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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 03:42 pm |
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This is nothing short of age discrimination.
Whether or not you think it's fair, age is an issue in this election. I happen to think McGrampy is borderline senile, but more to the point, he's old. That, statistically, makes it more likely he won't complete his term. That makes it the voter's problem to decide if they think that's worrisome or not.
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| It kind of hurts me to watch Senator McCain, though I believe in his message. I believe much of his problem is due to the woefully inadequate medical care he received while a POW. I know for instance that he cannot raise his arms above his head because they were both broken in the crash and then poorly treated in the Hanoi Hilton. However, like Steven Hawking, the brilliant physicist with severe disabilities, McCain's maltreatment does not seem to have affected his ability to think critically and accurately. The GOP cannot always nominate a great orator in the mold of Ronald Reagan.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 03:39 pm |
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Jlivin wrote: If you look good and say it smoothly enough, some people won't won't care if you spit on their head and tell them it's raining!
Is Obama a natural or did he learn it from Bill Clinton?
Yeah, an intelligent, thoughtful, well-spoken person is always someone you want to stay away from! We elect who we deserve. I just disagree with you in that I think we deserve someone better.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 03:36 pm |
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| Another fitting anecdote. My Grandfather used to say, it ain't what the package is wrapped in that counts, it's what's on the inside. Obama just doesn't have it on the inside.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 03:32 pm |
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If you look good and say it smoothly enough, some people won't won't care if you spit on their head and tell them it's raining!
Is Obama a natural or did he learn it from Bill Clinton?
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MacMom wrote: Maybe CC. But when McGrampy's handlers coat on the makeup so he looks alive, plaster down the hair and set him out there to read (badly) from the telepromptor, grimaces (I think it’s a smile) shows his yellow teeth, and tries to act like a real human being I don't get any sense that he's resonating with those who actually have paid attention the last eight years. And that's a lot of people.
This is nothing short of age discrimination. I am glad you would not be hiring me for a Job. All that glitters is not Gold. I think they used to call it fools gold...It looked like gold until you cashed it in. This pretty well sums up Obama.....Fools Gold.
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really....you gotta admit...that speech last night was pretty lame. He squinted at the telestrator the whole time....messed up words....said some things twice....it was like watching ron burgundy. "You stay classy san diego!"
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Maybe CC. But when McGrampy's handlers coat on the makeup so he looks alive, plaster down the hair and set him out there to read (badly) from the telepromptor, grimaces (I think it’s a smile) shows his yellow teeth, and tries to act like a real human being I don't get any sense that he's resonating with those who actually have paid attention the last eight years. And that's a lot of people.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 03:20 pm |
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| I didn't watch the interview, not interested in anything Obama has to say! Which is usually nothing anyway! Bill O Riley certainly is opinionated, but he does ask the right questions, and speaks his mind on the answers. I don't mind him.
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| I think it was Lincoln who said" You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time". BOH is trying to fool all of the people all of the time, but it isn't working. Charisma, and a good speech are not resonating with many who want to know from him where the substance is.
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Obama hasn't said he wasn't fair. He might feel that: I don't know. But what I saw was O'Reilly's usual, waving-his-hand-in-front-of-his-face, interrupting, blovial, pompous self-important interview. But that's just me.
Obama is going to win. Try to get used to the idea, so it doesn't come as such a surprise later.
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| Bill does not toss softballs at interviewees, he is known for asking hard questions. BUT even the Hillary Clinton camp said that he was fair to her in their interview. Osama ain't winning this election, he will be judged by the american voters and found wanting by a large enough margin to see that he returns to his seat in the Senate.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 02:53 pm |
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O'Reilly is not a news journalist, he's a vaudeville performer. He could care less about his guests, he just wants to hear his own voice, as evidenced by the fact that he never lets anyone complete a thought or sentence. He's a horrible man and an even bigger hypocrite.
I am so proud of Obama for not being intimidated by this Loser. In fact, it was obvious that he was amused by O'Reilly's antics, so I was additionally glad to see that knows what O'Reilly is. A joke.
Obama is going to win and perhaps we can begin to have faith in our government again. It's been a long 8 years...Last edited on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 02:56 pm by MacMom
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I had wanted to watch that interview but I ended up watching the football game instead.....
I'm sure it's on YouTube somewhere.
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| Anyone watch Osama last nite on O'Rielly? He was bobbin and weavin and duckin questions like Cassius Clay in his heyday. The rest of the interview, or should I say rounds 2,3 and 4 will be aired next week.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 01:48 pm |
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McGrampy's best shot is that the Republicans lost the trust of the people and have screwed up so badly that they got to go so the Republicans can move in and clean up the mess.
It's schizophrenic.
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Last night by coincidence I watched the last hour of 'Bobby'... as the chaos at the end was played out a speech was read, a speech that was so honest, moving and hopeful, I cried just thinking about where we are 40 years later. It was an incredibly moving and heart felt speech.
Then I turned on the RNC. Please, where is the barf bag? Obama is no Bobby Kennedy to be sure, but McMcain and company seemed like the devils themselves. I hope those 2 aren't the only ones with access to the "red button"... Change? When the nuclear cloud settles and the clan emerges from their underground bunkers, there will be change alright.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 06:49 am |
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And one more nugget to add the cherry on top of eight years of anti-intellectualism:
"Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin attended five colleges in six years before graduating from the University of Idaho in 1987."
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This lady's ambition is higher than her honesty. For one, the whole "I told Congress, 'thanks but no thanks on that bridge to nowhere.'" In reality, she supported this project early and often, only opting out at the last minute when she realized it was suddenly a political tie to an under-investigation Ted Stevens.
This breakdown is priceless (from andrewhalcro.com):
The real politics of the Bridge to Nowhere....
With all the debate surrounding the Bridge to Nowhere earmark, I offer you a campaign photo from 2006 when the Bridge to Nowhere was considered the Bridge to Somewhere by one candidate seeking votes from the people of Ketchikan.
"Palin said Alaska’s congressional delegation worked hard to obtain funding for the bridge as part of a package deal and that she 'would not stand in the way of the progress toward that bridge."
Ketchikan Daily News 9/2006
A year later she abruptly cancelled the funding.
“She didn't make the announcement here in Ketchikan. She didn't alert local mayors that she'd made the decision. She didn't notify Ketchikan's Representative or Senator, or even the Congressional delegation, apparently, that a decision was made and an announcement was on its way. No, the effective end of three decades of effort towards a bridge was announced in a press release launched – perhaps coincidentally – early in the day to meet the East Coast media deadlines.”
Ketchikan Daily News Editorial, 10/11/07 - on Palin's abrupt decisions to cancel the bridge funding by sending out a 5am press release to hit East Coast news cycles
The politics behind the flip flop...
Governor Sarah Palin's interview with Charlie Rose 10/12/07
CR: What was that highway Senator Stevens wanted to build?
SP: He wanted to build a bridge.
CR: You stopped that didn't you?
SP: Stopped that because we'll make sensible decisions using other peoples money, federal money, and we'll make some wise decisions on how to build up our infrastructure.
CR: Did you get any feedback on your decision?
SP: From those in Congress?
CR: Yes
SP: Yes I did, but Alaskans are supportive, again just to make some wise decisions with other peoples money.
The governor's decision was made just 6 weeks after U.S. Senator Ted Stevens Girdwood home was raided by the FBI and rumors were at a fever pitch that an indictment was soon to follow.
The reason for sending out the 5am press release was to hit east coast newscycles to gain maximum national attention for the move. The move garnered big news coverage nationwide.
According to the Associated Press, when she was running for governor in 2006, Palin said she was insulted by the term "bridge to nowhere," according to Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein, a Democrat, and Mike Elerding, a Republican who was Palin's campaign coordinator in the southeast Alaska city.
"People are learning that she pandered to us by saying, I'm for this' ... and then when she found it was politically advantageous for her nationally, abruptly she starts using the very term that she said was insulting," Weinstein said.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 04:48 am |
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I just watched Huckabee interviewed on The Daily Show. This will please you, 4GC, but while I disagree with a lot of his politics, I've always found him likeable and actually pretty funny. You've got to see a snippet Colbert did on his show that showed Huck's speech Wednesday, though. It does a sped-up editing to show how many times he said the word "desk" and it must've been about 40 as he was telling his story.
I bet even Huck laughed when he saw it on Colbert.
Hey, watching Ron Paul on Colbert ... I know my friend's dad is all about Paul. How do you all feel about him? Not as someone with a chance of winning, but just as a candidate overall?
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 04:43 am |
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| I noticed Liberal MSNBC broke camera away for the couple of Idiots in the crowd!
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| I think the UN thing is a conditioned response from politicians for foreign problems, just like on so many domestic ones they want to "throw money at it"
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 04:36 am |
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I didn't say it was, it just gave me a laugh. It wasn't anyone's "fault;" Chevron bought the slot, caculating it would be a good audience.
BTW, Daily Show just aired a clip of Giuliani, last night, ripping Obama about wanting the U.N. Security Council to deal with the Russia/Georgia situation. They followed it with a clip of McCain days earlier saying the exact same thing Obama did on Fox News.
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| THAT is the fault of the network, not the party.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 04:12 am |
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Oh my. Instants after the convention coverage wrapped up, what was the first commercial? -- Chevron. Good stuff.
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Stormkitty wrote: Gordy wrote: I would like to see Keith Olberman and Sean Hannity have a debate without a moderator.
That would be a great "Smackdown" for sure.
How about Ann Coulte.
Forget Ann Coulte she is old news. Nobody knows who she is at this point. She had her books etc in the 1998- 2002-2003. 2005. As of now she is a wash up.Last edited on Fri Sep 5th, 2008 03:13 am by pineknot
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Gosh , what about Madonna.
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Gordy wrote: I would like to see Keith Olberman and Sean Hannity have a debate without a moderator.
That would be a great "Smackdown" for sure.
How about Ann Coulter debating Arriana (sp?) Huffington?
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I would like to see Keith Olberman and Sean Hannity have a debate without a moderator.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 02:09 am |
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His show has almost become slightly serious, in that it mocks all the bs of the modern political system (and its accompanying "talking heads" on cable news) -- in quite an important way. It makes me cringe to think people take Sean Hannity and such seriously.
But the real genius is Colbert.
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scrapple wrote: The Daily Show finds lots of stuff on Democrats, too.
I like Jon Stewart. He's an equal opportunity offender........LOL
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The Daily Show finds lots of stuff on Democrats, too.
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| Funny stuff there Scrapple. Thanks for sharing. I did get a kick out of it. Fortunately, I form my own opinions and don't rely on talking heads from either side to do that for me. I think you could probably also find examples of double speak from the Dems as well.
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Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2008 01:18 am |
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Storm you owe it to yourself to watch this:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card
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CRIMECRUNCHER wrote: I listened to most of Rudy's and all of Gov Palin's speeches. I did not hear them engage in character assasination. Their jabs were aimed at record and accomplishments. I did hear some well placed shots at Harry Reid and the do nothing congress, and a zinger or two at the media. Niether of them rose to the level of vitriol that Gore had in his "Its time for them to go" address or that of the late lady gov of Texas who roasted George HW Bush in 1992.
I remember that speech from the Gov. of Texas. Ann Richards wasn't it? She was rough that night.
I like Gov. Palin. She delivered a very good speech. I am interested in seeing how she's going to do in the debate with Biden and also would like to see her answering questions off the cuff. I didn't hear any character assassinations either CC. I am a bit tired of hearing her criticized and questioned because she's a woman with 5 children. No one says anything about male politicians who have children. It looks to me as if she has a loving, supportive husband who is more than willing to pick up any slack. This may be a once in a lifetime opportunity for her and her family and she shouldn't be second guessed for it.
Also, to address the daughter's pregnancy, it should be a non-issue. I was pregnant myself at 17. My parents raised me right and in no way should they have been criticized for choices I made. I grew up real fast, as will Bristol. This is a very rough time for her, I know full well, and she should be left alone.
My two cents......or more......for what it's worth.
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| I listened to most of Rudy's and all of Gov Palin's speeches. I did not hear them engage in character assasination. Their jabs were aimed at record and accomplishments. I did hear some well placed shots at Harry Reid and the do nothing congress, and a zinger or two at the media. Niether of them rose to the level of vitriol that Gore had in his "Its time for them to go" address or that of the late lady gov of Texas who roasted George HW Bush in 1992.
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C.C. that could be said for both parties. You could name the NRA, the Christian Coalition, the oil industry, etc. for the right. And when it comes to corporations, many will fund both, hedging more toward the one who looks like it's more popular at the moment.
Mac is right, however. Last night's speeches, all of them, were about as vicious and hateful as I've seen from an official platform and that includes eight years of Bush. You in particular rant about the "hateful" and "character attacks" of the left, but the Repubs. have it down to a science.
I liked today that Obama said "that's what we expect from them." Let's hope the public has wisened after eight years of being browbeaten with fear to stop falling for it.
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| What about all the 'special interests that have a hand in running the dem party? The Brady bunch, NAACP, Gay Lesbian & Transgendered groups and the usual suspects in business and industry that contribute to both parties to get an audience nomatter who wins?
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Yeah, great smackdown: so she's capable of that. Big whoop.
All last night demonstrated was that 40 years of conservative politics have over time led to a mindset where a successful speech is not one that deals with issues, but speaks to the ugliest side of human nature. Last night was an ugly, sarcastic speech, with a great delivery. We'll see if that's what the country wants. So far, the answer is no.
It's going to be so sweet to leave the ugliness behind and begin working towards the common good of all, not just the special interests that control the Republican Party.
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Last night was very impressive.
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After the smackdown Palin put on the good ole Dems last night,im in love with her.
McCain/Palin 08
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PSALM 2008-2012
FIRST BOOK OF DEMOCRAT
OBAMA IS MY SHEPHERD,
I SHALL NOT WANT.
HE LEADETH ME BESIDE STILL FACTORIES.
HE RESTORETH MY FAITH IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
HE GUIDETH ME IN THE PATH OF UNEMPLOYMENT.
YEA, THOUGH I WALK THROUGHT THE VALLEY OF THE BREAD LINE,
I SHALL NOT GO HUNGRY.
OBAMA HAS ANOINTED MY INCOME WITH TAXES,
MY EXPENSES RUNNETH OVER MY INCOME,
SURELY, POVERTY AND HARD LIVING WILL FOLLOW ME ALL THE DAYS OF MY LIFE.
THE DEMOCRATS AND I WILL LIVE FOREVER
IN A RENTED HOME.
BUT I AM GLAD I AM AN AMERICAN,
I AM GLAD THAT I AM FREE.
BUT I WISH I WAS A DOG
AND OBAMA A TREE.
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"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."-- Barack Obama
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| This shouldnt offend anyone, or maybe everyone... Corn, it is not directed at you... Attachment: corn flakes.jpg (Downloaded 157 times)
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| None of us knows if we will'make it til November'. That said, the American way of changing leaders, unlike much of the world is by ballots not bullets
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Shhheeessshhh was it just me or did it seem quiet this morning...???
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rockfish2004 wrote: maybe odama won't make it till Nov.
ROCKFISH YOU ARE A PREJUDICE IDIOT!!!! When you wish bad things on people, something bad usually happens to you. Maybe you will get struck by lightning when the storm comes this weekend. Maybe YOU won't make it till election time!!!!!
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| Thanks for the change scrapple...
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| I can assure you Scrapple I am of no certain party in particular, it's just nasty plain and simple....sorry just my opinion for what it's worth.
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scrapple wrote: Really, we're that prudish when it comes to ol' Johnny? I've seen some pretty bad ones on the other side that were fine here in the name of satire. Or is it just because it goes against the perceived majority ...
Scrap, Satire is one thing, your on the front edge of vulgar with this one. I'm thinking if you don't remove it, you may need to get a new screen name when your banned.
It wont be me that reports you, but I guarantee that someone will.
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Really, we're that prudish when it comes to ol' Johnny? I've seen some pretty bad ones on the other side that were fine here in the name of satire. Or is it just because it goes against the perceived majority ...
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