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Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 01:00 pm |
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Dorothy7: What you say happened sounds like what I said. I have no idea what you and the Deputy were talking about outside while the board covered the business at hand.
I wonder where R & C got their false information about the Deputy addressing everyone present. When I was leaving and 1/3 of the people had left you were coming back in to retrieve your belongings! He hadn't said a word then!
It is so easy to get thing twisted and distorted getting it 2nd & 3rd party!
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Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 12:56 pm |
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There you go Bable on and on, you have it first hand from the lady. No hearsay. What do you have to babel now ? One thing we know is that you are a card carrying, meeting attending voting member of the club so your views are slanted. You are so happy enjoying the nice shows and bingo games and you walk all over your community to get them. You treat a lady like this ? Bull Crap. You guys are a mess. Why doesn't someone step up and be the hero. Oh but that takes courage and determination. Look no farther than Dorothy and Vicki, they have more of those qualities than ten like you. Happy on happy person. Shine your card and be proud of what you are doing !!!
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Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 12:40 pm |
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R: I don't know what meeting you are talking about! When I and most others present had left the Deputy had not said anything to us or the Board members! In fact Dorothy was just coming back in to retrieve her things! "If" it happened 2/3's of the people had left, not before all present at the meeting as you claim!
All I can tell you is what I have witnessed! That is why I don't say anything about the court cases! I could repeat heresay but it is never accurate!
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Posted: Wed Mar 7th, 2007 12:08 pm |
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Dear Alas: What a peculiar view of the proceedings you must have had. The Board adjourned after the Deputy asked for a copy of the rules I had violated. He then told me that he would get me a list of rules. He apologized when the board adjourned so quickly...he was expecting them to do some business, and respond to my letter...and that he did not intend for me to leave the meeting. (which I did not).
Now, here's the rest of the story. The Deputy and I were standing right outside the door. We waited for them to convene...I showed him copies of the rules and the statutes and waited while he read them. The Board did nada, but listen.
Maxwell was called because the Board could not respond to the Deputy's questions without Maxwell present. I told the deputy that the rules or the Statutes do not require that I meet with anyone other than the Board who wants to expel me.
He read the statute and the rules, and told them that in his opinion I was not violating the law, and that it did appear that they must provide me a list of violations before I could be expelled, and that he would not arrest me, since he was a law enforcement officer and no law had been violated. At that point, the board adjourned. The entire meeting did not last 15 minutes. I was in the room recovering my purse in which my handy dandy little recorder was whirring away. Will get the transcript printed tomorrow. Too tired this evening...
I'll be back on Tuesday next, and this time they will either call the law, and attempt to have me arrested, or provide me a list of violations. Without that, there is no expulsion, and since I offered to write a check for my dues, and they said they couldn't take any money from me, I assume my membership this year is free.
Alas dear, still hiding behind an alias, I challenge you to show me the rule that allows expulsion without cause...the rule you added without notice or member approval after the fact of the dismissal Motion, is not in effect as far as my expulsion is concerned.
The unlawful, and not within rules motion read by Janet Massey was placed before this board on December 12, 2006. There is no Rule 8B in either the 06 or 07 telephone book, and I could not have violated a rule that does not, and did not exist.
Furthermore, the original Motion included the phrase "because of their afilliation with Concerned Citizens." Show me that rule. Vicki is not "afilliated. I am, and was a founding member at the time I joined the club in January 06, and you all knew it.
The arrest will be carefully recorded by the media this next Tuesday...I am looking forward to it. Dorothy7
Precisely where in the rules, does it say that no non-member can be present when business is conducted? Surely not in the rules any member has available. It is clear in the rules that any member may bring a guest, or any non-member who has been given the card of a member with a written notice to the board that this person represents me, and speaks for me as my representative at the meeting, has the protection of the Statutes. Read the statutes, and the rules.
(Tell the truth, you been listening to charlie...haven't you?)
Remember Dick Leckey's hearing when Charlie was present when you voted not give the ballots to Mr. Leckey? Is he now a homeowner in DV? hmmmm? Remember the meeting on January 13, 2004 when you were allowing him to conduct the balloting, and the meeting? Hmmm.? Maybe you'd like to try again?
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Regarding the study session you talk about babel on and on,
You neglected to tell the folks the results. The deputy came and he spoke with his supervisor and once they got the information and the story straight, he told the board and the club in front of everyone present. if they don't knock it off he is personally going to charge them the club with mischevious mis and that has a hefty fine. Dorothy will attend the meetings as she is a member and hasn't been given the courtesy of a fair hearing to answer her critics and those who accuse her. But that would be a demorcarcy huh ? Turn up the heat on the pot folks the club isn't smart enough to know they are being cooked. But they soon will. Today was a good start.
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Posted: Tue Mar 6th, 2007 04:04 pm |
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Board Study Session 3/6/2007 Meeting delayed waiting for Sherriff's Deputy's. Dorothy was trying to attend the meeting. Meetings can't be held with nonmembers in attendance. The deputy's approached her after a few minutes she did go outside to talk with them. The meeting began and all went on in orderly fashion!
FYI! At the general meetings when there are guest speakers, the meeting won't begin until the speakers have left. Only members with the up to date cards can be in attendance.
The board didn't make the rules so don't blame them, it it in the book!
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Posted: Tue Mar 6th, 2007 11:16 am |
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Dear Readers: I shall attend this morning's "work session"....last year, this session was held in secret to elect new officers of the Board, so it should be a golden opportunity for them to begin a taking a new, and lawful direction in their dealings with members.
I shall attempt to explain in detail to them that there are statutory requirements and club rules that must be followed if they expect expulsion/termination/revocation to work. they have offered a civil and courteous discussion of the rules this time...so I shall go prepared for that.
Of course, there is a remote possibility that they will simply stonewall their problems again, and I am prepared for that as well. Dorothy7
PS All interested members should attend. Perhaps they could explain what possible harm one dissenting voice represents to the club? Maxwell assures us at every opportunity that we are an insignificant little band of something or other...he's never quite sure which pejoritive fits us...malcontents, disgruntled minority, etc. etc. etc.
I would love to hear his "orientation" lecture to the new members. The "loyalty oath" is also an inspiring thing to witness. ha
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alasbabylon wrote: R: The hall was full of people that saw annexation as a bad thing with the City of Mesa having financial difficulty as they met! The fire station planned at Adobe & Recker was taken off of the table. They said they would have added 2 more policeman, with no vacation patrols like we have now. Threat, I think so! Dorothy responds: Dear Alas: The military has a saying: "don't be one of the 10% who never get the word. Listen up!" The word is: When Mr. Gatts decided to undertake getting signatures for annexation the City was all for it. Then, the City Manager investigated the cost benefit analysis and guess what? The older sections would cost them too much because of their aging septic systems, and they changed their minds about all but those Sections already on the City Sewer...a month or more before Billie's meeting.
Mr. Gatts told everyone whom he talked to...those on sewer would pay something for processing their applications but those not on sewer or more than 50 feet from an existing line would pay about $1,000.00 as I recall. This is big news? This is a threat? To whom? In my experience Rural Metro is not providing adequate fire or ambulance service. I understand that some have received better service, but m y own experience has been less than Southwest has provided. I would love to get rid of my septic system...it's operating fine for now, but the sewer also provides storm drains...and the other City Services like Dial-a-ride are a great convenience for many of our residents. As for your fears about losing the Senior Overlay...rest easy...the only way it's in peril is if the County finds out that those dim wits went door to door telling people they could keep "Mexicans with families out" by "saving the Senior Overlay." That is overt racial discrimination, and will cost the club its Senior Overlay, so take care to instruct the "committee members" you send out carefully. Of course when you're perpetrating a fraud...what's a little more criminality? Dorothy7
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Posted: Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 02:57 pm |
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Dreamland Man, aka Blue caped Wonder,
Wow you ask the hard questions. Bable and his friends don't like to talk about money only happy feet ? The last fianancials I saw, listed " Disclosure Fees" of somewhere around 20,000.00. That is gravey money paid to the non profit social Club, by sales of real estate in Nightmare Villa. It is a fee for sending the buyer a packet about Happy Feet Villa, do you wonder how many really got them? The pakcet I mean. How many received copies of the SADR attached to their deeds ( except section Six) ? Talke about money for nothing and the votes are free !
Lets hope someone from that bunch can tell us the answers to your questions. But first they have to read the document attached to their properties. bet you a milkshake none of them have read it. Especially the part about giving up their homestead excemption. Is that worth the 55 overlay ?
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Posted: Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 01:44 pm |
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Babel on and on,
A threat is when someone or something tries to take away from you something. Or when someone or something tries to blow you up. Or when someone or something tries to take a way your property rights as a citizen. OR when someone or something tries to force you into mandatory membership in a non profit social pot luck club.
THAT IS A THREAT
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Posted: Sat Mar 3rd, 2007 01:17 pm |
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| R: The hall was full of people that saw annexation as a bad thing with the City of Mesa having financial difficulty as they met! The fire station planned at Adobe & Recker was taken off of the table. They said they would have added 2 more policeman, with no vacation patrols like we have now. Threat, I think so!
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Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 01:19 pm |
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Bable on and on wrote,
Now that the threat of anexations is over etc. What an interesting choice of words. THREAT. Now why would someone view anexation as a threat ? Hummm why would the response to anexation be so quick and personal? Why ? Why? Why?
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Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 12:56 pm |
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| Dreamlandman: I could stoop to your level, and remind you that there are anger management and communication classes available for people that have to degrade others! But I won't. If you ask nicely and say please maybe some one would answer your questions. And maybe they won't!
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I would like everyone to notice that nobody supporting mandatory membership has responded to my invitation to express their views and thoughts about TRANSFER FEES & SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS.
I guess straightforward intelligent questions are difficult for some.
What do you people do when you vote on a proposition?.......just skip it because it confuses you?
Hey Mandatory Membership supporters, there are GED programs available that will enable all of you to finally get your High School Diplomas.....Go for it!
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| You will find out that although property values have risen throughout the vallley in the past few years, properties without deed restrictions have more value and have a much greater re-sale value. Non-deed restricted properties that are for sale have a shorter time span on the market before being sold.
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Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 01:39 am |
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Dreamlandman; The "Club" is the residents, the Board is limited to what they can do! Lets see, my property doubled in value in 7 years. Property value has gone down thru out the valley the last year not just Dreamland! So moving into and living in Dreamland has been experience!
Enjoying Dreamland!
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Posted: Fri Mar 2nd, 2007 12:28 am |
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OH GEE , LETS NOT CONFUSE BABEL ON AND ON, HE REALLY HAS A ONE TRACK " TRUTH DETECTOR" BETTER NOT STEP ON ANY LAND MINDS BABEL HEAD. OR IS IT BOBBLE HEAD?
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Posted: Thu Mar 1st, 2007 01:42 pm |
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Dorothy7: You wrote "
Alas, Alas we have a deteriorating situation here that has the club embroiled in defending and paying for over 40 lawsuits! Geez Louise, how dumb can they be? When will they wake up? Old Charlie's really helping them out. For over 40 years we had no lawsuits...then they hired Charlie...Dorothy7
If it wasn't "Charlie" it would have been " George". They hired a lawyer to handle legal business! "They" have to trust the person " They" hired , just as the people with the lawsuits will have to trust the lawyers they hired.
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| Dorothy7: Thats is confusing, there are signs posted stating the 55+ community, the county rep at the annexation meeting last week stated that every year Dreamland sends a report verifying the 80 - 20 status. And the county helps when underage residents are involved. So if they aren't concerned why does all this take place?
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Posted: Wed Feb 28th, 2007 11:47 pm |
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alasbabylon wrote: Gweevo & csi-the witness: did it ever occurr to you that for over 40 years it was the " Club" that worked with the county on the complaints and age violations that maintained the 55+ that all residents enjoyed! So for over 40 years the nonmember residents were enjoying the hard work of their " Club" members and " Club" board members volunteer friends & neighbors! The complaints committee would be a difficult one to volunteer for wouldn't it? Dear Alas: The club has been sending in the applications to the county for the Age restriction exemption that the County oversees. In 1994, the club collected names and tried to add a covenant allowing them to enforce the 55+ age limitation on buyers in DV. However; because they were a voluntary non-profit corporation acting as a social or civic club, they had no legal authority to enforce anything...(even though they pretended that they did). At the time of our last application Bob White and Andy Anderson and our committee submitted the application based on the latest census which we got from the library. It is not rocket science, and could be submitted by any resident, or committee formed for that purpose. The members of the board have maintained now for several years that without them filing the application and verification of resident's ages, the overlay would slip away. That is untrue. The club has never, and does not now represent a majority of owners...it has mustered about 300 members for the annual meetings and far fewer for its activities...generally, about 200, counting the board members and their families, or spouses and friends. Remember many of those attending are winter renters...and could care less about the "Senior Overlay"...or the attachments to our deeds put on without our knowledge or consent. Like theives in the night. Not nice. Not honest. Not legal. Just like their stuffing the ballot box at the now infamous meeting in Jan."04 when they wouldn't let people in the building to vote or rescind.
Alas, Alas we have a deteriorating situation here that has the club embroiled in defending and paying for over 40 lawsuits! Geez Louise, how dumb can they be? When will they wake up? Old Charlie's really helping them out. For over 40 years we had no lawsuits...then they hired Charlie...Dorothy7
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Posted: Wed Feb 28th, 2007 11:36 pm |
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NIGHTMARE VILLA IS NOT AN HOA !!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Wed Feb 28th, 2007 11:33 pm |
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So wouldn't anyone with a complaint be able to complain directly to the county? I fail to see the need for the complaint commitee.
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Posted: Wed Feb 28th, 2007 10:31 pm |
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Gweevo: There is no funding of the maintaining the 55+ overlay. The Club has a complaint committee! Volunteers on the committee address the complaint and if they can't handle them then they go to the county. The City reps were asked at the annexation meeting last week if they do anything about maintaining the 55+ overlay? They said no, they rely on HOA's and or Clubs to do it! If the Club did fold there would be no enforcement of the age restrictions.
There are other committees that take care of the amenities in Dreamland, all volunteer friends & neighbors giving of their time and experience! The funding comes from dues, that are used to maintain the facilities and pay a small office crew and maintance crew! The Club is a busy hard working group of friend & neighbors that do what they do to make Dreamland a great community to live in! Many times with no appreciation!
As in all financial dealings ( home loan, auto loan ) there has to be a means to enforce the collecting of monies! Even in HOA situations.
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Alas, you make a good point here. If the club has been working with the county and monitoring age violations for over 40 years, then the non-members have indeed benefited from the club's activities. However, any funding for maintaining the 55+ overlay should have been included in the original sales agreements, not imposed later. I guess this was a mistake made 40 years ago. If it's become necessary to correct this mistake, perhaps it could be done in a way that:
-Reguires residents to pay only enough to fund maintenance of the 55+ overlay, and not pay for facilities and services in which they're not interesed.
-Does not deny them the right to the Homestead Act protection.
-Does not add an attachment to their deeds that makes their house more difficult to sell.
-Does not expose them to future assesments.
If an equitable way to correct this 40 year old mistake can't be found, then it may be a mistake Dreamland will have to live with. Maybe the 55+ overlay will cease to be enforced....maybe not. I don't know enough facts about this. Some people in this forum have claimed that the club is not necessary for the overlay. If this is true, can someone tell me how the overlay would be, (or has been), enforced without the club?
My family is looking forward to our annual visit to my father-in-law in Dreamland, three weeks from now. And all the more so since it's snowing here in Denver as I type this. 
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Posted: Wed Feb 28th, 2007 12:42 pm |
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| Gweevo & csi-the witness: did it ever occurr to you that for over 40 years it was the " Club" that worked with the county on the complaints and age violations that maintained the 55+ that all residents enjoyed! So for over 40 years the nonmember residents were enjoying the hard work of their " Club" members and " Club" board members volunteer friends & neighbors! The complaints committee would be a difficult one to volunteer for wouldn't it?
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gweevo wrote: Alas & HOAS,
I'm glad you are enjoying your days at Dreamland and agree that $.25 a day is a bargain for all the options you choose to take advantage of. Unfortunately this bargain is made possible by forcing residents who do not use these facilities to share in their cost. You say that most everyone enjoys their days at Dreamland. Have you taken some sort of poll? I inagine you're referring to the folks you know from the club, who hardly constitue a majority. I have hobbies and activities that I enjoy but it would never occur to me to try to force my neighbors to subsidize their cost.
Gweevo: your assessment is true.....and I would like to add that the Club itself has never subsidized anything...or anyone.....
It is a social club: a social club......and the neighborhood has not gone amuck in the 40 years it has been in existence as a voluntary social club. The voluntary club was subsidized by all the original homeowners. Did anyone ever see a purchase of those so called common properties.???? It is a good thing that property values have skyrocketed or the balance sheet on the Club and its equities and liabilities would be more than a deterent for new homebuyers. The buildings do need to be updated....While the purchasers of the homes in the Villa have been remodeling and updating .....................the club facilities have not kept up the community standards.
You hit it right on the head when you said "I enjoy hobbies and activities , but it would never occur to me to try to FORCE my neighbors to subsidize the cost" And I would add to that : "It would never occur to me to deny my neighbors the right to the homestead act protection or "It would never occur to me to deny my neighbor the right to the statute of limitations" or "It would never occur to me to threaten my neighbors with liens, penalties and possible foreclosure -just because of a perceived need for a social club. "
Who needs a social club that badly. ....
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| R &C. Never you mind...I am steadfastly refusing to stop attending meetings until such time as I have written notice of specific rules violations having occurred from January 1, 2006 through December 12, 2006 at which time I was expelled. When they meet the requirements and the rules I shall persist...An arrest might be an interesting means of exposing their machinations to a judge. You thing? Dorothy7
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Thanks for the info Dorothy, sorry they are still stiring the pot on you. Turn up the heat on them and see how they like it . Yes our friend Bable on and on likes to take shots but wants to withold his name. We do think he is a guy ? Maybe? Who cares? His bable is the same every day and he is so happy in Nightmare Villa like a pig in s t !!!
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Posted: Fri Feb 23rd, 2007 07:55 pm |
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Dear Ron and Cathy: I thought you might like to share with your readers the following scenario;
I received another certified letter in which Mr. Maxwell offering me 15 minutes in his office to defend against charges brought on December 12, 2006.
Fifteen whole damned minutes in his office on February 28, 2007 I will be given as the rules and the statutes require, a "fair hearing?" Yeah, right!
The Board, acting under the sway of Maxwell's advice expelled me without notice and without a hearing on December 12, 2006. The rules in place at that time required both prior notice and a "fair hearing". Not only were we expelled without cause, the board saw fit to advertise it's violations of the rules and the statutes.
Maybe one of our readers will tell me how one could anticipate a fair hearing from a man who advised his clients to violate the rules and the statutes in order to expel Mr. and Mrs. Wirtz and myself for our alleged affiliation with Concerned Citizens? (Remember, Vicki is not a part of our Citizens Committee. The Board voted unanimously to expel us...in violation of the rules and statutes.
A neutral third party must hear these charges and render a judgment. None of the above can be capable of a "fair hearing of the facts", since they have advertised their conclusions already.
I guess they're demanding another lawsuit...Charlie's going to make a bundle before this board catches on, isn't he? What fun!!! Dorothy 7.
(Has Alas ever signed his real name? I'm waiting.)
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Now Alas may set aside his concerns about your happiness...we are ecstatic, euphoric, elated and HAPPY!
Another victory for our side! Well done R&C! Dorothy7.
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In case you haven't heard, the judge at the Justice court agreed to move the summons cases to the Superior Court. Charlie said it wouldn't happen. Hum maybe he doesn't know everything? Should get interesting now.
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You are correct. DV is not an HOA. I wish the Independent would stop referring to DVCC as an HOA because it gives everyone the false impression that it is. Again, DVCC is not an HOA.
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Posted: Sun Feb 18th, 2007 01:51 pm |
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NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH NEWS FLASH
DREAMLAND VILLA COMMUNITY CLUB IS NOT AN HOA. NEVER HAS BEEN, NEVER WILL BE.
DREAMLAND VILLA COMMUNITY CLUB IS NOT A NON PROFIT COPORATION. LOOK IT UP ON THE INTERNET AND THEY HAD THE GALL TO FILE A COPY OF THEIR OWN FINANCIALS WITH THEIR LAST FILING.
REMEMBER, IT IS NOT AN HOA NOTTA , NO, YEP NO , HOA.
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Police widen HOA probe
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The Arizona Republic
Feb. 15, 2007 12:00 AM
Chandler police have widened the scope of a fraud investigation into an HOA management company, alleging Wednesday that hundreds of thousands more dollars than previously believed are involved.
More associations also may have been victimized than first thought, meaning homeowners in a dozen or more HOAs could see higher fees or service cuts as they struggle to make up the shortfall.
Chandler police said they believe Timothy Lee Reedy, 56, stole $500,000 and cheated at least a dozen HOAs. Reedy owns the Chandler-based Reedy Group, which manages more than 20 homeowners associations across the Valley.
"It has exceeded well above the initial dollar amount and it's still continuing," said Sgt. Rick Griner, a Chandler police spokesman.
Reedy could not be reached for comment Wednesday.
Police arrested Reedy on Jan. 18 at his downtown Chandler office, 58 W. Buffalo St., on suspicion of fraud and stealing $145,000. But now that amount has more than tripled, according to detectives.
"These type of crimes have a lot of trails, a lot of follow up to do and a lot of files to go through," Griner said. "That's how we have discovered it went up."
Griner also said tips came in after the story became public.
"After this hit the media I was inundated with phone calls from HOAs," Griner said. "I probably fielded 20-plus calls, just wondering if they were part of this or not."
Reedy is not currently in custody and in a previous interview denied the allegations. .
At an HOA meeting this week, former Gilbert Mayor Cynthia Dunham listened to Chandler police inform homeowners that the management company for her Wind Drift HOA allegedly stole between $100,000 and $200,000.
As founder of the East Valley-based Leadership Centre, an organization that educates people on homeowner associations, Dunham said HOAs need to do more to protect themselves from unethical management companies.
"The days of just getting references and checking memberships is gone," said Dunham, who is sharing her HOA's hard lesson through the center. "Our treasurer is now getting a copy of all bank statements and verifying account information with the bank."
Dunham said homeowners were told that Reedy was bonded but he canceled his insurance policy last year.
"It's no fun to be told you're the victim of a crime, but (homeowners) supported the board and their ongoing efforts to find out what happened," Dunham said.
In 1989, Reedy was convicted of the sale of unregistered securities, a Class 4 felony, and theft. He was sentenced to probation, which he violated, and a judge revoked his civil rights, court records show. He spent 18 months in state prison for the probation violation, according to court documents.
After his prison term, a judge reinstated his civil rights and expunged his conviction.
Reporter Dianna M. Náñez contributed to this article.
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Dorothy7
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Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2007 03:18 pm |
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Dear DVman: yes indeed there is news. The nasty little gestapo is trying to add post facto rules to violate member's right again. More later, am tapping too fast to write more. Ha Dorothy
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DreamlandMan
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Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2007 01:26 am |
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Hello R & C,
I'm afraid that the new president will be more of the same. Just a rubber stamp! Unfortunately, she is probably just a puppet controlled by the Board.
Any news regarding the board meeting yesterday?
Take care,
Dreamlandman
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Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2007 11:49 pm |
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Good Stuff Dreamland Man,
now if the folks will take the time and effort to read all of it they might begin to understand the crap they have on their property deeds thanks to the BOD and Presidents. Hey how about the Now sitting President, is she taking a low profile or what ? Any one know anything about her ? How long has she been in Nightmare Villa and it she a potential Hero for the community or another rubber stamp? Guess time will tell.
R&C
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DreamlandMan
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Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2007 09:35 pm |
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Hopefully, the information listed below will help DV residents learn more about the Dreamland Villa Community Club's deed restricitions placed on residents properties and recorded with Maricopa County.
CLICK ON THE BLUE HIGHLIGHTED RECORDING NUMBER AT THE END OF EACH LINE. THIS SHOULD TAKE YOU DIRECTLY TO INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR SPECIFIC SECTION.
You should be able to view on a page by page basis.
Be sure to read all sections of ARTICLE VI(Liens, Special Assessments, Enforcement, Monthly or Yearly Collections, Etc.,)............
..... ALSO, ARTICLE VII (Transfer Fees, Etc.,)
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTIONS:
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION FOURTEEN PROP RSTR 04/30/2003 03-0543566
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION NINE MOD RSTR 01/29/2004 04-0089902
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION NINETEEN C/SUR MAP 11/20/2003 03-1598844
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION SEVEN PROP RSTR 03/25/2003 03-0359749
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION SEVENTEEN NOTICE 12/12/2003 03-1683073
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION SIXTEEN MOD RSTR 01/23/2004 04-0071024
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION TEN MOD RSTR 02/23/2004 04-0175760
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION THREE MOD D/T 01/02/2004 04-0002005
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION TWELVE MOD RSTR 01/29/2004 04-0089903
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION TWO MOD RSTR 01/23/2004 04-0071025
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION EIGHT MOD RSTR 02/23/2004 04-0175758
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION EIGHTEEN C/SUR MAP 11/20/2003 03-1598845
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION ELEVEN MOD RSTR 02/23/2004 04-0175759
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION FIFTEEN MOD RSTR 01/23/2004 04-0071023
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION FIVE C/SUR MAP 11/20/2003 03-1598846
DREAMLAND VILLA SECTION FOUR MOD D/T 12/23/2003 03-1723276
Also, the County Recorder's site is listed below.
http://recorder.maricopa.gov/recdocdata/
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DreamlandMan
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Posted: Tue Feb 13th, 2007 01:33 pm |
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HELLO R & C,
You are absolutely correct when you say "follow the money trail." I sincerely hope that our fellow DV neighbors will wake up to this fact. It would be great having an angry mob of several hundred people flushing out the corrupt individuals who feel safely entrenched at their DVCC hide-out.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13th, 2007 12:51 pm |
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Didn't your heart go out to those poor folks in Apache Wells when you read the article in todays Tribune ? They are voting on building a new clubhouse/pro shop at the tune of Eight ( 8) million dollars or 6,000 per home. Oh but you can make payments and if you can't afford it you can apply for an exemption. Sound familiar ? 50 bucks a month to build the golfers a pro shop? The weirdest part of the article is that the Country Club and the HOA are owned by the same people. The property owners ! So what you really have is two board of Dirrectors fighting over who will pay the bill to build them a cyrstal palace and then they want to lease it back for 1.00 per year. Yikes ! Could this happen in Nightmare Villa? Have you looked at our potential Country Club ? The nine hole golf course. Now pilgrims. ask yourself, who owns that property? Might be on the recorders web site? Hummm. Follow the money .
R&C
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DreamlandMan
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Posted: Sun Feb 11th, 2007 05:16 pm |
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The following (below) is what happens when narrow-minded, power-hungry individuals have an exaggerated sense of their own self-importance......such as Dreamland Villa Community Club Board Members (past & present)
When Will HOA Boards Learn that the HOA is NOT a Social Club?
Citizens for Constitutional Local Government
BY GEORGE STAROPOLI
In September 2006, a new Arizona statute gave homeowners the right to file a complaint against their HOA through the Office of Administrative Hearings, a state entity under the Administrative Procedures Act (APA). The rules of civil procedure do not apply, and the conduct of the hearings are less formal than required in the courts giving the homeowner a more level playing field in order to obtain justice.
One of the first cases, OAH # 07F-H067007-BFS, exposed the functioning of the HOA board as a social club, in spite of the board's use of a CAI attorney and member of its College of Community Associations Lawyers to review the marked amendment to its 1983 CC&Rs.
By "social club", I mean the board's overt behavior that reflected an ignorance and intentional disregard of the laws,of the governing documents, and of its legal, contractual and fiduciary duties and obligations. I have witnessed this lack of accountability and arrogance by many HOA boards, many times.
At the hearing, the board member repeatedly used such phrases as, "we didn't think", "we always did it this way", "we couldn't find any law", "we wanted to", etc. This is shocking when it comes to transfer of property to the HOA via an amendment rather than by signed deed. By the "fiat" of an amendment, the board appropriated the sidewalks of homeowners as part of the common area. No homeonwner signed over his property by any deed.
In regard to a request for the results of a member survey of changes, the board felt that they were not HOA records but were confidential statements, and it didn't feel it necessary to comply with ARS 33-1803 pertaining to providing HOA records to homeowner requests. An open meeting of members to debate the changes never took place before the vote.
In her closing statement, the board member said that they felt the survey was confidential and that they wanted a court or judge to tell them that they had violated the law. Another board member saw no problems with the amendment. A third board member was asked, "Do you feel that you own your sidewalk", since the board maintains the landscaping?
If it were not for the OAH law, this important case would not be heard and the HOA would continue to abuse its authority with apparent attorney approval.
posted by Citizens for Constitutional Local Government
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BOARD MEMBERS INVOLVED IN THIS CASE SOUND LIKE THEY COULD BE "clones" OF THE SIMPLETONS WHO ARE OUT-OF-CONTROL OVER AT DREAMLAND VILLA COMMUNITY CLUB!
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DreamlandMan
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Posted: Sat Feb 10th, 2007 05:45 pm |
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ITEM: DEED RESTRICTED PROPERTY
Deed-Restricted Property is what all Dreamland Villa Homeowners (except section 6) Now Have......Thanks to our "Good Neighbors" on the DVCC Board (PAST & PRESENT).
Can you afford to give your money away?
October 06, 2004
By Ann Roth
Copyright Ann Roth
A few excerpts:
"If you desire to (1) protect and preserve your home equity, (2) be in control of your financial destiny, and (3) desire to pass down a legacy rather than a liability to your heirs, then don't buy a residential DEED-RESTRICTED property that has a homeowner association. Run in the opposite direction."
"Unpredictable fines, penalties, interest and lawyer fees can be imposed upon the homeowner at the whim of the board for, among other things, an inability to pay the ever increasing association assessments by way of dues, and/or special assessments."
"The Quicksand of the American Dream of Home ownership is none other than Foreclosure by HOA neighbor both Non-judicial and Judicial. If there is ANY way possible, that association board and their attorneys WILL take your house from you. There are a million ways to accomplish that end."
"Any inability to pay association assessments can result in non-judicial foreclosure -- and nobody cares what your excuses were as to why you could not afford to pay, or why you didn't pay. In fact, those neighbors you share coffee and proxies with, will revel in your misfortune. Why? Because it's YOU and not THEM. Your board members will be the last people on earth to care about your excuses."
"The REAL money is in the penalties, attorney fees, and interest. The association and all their co-conspirators will jack those fees up until you choke to death in the quicksand. Your home can be gone in some instances in less than 90 days. Is this really what you had in mind when you moved your family into a homeowners association?"
"In the end, if you desire to pass down a legacy, rather than a liability to your heirs - do not buy into any deed-restricted "property" that is subject to a homeowner association. There are too many factors that are out of your control and in the control of handfuls of so-called "elected" neighbors, who may or may not like you."
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What are the benefits to residents? It certainly is not protecting property values---just the opposite happens when a property is deed-restricted--its value declines!
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DreamlandMan
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