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Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 12:42 pm |
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NOPE, AVERY STILL HAS IT WRONG, THE CLUB ISSUED THE SUMMONS TO COURT LAST YEAR JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS TO THE ALMOST 40 HOME OWNERS. SOME PAID, SOME DEFAULTED, SOME FOUGHT BACK. NOW TRY TO DISTORT THAT!
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" Our law suit" as you put it cost the Club nothing? Isn't that like saying pushing the first rock down the hill didn't start the landslide? Enablers are sometimes as much a part of the issue as the participants! Along with insurance rates going up ( we know why ) and encouragement by your group the issue went the direction it did!
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averymatte wrote: Dorothy
Please, you are just continuing to embarass yourself with your false accusations and distorted rantings about the community! The worst part about your position is that you are decieving a few old, sick and many times vulnerable folks.
A fine example" the latest candy gram" there are people calling the club and thinking it is the CLUB'S gram. Little do they know it is led by the same group of people that have challenged the mandatory membership ( and lost ) and have cost the community $60+ thousand and you mention lawyers fees. Whats next, confuse a few more of the elderly to get then to sue the CLUB under another claim and cause them to lose the equity in their houses, cost your neighbors even more money!
You mentioned the 55+ overlay, you have no idea what time goes into that ( by volunteers ) to abide by the law to maintain the status. We know that you really don't care if it is maintained by your staements over the years.
Fool us once shame on us, fool us twice NO WAY! Dear Avery: I quote "The same group of people that have challenged the mandatory membership (and lost) and have cost the community $60,000.+" Now, Avery dear...the truth is that as far as The Citizen has reported thus far, our group...are you referring to Concerned Citizens?...has cost the community nothing! Nada! Zip! The Insurance paid for the legal representation for the club during our lawsuit...in which we were seeking an injunction to stop the club from from attaching SADR to all our Deeds. The club, according to the Citizen dated January 8, 2008 reports legal fees of 77, 944.08...this is for the 40 lawsuits the club filed against 40 DV homeowners...an action to which neither the Ehningers nor myself were a party. Got it now???? Dorothy7
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Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2008 01:31 pm |
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Readers Dorothy entered;
Tue Nov 27th. 2007 7:28 am
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I forgot to add...Klump? Klump? Klump? What's that? Nazi jack boots? Jaws? A lawyer who has found a legal way to assinate old, or disabled people and take their homes? Dorothy 7.
PS. Got an interesting case off the internet Court site, of a disabled lady...dead by drowning in a Motel pool where she was living after Maxwell foreclosed on her home and sold it. What became of her equity? Hmmm? How long are you going to put up with this? Her name is Sabina Prioletta...(cv2005-091703) Look it up.
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The Board felt it was important to respond to her attempt to decieve! The delay was to research the facts.
Fact: " Miss Prioletta did not lose her property - she paid the judgment amount and the suit was dismissed in 7/06 "
Another fact that was not mentioned " the case has nothing to do with the DVCC community "!
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Posted: Thu Jan 3rd, 2008 01:12 pm |
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Dorothy
Please, you are just continuing to embarass yourself with your false accusations and distorted rantings about the community! The worst part about your position is that you are decieving a few old, sick and many times vulnerable folks.
A fine example" the latest candy gram" there are people calling the club and thinking it is the CLUB'S gram. Little do they know it is led by the same group of people that have challenged the mandatory membership ( and lost ) and have cost the community $60+ thousand and you mention lawyers fees. Whats next, confuse a few more of the elderly to get then to sue the CLUB under another claim and cause them to lose the equity in their houses, cost your neighbors even more money!
You mentioned the 55+ overlay, you have no idea what time goes into that ( by volunteers ) to abide by the law to maintain the status. We know that you really don't care if it is maintained by your staements over the years.
Fool us once shame on us, fool us twice NO WAY!
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Dear Avery: You are coming unglued old boy. I am in fact in a voluntary section. I have chosen to pay my dues precisely to protect my property from the Board's attempt to seize controlling interest in it.
The gun to the head is in every home in the MANDATORY SECTIONS. I have wondered why no one of them has ever filed a lawsuit disputing the legality of this little old social club forcing less than half the sections to pay for all 18? You realize that if the club gets in a tight squeeze, it could assess only those in the Mandatory Sections? None of the voluntary Sections would be required to pay.
The legal description of an association or planned community is that at the time of development every resident is required to be a member. Hmmmm????
Exactly what benefits to the homeowners is the club required to give? Cut the weeds? Maintain the streets? Repair the sidewalks, curbs and gutters? Pay for the trash pick up, fire protection, or water? Nope.
Are they under any requirement to file for the Senior Overlay every tenth year? Nope.
Exactly what is required of them for the "mandatory dues"?
All these benefits are normally provided by an HOA. For $100.00 bucks a year per person in the household, you get a phone book, if the club chooses to print one...even that is not required. Another rip off of the elderly, dying, and poor widows and widowers who are caught in this mess created by, and sustained by your nasty little club who expels anyone who asks them any questions.
Like, how much have they paid their lawyer with our money to do this to us? If you call the Board President she will "talk to you". Hmmmm????? Dorothy
More lawsuits? More legal fees?
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Posted: Tue Jan 1st, 2008 06:33 pm |
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I myself have gotten pieces of paper thrown in my yard, hung on my door, slipped into the screendoor having to do with yard work, cable tv, painting my address, fitness gyms and this is all ok but a small baggie with a piece of candy and a notice about a yard sale isn't?
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Posted: Tue Jan 1st, 2008 02:47 pm |
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AND THAT REALLY WORKS. ANY OF US GET HANGERS ON OUR DOORS ?? THE BIGGEST GARBAGE PILE IN THE VILLA IS THE CLUB AND THE HORRIBLE JUNK THEY HAVE DUMPED ON THE RESIDENTS. ANYWAY YOU PILE IT OR STIR IT , IT STINKS!!!
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Posted: Tue Jan 1st, 2008 02:47 pm |
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AND THAT REALLY WORKS. ANY OF US GET HANGERS ON OUR DOORS ?? THE BIGGEST GARBAGE PILE IN THE VILLA IS THE CLUB AND THE HORRIBLE JUNK THEY HAVE DUMPED ON THE RESIDENTS. ANYWAY YOU PILE IT OR STIR IT , IT STINKS!!!
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Posted: Tue Jan 1st, 2008 12:34 pm |
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Mr R
I don't like garbage of any kind, spoken or baggies thrown in my yard. FYI most of Sherriff s signs at most entrances state "No Soliciting or hand bills" !
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Posted: Mon Dec 31st, 2007 12:54 pm |
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AVERY WHATEVER,
OH SUCH SOUR GRAPES AND JUST EXACTLY WHAT LAW WAS BROKEN? THE POSTING ON THE RUSTY OLD SIGNS THAT DECLARE NIGHTMARE VILLA A 55 PLUS COMMUNITY ? THAT POSTING ? HUMM MUST BE LAWFUL IF IT IS POSTED ? SO YOU DON'T LIKE OUR BAGGIES, TOUGH.
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Posted: Mon Dec 31st, 2007 12:23 pm |
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how can you be spouting the truth when you say that a gun is put at your head for your money when you have been to the office trying to pay your dues? and you aren't in a volunteer section yet! you say the residents didn't vote to approve anything, that is true. they approved it by signature ( which the court said was done properly )!
now there is another group illegaly ( signs posted ) soliciting funds and donations for a garage sale under the decietful guise of being concerned for OUR PROPERTY! Cluttering the streets with baggies with candy as weight. A grandchild could get a hold of it, eat the candy, nobody knows who touched it or if it was tampered with! Nice going VICKI W.
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Avery...quit trying to sell a rotten product...it stinks to 'high Heaven'...and listen to what you are 'preaching'...& pay attention to whom you are trying to 'preach' to...most of us have been around the block a time or two...have smelled a lot of 'rotten' schemes in our travels...they all end up smelling the same...'greedy'...follow the 'money'...who is going to be the recipient of ALL of this 'extra money'...Do you need 3 guesses...or do you want me to wait for a few moments...
'Comunism'...where every one pays for a select few's special priveledges...and they 'blindly keep paying'...and paying...& paying...FOREVER!!!...even thru the next generations...by the way, I have 'kids' old enough to retire already...and they are not going to pay...& neither am I...I have 2 lawyers in my immediate family, more in the extended family...I bought/moved into this neighborhood because it was quiet, clean, & 'stable'...now you 'do-gooders' are forcing me to start looking for other property...BEFORE...the prices start falling here...as they surely will...there is a verry old 'adage', "Watch out for what you wish for...you may get it!"...ct
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Posted: Sun Dec 30th, 2007 03:13 pm |
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Dorothy,
You are dueling with an unarmed person in Avery, their thought process defies any logic in the Universe. They like many others think it is just find and dandy for a non profit social club to force it's will on the community. That and their hired dogs biting at our heels, make it not a nice place to be under the guise of the bingo, pot lucks and wonderful shows at the Hall. Gee if they could step back and look in the mirror what would they see? Humm a bunch of greedy money hungry mongers that really don't give a darn for any one but their wallets.
Party on Dudes
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Posted: Sun Dec 30th, 2007 03:03 pm |
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Let me see. If you put a gun to my head I will hand you my wallet because I want to abide by your rules? Hmmmmmmmmmmm? I wondered what kind of tortured logic you use to sooth your conscience. No majority voted to do anything in Dreamland Villa. How could they vote for something they'd never seen? Can you spell TRUTH?
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Posted: Sat Dec 29th, 2007 12:22 pm |
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you stated
(PS) I forgot to mention that less than half the Sections are victims of mandatory dues. You savvy that? Dorothy7
I say "the majority of the residents of those sections approved mandatory membership" and when their dues become mandatory a majority will abide by the rules. That is how most people live!
Can you spell sour grapes?
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| Avery: (PS) I forgot to mention that less than half the Sections are victims of mandatory dues. You savvy that? Dorothy7
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Dear Avery:
What became of the promises that "We will keep our Constitution and Bylaws" (Maryanne Glauner, President DVCC) and "Though there are some characteristics of an association, DVCC will not be an association. This is an important distinction. All enforcement will be at the discretion of the Board." (James Cole, DVCC President) "I give you my word that we will be the same club. Nothing will change. The Board has full discretioin in enforcing any of the terms of the Amendments." etc. etc. etc. Then, the final outrageous lie. "DVCC will NEVER LIEN DREAMLAND PROPERTY." From the President's Desk...The Citizen.
Motion by Jim Quinn, to write a letter to all Dreamland residents telling them what we are doing.
Motion to table that Motion by Jim Cook, because it was "premature". You remember getting that letter? Me either.
Fast forward to: Health cannot have an affect on the enforcement of the "New CC&Rs...." The club has to enforce the terms of the New CC&Rs...it's the law.
I will remind you Avery, that your excuses sound eerily like those put forward by the dispicable rationalizations of every tin pot dictator from Stalin to Pol Pot. Get a grip man...
No one voted to spend thousands in attorney's fees to collect a few hundred dollars. I do not recall ever having read the part about anyone voting for a "good whipping" to force them to pay dues, either.
Can you spell FRAUD? Dorothy7
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Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2007 12:19 pm |
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Dorothy
your example is just an example of your scare tactics. if an resident does not pay their mandatory dues the Club has the legal responsibility to follow the law and abide by the CC&Rs guidelines in order to collect. a persons health has no bearings on the situation otherwise 1/2 of the residents would be exempt! including me!
there are people that will use loop holes to their advantage, try to represent facts that have been legaly judged as fact as if they are not! this will totaly confuse most readers but you know what it means!!!!!
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It means, Dear Avery, that if you support the club's attacks on your neighbor's property by Charlie Maxwell, you have hired a shark who will eventually eat you too! These HOA lawyers are in the business of manipulating naive volunteer board members in order to collect thousands in fees from the forced membership of homeowners in a social club!
For example, in Section 14 a man dying of kidney failure received a bill from Maxwell for over $5,000.00 for his fees! This is a lawyer acting as a collection agent for this board! Remember, the outstanding principle they are trying to collect is about $300.00 maximum!
The quotes are all Charlie Maxwell. Threatening to arrest anyone who tries to interrupt him, as he violates the rules of the club...throws out their bylaws, constitution and procedural rules...then stuffs the damned ballot box!
We are all the victims of this shameless blow-hard and his scam! Get it now?
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Dorothy
What are you trying to say? I have no " Hero"...... Your response makes little sense!
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AVERY: THOUGHT I'D SHARE SOME OF YOUR HERO'S STATEMENTS IN PERSON AT MEETINGS WITH OTHER OF HIS THOUSANDS?, HUNDREDS?, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS? HOA CLIENTS. (i HAVE THEM ON TAPE...SAVED FOREVER NOW IN MY FILES...LOVE THIS LITTLE DIGITAL DARLIN'!)
1. "INTERRUPTING ME IS AGAINST THE LAW! YOU CAN BE ARRESTED FOR INTERRUPTING ME."
2. "IF YOU HIRE YOUR OWN LAWYER AND HE FINDS OUT HE'S GOING UP AGAINST CHARLIE MAXWELL, HE WILL CHARGE YOU DOUBLE FEES, BECAUSE HE KNOWS I AM AN EXPERT!" (ALAS, ALL HIS LEGAL BRETHREN MUST BE DELIGHTED TO HEAR THAT!)
3. "I'M GOING TO SET YOU STRAIGHT ON THE RULES OF THIS MEETING! IF YOU HAD A LAWYER SET THIS UP, YOU'D BETTER GET YOU ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING!" (SPEAKING ILL OF YOUR COLLEAGUES AGAIN ARE WE? NAUGHTY NAUGHTY.)
4. HIS EXPERTISE HAS REALLY SERVED OUR CLUB...THEY'VE PAID HIM THOUSANDS TO COLLECT A COUPLE OF HUNDRED...WHICH THEY HAVEN'T GOT YET, AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL. SO SAD. DOROTHY7
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Dreamland Villa Community Club Board Members and the club's lawyer (right standing) pictured at a recent DVCC meeting.
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the kithcen was used tonight as it is every monday, there were people in the pool at Farnsworth. I don't know where you get your information!
As secretary do you have a Merry Chtistmas for the group that the Concerned Citizens incouraged to fight the mandatory membership? You mentioned great expense! What about theirs?
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Dear Avery...I am merely reporting the dialogue at meetings with the Board...as transcribed from my little recorder...such as..."c'mon you guys, let's use the kitchen now that it's fixed up", and "The water's just as wet at Farnsworth...why aren't you using the pools down there?" Hmmmm?
I know because the members who sit silent while the board harasses me, all tell me so by telephone and in person. You don't think filing lawsuits against 40 homeowners is scarey? That's exactly what the Board has done at great expense. Seems like the Judge is not going to allow court costs and attorney's fees either, so you just got screwed by Mx and the Board...again!! Have fun!
Merry Christmas! Dorothy7
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AVERY
WHERE IS BABEL ?? THAT IS THE QUESTION. ONLY ONE AT A TIME SO YOU CAN CONCENTRATE OK ?
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OH YEAH,
WE MET THEM IN THE COURTROOM ON FRIDAY, JUST A NICE BUNCH OF FOLKS CRYING THROUGH THEIR ATTORNEY TO SHAFT THEIR NEIGHBORS, THE ONE THEY MEET IN THE GROCERY STORE? NICE BUNCH OF MONEY HUNGRY SCARED IDIOTS. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE. OH, GUESS WHAT , THEY DIDN'T PREVAIL ! NO ATTORNEY FEES. HOW DO THEY LIKE THAT ?
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Posted: Mon Dec 17th, 2007 12:29 pm |
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Dorthy
As usual you have no idea what is going on! The kitchen is used at least once a week! Why would residents fear the board members? They meet them every where they go, the grocery store, walking through their pleasant quite streets and at the resraunts. They are our friends and neighbors serving their community!
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| Avery: Has it never occurred to you that grown ups make their own decisions? Most of the residents despise and fear the board. I understand that the kitchen is not in use after all those $ spent. Ditto the spy cam...etc. etc. Dorothy
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Avery whateve,
If you had been in the courtroom Friday you would know something about which you attempt to write about. The group is the property owners that had the nice christmas present a year ago from the club, board of directors and president. The group are the brave ones that choose to fight for their property rights and the only thing that matters is are we going to let the club continue to force us into mandatory membership? The started this mess, Mary Ann and her clowns and the club and its attorney must be amazed that they met such resistance. They thought they had a slam dunk and all the old feeble residents would just fall over and let them do what they wanted to like they did in Velda Rose. Well guess what? Didn't happen, there are many who do not want this forced membership and didn't have a fair vote or say in the evil document that has been filed on our property deeds. The second amended declaration. Have you read it ? We challange everyone to do so and then tell us it is not an evil document.
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Dorthy.
You forgot to mention the GROUP of people that encouraged residents to not pay dues and to file lawsuits. What was the courts decision?
The one lady that was mentioned in the trib that was waitng to hear from THE GROUP before paying her dues and now will have late fees etc. What will you tell her?
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In fact, Irish, you nailed....this is the size of a small township...one held together with bailing wire and spit...it's impossible to get the board of "volunteers" to get their heads out of the sand, (or elsewhere) and realize that they are not equiped to govern this many people with such meagre facilities to offer.
They sat over there giving each other awards and cheers while the weeds grew up to the cheeks of their fannies and complained that the weeds were growing, when if they'd put the money into spraying the weeds instead of harassing their neighbors, and paying their attorney's fees this place wouldn't have looked like a ghetto. It amazes me that they can find time to worry about whose wearing sun screen, and whose keeping their grandbaby over night, or when its mamma is sick, and can still sit around making up rules they can't enforce.
The single dumbest thing they've ever done is file 40 lawsuits that will grow and grow since those those they've been suing will have no alternative but to appeal if they lose, and keep appealing until their lawyer owns the club's treasurery. The most absurd ideas I've ever heard come from that bunch!
This shark they're paying thousands has convinced them that if the homeowners can't pay 100 dollars dues they will sue them for $5,000.00. Then what? Another year in court trying to foreclose on their property? Then, another year to evict them, and another to increase dues enough to pay the lawyer out of the proceeds?
Does it never cross their minds that they have followed this charlatan right off the edge into an abyss? From what I hear, the Judge's are not going to be generous with them. How could they?
I can't believe that the majority of owners would approve what's been going on over there. Not to mention the lack of common decency they have demonstrated by doing these terrible things to one of their neighbors...we'll see what they have to say for themselves when the rest of us watch them evict helpless old people. What a bunch of petty tyrants. Petra was right. They long to be dictators, and have found a few people who'll give in to their demands. Very sad state of affairs this Christmas. Just one long nightmare...since they decided to hire a predator to dispossess their neighbors. Thanks to the Board, there are now 40 people sick with worry, as well as the other travails of aging. Dorothy7
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Let's analyze what this 'Grand old idea' of what an HOA will 'actually do for 'us'...after all, everything/anything done in this community, will eventually affect everyone of us...
1. There are people that think 'Governmental' agencies can do more for us, than we can do for ourselves...they are run by us, people like us, and or people that we delegate to do this...
2. We are like a miniature country/state/'county'...that is the word that I was looking for...do you realize most counties where I have lived across this country, are 'managed' by 3 Supervisors(or whatever title they have)...that means roads, parking, traffic, street lites, garbage, etc...by meeting every 2 weeks or so...we have 'farmers' living right in our little 'island' that operate larger operations than this little project...
3. What do we 'really' want...let's not buy the 'horses' before we know how big the load is....'watch out what you wish for, you may get it...
4. Have you been involved in an HOA? ...'involved'?...they always start small, timid like...over-powered with 'ideas' that they need to find funding for...the next, & the next, etc projects...first thing you know the newness wears off, nobody wants to work, ..........so they hire a secretary...a maintenance man, an attorney....and then to be able to run this 'mega' operation, they hire a 'management' company...similiar to lighting the fuse on a rocket...costs go UP!!!
5. Soon you have big business...have you noticed the trend in this picture...costs constantly going up...I don't know about every 'retiree' in this community, but as I get older, everything costs more, especially health-related...& income stumbles around the 2-3%...plus we need more health related services than when we retired...not a 'big' monopoly known as an HOA... How much control do you have over any branch of the government...no matter how/if/when you vote...they just keep spending your money & getting less efficient every day..ct
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Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2007 08:43 pm |
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If the information I read is correct, the HOA may have violated the recent state law restricting HOA dues raises by more that 10%. In your case, I calculated a 19%
increase. When this increase took place may well decide if it was legal or not.
One of the basic rules for HOA boards must follow is to treat all members equally. They cannot give extra privilages to just part of the membership. In this case, some memberships are now at a reduced rate making 2 distinct classes of membership. I believe that may be illegal.
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Posted: Fri Dec 7th, 2007 02:10 pm |
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After allowing their attorney to issue Summonses of Lien on 40 of their neighbors, the Board is stunned to find they've paid out big $ for these heartless and hateful attacks on their neighbor's last Christmas. Now, they printed in the Citizen that their legal expenses were up 566%, and they're out of money.
What will it take to make them see that Dreamland Villa got by without a lawyer for over 40 years? That the club should give up abusing its members and trying to take their homes?
How could they allow that shark to attack a totally defenseless neighbor dying of kidney failure? Makes one wonder about the grip those people have on the spirit of Christmas...doesn't it?
Will they break out the champagne and party hearty after the first foreclosure and eviction is complete?
Will they have enough of the dues they are extorting from their sick and dying neighbors to buy the champagne; or will their lawyer have it all? Dorothy7
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Ron & Cathy Ehninger
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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 12:31 pm |
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OH WHERE OH WHERE HAS MY LITTLE BABEL GONE,
OH WHERE OH WHERE CAN THEY BE ,
WITH THEIR POT LUCKS AND BINGO PARTIES
OH WHERE, OH WHERE CAN THEY BE ???
HUMMMMMMMM??
R&C
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DreamlandMan
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Posted: Sat Jun 30th, 2007 07:24 pm |
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"We've secretively attached restrictions to our neighbors deeds, freeloaded off their fixed incomes, gave ourselves the ability to foreclose on their properties, denied them voting decisions, and blatantly lied and lied.........you know, being a DVCC Board Member has it's perks."
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Posted: Wed Jun 27th, 2007 07:21 am |
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| We are all awaiting for you & Dorothy's return... with 'baited' breath...(no that is what the DVCC BD/Directors? & Attorney? have......)...whew!!!...ct
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Ron & Cathy Ehninger
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Posted: Wed Jun 20th, 2007 01:16 am |
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THIS WILL BE OUR LAST POST ON THE BLOG FOR A WHILE IN RESPECT FOR THE COURT HEARING TODAY. WE WILL NOT MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE CASE AND WILL LET THE OUTCOME SPEAK FOR US. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE INTERESTED IT IS: cv2007-090680.
IF YOU HAVE A NEED TO CONTACT US, WE ARE IN THE PHONE BOOKS. MUCH HAS BEEN SAID AND MUCH REMAINS TO BE DONE. THE JUDGE HAS ASKED ALL PARTIES TO REFAIN AND WE ARE IN AGREEMENT.
R & C
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Dorothy7
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Posted: Sun Jun 17th, 2007 07:46 pm |
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You mean, like being "distraught" over the death of my "cat?" As God is my witness, I have never owned a cat...living or dead. My daughter has a violent allergy to their dander.
Now, as to my tenure, and Jims. He attends all meetings...signs statements for the attorney about ballot counts etc. etc., and apparently does the club's taxes. I have yet to see who exactly is on the new board.
If he isn't, he'll find a way to run it anyhow...He was the one who proposed the new "Rule" against parking utility trailers on your lot...even though the County won't enforce it, and the club can't. Since when does a mere parliamentarian propose rules?
Again, your hero in action...first snookering old sick people out of their property and money on the sneak, and now pretending to have "Rules" when they do not. Dorothy7
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Posted: Sun Jun 17th, 2007 02:33 pm |
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BABEL ON AND ON AND ON,
BOY , NOW MRS COOK, THAT IS A REAL EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO FORCE US TO JOIN HER WONDERFUL FUN FILLED CLUB! SHE HAS BEEN IN THE BACKGROUND AND IS AN EXAMPLE OF THOSE BUSY BODIES THAT WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS, SO SIDE WITH HER IF YOU WILL, BUT SAVE US THE PAIN OF YOUR RAMBELIINGS ABOUT HOW WONDERFUL SHE AND HER FRIENDS ARE , HOW MUCH THEY DO FOR THE COMMUNITY, HORSE PUCKY. THEY ARE MESSING WITH THE WRONG END OF THE STICK THIS TIME AND THEY ARE GOING TO FIND OUT VERY SOON.
R
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Posted: Sat Jun 16th, 2007 08:05 pm |
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Dorothy7: I am just asking people to read the letters and see for themselves who writes, calling people names, insulting them for having a different opion on the issue!
Ms Cook hasn't been on the board that I know of, she is just an interested neighbor that cares for and volunteers in her community! She has no say on when or who gets billed for past dues! Beep Beep Beep
Mr Cook isn't on the board as you stated in your response to Ms Cooks letter! He is parlimentarian not a board member, he has no vote on board issues. He has no say on when or who gets billed for past dues. Beep Beep Beep
So your attack on them is uncalled for. Ms Cook is responding to statements she reads in articles in the Independant and other publications!
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Posted: Sat Jun 16th, 2007 12:28 pm |
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Dear Alas: And exactly how does your personal attack on DVman and myself answer any of the questions I raised? Did you read Joan Cook's hit piece in the Independent? If not, you should. Not once, in all that tirade did she offer any explanation for deceiving elderly, often ill and confused people in order to obtain "consent signatures" for documents they had never seen.
I'd appreciate an answer. PS You can hate the sin and love the sinner. Ever hear that? Dorothy7
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Posted: Sat Jun 16th, 2007 03:32 am |
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Readers :::: there is hate coming from only one group pertaing to this issue, read the letters from, Dorothy7, R & C. and the infamous Dreamlandgarbageman. It comes from the dissident side! I will start listing the names and insults from the previous days entries starting tomorrow!
Just check the response to this letter!
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Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2007 01:22 am |
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Irish kid nailed it, Alas!
Hatred is precisely the correct response to having a band of theives sneak around and file controlling interest in your property! I can't believe that you're so totally brain dead that you do not see the danger to your own property. You think you can kiss up to this bunch, (or the next) and they won't send you a Summons threatening to foreclose and sell your house at Sheriff's auction?
Stalin and Hitler confiscated property for their political gain, and turned ordinary people into instruments of their excesses...millions died because the picked on the most helpless, or the most unpopular first. Then, they got to everyone.
Look at the Cooks and the Coles, and the Glauners etc. etc.
They are now supporting taking their neighbors home for less than $1,000.00. does it stand to reason that if he cannot pay $184.00 that he will be able to pay thousands in penalties, interest and attorney's fees?
They, those vile, self interested bullies, want to take his home and sell it. The reason is that he does not have his Homestead Exemption to protect his equity. A blind limited partnership will bid on his house and buy it...then someone (guess who?) will take his equity. Tell me, Alas, how do you sleep nights knowing that this man, suffering the torments of the damned with stage 5 kidney failure, is dragging himself to court to try to save his property from your buddies in crime? Dorothy7
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Posted: Thu Jun 14th, 2007 06:03 pm |
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Alas, the difference between the old CC&R's and the new ones is that under the old ones there was NOTHING to collect!
The abuse is coming from the club. Things used to be peaceful here.
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DreamlandMan
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Posted: Thu Jun 14th, 2007 02:38 pm |
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"We've secretively attached restrictions to our neighbors deeds, freeloaded off their fixed incomes, gave ourselves the ability to foreclose on their properties, denied them voting decisions, and blatantly lied and lied.........you know, being a DVCC Board Member has it's perks."
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Posted: Thu Jun 14th, 2007 01:49 pm |
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Just as when you purchase a home, there is a method to enforcing the pay back of the funds. Dozens of pages to explain the collecting procedure!
Just as when you purchase a car, there is a method to enforce the pay back of the loan. A page or two explaining what happens if you fail to pay!
When the mandatory membership passed, part of the legal responsiblitlty of the Club was to have a method of collecting the dues! They couldn't design or make up these methods, they had to obey local, state and federal laws.
The differance between the old CC&R's and the revised ones is the collection method had to be included.
Residents of the community need to have a method of controling the rules and regulations of said community! Residents elect the board members from resident nominated members! They are volunteers, have limited terms & power.
Just as with us, next week they may have ailments, emergancies or other reason to need to resign.
They work hard for their community and take a lot of abuse from their neighbors associated with the Concerned Citizens and Dreamlandgarbageman!
Whether you agree with the issue or not, the hatred and abuse is toally uncalled for!
For every dissident there is propably 98.7 happy and content resident!
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DreamlandMan
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Posted: Thu Jun 14th, 2007 05:01 am |
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"We've secretively attached restrictions to our neighbors deeds, freeloaded off their fixed incomes, gave ourselves the ability to foreclose on their properties, denied them voting decisions, and blatantly lied and lied.........you know, being a DVCC Board Member has it's perks."
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