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| thinkfirst, in regards to that "frightful" trip to Elliotts, I have a few questions. You seem to blame your experience on cultural differences, which may, play a role since you grew up in a military family and exposed to many different lifestyles. Most of our county's rural areas are made up of family that have lived in these areas for generations as well as retirees that have found living away from city congestion and crime to be Utopia. Everyone knows their neighbors and their neighbor's neighbor. This is what some call "tight knit". To me, this is a blessing because these are the type of neighbors that look out for each other. True story, just happened yesterday. A neighbor had been told to watch over a widow's house because she was leaving her home vacant for a few weeks. Well, the neighbor "was watching the house" because she saw a pick-up pulled up to the front door and 2 men were taking something out of the house. Immediately, as she was heading over there to check it out, she asked her mother to watch out the window because she may run in to trouble and to call 911 if there was. Thank goodness it was a family member taking out the old air conditioner and replacing with a new. So we laugh about it now. The jest of the story is--a neighbor faithfully watched over her neighbor's house and was prepared to take action if need be. This is what having a sense of community is all about. Neighbor helping neighbor has a sense of security and I for one was raised with this value and feel a sense of comfort that most of my neighbors were instilled with the same value. Have no idea why you felt threatened. Could you explain what took place to make you feel scared? The "ole' timers as well as newcomers are all very friendly. Most times I go down, I meet travelers from near and far that are just taking in the scenery. Yesterday, 2 young men from Milford and Selbyville, DE had rode down on their motorcycles for a day trip. They were cooling off under the shade of the fire house pavilion. A waterman offered me to use his bathroom because he felt the porti-pottie at the creek may have been filthy. A group from Cambridge was visiting the island and a resident asked the owner of the "flea market" (for lack of a better name even though she sells some really nice things) to open her store because they wanted to look around. She opened the store immediately yet she had other plans for the day. Preteens walked with their basket to do some "chicken-neckin" on the one and only road to and fro. Another group of young children were at the creek letting their dog swim. Can't imagine what you were afraid of. Don't believe it to be the color of your skin (I don't know and it really doesn't matter to me). There is a wonderful black man from D.C. that has built his vacation home there. Often I see black people fishing or crabbing on the road down and on the island. When there is a dinner being served at the church, all the inbound residents are sure to get a platter as well as some of the local folks make sure those persons get at least one meal a day, every day. Now that I have described what this island is really about, I would like to hear more about your experience. My guess is that it is the same scenario that this thread and another popular thread has taken. Fear of the unknown is a stumbling block that prevents all colors and cultures from learning how to respect each other's values and beliefs. Next time you travel to unfamilar places, take time to stop and chat. You won't be sorry and you may even learn to "Love your neighbor as yourself". I will be awaiting your response as well as any other posters who may have experienced "unfriendly" areas of our county.
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| Again, as mentioned before a great Idea. Someone has to spearhead this endeavour. It also needs to have a forum leader, so the meeting does not get out of hand. Someone that both sides would respect! The meeting should be held on neutral ground, Library, Sailwinds, etc....IMO
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| I agree Farmer...let's do it.
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| This has been an incredible thread, exceeding all my expectations as far as responses. A special thanks to those of "color" who contributed when the perception was that this thread was for "whites only." Believe it or not, one of my intentions with the thread was to plant a seed to promote the possibility of a public meeting to continue the discussion and lay positive plans to address some of the posted issues. We keep hearing from politicians and other do-gooders (no offense intended) about how things have changed and are changing. Obviously, many don't agree much progress has been achieved. It appears there is interest in doing this and I hope a firm time and place is established soon. Let's do it!!
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chs71 wrote: For Corn Nugget: I was in that also. Mike Wingo was a leader, right?
Yes he was.
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Jimmy Ray Trump wrote: chs71 wrote: OK, I will get a lot of flack for this one, but one of my pet peeves is all of the Black separatist organizations. I believe these organizations just add fuel to thefire. If you substitute the word “white” for “black” in any on the list below, just what do you think would happen to the White organization and the people in it?
What would happen -- nothing. But, who in their right mind would join an organization of that name and type? I would never have any interest in joining any Arian Race or Nazi affiliated groups.
I for sure would never belong to such an organization. But what about a White Lawyers Association? Would you consider joining that?
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If I'm not mistaken, some Caucasians helped to get the NAACP started and were part of it.
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4Godncountry wrote: The NAACP has done more to hurt race relations than almost any other organization. I guess though, if you had not been allowed to join organizations for years, you would start your own too! It is all counter productive! And that is exactly the point I'm making. Thank you.
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| The NAACP has done more to hurt race relations than almost any other organization. I guess though, if you had not been allowed to join organizations for years, you would start your own too! It is all counter productive!
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pineknot wrote: chs71 wrote: OK, I will get a lot of flack for this one, but one of my pet peeves is all of the Black separatist organizations. I believe these organizations just add fuel to thefire. If you substitute the word “white” for “black” in any on the list below, just what do you think would happen to the White organization and the people in it? Don’t tell me it’s about history. This is now.
NOBLE – National Organization of Black Law Enforcement
The National Black MBA Association
National Black Prosecutors Association
National Black Graduate Student Association
National Black Republican Association
National Black Association of Engineers
National Association of Black Accountants (NABA)
And of course the NAACP.
chs71, Why not have these organizations. Seems like it would only inhance and help. These groups will have and do have people that are trying to get kids to move forward.Black or white. What's wrong with association's for the advantagement of Black future. This show's where a person/kids can move to.
I mean hasn't there been "The good ole boy "group a little to long in this country. Wasn't that all started by whites.
Yeah, I agree that it will enhance and help. But, enhance and help what is really the question here. And no, the groups are organized by Blacks, and for the benefit of Blacks, not Whites and Blacks. And you're making assumptions. My ancestors mostly came from Ireland and Scotland. They had nothing to do with what happened. Some of my other ancestors on my father's side were Native American. And, "good ole boys" sounds racist to me. And if not racist, then you are stereotyping, which can do just as much damage. Everything you've said just strengthens my argument.
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chs71 wrote: OK, I will get a lot of flack for this one, but one of my pet peeves is all of the Black separatist organizations. I believe these organizations just add fuel to thefire. If you substitute the word “white” for “black” in any on the list below, just what do you think would happen to the White organization and the people in it? Don’t tell me it’s about history. This is now.
NOBLE – National Organization of Black Law Enforcement
The National Black MBA Association
National Black Prosecutors Association
National Black Graduate Student Association
National Black Republican Association
National Black Association of Engineers
National Association of Black Accountants (NABA)
And of course the NAACP.
chs71, Why not have these organizations. Seems like it would only inhance and help. These groups will have and do have people that are trying to get kids to move forward.Black or white. What's wrong with association's for the advantagement of Black future. This show's where a person/kids can move to.
I mean hasn't there been "The good ole boy "group a little to long in this country. Wasn't that all started by whites.
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TF wrote ...
And Pete... FEAR???? WHY equate fear with race? TF, you must have missed my original comment on this. Quite understandable with others wanting to go off topic.
In response to the topic of thread, I wrote the following (see page 1)
I was not raised here, but in NJ, near NYC. Like I said, I haven't read this whole thread yet and maybe this has been answered. Would anyone say problems with another one's race begins with fear?
The reason I ask this is - and this is before any of us became born again Christians - my family, mainly of Polish German (other Eastern European groups) had a fear of others. It was across the board so to speak. We just did not say nigger, we said guinea (Italian) and a few other things which I can't recall now.
My sister recalls that when she was younger, mom had her in a stroller somewhre in downtown Jersey City. At some point, my sister loudly said, "Mommy, are we in guinea town yet?" Sis says mom made haste to get out of that area!
Frankly though, we were more afraid of African Americans. It was the 50's. I developed the impression that large or small groups of dark skinned people spelled trouble.
Now, IMO, racism usually (maybe not always) springs from fear, and I think that is true for all races. Now, here's an exception - sort of: when racism is passed from generation to generation. The sucessive generation migiht have more hate than fear. Nonetheless, IMO, it was rooted in fear.
As we can see, this can develop into a cycle. If some of color "Y" show hatred toward color "Z", then some of those "Z" develop fear and sometimes racism.
The answer, of course, is Christ in one's life, and, oftentimes, we don't completely accept the "cure" - as is true for other shortcomings.
Good discussion folks.
God bless,
Pete
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chs71 wrote: OK, I will get a lot of flack for this one, but one of my pet peeves is all of the Black separatist organizations. I believe these organizations just add fuel to thefire. If you substitute the word “white” for “black” in any on the list below, just what do you think would happen to the White organization and the people in it?
What would happen -- nothing. But, who in their right mind would join an organization of that name and type? I would never have any interest in joining any Arian Race or Nazi affiliated groups.
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OK, I will get a lot of flack for this one, but one of my pet peeves is all of the Black separatist organizations. I believe these organizations just add fuel to thefire. If you substitute the word “white” for “black” in any on the list below, just what do you think would happen to the White organization and the people in it? Don’t tell me it’s about history. This is now.
NOBLE – National Organization of Black Law Enforcement
The National Black MBA Association
National Black Prosecutors Association
National Black Graduate Student Association
National Black Republican Association
National Black Association of Engineers
National Association of Black Accountants (NABA)
And of course the NAACP.
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thinkfirst wrote: All people I really believe are racist against some culture, and it won't hurt us try to overcome it. Myself included.
I would have to disagree. We cannot say that because someone dis-likes certain aspects of some one else's culture that we are a racist. If Fred Sanford's Junk yard moved next door to your home, it would be his culture or lifestyle that you were opposed to, not him as a person. I could care less about color, but I do care about my yard and neighborhood (Safety of children, snakes and bugs etc..) If I move, somewhere else am I a racist? NO! I just have a different lifestyle.
The world today imposes it's likes and dislikes on everyone else. I hate loud music of any kind as it goes by and rattles my windows. If I live next door to that and say something, am I a racist? NO! I just would like for people to be courteous to me as I am to them. I don't junk up my yard or play my music loud. All I ever get is "it's my property, I'll do what I want". Call the police, your windows get broke or your tires sliced. Much of what people are deeming as racism is actually just cultural differences that turn ugly, and some how race enters into it!
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For Corn Nugget: I was in that also. Mike Wingo was a leader, right?
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Don't miss "Black In America" July 23 & 24 9:00 P.M. on CNN.
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| And Pete... FEAR???? WHY equate fear with race? I'm really getting that racism is so pervasive that even denying that a person is a racist lets the cat out of the bag. I'm no more fearful of a black crackhead then a white one. If I walk by a bad neighborhood with crack houses I AM going to be afraid. But not of Black people. It's a class of people that scares me. People that would rob their mother for a buck. Geez, I was petrified down on Elliots Island when all the white locals stared at me as I drove through... like "Night of the Living Dead" stare. I WAS scared. It was the lack of warmth that greeted my presence. All people I really believe are racist against some culture, and it won't hurt us try to overcome it. Myself included.
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Yes TF, I would agree to those words that you have just posted that Brett had.
I'm about to head off for county council.
What do you think about what I said about fear and how to overcome those fears?
IMO, I think that would be good for both groups to practice.
Remind me to tell a funny story about when I worked in Easton when I get back, Lord willing, from Council.
God bless,
Pete
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Sorry. I went back to this post, and understood that as I saw it Brett was condemning racism. Last night I was shopping with my daughter, and I was sitting next to a mom with her daughter. She was black, I was white, we were exactly the same for all intents and purposes. I was just feeling bad that someone called Brett a name after this post (below):
Read the bible, I stand by what I have posted.
Ask yourselves "Does God consider one race better than another?
Did Jesus when he was here on earth treat one race better than another?
Jesus said Love your neighbor as yourself. Is How were you raise to look at blacks Love? Or being racist?
God looks at all of us the same, He created all of us, he does not think one is better than the other.
What about Martin Luther King? Look what he was trying to do. Get people to get along. Look at Rose Parks, sitting on a bus, she took a stand
Does Skin color make a person better than another?
If you would only look at the person, instead of the color of there skin, what a difference this world would be.
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One more time to get the discussion track...
Yesteryear wrote...
if we are going to move forward we have to continue to talk about what divides us. Sounds good. Getting back to fear, IMO, it divides us.
Taking another step forward in the discussion, perhaps we can also talk about how to overcome that fear.
I find walking through areas of Cambridge and purposely conversing with people helps to overcome fear and /or squelch any remaiing remaining fear. Also treating others like you want to be treated helps.
God bless,
Pete
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Thinkfirst, I must be misunderstanding somthing here.
In one of Brett's post, he condemns the whole thread.
His statements indicate that you, me and everybody else are "judging."
You think he is correct?
If so what statements did you make that were judgmental? or MacMom, or me.
I don't think we were.
This is absolutely amazing,
yesteryear asks us to get back on track.
I post something positive - then Brett is mentioned again!
God bless,
Pete
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I don't mean to start anything, but I've been away... I just read Brett's post... an absolutely correct post. What, can we only give a political opinion? Morally racism and hate are wrong, and there are intelligent people with morals contrary to what some pseudo intellectuals think. Preach "love thy neighbor" and then turn around and hate them? That makes a person a sinner and a liar. All the debate in the world won't change it.
And slavery doesn't account for the fact that racism is nearly universal. Again, if you want to BEGIN to solve the problem, be a decent human being. Thank those that help you or work for you, be polite, just be decent to people. At least if you smile at me, or give me a pat on the back, but still turn around and hate me, at least I'LL feel good about you. Keep chipping away at the problem while trying to find the solutions.
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Yesteryear wrote...
if we are going to move forward we have to continue to talk about what divides us. Sounds good. Getting back to fear, IMO, it divides us.
Taking another step forward in the discussion, perhaps we can also talk about how to overcome that fear.
I find walking through areas of Cambridge and purposely conversing with people helps to overcome fear and /or squelch any remaiing remaining fear. Also treating others like you want to be treated helps.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 09:17 pm |
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| Sorry everybody but i've been shut down on this one, all i can say is if we are going to move forward we have to continue to talk about what divides us.
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CN wrote,
I am surprised no one commented more on this. I did, but with all the foolish comments posted by some others (not you CN), I'm sure it was buried.
God bless,
Pete
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Corn Nugget wrote: Anyone remember Sing Out Cambridge from the late 60's and what that movement was all about? Outrageous concept, black and white people working and singing together about change in society, conquering racism, living together in equality.
I am surprised no one commented more on this. Sing Out Cambridge was born out of the riot aftermath from families interested in repairing Cambridge, both black and white families, by bringing the group, Up With People, to Cambridge. Sing Out Cambridge existed for several years and did many concerts. They were all local teens and young adults singing about "change" and what could be. I was a musician in that group and still have most of the materials for my part in it.
The following is the Up With People history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_With_People
Signature Song
1. It happened just this morning. I was walking down the street. The milkman and the postman and policeman I did meet. There in every window, at every single door, I recognized people I’d never noticed before.
refrain: *Up, Up with people. You meet them wherever you go. Up, Up with people. They’re the best kind of folks we know. If more people were for people, all people everywhere, there’d be a lot less people to worry about, and a lot more people who care. There’d be a lot less people to worry about, and a lot more people who care.
2. People from the south-land, and people from the north, like a mighty army I saw them coming forth. ‘Twas a great reunion, befitting of a King. Then I realized people were more important than things.
3. Inside everybody there’s some bad and there’s some good, but don’t let anybody start attacking peoplehood. Love them as they are, but fight for them to be, great men and great women, as God meant them to be.
Some other songs where:
Featured Selections:
 Which Way America
Keep Young at Heart
Can We Sing a Song of Peace?
What Color is God's Skin?
Freedom Isn't Free
A site to download the words
http://musicnotes.com/features/promo/upwithpeople/
I had forgotten this little tidbit of history even after being a part of it, until this forum brought back my memories of how we got where we are today.
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Here's an intersting article on why black men date white women
http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-Black-Men-Marry-White-Women&id=515324
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Yesteryear please tell us!!! Enquiring minds want to know.
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yesteryear wrote: I personally don't think we should move this thread as of yet, there is still a lot of good that can come out of this.now i have a question that i've been wondering about for awhile.It seems that when a white man hits the big time(big money) he'll go out a get a new house car boat etc etc, but when a black man does it he'll go out and get a new white woman new house car boat etc etc. i have my opinion and I'll share later.
I would really be interested in hearing your opinion..... please continue.
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i have my opinion and I'll share later.
Speaking for myself, I would rather you didn't. Sheesh.
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yesteryear wrote: I personally don't think we should move this thread as of yet, there is still a lot of good that can come out of this.now i have a question that i've been wondering about for awhile.It seems that when a white man hits the big time(big money) he'll go out a get a new house car boat etc etc, but when a black man does it he'll go out and get a new white woman new house car boat etc etc. i have my opinion and I'll share later.
Does this mean that there is a problem with the white guy getting a black woman, when he hits the big time???Last edited on Tue Jul 15th, 2008 01:06 pm by
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| I personally don't think we should move this thread as of yet, there is still a lot of good that can come out of this.now i have a question that i've been wondering about for awhile.It seems that when a white man hits the big time(big money) he'll go out a get a new house car boat etc etc, but when a black man does it he'll go out and get a new white woman new house car boat etc etc. i have my opinion and I'll share later.
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animalcub wrote: Lets do a case study here in Cambridge. Lets let a nice well dressed family of "blacks" walk down sandy hill (the white section of town) and write down whatever observations they come across. Next lets have a nice well dressed white family walk down pine street and through the projects(the black section of town) and write down whatever observations they come across. You will quickly see who was raised with an open mind and who was raised with boggotry and hate.
What changes if this case study takes place at 11 o'clock at night?
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Pete Macinta wrote: Since this thread is starting to get loony again, I will make my offer again.
Those that seriously want to discuss this without putting up with the stupidity might consider discussing it on a forum that I know will be controlled:
http://aepdc.freeforums.org/
Note - if anyone does register, it will take a little time to approve it - but I will get to it.
God bless,
Pete
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Since this thread is starting to get loony again, I will make my offer again.
Those that seriously want to discuss this without putting up with the stupidity might consider discussing it on a forum that I know will be controlled:
http://aepdc.freeforums.org/
Note - if anyone does register, it will take a little time to approve it - but I will get to it.
God bless,
Pete
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Civil Law9 wrote: brett504 wrote: Read the bible, I stand by what I have posted.
Ask yourselves "Does God consider one race better than another?
Did Jesus when he was here on earth treat one race better than another?
Jesus said Love your neighbor as yourself. Is How were you raise to look at blacks Love? Or being racist?
God looks at all of us the same, He created all of us, he does not think one is better than the other.
What about Martin Luther King? Look what he was trying to do. Get people to get along. Look at Rose Parks, sitting on a bus, she took a stand
Does Skin color make a person better than another?
If you would only look at the person, instead of the color of there skin, what a difference this world would be.
You are unbelievably stupid. I can't believe that you can figure out how to operate a computer to even participate on this forum. I'm not kidding, you are an absolute dunce. I read what you write and it blows my mind that there is someone this stupid out there.
Game...set...match!
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 02:24 am |
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Civil Law9 wrote: brett504 wrote: Read the bible, I stand by what I have posted.
Ask yourselves "Does God consider one race better than another?
Did Jesus when he was here on earth treat one race better than another?
Jesus said Love your neighbor as yourself. Is How were you raise to look at blacks Love? Or being racist?
God looks at all of us the same, He created all of us, he does not think one is better than the other.
What about Martin Luther King? Look what he was trying to do. Get people to get along. Look at Rose Parks, sitting on a bus, she took a stand
Does Skin color make a person better than another?
If you would only look at the person, instead of the color of there skin, what a difference this world would be.
Brett 504 I think you are out there. I am not getting into a relegious debate.For your info Jesus was probably black or of African decent Of course God does not consider one race better than others. Neither did Jesus. Unfortunately history did that. Martin Luther King opened up everything. It slowed down after he was killed. Rosa Parks yes took a stand all for the better and helped close segregation. Unfortunately it still had a long way to go.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 01:35 am |
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brett504 wrote: Read the bible, I stand by what I have posted.
Ask yourselves "Does God consider one race better than another?
Did Jesus when he was here on earth treat one race better than another?
Jesus said Love your neighbor as yourself. Is How were you raise to look at blacks Love? Or being racist?
God looks at all of us the same, He created all of us, he does not think one is better than the other.
What about Martin Luther King? Look what he was trying to do. Get people to get along. Look at Rose Parks, sitting on a bus, she took a stand
Does Skin color make a person better than another?
If you would only look at the person, instead of the color of there skin, what a difference this world would be.
You are unbelievably stupid. I can't believe that you can figure out how to operate a computer to even participate on this forum. I'm not kidding, you are an absolute dunce. I read what you write and it blows my mind that there is someone this stupid out there.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 11:13 pm |
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One thing I have thought about is with the forum a person has time to think about a reply. You can read and eat breakfast or dinner etc. and think. Instead of a gut reply.
Some where in the discussion some one mentioned segregated and integrated. Who ever said something about it still being segregated in Cambridge. I don't know about that.
My question and interest is in the following. Some parts of Dorchester Cty are very far removed from bigger cities. Balti. NYC etc. The cities have there own problems with whites/blacks. That's not we are talking about.
Some say history shouldn't make a difference. But it does. 200 years ago or what ever. Blacks created their own communities because of slavery. Sad to say. Whites created their own because of the times and slavery. I can understand why black communties might distrust the whites. In the Delmarva you still have many country communities such as Harrisville, Smithville, Unionville(Talbot)etc . They are still a heritage village. Many families have stayed within that community with churches etc. Unionville still has about 14 families that are related to the 18 union soldiers that came back from the civil war. My questions is, is that not important to keep a family community together, so people have a heritage. Good or bad. The good being family, the bad being how it started.
I have read that Harrisville Rd at the very end might be where Harriet Tubman was born. In fact there is a house at almost the end that is abandoned and covered with Aluim. siding. i wouldn't be surprise to find it's under-structure is very old. I realize nobody knows where Harriet Tubman was actually born, but the black history in Dorchester certainally is important.
Sorry this is so long. Bye the way on the news this morning was a very interesting story on the De Wolf family of Boston. DVD of their family history comes out today. They were the biggest slave traders of the times. Very painful for the decendence to take this journey and their family history. They even went to Cuba for info. Northern MA family.
Any way a few thoughts and questions.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 09:36 pm |
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4Godncountry wrote: A great movie, that many will overlook because of the Christian Title, Amazing Grace about the story of William Wilberforce and his crusade to abolish slavery in England. I think that a town hall meeting, given the correct perimeters would be great. Of course not everyone who attended would be open minded. and to say open minded, to mean to the injustices of the Past as well as what is taking place in the City now. A person of contact IMO might be Lem Chester, who while being a Civil Rights leader in the past, has seemingly crossed racial boundaries quite successfully in recent years. This is just a suggestion.
Great suggestion....
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 08:46 pm |
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easternshoreman wrote: pooh_b_21632 wrote: Corn Nugget wrote: William Jew's for one, the exec. of CareFirst contemplating the multi million dollar retirement package
Question: did you graduate in Cambridge? Just wondering because I use to work for Carefirst and had the opportunity to meet Mr. Jew's he is a very nice man that likes to throw the employees rewards for hard work. It was just interesting to me that he may have grew up in the same area as me.
Mr. Jews graduated from CHS. Class of 1970. He surely did. Shows he could do a lot more than just play basketball (he did at CHS). Also, as was noted in another forum, that CHS (& CSD) doesn't do such a bad job after all. Wouldn't we all like just half of that retirement package. ;-)
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 08:42 pm |
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pooh_b_21632 wrote: Corn Nugget wrote: William Jew's for one, the exec. of CareFirst contemplating the multi million dollar retirement package
Question: did you graduate in Cambridge? Just wondering because I use to work for Carefirst and had the opportunity to meet Mr. Jew's he is a very nice man that likes to throw the employees rewards for hard work. It was just interesting to me that he may have grew up in the same area as me.
Mr. Jews graduated from CHS. Class of 1970.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 07:04 pm |
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A great movie, that many will overlook because of the Christian Title, Amazing Grace about the story of William Wilberforce and his crusade to abolish slavery in England. I think that a town hall meeting, given the correct perimeters would be great. Of course not everyone who attended would be open minded. and to say open minded, to mean to the injustices of the Past as well as what is taking place in the City now. A person of contact IMO might be Lem Chester, who while being a Civil Rights leader in the past, has seemingly crossed racial boundaries quite successfully in recent years. This is just a suggestion.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 07:00 pm |
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| Make it a poll question or questions.....
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 06:43 pm |
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If Farmer and Jimmy Ray Trump will be in the same room, I'll come. 
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 06:05 pm |
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Greetings T -
The next question would be how many on here would be willing to make the time and participate??? It depends what day of the week and time. I am tied up on Thursday evenings and Sundays.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 05:56 pm |
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| The next question would be how many on here would be willing to make the time and participate???
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 05:29 pm |
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yes....that is a good idea!!! I would like also to get together in a group setting.
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