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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 08:34 pm |
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shadow wrote: I'm a very happy Democrat today.
Why, I never thought I'd see the words "happy" and "Democrat" in the same sentence.
This is truly historic.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 08:30 pm |
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Hello, campers:
Here's a COMPLETE list of the bills B. Hussein Obama has gotten passed in the Senate in the 3.6 years he's spent in office representing Illinois, and by extension, the United States (he's actually been on the roll call, in those 3.6 years, about 150 total days, by the way):
109th Senate (Jan. 2005-Jan. 2007):
Look out. Here are some world-shakers!
Res. 291 - Congratulating the Chicago White Sox for winning the 2005 World Series
Res. 516 - Recognizing the historical significance of Juneteenth Independence Day and expressing the sense of the Senate that history should be regarded as a means for understanding the past... Juneteenth, a quasi-official holiday, has existed for decades, beginning in Galveston, Texas, as a means of commemorating the end of slavery. (Note from David: Of course, Lincoln penned the Emancipation Proclamation in SEPTEMBER 1862, it became official first, in Northern states, on JANUARY 1, 1863, and the Civil War ended in APRIL 1865.)
Res. 529 - Recognizing July 13, 2006 as National Learning Day. (Note from David: This figures. School ends in 95 percent of American schools around Flag Day - JUNE 14.)
That's it.
Three -3 - count 'em - bills proposed by Barack Obama - none of any real substance or effect on improving American life aside from remembering the end of slavery in a month which does not correspond to the efforts of the country's most famout abolitionist, Abraham Lincoln.
110th Senate (Jan. 2007-present):
Res. 133- Honoring the life of the late Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.
Res. 268- Designating July 12 (sigh), 2007 as National learning Day. (Yes, July again...)
And... that's it.
He's proposed his share of legialstion -- but 90 percent of it has been tabled by various Senate committees and will never see the floor for a vote. Of the remaining 10 percent, they're listed as being "reported to the Senate," but have not yet been voted upon, as far as I can tell.
He's also co-sponsored such lofty, society-quaking bits of paperwork like:
1] Congratulating the City of Chicago for being selected to host the 2016 Para-Olympic Games:
2] A resolution encouraging the recognition of the Negro Baseball Leagues and their players on May 20th of each year. (Jackie Robinson's debut was, of course, on April 15.)
3] A resolution supporting the goals and ideals of National Teen Driver Safety Week.
4] A resolution supporting the goals and ideals of observing the National Day of Human Trafficking Awareness on January 11 of each year to raise awareness of and opposition to human trafficking (interesting, considering B. Hussein Obama is descended from SLAVE TRADERS in East Africa, isn't it?);
5] And finally, A resolution commemorating the 25th anniversary of the construction and dedication of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
So, we have a bunch of feel-good do-nothing legialstion by a freshman who's voted to raise taxes EVERY SINGLE TIME it's been on the Senate floor.
Yeah, that's experience.
In poker terms, Obama's a Jack-high hand, and McCain's got a pair of deuces. Neither's very strong, but the better bluffer will probably win.
This is what nearly half the country thinks is capable of running the most powerful nation-state in the history of this planet? A guy who spends most of his paperwork congratulating people for what THEY have already done?
But it's all about CHANGE, folks, CHANGE! The word that will fix EVERYTHING! Just keep yelling it, Liberals! Noise, you think, is a suitable replacement for intellect!
Ignore the fact that no one would've believed that, after Sept. 11, we'd go seven years without an attack on American soil. Ignore that, despite the troop surge actually working, the Left is so heavily invested in failure they're actively promoting it, despite the facts (check out michaelyononline.com -- Michael's been over there for five years and tells it like it is, unlike the talking heads back here who read off a teleprompter).
I'm not a big McCain guy, because he's soft on illegals and against drilling in ANWR, to name just two bad choices he's made -- but he said it right when he said government's too big, and Obama wants to grow it, we're winning the war and Obama wants to forfeit, and taxes are too high and Obama wants to raise them.
But hey, it's not about results to the left, it's about feeling good. Look good and lose, that's the Left.
I just wish they'd do it in someone else's country.
Last edited on Fri Aug 29th, 2008 08:33 pm by Algrithm
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 07:48 pm |
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4thekids wrote: .
If I can't get it right with two tries, I'll just give up!
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 06:42 pm |
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She better close the closet door.
Google . . Sarah Palin "Abuse of Power"
Edited to add: For those of you that hate to google she is currently under an ethics investigation in AK. I guess she is a good fit for the party.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 06:33 pm |
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At least in the GOP, the head of the ticket has experience and lots of it, the dems got it backward.
This campaign will last a little over 2 months. I would think her children will be able to cope with their dad being entrusted with their care for that periiod of time. As VP her main job is to preside over the US Senate which meand she can still be a working mom. The Veep doesn't do all that much travelling.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 06:24 pm |
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AuntEmile wrote: I find it ironic that McCain's choice suffers from precisely the same vulnerability that he's called Obama out on -- lack of experience. Seriously, one term governor and small town mayor counts as VP worthy experience? Having a child with a disability that you're now not going to be able to parent yourself because you're out on the campaign trail 24/7 -- that gives you the needed credentials to be second in command?
Bear in mind that McCain at 72 is creeping up there in terms of overall life expectancy -- seriously, would you want this woman as leader of the free world and Commander in Chief?
Well she did hold an office in the PTA and I believe she stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. Does that help?
No . . No . . No way would I want this woman as leader of the Free World!
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 06:14 pm |
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I find it ironic that McCain's choice suffers from precisely the same vulnerability that he's called Obama out on -- lack of experience. Seriously, one term governor and small town mayor counts as VP worthy experience? Having a child with a disability that you're now not going to be able to parent yourself because you're out on the campaign trail 24/7 -- that gives you the needed credentials to be second in command?
Bear in mind that McCain at 72 is creeping up there in terms of overall life expectancy -- seriously, would you want this woman as leader of the free world and Commander in Chief?
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:25 pm |
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| Biden may want to be careful how he approaches the debate. If he comes off as too much of an attack dog(his forte) he risks alienating some of the Hillary faithful who still are willing to vote dem in Nov.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:23 pm |
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shadow wrote: Sue, before her two years as Governor she was a small town Mayor. No reflection, but I don't consider that Vice Presidential qualifying experience.
Do you want to play the experience card??
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:19 pm |
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Obama may be a "Mile High", but he is an inch thick and Biden's mouth does not make up the lack of depth.
The pick of Palin as VP balances the Republican ticket in many ways --
- Older and younger
- Man and women
- Legislator and executive
- Washington insider and outsider
The Dayton, Ohio theme of "Country First" trumps this "Change [to nowhere]" Obama chant.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 05:11 pm |
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She very well may be a great lady with an interesting background, and perhaps if nothing else this will launch an even broader career. I just think that in a debate with Biden she'll be destroyed.
It smacks of a desperation move by McCain, but it's still early.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:56 pm |
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Personally I think this was a great move! Watch out Obama! 
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:43 pm |
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| I just read on another list that she gave birth to a child with Downes Syndrome last spring. If this is fact, it tells me the lady has a lot of chutzpah and character. There are lots of folks in this day and time who would have chosen the 'easy' alternative to having a child with disabilities.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:40 pm |
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Sue, before her two years as Governor she was a small town Mayor. No reflection, but I don't consider that Vice Presidential qualifying experience.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:23 pm |
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shadow....
She has far more credentials than Obama with years of executive experience.
She helped run a real business, has held local and state offices for many years and if you dont think that is hard, try it sometime.
She comes from real people who live in a real world and dont expect government to do everything for them.
She is tough, has made real reforms in her state and hopefully will be allowed to do it at the federal level too.
I wouldnt speak too much about her "lack" of experience because all that does is highlight how little Obama has.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:15 pm |
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Pete Macinta wrote: LB writes...
I want to hear what they are going to do for this Country I agree.
Shadow writes ...
There is no why this woman is ready to be the President of the United States. She's far more ready than what Obama is.
God bless,
Pete
Pete . . Pete . . Pete
She's far more ready to be President than Obama? You can't be serious about that. Do you have to cross your fingers when you make statements like that?
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:12 pm |
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Guess Alaska needs another bridge to nowhere.
Just Kidding.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:12 pm |
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| It's an excellent pick. I love it. She'll help him a great deal. She is well respected by the GOP and will be very appealing to women.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:08 pm |
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LB writes...
I want to hear what they are going to do for this Country I agree.
Shadow writes ...
There is no why this woman is ready to be the President of the United States. She's far more ready than what Obama is.
God bless,
Pete
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:07 pm |
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| She is no less ready than the dem candidate for POTUS, who has a short time in the US Senate, and she has executive experience at the state level. She is the only one of the 4 with any executive experience in government.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:06 pm |
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SueCarol wrote: May not have been on the national stage for very long (but longer than Obama)
She's only been on a national radar since 2006. I'm not bashing her for it, just correcting that statement.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:03 pm |
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If I were a Dem I would be a little worried.
This is one tough lady who has some very good conservative principles.
May not have been on the national stage for very long (but longer than Obama) but she has been a council person, a mayor and a governor. She has good executive credentials.
She is married to a native american, has 5 children ( the youngest has Downes) and they say she knows how to stand up and fight.
I like her.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 04:01 pm |
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4Godncountry wrote: shadow wrote: It's the biggest political gamble in American history. I'm a very happy Democrat today.
You shouldn't be. She is 44 and Female. Many of Hillary's supporters, disenfranchised with the Democratic party, would be more than glad to have a female VP. She also brings more youthfulness than the Obama-Biden Ticket.
There is no why this woman is ready to be the President of the United States. John McCain is already 72 and would be the oldest person to ever be elected President. Youthfulness?
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 03:59 pm |
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| I have a copy of Triumph of the Will on DVD. I saw it in a college European History class years back. It, like last nite is a masterpiece, of propaganda. The only things missing in last nites extravaganza were shots of the guest of honor's airplane descending from the clouds, with the sun breaking thru as he alit from the plane and of course the torchlite parade. The setting and theatrics last nite outshone the speech, in which I heard nothing new, nothing concrete. It reminded me of the old saw, If you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with BS.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 03:57 pm |
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shadow wrote: It's the biggest political gamble in American history. I'm a very happy Democrat today.
think they said the same thing about agnew and quale?anyhow she supposed to be one smart lady.I wouldn'i want to be around Ms Clinton today.Now maybe both sides will hunker down and discuss the problems at hand and quit talking about Bush"I checked he;s no where on the ticket".I want to here what they are going to do for this Country and not what the other party is not going to do. Wrong never happen!
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 03:54 pm |
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CRIMECRUNCHER wrote: It reminded me of the 1934 Party Rally that Dr Goebbels and Leni Reifenstahl turned into the film Triumph of the Will, a propaganda masterpiece.
Come on now. Really? Have you ever even seen that? That's ridiculous.
Cross-party, some conservative commentators were even comparing it in bits to Reagan's speeches in their appeal.
It was a departure from eight years of using fear and anger to sell politics, and I welcomed it.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 03:53 pm |
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shadow wrote: It's the biggest political gamble in American history. I'm a very happy Democrat today.
You shouldn't be. She is 44 and Female. Many of Hillary's supporters, disenfranchised with the Democratic party, would be more than glad to have a female VP. She also brings more youthfulness than the Obama-Biden Ticket.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 03:51 pm |
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| Smart pick in a couple of respects. 1 she is the chief executive of a state, someone who has experience leading a government. 2 as a woman, she should be able to help convince many Hillary supporters to abandon the dems, as a fair percentage were talking about, and vote GOP.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 03:49 pm |
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| It's the biggest political gamble in American history. I'm a very happy Democrat today.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 03:47 pm |
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| I caught bits and pieces of the speech last nite, I didn't have the stomach for listening to it in its entireity. It reminded me of the 1934 Party Rally that Dr Goebbels and Leni Reifenstahl turned into the film Triumph of the Will, a propaganda masterpiece.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 03:43 pm |
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I don't see it making big gains for McCain. She'll be shredded by Biden, and after watching Obama last night, no matter how you feel about his party, I think when he goes side-by-side with McCain the latter will look like an outdated old man with yesterday's ideas. I could be wrong, but I think McCain's window was eight years ago.
Unfortunately, his own party absolutely burned him then.
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Posted: Fri Aug 29th, 2008 03:40 pm |
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| Why? Everybody happy with that?
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