately, that is what i hear from ALOT of people...
I could not imagine who you talk to.
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Corn Nugget wrote: I have a bunch and gave all my early ones to my sons, as the protocal calls for in this area. But, one of them works on a B-! bomber, Air Force. A little bigger than I can hand down. Answer the question.
Your lunacy should be kept close to the vest.
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yesteryear wrote: Thanks for laying that out there, thats at least a dozen and a half good reasons to vote for him. With that kind of experience when you put obama next to him you can still see his mama's breast milk dripping off his chin.
I just posted something in the "Democratic 'Stuff'" by accident regarding this. The "experience myth" is what they call it. Throughout U.S. history, there has been little correlation between a candidate's "experience" and the merits of his presidency. Means very little in the long run.
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| Do you? Your turn. I have a bunch and gave all my early ones to my sons, as the protocal calls for in this area. But, one of them works on a B-! bomber, Air Force. A little bigger than I can hand down. Answer the question.
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Corn Nugget wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: Corn Nugget wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote:
It will assist w/ keeping weapons out of the hands of PSYCHOS.
Do you have any guns Jert? (phonetical pronunciation of JRT)
That is a private matter, since it would be used primarily for protection.
http://marylandshallissue.org/
Am thinking i have to change my thought on this........given you have them...........
Neugent,
You're doing just fine. I never said that I owned any guns???
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Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: Corn Nugget wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote:
It will assist w/ keeping weapons out of the hands of PSYCHOS.
Do you have any guns Jert? (phonetical pronunciation of JRT)
That is a private matter, since it would be used primarily for protection.
http://marylandshallissue.org/
Am thinking i have to change my thought on this........given you have them...........
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| Thanks for laying that out there, thats at least a dozen and a half good reasons to vote for him. With that kind of experience when you put obama next to him you can still see his mama's breast milk dripping off his chin.
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Muslims barred from picture at Obama event
http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/electionfever/archive/2008/06/19/muslim-women-removed-from-shot-at-obama-rally.aspx
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- http://www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/newsreleases/Read.aspx?Guid=f9d45af3-5c1e-4482-84f2-c9e7fa658e08
- Graduated U.S. Naval Academy, 1958
- Earned flight wings, Pensacola, Florida, 1960
- Deployed on aircraft carrier U.S.S. Enterprise in Caribbean during the Cuban Missile Crisis
- Served as Lieutenant Commander aboard aircraft carriers U.S.S. Forrestal and U.S.S. Orinsky in the Vietnam War, flying and leading combat air strikes over North Vietnam
- Shot down over Hanoi, October 26, 1967
- Served 5 ½ years as Prisoner of War, 1967-1973
- Attended National War College, 1973-1974
- Served as commanding officer of largest attack squadron in the U.S. Navy, 1976
- Served as U.S. Navy's chief liaison to the U.S. Senate, 1977-1981
- Retired a Captain, USN, 1981
- Elected to U.S. House of Representatives, 1982
- Elected to U.S. Senate, 1986
- Has served on Senate Armed Services Committee for 20 years, now senior Republican member of committee
- Played a leadership role in Congress in every major national security issue since the deployment of U.S. Marines to Beirut in 1983
- Chairman of the International Republican Institute
- Chairs an annual senior delegation to a NATO conference in Europe
- Has travelled extensively, knows and has worked with scores of world leaders
- Has written about, spoken and debated extensively on national security questions for two decades
wow...looks like McCain, a former POWMIA, is quite into the topic of war! I have a bad feeling that John McCain will be a Bush repeat; seeking revenge by using war-like tactics. However, i admire his pride for his country.
I sure hope he doesn't use it the wrong way.
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CRIMECRUNCHER wrote: They can have my guns, " when they pry them from my cold dead fingers!"
Now you know why a waiting period makes sense.
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Corn Nugget wrote: Jimmy Ray Trump wrote:
It will assist w/ keeping weapons out of the hands of PSYCHOS.
Do you have any guns Jert? (phonetical pronunciation of JRT)
That is a private matter, since it would be used primarily for protection.
http://marylandshallissue.org/
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Speaking of weapons,I hear the Cambridge City Council is trying to pass a law,reg whatever that it will become unlawful to discharge a BB gun within the city limits.
Whats next!
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Jimmy Ray Trump wrote:
It will assist w/ keeping weapons out of the hands of PSYCHOS.
Do you have any guns Jert? (phonetical pronunciation of JRT)
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Farmer wrote: Now, back to the thread subject, check this site with some of Obama's quotes. Some sound good, but some are down right scary. You decide.
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaQuotes.htm
This is all good stuff, but I believe it comes down to character, comfort and likeability, as discussed below:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/23/AR2008062301829.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 05:56 pm |
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Farmer wrote: The best of the best have argued it both ways and some of us still have "personal arsenals," which in my case is used for hunting, recreation and protection. And yes, I would be very resistant to handing them over to anyone. It's a different world today, I refuse to become a statistic because I lacked the ability to protect my home and family. Or my neighbors, if need be. No, you don't need an "arsenal" for this purpose. Excuse me for enjoying my hobbies; and excercising my constitutional right, as I see it.
This is a bit like killing an ant with an atomic bomb, unless you are gearing up for the next civil war.
Awaiting period is a good idea. It will assist w/ keeping weapons out of the hands of PSYCHOS.
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Farmer
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 05:45 pm |
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The 2nd amendment has been debated since the day it was penned.
Fact is, if it was NOT intended to allow private ownership of firearms, there would be no private ownership of firearms today. The best of the best have argued it both ways and some of us still have "personal arsenals," which in my case is used for hunting, recreation and protection. And yes, I would be very resistant to handing them over to anyone. It's a different world today, I refuse to become a statistic because I lacked the ability to protect my home and family. Or my neighbors, if need be. No, you don't need an "arsenal" for this purpose. Excuse me for enjoying my hobbies; and excercising my constitutional right, as I see it.
Now, back to the thread subject, check this site with some of Obama's quotes. Some sound good, but some are down right scary. You decide.
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaQuotes.htm
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 04:48 pm |
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Corn Nugget wrote: We have spoke on this before, but needs to be understood what it trully implies.
Yes, we get it. You do not want your personal arsenal taken away.
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