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Posted: Wed Jun 4th, 2008 08:26 pm |
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Hussein wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books ' his words:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance
and animosity against my mothers race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There was something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men
whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,
the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Publication history for 'From Dreams of My Father'
New York: Times Books; 1st edition (July 18, 1995); Hardcover: 403 pages; ISBN 0-8129-2343-X
This printing is now very rare. Only a few signed copies are known, and are estimated to be worth up to $5,000 (depending on condition).
New York: Kodansha International (August 1996); Paperback: 403 pages; ISBN 1-5683-6162-9
New York: Three Rivers Press; Reprint edition (August 10, 2004); Paperback: 480 pages; ISBN 1-4000-8277-3
New York: Random House Audio; Abridged edition (May 3, 2005); Audio CD; ISBN 0-7393-2100-5; Includes the senator's speech from the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
New York: Random House Large Print; 1st Large print edition (April 4, 2006); Hardcover: 720 pages; ISBN 0-7393-2576-0
New York: Crown Publishers (January 9, 2007); Hardcover: 464 pages; ISBN 0-3073-8341-5
New York: Random House (January 9, 2007); Format: eBook; ISBN 0-3073-9412-3
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If you liked the first one, you'll love this one:
1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had
4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.
5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.
6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.
7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.
8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).
9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.
10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.
11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.
12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.
< /B>13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.
14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist
15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.
16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.
17.) Oops, I Mis-voted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your mis-vote.
18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.
20.) Without Me, There Would B e No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.
21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.
22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.
23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.
24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.
25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.
26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.
27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.
28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.
29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.
30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.
31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.
32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.
33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.
34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.
35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.
36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.
37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.
38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.
39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
40.) I don't Have Lobbyists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.
41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.
42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.
43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words.
44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.
46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.
47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.
48) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.
49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife's words follow lock-step in the vain of Wright and Farrakhan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.
50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 11:45 pm |
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This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books ' his words:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance
and animosity against my mothers race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There wa s something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men
whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,
the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Publication history for 'From Dreams of My Father'
New York: Times Books; 1st edition (July 18, 1995); Hardcover: 403 pages; ISBN 0-8129-2343-X
This printing is now very rare. Only a few signed copies are known, and are estimated to be worth up to $5,000 (depending on condition).
New York: Kodansha International (August 1996); Paperback: 403 pages; ISBN 1-5683-6162-9
New York: Three Rivers Press; Reprint edition (August 10, 2004); Paperback: 480 pages; ISBN 1-4000-8277-3
New York: Random House Audio; Abridged edition (May 3, 2005); Audio CD; ISBN 0-7393-2100-5; Includes the senator's speech from the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
New York: Random House Large Print; 1st Large print edition (April 4, 2006); Hardcover: 720 pages; ISBN 0-7393-2576-0
New York: Crown Publishers (January 9, 2007); Hardcover: 464 pages; ISBN 0-3073-8341-5
New York: Random House (January 9, 2007); Format: eBook; ISBN 0-3073-9412-3
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 10:42 pm |
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Arizonette wrote: The question is . . . would you be a racist if you voted for Hussein only becasue he was black?
This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books ' his words:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance
and animosity against my mothers race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There wa s something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men
whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,
the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Publication history for 'From Dreams of My Father'
New York: Times Books; 1st edition (Arizonette
Look, this is something you cut and pasted from the Internet and, although it sounds sensational, it's bulls**t. People like you who spread half-truths are very dangerous because some people actually believe the BS that you are spreading.
Do you actually have Obama's book, "From Audacity of Hope"? Somebody took a quote out of context, tweaked it just a bit, and put it out on the Internet for people like you to spread poison.
I am not going to go through each quote and explain it to you, but since you seen to be hanging your whole silly argument on this last quote, let's examine it. You say it says:
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
It doesn't say that at all. This is what it actually says. Actually buy the book and look it up for yourself:
The actual quote from the book is from page 261 and is
as follows: "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant
communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings
with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent
quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard
stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and
belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in
this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances
that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned
the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II,
and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an
ugly direction."
You make it appear that he is promising to side with Bin Laden if the political winds should shift. All he is saying that Arab and Pakistani American citizens have the right to the same protections under the Constitution as anybody else and does not want to happen what happened to Japanese-Americans in World War II. It is clear that Senator Obama did not use the term “Muslims,” anywhere in the paragraph. He was referring to American Arabs and Pakistanis, in general, thousands of whom have resided in this country for decades. Some have fought and defended this country in uniform. Some may be Muslim, some may be Christian.
Idiots all around us......Is frightening sometimes....
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 12:20 am |
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Took awhile for Hussein to make a very important decision, . . . . Glad he wasn't at the helm on Pearl Harbor Day!
Obama Resigns From Trinity Church
Posted by Dean Reynolds
From CBS News’ Dean Reynolds:
CHICAGO
Barack Obama has formally resigned from his church, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.
It had to have been a painful decision, as Obama just cut the line to his religious anchor, but the church had become a weapon for his political enemies. The Trinity Church was the place Obama called his religious home. A place where he was married. Where his children were baptized. Where he was friends with the congregation and its minister, Jeremiah Wright.
When Obama came to Chicago his religious devotion was spotty. His family was not devout. His father, who left the family when Obama was two, was a non-practicing Muslim. So as Obama began his work as a community organizer on the city's South Side he became acquainted with the leaders of neighborhoods. And they were often preachers. Indeed, Obama tells a story of how he was admonished once that if he wanted to be effective with churchgoers in his adopted city, he might do well to join one of those churches.
And so he joined Trinity United.
By all accounts, he was not religious about attending. He says he never heard the incendiary remarks that Wright made infamous, with help from YouTube. Obama was not present when Rev. Michael Pfleger, the pastor of St. Sabina's Catholic Church, offered up his inflammatory comments last Sunday at the same pulpit from which Wright – now retired – once spoke.
Campaign spokesperson, Robert Gibbs, confirmed to the traveling press this evening that Michelle and Barack Obama have “left the church.”
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Posted: Sat May 31st, 2008 04:22 pm |
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This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books ' his words:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance
and animosity against my mothers race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There wa s something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men
whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,
the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Publication history for 'From Dreams of My Father'
New York: Times Books; 1st edition (July 18, 1995); Hardcover: 403 pages; ISBN 0-8129-2343-X
This printing is now very rare. Only a few signed copies are known, and are estimated to be worth up to $5,000 (depending on condition).
New York: Kodansha International (August 1996); Paperback: 403 pages; ISBN 1-5683-6162-9
New York: Three Rivers Press; Reprint edition (August 10, 2004); Paperback: 480 pages; ISBN 1-4000-8277-3
New York: Random House Audio; Abridged edition (May 3, 2005); Audio CD; ISBN 0-7393-2100-5; Includes the senator's speech from the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
New York: Random House Large Print; 1st Large print edition (April 4, 2006); Hardcover: 720 pages; ISBN 0-7393-2576-0
New York: Crown Publishers (January 9, 2007); Hardcover: 464 pages; ISBN 0-3073-8341-5
New York: Random House (January 9, 2007); Format: eBook; ISBN 0-3073-9412-3
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 03:36 pm |
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| Lefty, You got this all wrong. She is not the typical conservative manure spreader. She is as far to the right as you are to the left. You both spread your manure so far to each side, the middle (class) can't grow their own corn because you both hog all the manure. Too bad neither of you can see where the truth is. (it's closer to the middle than you think)
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 06:22 am |
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Arizonette-
You are a typical Conservative manure spreader, you repeat the same old worn out crap over and over trying to convince the public into believing your lies and B.S. Give it up, Bush's puppet McClone don't stand a snowballs chance in hell winning the election. Unless "W" teaches him how to cheat and get away with it like he did. The majority of American voters, no matter what side of the fence they are sittin on, are smarter than you think.
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Posted: Thu May 29th, 2008 05:14 pm |
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This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books ' his words:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance
and animosity against my mothers race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There wa s something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men
whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,
the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Publication history for 'From Dreams of My Father'
New York: Times Books; 1st edition (July 18, 1995); Hardcover: 403 pages; ISBN 0-8129-2343-X
This printing is now very rare. Only a few signed copies are known, and are estimated to be worth up to $5,000 (depending on condition).
New York: Kodansha International (August 1996); Paperback: 403 pages; ISBN 1-5683-6162-9
New York: Three Rivers Press; Reprint edition (August 10, 2004); Paperback: 480 pages; ISBN 1-4000-8277-3
New York: Random House Audio; Abridged edition (May 3, 2005); Audio CD; ISBN 0-7393-2100-5; Includes the senator's speech from the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
New York: Random House Large Print; 1st Large print edition (April 4, 2006); Hardcover: 720 pages; ISBN 0-7393-2576-0
New York: Crown Publishers (January 9, 2007); Hardcover: 464 pages; ISBN 0-3073-8341-5
New York: Random House (January 9, 2007); Format: eBook; ISBN 0-3073-9412-3
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Posted: Thu May 29th, 2008 03:43 pm |
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| I think Stupidette is annoying everyone, just like her candidate McBush! I think everyone should ignore her posts until she starts engaging in legit conversation. Last edited on Thu May 29th, 2008 03:46 pm by surprisemotherof2
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The question is . . . would you be a racist if you voted for Hussein only becasue he was black?
This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books ' his words:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance
and animosity against my mothers race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There wa s something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men
whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,
the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Publication history for 'From Dreams of My Father'
New York: Times Books; 1st edition (July 18, 1995); Hardcover: 403 pages; ISBN 0-8129-2343-X
This printing is now very rare. Only a few signed copies are known, and are estimated to be worth up to $5,000 (depending on condition).
New York: Kodansha International (August 1996); Paperback: 403 pages; ISBN 1-5683-6162-9
New York: Three Rivers Press; Reprint edition (August 10, 2004); Paperback: 480 pages; ISBN 1-4000-8277-3
New York: Random House Audio; Abridged edition (May 3, 2005); Audio CD; ISBN 0-7393-2100-5; Includes the senator's speech from the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
New York: Random House Large Print; 1st Large print edition (April 4, 2006); Hardcover: 720 pages; ISBN 0-7393-2576-0
New York: Crown Publishers (January 9, 2007); Hardcover: 464 pages; ISBN 0-3073-8341-5
New York: Random House (January 9, 2007); Format: eBook; ISBN 0-3073-9412-3
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| yay you're back with the same post. Just curious, do you think this stuff works? Or are you just being a racist?
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This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books ' his words:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance
and animosity against my mothers race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There wa s something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men
whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,
the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Publication history for 'From Dreams of My Father'
New York: Times Books; 1st edition (July 18, 1995); Hardcover: 403 pages; ISBN 0-8129-2343-X
This printing is now very rare. Only a few signed copies are known, and are estimated to be worth up to $5,000 (depending on condition).
New York: Kodansha International (August 1996); Paperback: 403 pages; ISBN 1-5683-6162-9
New York: Three Rivers Press; Reprint edition (August 10, 2004); Paperback: 480 pages; ISBN 1-4000-8277-3
New York: Random House Audio; Abridged edition (May 3, 2005); Audio CD; ISBN 0-7393-2100-5; Includes the senator's speech from the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
New York: Random House Large Print; 1st Large print edition (April 4, 2006); Hardcover: 720 pages; ISBN 0-7393-2576-0
New York: Crown Publishers (January 9, 2007); Hardcover: 464 pages; ISBN 0-3073-8341-5
New York: Random House (January 9, 2007); Format: eBook; ISBN 0-3073-9412-3
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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 05:39 am |
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| you've got the cut and paste down. Now try quoting him correctly and with proper context. Can you do it? My guess is no. Lying is more interesting.
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This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books ' his words:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance
and animosity against my mothers race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There wa s something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men
whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,
the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Publication history for 'From Dreams of My Father'
New York: Times Books; 1st edition (July 18, 1995); Hardcover: 403 pages; ISBN 0-8129-2343-X
This printing is now very rare. Only a few signed copies are known, and are estimated to be worth up to $5,000 (depending on condition).
New York: Kodansha International (August 1996); Paperback: 403 pages; ISBN 1-5683-6162-9
New York: Three Rivers Press; Reprint edition (August 10, 2004); Paperback: 480 pages; ISBN 1-4000-8277-3
New York: Random House Audio; Abridged edition (May 3, 2005); Audio CD; ISBN 0-7393-2100-5; Includes the senator's speech from the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
New York: Random House Large Print; 1st Large print edition (April 4, 2006); Hardcover: 720 pages; ISBN 0-7393-2576-0
New York: Crown Publishers (January 9, 2007); Hardcover: 464 pages; ISBN 0-3073-8341-5
New York: Random House (January 9, 2007); Format: eBook; ISBN 0-3073-9412-3
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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 02:36 am |
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You must be mentally handicapped Arizonette. Sorry to hear that. Read snopes, I've posted it all over this forum post.
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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 02:31 am |
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Our New Leader? Snope does not catagorically sat "False", some truth, some taken out of context. But all need to be heard by all including the non-believer leftist.

This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books ' his words:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance
and animosity against my mothers race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There wa s something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men
whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,
the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Publication history for 'From Dreams of My Father'
New York: Times Books; 1st edition (July 18, 1995); Hardcover: 403 pages; ISBN 0-8129-2343-X
This printing is now very rare. Only a few signed copies are known, and are estimated to be worth up to $5,000 (depending on condition).
New York: Kodansha International (August 1996); Paperback: 403 pages; ISBN 1-5683-6162-9
New York: Three Rivers Press; Reprint edition (August 10, 2004); Paperback: 480 pages; ISBN 1-4000-8277-3
New York: Random House Audio; Abridged edition (May 3, 2005); Audio CD; ISBN 0-7393-2100-5; Includes the senator's speech from the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
New York: Random House Large Print; 1st Large print edition (April 4, 2006); Hardcover: 720 pages; ISBN 0-7393-2576-0
New York: Crown Publishers (January 9, 2007); Hardcover: 464 pages; ISBN 0-3073-8341-5
New York: Random House (January 9, 2007); Format: eBook; ISBN 0-3073-9412-3
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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 02:19 am |
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Ok here it is, word for word from snopes. Now tell me who's lying? This is each of the comments that Arizonette keeps posting over and over in hopes you'll buy it broken down into their full context. One of the supposed comments linked to Obama weren't even written by Obama at all. To me, that's deception. Snopes doesn't call it lying but it's still misleading and they clearly say that. Quit lying Arizonette. If you don't like the guy, fine. But stick to the facts!
I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites. This statement comes from the introduction to Dreams from My Father (p. xv), as part of a passage in which Barack Obama spoke of the difficulties of growing up as the child of mixed-race parents. The statement is actually a portion of a parenthetical remark Obama used to explain that people who did not know him well were often surprised to find that he himself was the child of mixed-raced parents (because he looked black, and he no longer made a point of gratuitously mentioning that his mother was white): [W]hat strikes me most when I think about the story of my family is a running strain of innocence, an innocence that seems unimaginable, even by the measures of childhood. My wife's cousin, only six years old, has already lost such innocence. A few weeks ago he reported to his parents that some of his first grade classmates had refused to play with him because of his dark, unblemished skin. Obviously his parents, born and raised in Chicago and Gary, lost their own innocence long ago, and although they aren't bitter — the two of them being as strong and proud and resourceful as any parents I know — one hears the pain in their voices as they begin to have second thoughts about having moved out of the city into a mostly white suburb, a move they made to protect their son from the possibility of being caught in a gang shooting and the certainty of attending an underfunded school.
They know too much, we have all seen too much, to take my parents' brief union — a black man and a white woman, an African and an American — at face value. When people who don't know me well, black or white, discover my background (and it is usually a discovery, for I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect I was ingratiating myself to whites), I see the split-second adjustments they have to make, the searching of my eyes for some telltale sign. They no longer know who I am. I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race. No such sentence (nor anything close to it) appears anywhere in either Dreams from My Father or The Audacity of Hope. This statement was taken from a March 2007 article about Barack Obama; they are not Obama's own words, but rather those of the article's author (recast in the first person): In reality, Obama provides a disturbing test of the best-case scenario of whether America can indeed move beyond race. He inherited his father’s penetrating intelligence; was raised mostly by his loving liberal white grandparents in multiracial, laid-back Hawaii, where America’s normal race rules never applied; and received a superb private school education. And yet, at least through age 33 when he wrote Dreams from My Father, he found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against his mother's race. There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white. This statement comes from page 142 of Dreams of My Father, as part of a passage in which Barack Obama was being interviewed by a man named Marty Kaufman for a position as a community organizer in Chicago. Kaufman was specifically looking for a black man to work with him, because he was white and needed someone to help him appeal to both sides in a racially polarized city. The statement reproduced above creates a false impression by eliding the ending to the final sentence: Obama makes reference (in his expression of misgivings) to Kaufman's whiteness being a problem, because Kaufman himself had said it was a problem: I had all but given up on organizing when I received a call from Marty Kaufman. He explained that he'd started an organizing drive in Chicago and was looking to hire a trainee. He'd be in New York the following week and suggested that we meet at a coffee shop on Lexington.
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appearance didn't inspire much confidence. He was a white man of medium height wearing a rumpled suit over a pudgy frame. His face was heavy with two-day-old whiskers; behind a pair of thick, wire-rimmed glasses, his eyes seemed set in a perpetual squint. As he rose from the booth to shake my hand, he spilled some tea on his shirt ...
He ordered more hot water and told me about himself. He was Jewish, in his late thirties, had been reared in New York. He had started organizing in the sixties with the student protests, and ended up staying with it for fifteen years. Farmers in Nebraska. Blacks in Philadelphia. Mexicans in Chicago. Now he was trying to pull urban blacks and suburban whites together around a plan to save manufacturing jobs in metropolitan Chicago. He needed somebody to work with him, he said. Somebody black.
[ ...]
He offered to start me off at ten thousand dollars the first year, with a two-thousand-dollar travel allowance to buy a car; the salary would go up if things worked out. After he was gone, I took the long way home, along the East River promenade, and tried to figure out what to make of the man. He was smart, I decided. He seemed committed to his work. Still, there was something about him that made me wary. A little too sure of himself, maybe. And white — he'd said himself that that was a problem. It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names. This sentence appears on page 101 of Dreams of My Father, as part of a long passage in which Barack Obama talked about his time at Occidental College in Los Angeles. It was another expression of a theme touched on in many other sections of the book — the difficulties of being expected to associate oneself with a particular racial heritage, especially for those who came from multiracial backgrounds — prompted by the example of a girl named Joyce, one of Obama's classmates: She was a good-looking woman, Joyce was with her green eyes and honey skin and pouty lips. We lived in the same dorm my freshman year, and all the brothers were after her. One day I asked her if she was going to the Black Students' Association meeting. She looked at me funny, then started shaking her head like a baby who doesn't want what it sees on the spoon.
"I'm not black," Joyce said. "I'm multiracial." Then she started telling me about her father, who happened to be Italian and was the sweetest man in the world; and her mother, who happened to be part African and part French and part Native American and part something else. "Why should I have to choose between them?" she asked me. Her voice cracked, and I thought she was going to cry. "It's not white people who are making me choose. Maybe it used to be that way, but now they're willing to treat me like a person. No — it's black people who always have to make everything racial. They're the ones making me choose. They're the ones who are telling me that I can't be who I am ..."
They, they, they. That was the problem with people like Joyce. They talked about the richness of their multicultural heritage and it sounded real good, until you noticed that they avoided black people ...
To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling conventions. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated.
But this strategy alone couldn't provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerant. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names. I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela. This statement is a rewording (two separate sentences have been conflated into one, further changing an intended meaning already obscured by the lack of context) of material from page 220 of Dreams of My Father. The material appears as part of a passage in which Barack Obama describes his profound disappointment in learning (from information provided by his half-sister, Auma) that the lofty image he had held all his life of his role model, his biological father (a man he barely knew, because Barack's father had left him and his mother when Barack was just two years old, and Barack had only seen his father once since then), was a flawed, idealized one. All my life, I had carried a single image of my father, one that I had sometimes rebelled against but had never questioned, one that I had later tried to take as my own. The brilliant scholar, the generous friend, the upstanding leader — my father had been all those things. All those things and more, because except for that one brief visit in Hawaii, he had never been present to foil the image, because I hadn't see what perhaps most men see at some point in their lives: their father's body shrinking, their father's best hopes dashed, their father's face lined with grief and regret.
Yes, I'd seen weakness in other men — Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo [my adoptive father] and his compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela. And if later I saw that the black men I knew fell short of such lofty standards; if I had learned to respect these men for the struggles they went through, recognizing them as my own — my father's voice had nevertheless remained untainted, inspiring, rebuking, granting or withholding approval. You do not work hard enough, Barry. You must help in your people's struggle. Wake up, black man!
Now, as I sat in the glow of a single light bulb, rocking slightly on a hard-backed chair, that image had suddenly vanished. Replaced by ... what? A bitter drunk? An abusive husband? A defeated, lonely bureaucrat? To think that all my life I had been wrestling with nothing more than a ghost! I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. This statement is a rewording of a passage from page 261 of The Audacity of Hope, in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American citizens, or placed into confinement, as was done with Japanese-Americans during World War II. The original contains no specific mention of "Muslims": In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
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Reliable sources say that is really SurpriseMuther' and now we know BigShow is a misnomer . . . Where you this outraged at Clinton over Lewinsky? Or Kerry about his medals? What about Billary ducking and swooping from snipers?
Or do you just defend selectively?
Our New Leader? Snope does not catagorically sat "False", some truth, some taken out of context. But all need to be heard by all including the non-believer leftist.

This guy wants to be our President and control our government. Pay close attention to the last comment!! Below are a few lines from Obama's books ' his words:
From Dreams of My Father: 'I ceased to advertise my mother's race
at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so
I was ingratiating myself to whites.'
From Dreams of My Father : 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance
and animosity against my mothers race.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'There wa s something about him that made me wary,
a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.'
From Dreams of My Father: ; 'It remained necessary to prove which side you were on,
to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.'
From Dreams of My Father: 'I never emulate white men and brown men
whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man,
son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself,
the attributes of Martin and Malcolm,
DuBois and Mandela.'
From Audacity of Hope: 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."
Publication history for 'From Dreams of My Father'
New York: Times Books; 1st edition (July 18, 1995); Hardcover: 403 pages; ISBN 0-8129-2343-X
This printing is now very rare. Only a few signed copies are known, and are estimated to be worth up to $5,000 (depending on condition).
New York: Kodansha International (August 1996); Paperback: 403 pages; ISBN 1-5683-6162-9
New York: Three Rivers Press; Reprint edition (August 10, 2004); Paperback: 480 pages; ISBN 1-4000-8277-3
New York: Random House Audio; Abridged edition (May 3, 2005); Audio CD; ISBN 0-7393-2100-5; Includes the senator's speech from the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
New York: Random House Large Print; 1st Large print edition (April 4, 2006); Hardcover: 720 pages; ISBN 0-7393-2576-0
New York: Crown Publishers (January 9, 2007); Hardcover: 464 pages; ISBN 0-3073-8341-5
New York: Random House (January 9, 2007); Format: eBook; ISBN 0-3073-9412-3
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c
Thanks Big Show, that's an awesome site!
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Posted: Tue May 27th, 2008 12:49 am |
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Instead of lies, try the truth this time. You've posted the same thing all day. You don't have anything else in your magic purse do you?
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Posted: Tue May 27th, 2008 12:44 am |
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Where you this outraged at Clinton over Lewinsky? Or Kerry about his medals? What about Billary ducking and swooping from snipers?
Or do you just defend selectively?
Our New Leader? Snope does not catagorically sat "False", some truth, some taken out of context. But all need to be heard by all including the non-believer leftist.
Keep on posting here, it's the attention that is important!
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