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manworking wrote: To neatly spin your reply, places with higher incidents of crime are minority neighborhoods (as statistics show), therefore, the alley with the lone black male will be the environment with the more likelihood of a committed crime.
MW with all due respect, I'd feel safer on Pine Street that I would in some of the "white" neighborhoods in Cambridge. But then, my opinion is a little biased. I make it a point to be sure I am "safe" wherever I am.
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Civil Law9 wrote: Stellar point. You must be referring to the bicycle robberies in which the suspects are two young black males. Well said.
If anyone tries to stick me up they will need a Bentonite Clay Bath.Last edited on Sun Jul 27th, 2008 08:57 pm by 4thekids
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| Stellar point. You must be referring to the bicycle robberies in which the suspects are two young black males. Well said.
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| Not necessarily true. The recent street robberies have taken place in what I would consider some safer areas, one occurred on Maryland Ave.
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I know why no one has addressed the question posed by Civil.
To neatly spin your reply, places with higher incidents of crime are minority neighborhoods (as statistics show), therefore, the alley with the lone black male will be the environment with the more likelihood of a committed crime.
There; in a roundabout way, you said it. Thank you.
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Pete Macinta
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manworking writes,
You have completely ignored the variables in the test. Correct. Please read my post as to why.
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| You have completely ignored the variables in the test.
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Greetings Civil,
At this point I'm not trying to contradict you or disrupt any attempt of your's if you want to have a discussion about this, but something caught my eye that I was going to mention on this particular thread when the opportunity arose and a sentence or 2 of what you have there has given that occasion.
You have to pick an alley to walk down. Which one do you pick?
For Cambridge, I feel safer in areas that I know there are less incidents of crime, regardless who lives there. Hence, I feel less safe in areas with high crime, regardless who lives there.
So I feel safer walking along the new addition to High Street (predominately Af- Am) than good old Henry Street, which. I think is somewhat of a mix.
Notwithstanding, I'm sure a crime can happen anywhere.
God bless,
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I have this thing called car insurance. My insurance is higher than most because I am a young white male. You may be sitting in your flower-cushioned computer chair asking, "What's the deal, Civ?" Well, gather 'round Zappers. The insurance company actually uses statistics to evaluate the risk of a detrimental situation. Statistics show that young white males are the most probable to speed and cause automobile accidents. See where I'm going with this?
Statistics don't lie. This is not the "one bad apple" argument. This is the sole reason that when a crime is committed, before there are any suspects, people begin to utter: "I wonder why HE did this" or "I wonder who this GUY is." People that make evaluative judgments based on statistical probability are not bigots. Newsflash for Newszap: The ratio of women:men that commit violent crimes is the same ratio of white men:black men that commit violent crimes. Instead of trying to be a champion of political correctness and a moron approaching the magnitude of Jesse "Himey-Town" Jackson, take the Civil Law Challenge. At 3 am, there are 2 alleys side by side. Down one alley is a young black man. Down the other alley is a little old woman. You have to pick an alley to walk down. Which one do you pick? Why, because you're a bigot? No, because you're a reasonable person.
If you are part of one of the groups that is statistically more likely to be a parasite on society, I offer you some advice: be a catalyst for change among your cohort. Organize grassroots programs that improve the status of the people around you. Stop blaming everyone else for your problems. Be accountable for your actions. Take responsibility for your mistakes.
P.S.- I know God loves me Pete. I also know that T. is black and will certainly object but with no sufficient reasoning. I know people like Farmer and Dorchester County Girl are too stupid to understand the reasoning of my post and will label me as a jerk. These are all interesting points, and this a preemption to any non-responsive posts that will be made.
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animalclub! Thanks to farmer, I've just remembered the best answer to your question.
I know exactly what race it is!
The Bible tells me it's Adam's race!
But thanks to Jesus, we can switch races -
we can become sons of God.
Born a second time! From John 1...
1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made.
4 In Him was life, and that life was the Light of men.
5 ¶ And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came as a witness to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not.
11 He came unto His own, and His own received Him not.
12 But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
God bless,
Pete
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law_girl428 wrote: DorCouNtyGirL wrote: chs71 wrote: animalcub wrote: Fine I give in when I have kids instead of walking out around sandy hill ill take them to Carlton court and pine street and all will be fine.
This is sad. I'll bet if your car broke down on Carlton Court and Pine St. the people there would offer to help you out. You might be surprised. And I'm white, btw.
Not with an attitude like theirs they wouldn't!! Negative, Negative, Negative can't you find good in anyone?? Some people are just too quick to judge, try and look a little deeper you can NEVER judge a book by its cover.
Many times, it can be true that a low self esteem can be the reason to put yourself on a pedestal. Some people need to put another group down to make themselves feel better. Then of course, there are times that people are just mean. Either way you want to look at it, everyone's blood runs the same color regardless of race, religion or sex.
So I have low self esteem becasue I think its a stupid idea to walk down pine street with my kids.
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animalcub wrote: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
Lets pretend were in Vegas, what race are you betting on to commit a homicide
The ones who have lost everything. Vice and temptation are color blind.
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Lets pretend were in Vegas, what race are you betting on to commit a homicide
Hi animalclub. I don't gamble. That's why I'm committed to Christ.
Jesus love me and He loves you.
Think on that instead.
God bless,
Pete
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http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm
Lets pretend were in Vegas, what race are you betting on to commit a homicide
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| Manworking how do you know it is true what I said?? May or may not be, who knows? Just goes to show how quickly someone can judge another person by their appearance or say not nice things about someone they don't know. People should not judge and make comments about others if they don't want people to do the same to them, just an example.
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So you've publicly assigned a definitive personal characteristic to a poster using the same moniker as someone's government name? Your lack of foresight intrigues me, as you have now placed a bullseye on someone who could be completely innocent in this discussion.
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Maybe they were laughing at the continuously receding hairline of the twenty something Brad P. Graves ....someone else in Cambridge just may need a hair piece themselves....Doesnt feel good to be judged does it, true or not.
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| I agree - I've heard enough on this - why be so shallow and negative ALL the time!!
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rantsey wrote: You go Law Girl!!!
Thank you very much. I just hate short-sighted people . . .
 Have a good one!
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Brad P Graves wrote: Whimsical verbiage pays no mind to the argument at hand.
For instance, I was traversing through the projects on my way to pick up various pharmaceuticals and medical contraband, when I stumbled upon a past classmate whom I considered a peer and equal. To my disappoint, he had been transformed into a vagrant ragamuffin, equipped with dire goals and terrifying aspirations. Others, synonymous with his lifestyle, gathered 'round me all the while hilarity must have ensued. I say this because cackles erupted from the amassed crowd: pointing, staring, laughing. All I wanted were some good times and relaxation; all I found was a self-destructive environment full of downtrodden brutes.
Tisk tisk.
Actually, tisk, tisk.... How ignorant!!! You can't group an entire class of people into one group, simply because YOU had a bad experience....or because a small portion of a group is worthless. I can tell you, there is also a large number of "white trash" ghetto people in the Caucasian race, as well. Just go to some of your trailer parks and look around at some of the people. There's many reasons, of course, some because they have limited income, some because they are uneducated, some because they have fallen on hard times, and some, simply because they aspire to do no better. Let us not forget that there are a large number of white crack heads and dead beats as well.....
BTW...maybe you are funny looking? Perhaps if you didn't look like a cracker they wouldn't point and laugh?
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Whimsical verbiage pays no mind to the argument at hand.
For instance, I was traversing through the projects on my way to pick up various pharmaceuticals and medical contraband, when I stumbled upon a past classmate whom I considered a peer and equal. To my disappoint, he had been transformed into a vagrant ragamuffin, equipped with dire goals and terrifying aspirations. Others, synonymous with his lifestyle, gathered 'round me all the while hilarity must have ensued. I say this because cackles erupted from the amassed crowd: pointing, staring, laughing. All I wanted were some good times and relaxation; all I found was a self-destructive environment full of downtrodden brutes.
Tisk tisk.
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DorCouNtyGirL wrote: chs71 wrote: animalcub wrote: Fine I give in when I have kids instead of walking out around sandy hill ill take them to Carlton court and pine street and all will be fine.
This is sad. I'll bet if your car broke down on Carlton Court and Pine St. the people there would offer to help you out. You might be surprised. And I'm white, btw.
Not with an attitude like theirs they wouldn't!! Negative, Negative, Negative can't you find good in anyone?? Some people are just too quick to judge, try and look a little deeper you can NEVER judge a book by its cover.
Many times, it can be true that a low self esteem can be the reason to put yourself on a pedestal. Some people need to put another group down to make themselves feel better. Then of course, there are times that people are just mean. Either way you want to look at it, everyone's blood runs the same color regardless of race, religion or sex.
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chs71 wrote: animalcub wrote: Fine I give in when I have kids instead of walking out around sandy hill ill take them to Carlton court and pine street and all will be fine.
This is sad. I'll bet if your car broke down on Carlton Court and Pine St. the people there would offer to help you out. You might be surprised. And I'm white, btw.
Not with an attitude like theirs they wouldn't!! Negative, Negative, Negative can't you find good in anyone?? Some people are just too quick to judge, try and look a little deeper you can NEVER judge a book by its cover.
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animalcub wrote: Fine I give in when I have kids instead of walking out around sandy hill ill take them to Carlton court and pine street and all will be fine.
This is sad. I'll bet if your car broke down on Carlton Court and Pine St. the people there would offer to help you out. You might be surprised. And I'm white, btw.
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| Ol' Gussie speaks the truth in the matter. It isn't about who wins in these situations; it is about who plays the game with more finesse and showmanship.
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animalclub, you wrote...
Fine I give in when I have kids instead of walking out around sandy hill ill take them to Carlton court and pine street and all will be fine. not sure what you meant there.
Are you tall?
The street crossing thing happens to me too sometimes.
God bless,
Pete
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Fine I give in when I have kids instead of walking out around sandy hill ill take them to Carlton court and pine street and all will be fine.
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animalclub writes...
When walking in any other races community I am looked at with hate and possibly robbed. Maybe the devil helps you to think that.
African-Americans walk around here on predominately Caucasian south Race Street haven't seen anyone give them nasty looks.
About a week ago Lemuel Chester came by. All was cool.
Part of the problem could be the devil.
You're welcome to come to our church.
Will be praying for you.
God bless,
Pete
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You are correct this has all been a clever rouse to excite newszap addicts. Because of my sex and race I am discriminated against more than anyone. There are actual laws preventing me from being equally chosen among my peers based on my tests scores and educational background. When walking in any other races community I am looked at with hate and possibly robbed. Its so hard to over come these obstacles but somehow I do.
P.S. I am a middle class white male. O yeah O wow let that sink in im deep.
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I agree with meinmd! And with chs71 - I have never worn a bandaid that hasn't stuck out because it didn't match my skin color (I am white)! Anyhow, I think this thread should be closed now - enough comments on this topic already....time to move on...
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| I've been thinking, if this is the most troublesome problem we have with racism, then baby, we've come a long ways.
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chs71 wrote: Well, I happen to think the band-aid article is really rather shallow in content. And, besides, transparent band-aids are crap. They never seem to stick well. If the author wants to use them, more power to him/her. I don't wear them. Personally I'm tired of seeing them floating in swimming pools. And I've never found a band-aid that matched my skin color.
Yea you make a good point. What about the white people. There are not white bandaids that match our skin either. I think this is the most retarded subject for us to be discussing. For one I am sick of hearing about race! This is 2008 not the civil war. GEEEZZZZZ!!!!
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Well, I happen to think the band-aid article is really rather shallow in content. And, besides, transparent band-aids are crap. They never seem to stick well. If the author wants to use them, more power to him/her. I don't wear them. Personally I'm tired of seeing them floating in swimming pools. And I've never found a band-aid that matched my skin color.
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chs71 wrote: Yes, and the irony here is that it all started here over a band-aid, something designed to help heal a wound. Instead all that has happened is the wound now seems as if it will continue to take a very long time to heal.
O WOW thats deep man real deep.
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Yes, and the irony here is that it all started here over a band-aid, something designed to help heal a wound. Instead all that has happened is the wound now seems as if it will continue to take a very long time to heal.
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CRIMECRUNCHER wrote: Ignorance still exists because some folks are still stirring the pot. Look at all the debate that has gone on about using the N word, most folks have dropped it from their vocabulary, at least in public. Then along comes Jesse Jackson ,who will pillory anyone who uses that word, and he uses it and is recorded doing so. Can you say double standard???
See, that's what I've been trying to tell everyone in previous post on the subject of race. For all of us that want it to stop, there will be someone somewhere whether they black, white, yellow, pale or whatever to stir the pot...
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But this is okay ?
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/07/21/Feud.on.the.View.mxf.cnn
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CRIMECRUNCHER wrote: Ignorance still exists because some folks are still stirring the pot. Look at all the debate that has gone on about using the N word, most folks have dropped it from their vocabulary, at least in public. Then along comes Jesse Jackson ,who will pillory anyone who uses that word, and he uses it and is recorded doing so. Can you say double standard???
Jesse Jackson is a poor excuse for a leader. He has proved that himself time and time again. I especially liked the time he viciously attacked Bill Clinton over the whole Lewinsky thing while he was busy covering up and paying off the mother of an out of wedlock child he fathered while cheating on his wife.
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| Ignorance still exists because some folks are still stirring the pot. Look at all the debate that has gone on about using the N word, most folks have dropped it from their vocabulary, at least in public. Then along comes Jesse Jackson ,who will pillory anyone who uses that word, and he uses it and is recorded doing so. Can you say double standard???
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I'm with you T.
All of this is dumb because they make transparent bandaids.
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WHY DOES IGNORANCE STILL EXSIST A BAND AID IS SOMETHING USED TO PROTECT YOUR SKIN NOT TO BE DETERMINED ON WHAT EVER SKIN COLOR IT IS PLACED ON . AND BY THE WAY IF YOU HAVE NOT NOTICED NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN MEANT FOR BLACK OR WHITE PEOPLE IT IS GODS PEOPLE AND YOU NEED TO FIND HIM THOSE DAYS ARE LONG GONE AND WILL NEVER BE AGAIN SO GET OVER IT .  Last edited on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 02:55 pm by dd2001
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| A bandaid is a bandaid is a bandaid is a bandaid..... It doesn't matter what color, hue, or pattern it is, it's there to treat a wound. I could care less. Now if the people that made Bandaid's decided to sell them only to Asian or Polish people, then I'd have a problem. But as long as they treat the problem, they can be any color they want to be. I prefer the Sesame Street bandaids myself....
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| Well, personally I have never seen a band-aid blend in well with anyone's complextion, they stick out like a sore thumb on any color. Which is why when I had my surgery on my face I wore cute ones. It wasn't going to be hidden so at least I accessorized!
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Animalcub.,
Well, maybe it makes sense after all. After all, the writer stated that "it could be argued that this is a predominately white region," and therefore that impacted the band-aid color. It's partly a marketing thing, and based on what sells or does not sell. I live in a majority black county. We have band-aids of all flavors here--including many clear ones. On the other hand, at Christmas, I can't take my grandchild to see a mall Santa who is not Black. Do I cry racism? I went to a small local market & all the clerks were Hispanic, the food labels were all in Spanish, and the food products weren't ones I normally use. Is it racism? I walked into a local beauty supply store. The products all catered to African-Americans. There was no blonde hair coloring to be found in the store. Did I cry racism? No, I walked out and went to another store.
We walk into a Chinese carry out and it doesn't bother us that there is only Chinese food on the menu. Ethnic stores are everywhere. It doesn't seem to bother anyone. With the influx of immigrants we will be seeing an increase in the number of stores that cater to the needs of one race or another. There will also continue to be stores that cater to those of European descent. And to those who argue, well, those have always been in the majority--well, wasn't the population majority white at the time?
Personally, I and many others grow weary of seeing the race card being pulled. It's the easy way out, and sometimes the result of a knee-jerk reaction. Yeah, racism exists, but it's an equal-opportunity affliction that seems to present itself in ALL races.
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animalclub writes...
racismis everywhere!!!!!!!!! nah, not in my house.
Petey' believe it or not, for animalclub :
I've had African Americans ...
Sit on our front porch
Sleep on our couch
Eat our food from our dishes
Ride in our car, and even in the front seat.
Come to our church
Come to our church picnic
We have at least one piece of furniture from an African Am. family.
We have walked down their streets,
Been in their homes,
Ate their food
Our church gave one man a mattress - the guy had a bad back.
When we pray for people in church, we often anoint with oil and actually touch peoples' foreheads - and I have actually done that with African Americans
We've held their babies, and they've held ours.
There's times I sit next to them in council meetings and there's times they sit me.
I once rode down Race Street waving hi to people I knew, and it turned out I personally knew more Af. Ams than Caucasians I saw.
As a self-employed individual, two my clients are Af Am.
Racism is not here - and it's not in a lot of places, and we are not the only Caucasians that do these things.
And, just jolly well wherer were you Tuesday July 15??? Ye called me a liar on another thread. You and I could have had a brief chat (but no chew) with Coulcilman William Nichols.
BTW, I voted for the Jackson-Stanley. Shook her hand twice today. I think she made it a point to try to talk to everyone this afternoon. IMO, she will make a great mayor.
Racism stops in Jesus Christ.
Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Amen!
God bless,
Pete
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Maybe animalclub was just starting a new forum for fun. Maybe s/he was making a commentary about how ads on TV, commercials, products, every day things we Caucasians take for granted leave everyone else out. It's so TRUE. But, if 80% of the US is Caucasian then the $$$ to be made is blindingly directed toward that hugely larger group. If a Caucasian went to the store and the bandaids were brown, the hair dye was black, the makeup was for dark skin, there were hair straighteners but not hair conditioners.. I think you might feel left out. I don't think it's a stupid point. Still, it's marketing, plain and simple. Demographic research changes what products are available in your area. IF you live in a big city, lol, not in Cambridge.
Animalclub, that's life. Be happy. Ho Ho's are as popular as Twinkies.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 02:11 am |
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http://www.adrants.com/2008/05/pepperidge-farm-gets-racy-or-is-it.php
racismis everywhere!!!!!!!!!
Last edited on Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 02:12 am by animalcub
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 01:18 am |
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I don't care if the band aid is purple with pink polkadots....what matters is if it's going to keep me from bleeding all over everything!
Always remember people....if you are looking hard enough to find something sooner or later you will...no matter how ridiculous it is!!! I'll bet there's some bonehead out in the world right now looking for racism in cookies....and by god I bet they find it!
Personally I like reading stories like the one posted at the beginning of this thread....let's me know who the real morons are in this country so I can stay away from them!
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 01:15 am |
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I could sit here and say about O WOw not bad my arms not the right tone and thatd be my choice to do but why say it and heres the thing you dont just wake up racist you know it when your a young pup or what not.
Well put fuzzy rectum, you do know if your racist when you are young. I'm not going to stand here for crying out loud. You just expect me to believe this isnt another thing the government just puts behind them and forgets like Katrina. Why couldn't those nice people get food. Every where I turn and everything thing I see on the news just brings back alot of terrible memories. I just feel guilty all the time.
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