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So what is the answer JW? Leave? Obama and McCain both agree we need to look forward to solve the problem. Concentrating on the past is only going to keep us in the present no matter who is in office. With all the differences between Bush and McCain some people can't get over the fact that they are very different. Lets just hide behind it. A truly weak argument. McCain must be a oil craving, money hungry, Bush coddling and war loving mongrel, after all JW says so. What does the man's record matter. We can twist and turn anything around enough to sound bad or good. Heck after all Obama is a Muslim terrorist right. Boy we are all in big trouble with whom ever gets in office.
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Just wondering wrote: Gordy, The Iraq occupation endorses the Bush doctrine. When McCain says we need a "base" there, he just means we need to occupy the country. As long as we keep up the occupation of Iraq, the Iraqis will never handle their own affairs. To McCain and bush, a base simply means an occupation for the rest of time. IN BUSH'S WAR OF CHOICE, NOT NECESSITY, WE GOTTA KEEP AN EYE ON THAT OIL THAT ALL THOSE SOLDIERS BRAVELY GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR, NOW DON"T WE?!!!! THAT'S WHY THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO STAY THERE FOREVER with a "base / occupation" till the end of time !!!! Iraq DID NOT ATTACK US ON 9/11. Bin Laden did, and he was in Afghanistan, now wasn't he? Still is, now isn't he. McCain was wrong , bush was wrong. Look at the mess we are in now. Thanks Republicans.
Base and occupation are two very different things. So are we still occupying Germany? Japan? Kosovo?
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Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 05:43 pm |
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| Gordy, The Iraq occupation endorses the Bush doctrine. When McCain says we need a "base" there, he just means we need to occupy the country. As long as we keep up the occupation of Iraq, the Iraqis will never handle their own affairs. To McCain and bush, a base simply means an occupation for the rest of time. IN BUSH'S WAR OF CHOICE, NOT NECESSITY, WE GOTTA KEEP AN EYE ON THAT OIL THAT ALL THOSE SOLDIERS BRAVELY GAVE THEIR LIVES FOR, NOW DON"T WE?!!!! THAT'S WHY THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO STAY THERE FOREVER with a "base / occupation" till the end of time !!!! Iraq DID NOT ATTACK US ON 9/11. Bin Laden did, and he was in Afghanistan, now wasn't he? Still is, now isn't he. McCain was wrong , bush was wrong. Look at the mess we are in now. Thanks Republicans.
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C.C., I beg to differ. There is a lot of strange and esoteric jargon and protocol that goes on inside the House and Senate by way of tradition that would be ridiculous used in what is for all practical purposes an open discussion with the American public.
B: "I kindly disagree, sir. What the disgruntled elder senator from Arizona has claimed time and time again ..."
J: "The upstart multiracial senator from Illinois is overstating my record."
... should they wear foppish pantaloons and powdered white wigs to the next debate?
From last night's SNL: http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/couric-palin-open/704042/
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| In debates on the ?Senate floor they generally do not refer to one another by first names, its usually'the learned gentleman from Kentucky' or 'the senior senator from Virginia ' or some such. Such courtesy should follow to a national forum.
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As well it should be if Al Qaeda is there. If Al Qaeda is over there then they are not over here blowing us up. After Al Qaeda done with we could have a base in Iraq. That simple.
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I don't think so..Gordy. Here are some of McCains words from one of the articles I posted.....
"As long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed, it's fine with me and I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day."
He may have been talking about a "base" but when it is volatile and running amuck with al Qaeda, then there is going be more then just a "base" happening there.
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scrapple wrote: pineknot wrote: 4Godncountry wrote: MacMom wrote: I cannot say anyone won, but I can say who conducted themselves like an adult, McCain.
Behaving like an adult? McCain wasn't even man enough to make eye contact or acknowledge Obama standing on the stage having a debate with him. Yeah, he's a real "reacher across the aisle" kind of guy. It was both odd and rude.
As crude as it sounds I wouldn't of either if he continued calling me John, instead of Sen McCain. He has certainly earned it
Both Obama and McCain are senators. Why in the world would they not call each other by first names.
Yes, McCain would not look at Obama. That was crude of McCain not to acknowledge Obama.
They have known each other by first name for quite some time now as all of the 50 senators do. In third-person reference, you'd still say "Sen. McCain," but when speaking to each other, first-name-basis is fine.
That's the point Obama was speaking to McCain. I agree Scrapple. In third-person reference. But in the debates, McCain was speaking to Obama, and Obama was speaking to McCain.
They should have been calling each other John and Barack.
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pineknot wrote: 4Godncountry wrote: MacMom wrote: I cannot say anyone won, but I can say who conducted themselves like an adult, McCain.
Behaving like an adult? McCain wasn't even man enough to make eye contact or acknowledge Obama standing on the stage having a debate with him. Yeah, he's a real "reacher across the aisle" kind of guy. It was both odd and rude.
As crude as it sounds I wouldn't of either if he continued calling me John, instead of Sen McCain. He has certainly earned it
Both Obama and McCain are senators. Why in the world would they not call each other by first names.
Yes, McCain would not look at Obama. That was crude of McCain not to acknowledge Obama.
They have known each other by first name for quite some time now as all of the 50 senators do. In third-person reference, you'd still say "Sen. McCain," but when speaking to each other, first-name-basis is fine.
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Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 03:22 am |
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I said this last night. :
Gordy wrote: So what is wrong with having a base in Iraq as we do in many countries worldwide?
You guys always try to twist things up. Auctually it's getting old untwisting your smoke and mirror statements.
dzblond.....open eyes before mouth.
A base is exactly what he was talking about. Not a 100 year war. Most people with common sense knew this when he said it.
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dzblond wrote: Gordy wrote: JW, I know the answer but what do you mean when you talk about McCain thinking we could be there another 100 years.
Republican presidential front-runner Sen. John McCain on Thursday defended his statement that U.S. troops could spend "maybe 100" years in Iraq ( http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/14/mccain.king/ )
Last week, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said it “would be fine with” him if the U.S. military stayed in Iraq for “a hundred years” or even a “million years.”
( http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/06/mccain-permanent-bases/ )
You totally missed it dzblond.
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4Godncountry wrote: MacMom wrote: I cannot say anyone won, but I can say who conducted themselves like an adult, McCain.
Behaving like an adult? McCain wasn't even man enough to make eye contact or acknowledge Obama standing on the stage having a debate with him. Yeah, he's a real "reacher across the aisle" kind of guy. It was both odd and rude.
As crude as it sounds I wouldn't of either if he continued calling me John, instead of Sen McCain. He has certainly earned it
Both Obama and McCain are senators. Why in the world would they not call each other by first names.
Yes, McCain would not look at Obama. That was crude of McCain not to acknowledge Obama.
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Gordy wrote: JW, I know the answer but what do you mean when you talk about McCain thinking we could be there another 100 years.
Republican presidential front-runner Sen. John McCain on Thursday defended his statement that U.S. troops could spend "maybe 100" years in Iraq ( http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/14/mccain.king/ )
Last week, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said it “would be fine with” him if the U.S. military stayed in Iraq for “a hundred years” or even a “million years.”
( http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/06/mccain-permanent-bases/ )
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| Did anyone notice that ole mccain didn't have a flag pin onlast night at the debate. He usually doesn't wear one. I'm thinking how all the republicans made such a big deal over Obama not wearing one, but never ever say anthing about mccain not wearing one. Check google, then click google images, and you will find only one or two of mccain with a flag pin on. I don't think there is anything wrong at all about NOT wearing a flag pin. What I do find sooooo funny, is how republicans made such a big deal over nothing about flag pins in the first place. Mccain didn't have one on last night. That is sooooo funny.
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MacMom wrote: I cannot say anyone won, but I can say who conducted themselves like an adult, McCain.
Behaving like an adult? McCain wasn't even man enough to make eye contact or acknowledge Obama standing on the stage having a debate with him. Yeah, he's a real "reacher across the aisle" kind of guy. It was both odd and rude.
As crude as it sounds I wouldn't of either if he continued calling me John, instead of Sen McCain. He has certainly earned it!
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I cannot say anyone won, but I can say who conducted themselves like an adult, McCain.
Behaving like an adult? McCain wasn't even man enough to make eye contact or acknowledge Obama standing on the stage having a debate with him. Yeah, he's a real "reacher across the aisle" kind of guy. It was both odd and rude.
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While being laid up for a few days, and nothing to do (which drives me crazy.) I watched the entire debate. I think that the last time I actually watched one (at least in it's entirety), was Reagan in 1979.
Most people who have already made up their minds believe their candidate won. My observations were these. Obama consistently called McCain," John", While McCain called him Sen. Obama. This is simply a lack of respect for Age and years of service , towards McCain. Secondly, McCain rattled off names of Leaders and Counties and issues, because he has been there and knows what is going on in the World. Obama sounded like a Kid reading from some school book, He had no clue! What I heard a lot of was that he agreed with McCain. Not one time did I hear Obama say check my record, I am proud of it. McCain said repeatedly, check my record.
Obama tried several times to go backwards and bring up why we are in the war. McCain answered as I would have, The next president does not have to deal with why we are in iraq, just with finishing the Job, and making sure we do not have to go back. We are not in the financial mess because of the Bush administration, While maybe more could have been done, I specifically heard Obama say 10 years, This would at least take us back to the Clinton years. I cannot say anyone won, but I can say who conducted themselves like an adult, McCain.
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thinkfirst wrote: LOL, the debate was EXCELLENT. McIdiot NEVER once looked at Obama. And the Barbie princess will debate Biden on Oct. 2 I think... I CAN'T WAIT!!! Nice to see Obama most certainly held his own against the self described "maverick"... he even has his own bracelet, lol, being tired of McIdiots worn out heartstring pulling he was given his own. Maybe palin will come down with the flu to escape.
Are you talking about the Presidential Debates on T.V. last night??
The one on 9-26-2008 in Mississippi?
I watched it and this may come as a huge SURPRISE, but I did not see what you saw. 
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| LOL, the debate was EXCELLENT. McIdiot NEVER once looked at Obama. And the Barbie princess will debate Biden on Oct. 2 I think... I CAN'T WAIT!!! Nice to see Obama most certainly held his own against the self described "maverick"... he even has his own bracelet, lol, being tired of McIdiots worn out heartstring pulling he was given his own. Maybe palin will come down with the flu to escape.
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I have made several comments toward that subject and Barny Frank along with the Clinton mandate, even admitted to by Bill Clinton, were the foundation of this issue. Recievers of benefit are heavy on the democrat side however both sides have benefitted.
The only comments you will get from the libs is self denial of what really happened.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o
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So what is wrong with having a base in Iraq as we do in many countries worldwide?
You guys always try to twist things up. Auctually it's getting old untwisting your smoke and mirror statements.
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JW, I know the answer but what do you mean when you talk about McCain thinking we could be there another 100 years.
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Just wondering wrote: Corn Nugget wrote: I want some of your drugs. I got some tums for you though for your buddy Barney Franks that sat on the committee that created our current crisis. And let's not forget that, as it was termed today, the MANDATE from the democrats back in the 90's through Bill Clinton's signature that demanded banks issue sub prime loans........in the name of affordable houseing.
Both sides of the isle benefitted for sure, but it all started with the Dems. Go cook dinner or something, your attempt at rhetoric is boring
I checked the Congressional Accounting Records and found that Bill Clinton had a $559 BILLION dollars surplus when he left office. Boy, I would say Bush put us in the dumper, wouldn't you, with an uncalled for war costing billions a month. Where is the uproar over billions a month being spent for a war of choice waged by a puppet of Dick Cheney. You will see now that when you do the latest research on the latest oil company to establish itself in Iraq , that is is SHELL. DUH!!! And some stupid people think we didn't go to war over their oil. Give me a break. And McCain wants to stay there for 100 years if necessary. Sure to get their oil. No McCain , no way, no how!!!!!!!!!!
By the way Shell is not an US company....
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A Bombshell
In June 2003, Freddie Mac dropped a bombshell: It had understated its profits over the previous three years by as much as $6.9 billion in an effort to smooth out earnings.
OFHEO seemed blind. Months earlier, the regulator had pronounced Freddie's accounting controls "accurate and reliable."
Humiliated by the scandal, then-OFHEO director Armando Falcon Jr. persuaded the White House to pay for an outside accountant to review the books of Fannie Mae. The agency reported in September 2004 that Fannie Mae also had manipulated its accounting, in this case to inflate its profits.
The companies were humbled. The flaws of their business practices were laid bare.
The companies soon faced new bills in both the House and the Senate seeking increased regulation. The Bush administration took the hardest line, insisting on a strong new regulator and seeking the power to put the companies into receivership if they foundered. That suggested the government might not stand behind the companies' debt.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac succeeded in escaping once more, by pounding every available button.
The companies orchestrated a letter-writing campaign by traditional allies including real estate agents, home builders and mortgage lenders. Fannie Mae ran radio and television ads ahead of a key Senate committee meeting, depicting a Latino couple who fretted that if the bill passed, mortgage rates would go up.
The wife lamented: "But that could mean we won't be able to afford the new house."
Most of all, the company leaned on its Congressional supporters.
In the Senate, Robert F. Bennett (R-Utah) added an amendment giving Congress the ability to block receivership, weakening that bill to the point where the White House would no longer support it. Bennett's second-largest contributor that year was Fannie Mae; his son was then the deputy director of Fannie's regional office in Utah.
Fannie Mae even persuaded the New York Stock Exchange to allow its shares to keep trading. The company had not issued a required report on its financial condition in a year. The rules of the exchange required delisting. So the exchange created an exception when "delisting would be significantly contrary to the national interest."
The amendment was approved by the Securities and Exchange Commission. FNM would remain on the NYSE.
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Letterman has ALWAYS been left.
Just because you don't like the truth that Fox News puts out you can't stand it. They are far more down the center than any other big news. I said big news not from some nut with no life in the basement of their house like the Jed Report.
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John McCain in 2005, on Fannie and Freddy...
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Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.
The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.
The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.
For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.
I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation. Guess what.....McCain got shot down and so did Bush in their attempt to head this off. Again, both sides benefited, however, Obamy got his share. Hmmm, ya think he voted present or just did not show up on this one.
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Just wondering wrote: Gordy wrote: The Jed Report ? You have got to be kidding it is one of the most far left lying and misleading things out there. Letterman and Craig Ferguson are comediens and the others have captions that are not the case. JW and Shadow, please just please try to have some honesty and truthfulness here. Just try........... be a good sport.
Saber rattler, bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb, Iran, and I could go on and on.
Uh, JW, Obama said that. Care to go on now. Only his choice was Nukes. Tell me what drugs you are on.... I need some.
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Corn Nugget wrote: I want some of your drugs. I got some tums for you though for your buddy Barney Franks that sat on the committee that created our current crisis. And let's not forget that, as it was termed today, the MANDATE from the democrats back in the 90's through Bill Clinton's signature that demanded banks issue sub prime loans........in the name of affordable houseing.
Both sides of the isle benefitted for sure, but it all started with the Dems. Go cook dinner or something, your attempt at rhetoric is boring
I checked the Congressional Accounting Records and found that Bill Clinton had a $559 BILLION dollars surplus when he left office. Boy, I would say Bush put us in the dumper, wouldn't you, with an uncalled for war costing billions a month. Where is the uproar over billions a month being spent for a war of choice waged by a puppet of Dick Cheney. You will see now that when you do the latest research on the latest oil company to establish itself in Iraq , that is is SHELL. DUH!!! And some stupid people think we didn't go to war over their oil. Give me a break. And McCain wants to stay there for 100 years if necessary. Sure to get their oil. No McCain , no way, no how!!!!!!!!!!
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Gordy wrote: The Jed Report ? You have got to be kidding it is one of the most far left lying and misleading things out there. Letterman and Craig Ferguson are comediens and the others have captions that are not the case. JW and Shadow, please just please try to have some honesty and truthfulness here. Just try........... be a good sport.
Like Fox news skews the news so much, or how Rush Limbaugh is so far right, its a wonder he can even walk straight! You mean like that? You gotta admit, what McCain did by lying to Letterman, and not just saying I'd rather do a news program than your show, was a good indicator of his character, don't ya think. He said he had to fly right back to Washington, right back he said, and then went straight to an interview with Katie Couric and went to Washington 22 hours later. It shows he is a liar. I don't want someone who is a liar in the Whitehouse. We already have had that for the last time I hope with Bush, the decider. David Letterman will probably talk about him lying again tonight, like he did last night, and I hope Letterman talks about what McCain did until the election. Mc Cain called Letterman one hour before the show and LIED about why he could not come. LIAR LIAR , Saber rattler, bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb, Iran, and I could go on and on.
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Corn Nugget wrote: Just wondering wrote: Just for fun !!!! Oh No!!! You mean me suspending my campaign and saying let's postpone the debate, made me look like I wasn't ready to debate and that it would make me go lower in the polls? Why didn't somebody tell me????
Actually, it was the other way around JW. He pulled even up today with what he did.
Keep on trying though.
The PEW research group said a large part of people now, do not have land lines for their phones any more, and that since a lot of people 35 and under use only a cell phone, and that it is too expensive to call cell phones, that most of the poles mean next to nothing anyway. Young people will be a HUGE part of the vote this year. Among those that have cell phones only, and not land lines, the Pew research people said that in August, it found that 62 percent were Democrats and 28 percent republicans. Similarly, young cell phone users preferred Obama over McCain by 35 percentage points. When omitting cell phone users from the poll, Obama's numbers are not as high. Gosh, look out if the polled cell phone users. And be honest, how many people who say they are voting for McCain, are really gonna vote Obama once they get to the polls and pull that lever. A ton more than you think. And after Palen's very embarrassing latest interviews that were so bad and sounded so dumb, I think people thought No Way could a dingbat like that step in to take over the presidency if, God forbid, something happened to McCain if he should win. Phew!!! Now that is scary. Palen as president.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 11:57 pm |
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The Jed Report ? You have got to be kidding it is one of the most far left lying and misleading things out there. Letterman and Craig Ferguson are comediens and the others have captions that are not the case. JW and Shadow, please just please try to have some honesty and truthfulness here. Just try........... be a good sport.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 11:57 pm |
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| JW, care for some Kool Aid??? Attachment: 180px-Kool-AidMan[1].jpg (Downloaded 184 times)
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 11:49 pm |
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I want some of your drugs. I got some tums for you though for your buddy Barney Franks that sat on the committee that created our current crisis. And let's not forget that, as it was termed today, the MANDATE from the democrats back in the 90's through Bill Clinton's signature that demanded banks issue sub prime loans........in the name of affordable houseing.
Both sides of the isle benefitted for sure, but it all started with the Dems. Go cook dinner or something, your attempt at rhetoric is boring.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 11:44 pm |
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 The Jed Report
If He Can Attack Obama, Why Can't He Debate Obama?
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John McCain: I haven't read the Paulson plan
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Craig Ferguson on McCain suspending his Campaign
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Palin's Witch-Fighting Pastor
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Reid "McCain diverting attention from his failing campaign"
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 BE SURE TO WATCH THIS ONE!!!! IT IS SOOOOO FUNNY !
David LettermanLast edited on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 11:45 pm by Just wondering
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 11:44 pm |
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Just wondering wrote: Just for fun !!!!Oh No!!! You mean me suspending my campaign and saying let's postpone the debate, made me look like I wasn't ready to debate and that it would make me go lower in the polls? Why didn't somebody tell me????
Actually, it was the other way around JW. He pulled even up today with what he did.
Keep on trying though.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 11:39 pm |
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Oh Gosh!!! I hope I hold the microphone right side up this time at the debate.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 10:57 pm |
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| Just for fun !!!!Oh No!!! You mean me suspending my campaign and saying let's postpone the debate, made me look like I wasn't ready to debate and that it would make me go lower in the polls? Why didn't somebody tell me????
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 02:38 pm |
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He is handsome and she is pretty but that is ugly.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 02:29 pm |
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That is beyond bizarre... Ha!
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 02:28 pm |
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| Just for Fun!! Attachment: barack palin.bmp (Downloaded 236 times)
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 02:08 pm |
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Scrap, the nitpicking is in your claims. I showed you where you were wrong again and you start crying. You dig deep to find anything so who is nitpicking? Sure he can multi-task but he can't be in two places at the same time.
Last edited on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 02:15 pm by Gordy
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 01:16 pm |
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This brought a tear to my eye! (from laughing)
http://www.minimovie.com/film-128432-Reunited
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 01:10 pm |
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Yes, it's ALL political everywhere by everyone.
How about Pelosi & the Dems trying to throw together a deal real quick for the sole reason that McCain was on his way? Because they were trying to minimize him.
Why was no one concerned when Obama didn't want to do 10 hall meetings yet they try to demonize McCain for wanting to postpone a debate. (Even Bill Clinton was on board with that one)
Why is there 20 times the magnification on any slips Palin might make as opposed to the silly little slips that Biden makes? Because the media is mad that she won't play with them.
It's gotten so bad, that if Palin recommended that families should go on vacation with their children to Disneyland- the Media would slam her for not going to Disney World.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 05:51 am |
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Oh come on, man. You are nitpicking some insane s**t right there. What has he suspended? He has personally spoken to news channels several times daily since he made that announcement, and every time he's talked about it -- that's campaigning in itself! Hey, you know what, it was a political move and maybe it'll pay off. I'm just saying, stop thinking it's anything else.
"I'm not going to campaign" is a campaigning message. We live in the era of the hyper-campaign, with huge teams and constant strategy shifts. To "win a news cycle" is a daily goal. McCain won a news cycle with that gamble. So in that sense, it paid off.
Politics as usual. Nothing to do with "solving the situation in Washington."
And I agree with the premise a potential president should be able to multitask enough that he can spare 90 minutes of his time to let the public hear from him in an unscripted manner. He'll show.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5ijvscUwbiQ0jqRS9BpqJf1So33pwD93E4V8G0
I find it a silly stretch for you to try to make us believe he meant he would suspend only his own campaigning -- which as we can see he still hasn't done. But as long as people (and we see some here) believe this is happening ...
Even then, you're voting for him anyway, so no net gain.
Last edited on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 06:06 am by scrapple
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 02:33 am |
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Hey scrap, I thought you were more honest than that . The article reads ' his campaign '
You said: ' this campaign' ................ big difference. http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/09/r_davis_wining.html
His campaigning was suspended for a couple of days. Davis said very clearly according to YOUR article was looking toward an Oct 14 date. Get real
Last edited on Fri Sep 26th, 2008 03:27 am by Gordy
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 02:23 am |
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McCain was himself taking a couple of days off from campaigning and fundraising . That does not mean all of his people there MR. TWISTER.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 02:14 am |
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(Thanks for the shady-maple link ... I could use the 30 lbs. of chicken deal...)
More on the "suspension" of campaign:
"John McCain's announcement that he's suspending his campaign to help work on a bailout plan is looking less and less sincere by the minute.
At about 4:30 p.m. EDT on Wednesday afternoon, McCain spokesman Brian Rogers e-mailed reporters to say, "To be clear, in addition to suspending his campaign to return to Washington to work for a bipartisan solution to this problem, this campaign is suspending its advertising and fundraising."
Apparently, someone forgot to tell the boss.
The National Journal's Peter Stone reports that Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager, held a dinner at New York City's famous 21 Club Wednesday night at which he met with about a dozen top New York-based fundraisers. Stone writes: The dinner meeting, according to an attendee, included an update on McCain's decision to return to Washington today, criticism of Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson Jr. for failing to act more decisively earlier, and calls for more fundraising for the party by leading New York money harvesters...
Even though campaign officials were temporarily told to suspend their fundraising and other activities per McCain’s instructions, [Woody Johnson IV, a top GOP fundraiser] told the assembled guests that they "ought to redouble their efforts" to make sure that an upcoming fundraiser in New York on Oct 14 is a success, according to the attendee."
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 01:37 am |
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| Try: http://WWW.SHADY-MAPLE.COM
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