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AuntEmile
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 01:54 pm |
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All I can say is that there are a lot of disabilities that may not be immediately apparent on the surface. The standard is pretty tough, and has to be backed up with extensive documentation. In addition, you have to provide recertification every few years or so to prove that you are still in fact disabled.
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4Godncountry
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 05:05 am |
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| Thanks for the info. but it must not be to hard to prove, as many people as I Know are on SSI disability. the payout is $600 or just a bit more. the Foodstamp payout though is much higher than you stated with most of the people I am aquainted with that are on it. They also recieve full state medical benefits...100% paid.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 06:07 pm |
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To answer questions...
There are 2 types of federally administered disability payments, Social Security Disability Income (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI). To receive SSDI, you do need to have paid enough Social Security taxes over the years to qualify. The more quarters you've paid in, the higher your SSDI benefit. After you receive SSDI for a period of time, you become eligible for Medicare.
To receive SSI, you don't need to have paid into the system at all, but the payments are substantially smaller, usually less than half what typical SSDI payments are. Most SSI recipients are Medicaid and food stamp eligible, though food stamp payouts are really small (in the neighborhood of $10 - $20 per month).
For either benefit, you have to provide an EXTENSIVE amount of documentation to verify you're disabled, from both physicians that have treated you in the past, and from doctors who are contracted by the government to provide their own medical evaluations. Many diagnoses aren't even considered. The disability standard is generally hard to prove, with some exceptions.
Hope that clears things up.
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 10:26 am |
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4Godandcountry your correct there is no requirement to have paid in to collecyt if you are disabled. they just adjust the payment to a given minimum for the number o quaters you have paid in if any but I beleive and I could be worng if you paid in nothing you can still collect $600.00 a month if you are disabled. that is not enough to live on thats for sure.
It is still my opinion that the powers that be get behind tourism in a big way. It may solve some problems short term and buy time to work on a long term stable ecomonic base. that is a fit for the area I.E if you get behind sport fishing for example there are tackle and equipment manufactures and maybe they could be lured ( no pune intended) to take a look at the area and community that supports the sport that keeps them rolling..
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4Godncountry
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 07:07 pm |
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pooh_b_21632 wrote: Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that for someone to recieve disability they must have worked and paid into social security and they only recieve payments based on what they have paid. Each year you get a statement from SS that says what you will make if you are disabled or what you will make when you retire.
I thought so to, but that sure is not the case, there is a LARGE loop hole somewhere!
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4Godncountry
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 07:06 pm |
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| I agree Pete. However the System pays better that the Job they would apply for, and they do not have to do anything for it. (I am not speaking of the REAL Disabled people). Many of these folks are YOUNG! So couple the Un-employment rate with the rate of these so called Disabled people, and the County probably is sitting on 12-15% of people who are actually unemployed. This is a terrible rate! We could spend an entire year debating disability, that's a governmental problem, but our unemployment rate is another issue!
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 07:01 pm |
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Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that for someone to recieve disability they must have worked and paid into social security and they only recieve payments based on what they have paid. Each year you get a statement from SS that says what you will make if you are disabled or what you will make when you retire.
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 06:57 pm |
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IMO, there are "disabled" folk here that can work.
I do not have to look very far to see a few.
To me, some, not all (have to make that big before someone misunderstands), are on a perpetual vacation, and we who work pay for it with our tax dollars.
God bless,
Pete
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4Godncountry
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 06:53 pm |
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| I am also curious as to the Disability rate in Dorchester co. verses the rest of the state. These folks, even if slightly disabled, cannot work because of a loss of benefits. This all plays in to the overall economy here in the county. If a disabled person is working "under the table" it takes away a spot for an unemployed person. While I know it is not legal to work under the table, it is taking place.
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 06:53 pm |
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Here's part of a story I wrote in Dec. 2005...
"Our workforce right now is anywhere from 30 to 40," said Jean - Marc Tasse of POK located at 5461 Moose Lodge Road in Cambridge.
"It's extremely difficult to find good people," he said, adding his company relies heavily upon temp agencies.
Please see my previous post.
God bless,
Pete
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Pete Macinta
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 06:41 pm |
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Questions noted ...
your both correct there is not an educated work force that could attract a large manufacture I concur.
A couple of years back I wrote a story in the Banner where i had sent out over 100 questionaires (sp?) to employers.
Got back just over a dozen responses, but most if not all pointed out most of the folks available are poorly educated, which I would say is mostly their own fault. Also, most of those available have poor work ethics.
Let me do some research. That article still might be online. I have a copy here of course, but technically it's owned by INI.
(Independent Newspapers Inc.)
God bless,
Pete
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4Godncountry
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 06:33 pm |
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Questions wrote:
My post from the other forum and it is a positive effort.
I wasn't saying you were negative, I just know how the forums go, and given the subject I just thought a new thread would give liberty to both positive and negative thoughts, wheras the other thread didn't seem to welcome any negativity. I just thought we should let that thread remain positive, no hard feelings intended.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 02:31 pm |
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I can tell you that after cold water and the other plant down by Foxwell Auctions on Moose lodge road closed Chesapeake college saw a huge jump in enrollment. Also the group that purchased coldwater has a man working with one of the teachers at Chesapeake to hire qualified workers for the plant. Its all about education anymore and alot of people are realizing it. Chesapeake in cambridge has had such a huge jump in enrollment that they are building a new Cambridge center in the next few years with alot more room for more classes. When I started at Chesapeake alot of the classrooms stood empty and dark now almost every room is lit up and full day and evening, even this summer. Without asking and averaging I would say the oldest student I have encountered was about 55 and the youngest in dual enrollment was probably 17 with a large diversity of these age ranges in each class. It is no longer mostly young people there are alot of people that have been in the workforce that are now furthering their education. There are some people that are currently working in our community and want a better job and there are people that are layed off or unemployed that want the qualifications for a good job, and there are also kids straight out of school that know they want an education but still are unsure of what they want to major in.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 11:21 am |
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Corn Nugget and thinkfirst
your both correct there is not an educated work force that could attract a large manufacture. And your not going to get one as things are now but if you improve the economy with tourism over time it can help improve the educated work force issue and then you stand a better shot at attracting a manufacturer. there is no quick fix it will take years and years how long depends on the effort made by the community. Tourism is the only method that could help improve the economy fairly fast. As a manufacturing facility would take six or more years from concept to completion.
4GodandCountry
My post from the other forum and it is a positive effort. Manufacturing has been in trouble in this country for over two decades and it is the small piece of the ecomonic pie. This and other local problems have caused the current high unemployment rate in dorchester county. I was just suggesting a method to help improve the condition that can work and will work fairly fast. Or the community could do nothing and just hope.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 02:11 am |
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pineknot wrote: Where and what did you read?
The forum of Dor. co. tourism.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 01:49 am |
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| Where and what did you read?
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 01:42 am |
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| In checking another forum that was meant to be positive, I thought we could move the content to another thread, for discussion. I would like to hear some real reasons or Ideas about the subject. no one person is responsible for the problem. we have been declining for decades, not just the past 5-8 years. Much has to do with the county employment force, while a lot has to do with the overall national economy.
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