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Posted: Sat Jan 20th, 2007 02:10 pm |
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Annexation is still on the march. Watch the Independant Newspaper for the time and place to sign up. The cost will be $ 1.00 per home . Think very carefully about this, if you read what is still going on in Gilbert, you will see the wisdom of doing this now!
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Posted: Thu Jan 18th, 2007 10:45 pm |
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Does it go against anyone's beliefs that a non profit ( that is a joke ) social club ( welcome to our Bocce Ball court) can have the gall to try to force people to join their wonderful ( another joke) Club? Past experience can predict future events. Look Out Board of Directors, the big feet are coming!
KWAMP KWAMP KWAMP KWAMP KWAMP KWAMP KWAMP
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Posted: Sun Jan 14th, 2007 01:46 pm |
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If you or anybody you know has a legal issue with the DVCC aka Nightmare Villa, you have the choice to contact one of us and be a part of the legal action against the Club. Don't lose by default stand up for your rights. The court will decide as it should be. Get envolved.
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EDITORIAL FROM TODAY'S EAST VALLEY TRIBUNE
Tribune Editorials The best way to repair fractious retirement haven would be a return to voluntary dues payment Tribune Editorial January 13, 2007 The singer Tom Waits once wrote in a song about a dying love affair that “you can’t unring a bell.” Trying to unravel the legal morass that has enveloped Dreamland Villa may be just as difficult, but to us it appears to be the only way to resolve the discord that has cast a cloud over one of the East Valley’s oldest retirement communities.
This 3,000-home development, located on a county island surrounded by east Mesa, was built 45 years ago, before homeowners associations were common in single-family neighborhoods. For decades its clubhouse, wood shop and other amenities were paid for on an elective basis: if residents wanted to use these amenities, they could join the club and pay an annual fee to help with the upkeep.
Today, it can be difficult to buy a home that is not attached to an HOA. But the burdens and benefits of HOAs are well-known and explained, or at least mentioned, up front; most homeowners, unhappy as they may be with their HOAs at times, knew the risks.
But adding en masse to the deed restrictions of an already-occupied subdivision is something that should be done very carefully, and the indications are that, for whatever reason, it wasn’t in Dreamland Villa.
Proponents of mandatory membership, contending everyone should help maintain facilities that added to their property value whether or not they used them, collected signatures from at least half the homeowners in each section. But a sizeable number claim they were never told about the mandatory fees.
In 2004, a vote by those currently belonging to the club was taken, and former members who had stopped paying their dues were not allowed to participate. The one lawsuit filed to question this vote was dismissed on a legal technicality.
As Jason Massad reported in Sunday’s Tribune, 39 homeowners have received summonses for nonpayment of the $92 annual fee, which with penalties and legal fees has in some cases turned into more than $700 in debt on their homes. This could lead to liens or foreclosures.
The board members who started this process appear to have had the good intention of ensuring the community’s assets were maintained long into the future, and possibly giving them more teeth to enforce the age restriction.
But there appear to be enough clouds over the way the situation was handled that the best course of action at this point would be to return to the voluntary membership model that worked reasonably well for four decades, consistently keep nonmembers out of the club haunts, and, if necessary, attempt to bring in mandatory membership with a more transparent process.
Opinions expressed in the editorials, labeled OUR VIEW, are those of the editorial board and the publisher. All other opinions are those of the authors or artists.
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Posted: Sat Jan 13th, 2007 02:07 pm |
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READ THE EDITORIAL IN THIS AM TRIBUNE !!!!!!!!!!!!
It does a nice job of putting the mess the Board and Presidents have created.
"DREAMLAND DOOMED BY CLUB'S FLAWED PROCESS"
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CLOP CLOP CLOP CLOP CLOP, THE BIG FEET ARE COMING !!!!!!!
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Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2007 11:32 pm |
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SHHHHHHHHHH, big feet are coming, clop , clop, clop. The feet of justice!
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Posted: Fri Jan 5th, 2007 11:28 pm |
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More stupid Club updates,
Who really is the President ?? hummmm
How excited is the community about the upcoming vote ? hmmmm
Do they really think people are going to sit still for the latest summons ? Hummmm
Does Madam President ex or whatever really think Concerned Citizens are finished? It won't be finished until we are returned to the orginal deeds and the Club pays back all the money they have extorted from the comunity. Then it will be finished.
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Posted: Wed Dec 20th, 2006 10:34 pm |
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STUPID CLUB UPDATE,
NOW THEY HAVE SERVED OVER 150 HOMES WITH SUMMONS TO APPEAR. BOY THEY SURE KEPT THAT NUMBER QUIET. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THEY HAD 150 PROPERTY OWNERS NOT WILLING TO PAY THEIR MANDATORY DUES ?
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Posted: Wed Dec 13th, 2006 03:23 am |
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The mental midgets at the Club are still at it. Now they expel two members for what ? The Wirtz's and Dorothy Jones. We saw this coming, they are not going to allow anyone with opposition to hold an office, Vote, have any say what so ever in the dumb Club. Who needs it ? Who really cares what they do in there sad little Club house? So the President resigns, and her last official action was to expel the two members and if they don't like they can talk to the lawyer. Humm bet that will be an interesting conversation. Get ready Charlie the collector.
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Tomorrow's the anniversary date of the attack on Pearl Harbor. I lived in Honolulu for 5 years while my husband was in and out of Vietnam. The Arizona Memorial is one of eeriest, and most heartbreaking memorials on earth...I have not had the courage to look at the wall...too many familiar and dear names on it. Now, I find that it has become unfashionable to allow our military to win a war, and occupy a country until it is pacified.
Breaks my heart, but perhaps that is why when I see people demanding the right to sneak around and claim an interest in our homes and wallets it is an old and painful nightmare. Communism is, in theory, the tyranny of a benevolent State. The state owns everything...the property and means and production and doles it out to its cronies as it sees fit.
Like Petra Campean...a dear old gentleman of the old school...I see the same mind set in this club who are demanding that a minority of Sections be forced to pay for the majority who are still able to choose whether or not to be members or pay dues.
How well I remember Jim Cook and Jim Cole vowing that the club would never lien or foreclose on DV property, or fine people if they're late paying up. Still, they are doing it.
Maybe they don't realize that the Russian people voted for the members of the Communist Party? Well, they did. Thing was, only candidates nominated by the party and persons in power were allowed to run for office. Those who tried from the outside were harassed and tormented and if they persisted they were driven from their homes and exiled as (are you ready? DISSIDENTS!) Very interesting choice of words...Don't you think? Petra and I have spent a live time fighting these ideas and assumptions...now, they're back. Same little tyrants running rough shod over the defenseless.
Comrades...all. No Dissidents are allowed on the board either, and their hand picked candidates are the only ones who can be seated...strangely...they never think about it. I look at their most recent appointments...it looks like the Stepford Board...glassy eyed adherence to whatever their master demands. Must be a bitch! Dorothy7
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Posted: Wed Dec 6th, 2006 01:14 pm |
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Dorothy,
First of all the leaders of Nightmare Villa have to be able to read. Second they need to be able to think. Without the legal dog telling them what to do. Thirdly, they need some leadership that can get outside the four walls of the pathetic club house into the real community. Visit the folks they are hammering with their hatefull letters and threats.
NEVER HAPPEN
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Posted: Tue Dec 5th, 2006 07:54 pm |
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News and advise from our leaders at the club.
1. Someone is sending bills for bogus magazine subscriptions to the Board members!! (No kidding? I am getting as many as 4 a day!) Unlike the Board members I do not believe it is another home grown conspiracy...it's a scam probably in cahoots with one of those shady groups who turn kids out to run door to door selling magazines and candy.
2. I called the Postal Inspector's office when I got home. He says to draw a line through your address and write or print "REFUSED, NOT ORDERED. RETURN TO SENDOR."
3. Marvin Madsen was particularly upset at the kind of magazines sent to him. I don't blame him, but he assumed someone angry at his participation in billing people for dues they don't owe, and dead people (Can't imagine why he leapt to that conclusion, guilty concious maybe? Mistreating your old sick neighbors will do that to you Marv') but he can get rid of them by sending them back unopened.
4. Billie is refusing to speak to Vicki in her office. She's been shut up by the board's attorney...Mr. Maxwell. Same song, second verse...They demand she sue to see the ballots she observed being counted, now that she has made an Application to the Court to Order Production of the Ballots, they can't speak.
ARS10-11603.
A. A member's attorney has the same inspection and copying rights as the member the agent or attorney represents. (Vicki, Billie said, is acting as her own attorney) I presume then that if she needs to copy documents she must ask someone in the office to make them available. Can they speak? Who can speak? Only Maxwell on the clock? good thinking guys.
THE PROBLEM HERE, IS THAT THE BOARD COULD END ALL THIS (INCLUDING PAYING ATTORNEY'S FEES) BY MAKING THE BALLOTS AVAILABLE TO COPY, AND THE MEMBER'S LISTS THAT VERIFY THE ELIGIBILITY OF THOSE THOSE COUNTED AS VOTES IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
IF THE VOTE COUNT IS ON THE LEVEL, AND WITHIN THE RULES, IT'S OVER. NO MORE CONFLICT OR HARD FEELINGS.
i AGREE WITH BILLIE ON ONE THING. As she said in "From the President's desk. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Open the damned envelope, count the ballots...and signatures and proxies counted and get on with your life. It's all up to the Board to Decide. Will they pay Maxwell for years of litigation, or open the damned envelope and see who is right?
THEN, MAIL EVERYONE A COPY OF SADR. ASK THEM TO SIGN IF THEY WANT BE IN AN HOA WITH THE THREAT OF LATE FEES, INTEREST LIENS AND FORECLOSURES.
THOSE WHO SIGN WILL MAKE UP THE HOA. THOSE WHO DO NOT WILL BE LEFT ALONE, AND SADR WILL BE REMOVED FROM THEIR DEEDS. FAIR, HONEST AND EASY.
This board and past boards involved in this mess have the means to end it with a single vote of the board. The fact they fail to do so tells me that they dare not for fear of incurring civil liability.
I say, go Vicki!! And do you need any help?
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Posted: Sat Dec 2nd, 2006 03:16 pm |
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Yes Dorothy, we are disappointed also with the Presidents lack of honor and integrity and the way she plays both ends of an issue and hasn't the courage or desire to take a stand on anything. She is an expert at dodge ball and blaming someone else. To bad she can't see through the " Debt Collector " Dude. But that is her problem. And the board of Directors, never have we seen anyone so pumped up with their own self importance. A certain bald headed neighbor comes to mind . With his clipboard and bull crape , he is somethng to behold. And he is quick to attack women, his neighbors and the elderly. One nice find for a new board member who never received a single vote but has the gall to tell people at the office if they don't pay their bill they will be turned over to small claims court. What is that all about ??? But they will never lein anybodies property. Right and if you believe that you love the SADR.
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Posted: Sat Dec 2nd, 2006 02:09 pm |
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Dear CSI, YES, WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE CLUB. WE DO HAVE RIGHTS THAT MUST BE PROTECTED...NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT ANYONE OTHER THAN ONE OF THE CLUB'S SUPPORTERS, OR BOARD MEMBERS HAS THREATENED THEM WITH AN AK-47.
IT'S JUST LIKE THE "PHANTOM "VOTES CAST AT THE JANUARY 2004 MEETING, AND THE "PHANTOM" LAWSUITS THAT MAKES THE BOARD ALLOW THEIR ATTORNEY TO CONCEAL DOCUMENTS FROM MEMBERS REGARDING A N ELECTION.
IN MY CONSIDERED OPINION, THESE GOOFY GUYS ARE WRITING THESE THREATENING NOTES THEMSELVES AND THEN CRYING WOLF! WOLF! WOLF!.
I KNOW, AND SPEAK TO MOST OF THE "DISSIDENTS" ON A REGULAR BASIS. I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE ANY OF THEM WROTE OR THREATENED ANY SUCH THING.
iT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO FIND A HANDWRITING ANALYST TO SEE WHAT HE COULD DISCOVER.
NOW, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO SENT ME CARDS AND CALLED DURING MY RECENT BOUT WITH THE FLU...IT WAS A REAL STINKER...BUT ALL IS WELL AGAIN.
PARTICULARLY, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR ITS NICE CARD, IT MAKES ME HOPE THAT ONE DAY THEY WILL DO THE RIGHT THING TO PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORS AS WELL. THANK YOU ALL.
AND MY GOOD NEIGHBORS WHO MADE PARKING AVAILABLE FOR OUR 40+ GUESTS AT MY MOTHER'S 95TH BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION, AND WHO WERE SO PATIENT WITH OUR COMINGS AND GOINGS.
I HAVE THE BEST NEIGHBORS A PERSON COULD ASK FOR. I WON'T BE MOVING ANY TIME SOON. DOROTHY7.
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Posted: Sat Dec 2nd, 2006 01:16 pm |
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Brrrr!!! This is a nippy morning! Right here in Nightmare Villa...the home of the delusional Board and its 300 or so members and facilities minions...
Did you read Billie's comments about being fed up with Concerned Citizens? And that old standby...MOVE! Well, old gal, ex-defender of the law, and fixture at the office, we did not take the club member's property, or their money that they have not freely donated...no matter what your lying lawyer tells you we are not now, nor have we solicited money for "another lawsuit". (He told Mr. Leckey that, and yes dear, I have it on tape.)
See, you are beginning to believe your own lies hon, and that's how people get into deep trouble, and take their club...which they profess to love...perhaps worship...more than truth, or honor or decency...down with them.
The only people in our little Community who have gone door to door lying about what they wanted to achieve with the signatures of the elderly, infirm and trusting, was the Board and its patsies...it certainly was not Concerned Citizens.
The only residents in this Nightmare scenario who have stolen property and money and are currently setting their dirty dog collection agent onto their neighbors with threats of liens, foreclosure and eviction, and the ever popular "attorney's fees" is the club with you at the tiller; inspired no doubt by those wall flowers who have taken rudeness and incivility to new heighths even for them.
The only credible threats to the safety of residents here are the ones in writing by the club. (I don't know which of you got the bright idea to write hate mail to yourselves but I can find no one else who hopes to gain by it.)
The Ehningers and I hope to persuade the residents that the club is not proceeding legally, and to do what we can to protest and to protect the victims of this outrageous conspiracy to defraud the elderly.
Lastly, I hear now you're calling around trying get dirt on people opposed to your unlawful claims of interest and entitlement from their neighbors.
What a bunch of creeps. I suggest all of you who are hell-bent to steal from your neighbors find a commune somewhere...you'd be much happier there. You can then take whatever you want to amuse yourselves with...since no one will own anything.
Dorothy7.
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Posted: Fri Dec 1st, 2006 12:07 pm |
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Happy that your back on the blog, Dorothy. We missed your information and wisdom. One thing hanging out in our mind, is why do the bunch that call themselves DVCC, have to be so darn rotten and mean in open meetings ? How you and Vicki put up with it is amazing , and of course the " men " in the organization are quick to come to your defense ? Sure sounds like a nice bunch we want to be a part of. Yelling and screaming like they did at the library meeting on annexation. Hi to Mom and Alphie.
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Dorothy is Baa-aack!!! Her VILE comments and all! Wasn't that bunch of wall flowers at the Nov. 14th meeting a hoot? Lawzy me!!! Think about it. Who but that bunch would applaud when the Board and their henchmen vote to hide the ballots of an election held Out of Order to keep more than 500 people from getting inside to vote and rescind? Then, when they failed to garner 2/3 of those present and casting ballots, they scurried around to cast signatures dated in the early spring of '03,from a petition as votes!!...all in the affirmative...the no votes are not recorded, nor membership status, so now we come to a meeting of the board at which Mr. Leckey asked to see the ballots. The board allowed their attorney to hide them!
Their brain dead henchmen applauded!!! The same nit-wits that shouted down a man from the city of Mesa who had been asked to explain the annexation procedure. Not annex them, or support or oppose annexation, just explain the procedure!
If they insist on remaining ignorant, so be it. They could at least have the civil courtesy to shut their big mouths so the rest could hear. When their dreams of fiefdom for us are shattered, I hope we will at least have the civility to listen to their excuses for having been rude, illiterate idiots. Dorothy7
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The big question is when are we all going to get to vote on anything in Nightmare Villa ? The upcoming election of new Board Members will be exciting? NOT they have already been hand picked and decided on. A clue, all lhave been on the board before. Get it ? You can bet no one named Lecky or Grammer or Wirtz or Jones.
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The mean little people like E. M. Christgau that wrote in the Tribune Sunday, that if we don't like it here we should move. Did he not understand the CCR's were changed a long time after a lot of people bought their homes? Did he not understand all of us non members of the Club had no vote? But why cast pearls before dogs?
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Look on page 5 of the November Citizen, Dreamland Villas Official Paper, you will see the Club has received a tax refund of $ 65,635.00 for common area refund. Look up on the Maricopa County Assessors web site the Common Area Project requirements and get mad with us. They have to have all residential Property Owners in the Stupid HOA to qualify, but once again they bend the rules and laws and then brag about it. Must be nice but as a taxpaper it steams us to see this. Get mad with us and write to everyone you can think of and call and get the white hot light of public opinion on this mess. It has got to stop !
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One thing we keep pondering, if the Club has over 4,000 members and they pay dues of 94.00, that should be $ 376.000.00 per year of income on dues alone, not counting rentals and tower fees etc. Now the big question, how can they the Club claim Non Profit Status with that kind of income and how can they get a Property Tax refund from the State on that Basis? Think About Folks !!
PS Get well soon Dorothy
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Response to Dreamland Man: Your concept is certainly reasonable....the problem is that there must be some DVCC rules against a straightforward statement . I can testify that I have been making staightforward statements at board meetings and have attempted to at general membership meetings. Apparently there is an unwritten rule that the Board of Directors has no responsibility to answer for any of their actions- especially to a homeowner. I have made many such statements....including one pointing out that IRAQ now has a Constitution to protect citizens rights..........and the DVCC attorney and board of directors attempted to EXTINGUISH any reference to the Constitution of DVCC, INC. This is very IRONIC isn't it????????
I have asked simple questions like>>>>Can DVCC point out one right that I have as a property owner ???? Can you point out any remedy that the DVCC has available to the homeowners if the board acts unjustly????? That familiar deafening sound of silence is the answer that I have received.
At the general membership meeting , my objections were gaveled as OUT OF ORDER...A board member was allowed to yell ....Sit down Mrs Wirtz and Shut UP!
My objection was proper under Roberts Rules and is a priveleged objection and should have been decided by the Parliamentarian. I might add for clarification that I did not sit down until the President and Parliamentarian gavelled and announced that "Mrs Wirtz you are out of ORDER.'... I must admit that I am getting used to that. Many of my attempts to exercise my rights have been deemed "OUT IF ORDER"
tHE BOARD MEMBER SPEAKING FROM THE FLOOR SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO MAKE INACCURATE COMMENTS AND DEFAME A MEMBER OF THE CLUB AND ALL THIS UNDER " NEW BUSINESS".
I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING THIS EGREGIOUS ACT ...AND HAVE FOUND INFORMATION THAT REQUIRES THAT EVERY WORD SPOKEN MUST BE RECORDED IN THE MINUTES....THE BOARD MEMBERS STATEMENT, MY OBJECTION AND THE PARLIAMENTARIANS' DECISION.....
SO , IN CONCLUSION: YOU HAD A GOOD IDEA THERE BUT IN THIS ENVIRONMENT OF RUDENESS, IMPROPER BEHAVIOR BY THOSE ENTRUSTED WITH "PROTECTING THE DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS OF ITS MEMBERS" IT IS SOMEWHAT FRUITLESS......AT LEAST THAT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE.
tHANKS FOR THE SUGGESTION THOUGH.
MORE LATER ON THIS SUBJECT
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DreamlandMan wrote:
To: Dorothy Jones, John Carpenter, Vicki Wirtz
Hello Friends,
I was thinking about your attendance at tomorrow's Board of Director's meeting and how a very "straight forward" statement could be made by you as individuals or perhaps just one of you.
My thought is this: Tomorrow Americans will exercise their freedom of choice as citizens of this great country. Freedom of choice through voting is something sacred to us and we have fought wars to protect and preserve this right.
Yet on this day when millions nationwide will go to the polls and vote, right here in Dreamland Villa, a large number of residents were not allowed a vote concerning issues that specifically affected their property ownership.
Instead, a small close-knit group of DVCC board members and their hired attorney denied their neighbors this basic right when they recorded deed-restricting attachments to our properties. Included in these deed restrictions, among many other things, is the stated ability of DVCC to initiate property leins and foreclosure of our homes.
I'm sure each board member will cast a vote in Tuesday's general election and feel they've made a contribution to our country's democracy. Yet, these same board members, past and present, won't give it a "second thought" when it comes to their intrusion into "private affairs" of Dreamland Villa property owners.
I think you understand what my point is and the comparison between voting as an American and denial of voting as a Dreamland Villa homeowner.
It would be great if somebody could point this out at the DVCC board meeting on Tuesday.
Take care,
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Why do they have to have an armed guard at the meetings now? What is the Club afraid of? They have done a wonderful job of splitting this community down the middle. Ask yourself what would you do if you received a threating letter from the Club's attorney demanding you pay your " Debt" to the Club or face foreclosure on your home? What would you do ? Pay it ? Ignore it ? Or get mad as hell and not take it anymore. We hope the latter. It is time folks. Get angry and let them know you are not going to pay this threat money. Can it really be that important to the club to threaten Seniors and Widows with loss of their homes ? Write letters to anyone who will listen. Call your Representatives. Your Senators. The Attorney General's office. Send them a copy of your letter. How about TV Stations? Call or write them. Lets get this mess fixed.
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The meeting at the library was well attended. The city official was not prepared to answer the hard questions, especially about the sewer costs. Our take on the meeting was simply put, A Mean Mob of people were there. Shouting and talking and no simple kindness was apparent. This is an emotional question about anexation into the city of Mesa. One only has to ask the simple question, are you willing to wait around for Rural Metro to cancel the fire protection for Nightmare Villa ? Then what are we going to do ? Next time, if there is another meeting, we would hope for a better climate with the audience for those who are trying to do something better for this community.
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To: Dorothy Jones, John Carpenter, Vicki Wirtz
Hello Friends,
I was thinking about your attendance at tomorrow's Board of Director's meeting and how a very "straight forward" statement could be made by you as individuals or perhaps just one of you.
My thought is this: Tomorrow Americans will exercise their freedom of choice as citizens of this great country. Freedom of choice through voting is something sacred to us and we have fought wars to protect and preserve this right.
Yet on this day when millions nationwide will go to the polls and vote, right here in Dreamland Villa, a large number of residents were not allowed a vote concerning issues that specifically affected their property ownership.
Instead, a small close-knit group of DVCC board members and their hired attorney denied their neighbors this basic right when they recorded deed-restricting attachments to our properties. Included in these deed restrictions, among many other things, is the stated ability of DVCC to initiate property leins and foreclosure of our homes.
I'm sure each board member will cast a vote in Tuesday's general election and feel they've made a contribution to our country's democracy. Yet, these same board members, past and present, won't give it a "second thought" when it comes to their intrusion into "private affairs" of Dreamland Villa property owners.
I think you understand what my point is and the comparison between voting as an American and denial of voting as a Dreamland Villa homeowner.
It would be great if somebody could point this out at the DVCC board meeting on Tuesday.
Take care,
Dreamlandman
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INFORMATION FROM VICKI WIRTZ...........LETTER TO DREAMLAND VILLA COMMUNITY CLUB............
To Billie Tapparo as President of Board of Directors of Dreamland Villa Community
Club, Inc.:
To Janet Rossman as Statutory Agent ofDream1and Villa Community Club, Inc.
To Secretary Eugene Meade as Secretary of Dreamland Villa Community Club, Inc.
To any subsequent Statutory Agent or Secretary for the Corporation:
To all Board Members of Dreamland Villa Community Club, Ine
From Vicki Wirtz of 655N 57thPL Mesa, AZ 85205- Membership# 2313
Subject: Inspection (viewing and copying of records) Pursuant to ARS 10-11602, and ARS 11601.
My request for inspection of records of DrearmIand Villa Community Club, Inc has not been satisfied.
The specific records that have not been made available to me are in part: 1. AIl meeting minutes for the last 3 (three) years. All records relating to any action taken by Dreamland Villa Community Club, Inc. members or officers within the last 3(three) years, including but not limited to any and all documents relating to the voting that took place on the January 13,2004 general membership meeting.
All ballots cast related to the voting on the issues in the January 13,2004 general membership meeting.
All proxy ballots/votes and all notices provided by Dreamland Villa Community Club, Inc. to its members as related to the issues of the January 13,2004 general membership meeting.
All records of written communicationto members of Dreamland Villa Community Club, Inc. for the last 3 (three years).
All records relating to any fee agreement entered into by Dreamland Villa Community Club, Inc. with Attorney Charles Maxwell.
All records related to any attorney fees paid by DreamlandVilla Community Club, Inc. for the last 3(three) years.
I am still requesting to '"view and copy" any records related to the proxy/ballot -Including but not limited to the procedures for accepting the ballots and the tallying of the
proxy/ballots printed in the Citizen Newspaper by Dreamland Villa Community Club, Inc. and to any records relating to the proxy/ballots.
My purpose in inspecting these records has clearly been stated previously. I am not anticipating any lawsuit I do not have at present an attorney representing me ..the
statute that allows me to inspect records does not require that I have legal counsel and I decline to accept at this point the directive from the Board of Directors to "get your attorney to get the records" .
You may be assured that I will pay any reasonable copy charges, if I review the records and decide that I would like a copy of said record.
Respectfully,
Vicki Wirtz May 08, 2006
(given to Billie Tapparo in the presence of Tana Ullman and Judy Ford)
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Page 2 0f 2 Date: May 8, 2006
To Billie Tapparo as President of Board of Directors of Dreamland Villa Community Club, Inc.:
To Janet Rossman as Statutory Agent of Dreamland Villa Community Club, Inc.
To Secretary Eugene Meade as Secretary of Dreamland Villa Community Club, Inc.
To any subsequent Statutory Agent or Secretary for the Corporation:
To all Board Members of Dreamland Villa Community Club, Inc
The copies of records that I have received are: the ballot issuance instructions, the cover pages for the filing ofSADR (filed at MaricopaRecorder Office) -An affidavit signed by
James Cook related to the vote count- The tally by Jeanne Loeper re Entrance/attendance of the Jan 13, 2004 membership meeting- copies of purported consents to proposed amendments with heading of DreamlandVilla Sections 1-12 and 14-19.
I also received a copy ofthe teller tally. I appreciate the copies as mentioned in this paragraph and have been reviewing same but still have many questions related to the records that were not made available to me.
Respectfully,
Vicki Wirtz
655 N. 57TH PL. (May 8, 2006)
MESA, ARIZONA 85205
.......INFORMATION FROM VICKI WIRTZ..........
........LETTER FROM DREAMLAND VILLA COMMUNITY CLUB ATTORNEY CHARLES MAXWELL'S OFFICE.......
LAW OFFICES OF
MAXWELL~MORGAN P.C.
Charles E. Maxwell
Brian W. Morgan.
Entrada Executive Plaza
1423 S. Higley Road, Suite 119
Mesa. Arizona 85206
Telephone: 480.833.100
Facsimile: 480.969.8267
October 17.2006
Vicki Wirtz
655 North 57th Place
Mesa, Arizona 85205
Re: Dreamland Villa Community Club ("DVCC")
Dear Ms. Wirtz:
DVCC has provided me with a document dated October 11, 2006, which you claim to be your 32nd request to inspect the records of the January 13, 2004 Meeting. Please consider this
DVCC s final response to your repeated bad faith attempts to request the same records.
(According to prior representations and your recent correspondence, it appears Mr. lanatelli is no longer your attorney. If DVCC' s and my understanding regarding the lack of current representation is incorrect, please advise and I will cause this correspondence to be submitted forthwith to Mr. lanatelli on your behalf)
Thirty-two plus alleged demands for the same records previollsly provided and/or made available to you and your counsel is deemed to be in the utmost of bad faith and for the sole purpose of harassing DVCC and forcing DVCC to incur otherwise unnecessary legal fees.
Such efforts will not be considered hereafter, absent a court order, regardless ofwhich statutes you claim are or are
not applicable. DVCC already assembled documentation and provided the same to your attorney.
The attorney reviewed the documentation and did not object to the production, which production was in response to one of your earlier thirty-two identical requests (using your own terminology). You are fully aware of DVCC's position and the extensive documents provided (many of which are not even required to be maintained by statute), but you still continue to misrepresent the same.
For example, you are aware of the numerous consent signatures attached to the recorded Second Ammended CC&Rs which specifically approved the amendments to the Articles and Bylaws, this information was also provided to your attorney, the fact that you still don't want to accept the Consents as being valid does not change the fact that they are valid.
As you have failed to comply with the very statutes you claim are applicable in this instance, your thirty-second plus request., which request is no different than that DVCC addressed to your prior attorney's satisfaction, is hereby rejected.
Accordingly, in an effort to avoid any further bad faith efforts by you and attempts to further harass DVCC and cause it to incur otherwise unnecessary legal fees, all subsequent requests by you will be rejected, unless accompanied by a specific Court order.
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We just figured it out ! Pickelball is the mess you get into when you allow a voluntary club to file on your property deed and dictate how and when and how much you will pay for the lighted tennis courts and the Pickelball courts. Gee, that is really something we all need. Can you imagine the wheel chairs and canes and dial a ride folks coming to see the younger bunch in action. Lets make a club and have the community pay for all our toys and courts and lights and stuff we want to entertain us in our retirement and snow bird years. My gosh , will this nightmare ever end ?
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Have you read the latest Citizen? You know the official paper of the Nightmare Villa. The president takes off on us about not being members of the Club. Does she think that is an accident? Not, we choose not to be associated with any organization that preys on the elderly and shut ins for dues, interest, fines and penalties that they are trying to forces us to pay. We choose and as long as we have a choice we will continue to make that choice. As far as the secret board meeting, it did in fact take place and we have an eye witness that went to the office on business to find the board of directors and president in meeting in her office. They couldn't get the papers of the desk fast enough and looked like children caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Secret meetings, ballot stuffing, what will they stop at ? But if you are interested take a look on the Superior Court website for case # cv2006-092333. Several members of the club has been trying to get documents that they are entitled to for almost three years now, and had to resort to the court to force the lawyer to open his " Work Product" that really is votes casted by the members on the infamous Jan 2004 meeting where the vote was suppose to change to rules and bylaws of the club to allow the Second Ammended Declarations to be attached to our deeds. If that is proven to be a wrong vote, the whole house of cards fall. So when they , the Club , choose to put the SADR on our property without our vote, we have a dog in this fight and Madam President , we do not have to be members of your Club to know what is going on
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What is really bugging us is the latest appointments to the Board of Dircectors, who are so quick to fry us in the Editorials in the Newspaper regarding anexation to the City of Mesa. What bugs us is the fact that the Good Old boys from the past, you know the ones that started this mess, are all getting back on the Board of Directors. And not as part of the voting process. They are making darn sure no one with a voice of desention is getting on that board. Some really decent people have resigned recently , we can only guess they saw the truth and wanted out of there. Face it they are not a nice bunch to be around if your name isn't Cole, Cook or Zimmerman or White or Wright. Not something we want to be a part of. Some day this will get the public attention it deserves as to what they are really doing when they send out their " Nasty Grams" to sick and elderly and cause them to get a gut ache worrying about if they are going to lose their homes. Pay the dues they say, it is not a lot of money they say, have you ever figured out how much it can be if all 3,000 homes pay it ? Have you thought about following the money and it leads to property management companies and the big plan of merging Velda Rose and DVCC into one big Nightmare commuinty with a whole new set of rules and regulations. Boy we want to be a part of that mess !
R&C
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Ron & Cathy Ehninger wrote: thanks for that information dm. could we have a copy of that information. you know how we are about giving only the truth out. evidence, evidence, evidence 
r/c
I'll make a copy and get it to you in the next day or two. Probably after my appearance at the grand opening of Billy Bob's Radiator Repair Shop and Steakhouse in Payson this Sunday.
You kids out there-----Remember to stay in school and do your homework and you will be a success in life.....Have a great weekend!!!
Dreamlandman  
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thanks for that information dm. could we have a copy of that information. you know how we are about giving only the truth out. evidence, evidence, evidence
r/c
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I received a Fire Service Agreement letter in yesterday's mail and a few things need to be pointed out about services provided for a yearly fee by Rural/Metro.
According to the information I received, Rural/Metro's membership fee of more than $225.00 (for the Dreamlandman household).....DOES NOT INCLUDE AMBULANCE TRANSPORTATION.....also included in the letter is the following: MEMBER UNDERSTANDS NO SPECIFIC RESPONSE TIME IS PROMISED OR GUARANTEED......IN ADDITION--COMPANY SHALL BE EXCUSED FOR FAILURES AND DELAYS IN PERFORMANCE OF ITS OBLIGATIONS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT DUE TO UNAVAILABILITY OF WATER AND/OR INSUFFICIENT WATER PRESSURE.
An enclosed brochure listed benefits (?) that Rural/Metro says it provides to its subscribers.
***They include: Water Utility Assistance (emergency shut-off, etc.)............................
***Poisonous Reptile Removal---does that include snakes like DVCC debt-collector/attorney Charles Maxwell and DVCC Board Members?................
***Specialized Rescue (Swift Water & High Angle) ...................................
***Home Safety Reviews....................
I believe Rural/Metro is really stretching things when it lists these things as benefits available to annual subscribers in Dreamland Villa.
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For those folks worrying about the cost of hooking up to the sewer if they anex to the city of Mesa, go the the ADEQ website and check out the new rules effective July 2006, that pertain to our septic tanks in DVCC. If the property is sold or transfered, the tanks must be inspected by a certified inspector and found to be acceptable to the new rules. They are many and very specific. The fees and permits can total up to $1000.00 so the point is if you think you can hide from this issue and not have to face it, you are wrong. The septic tanks are outdated and need to go away, now or in the future so face it. Polution of the ground water can not go on and on. Pay now or pay later. If you anex into the city they have a program to help us hook up to the sewer. Come to the meeting November 8th at the library at 10:30AM for the answers.
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The dark side is truly the Nightmare Villa bunch and what they are doing to this community. How can it ever be ok to send threating letters to the elderly? How can it ever be ok to force people to join your social club? How can it be ok to sic attorneys on us ? How can it be ok to attach terrible documents like the SADR to our deeds? How can it ??? The dark side is the goings on of the club and board of directors led by the President, who just want to make money and keep the club for a few who have the power, control and greed. Welcome to NIGHTMARE VILLA, where all your retirement nightmares can and will come true.
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THERE WILL BE A MEETING AT THE MESA PUBLIC LIBRARY ON NOVEMBER 8TH AT 10:30 AM TO DISCUSS THE ANEXATION INTO THE CITY OF MESA. THE CITY OFFICIALS WILL BE THERE TO ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS MATTER.
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Beware the Associations Associations Control You and Infringe Upon Your Inalienable Rights!
February 16, 2006
By Sharon Bush JD (View author info)
The Dark Side of Paradise
According to dissenters, nowhere else are private property rights restricted more than in homeowners' associations across the nation. "The entrepreneurship, creativity, sense of individuality that we prize is being ground down relentlessly under the conformity and regimentation that has been foisted on people's homes.
For some owners, a disadvantage of living in an association is the requirement of mandatory membership in the owners' association, with the accompanying financial burdens of dues and assessments, and the possibility of having to abide by majority decisions contrary to the owner's interests or wishes. The financial obligations increase the cost of housing whether or not the owner uses the extra amenities or agrees with the financial decisions made by the association.
Emotionally entrenched board members may indulge themselves in heavy-handed erratic enforcement of the governing documents and make up their own rules, thus violating homeowners' rights. Association boards of directors can take the position of wielding a big stick and conducting themselves unfairly and sometimes outrageously.
 What the homeowner ends up with after the lobbyists and lawyers, and politicians have finished with them. © David Ramirez
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Monday will be a holliday and we can take the time to collect our thoughts. Come Tuesday the magnificent Board Of Directors will be back in their places to deal this community whatever they have up their sleeves. One can only guess. Hopefully all carded members in good standing will be there to watch the goings on. No more recordings seems the recorder is broken. The mins can be available as read. So we are back to the cover up or whatever they choose to call it. Bottom line is that they are running the show and have their agenda. It appears to not include the elderly, the disabled, and those who can ill afford whatever they say the must be paid. From this meeting on it should get very interesting. Keep your eye on the ball and the spotlight on the Board of Directors and President. They made this mess they can fix it and darn soon.
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Ron & Cathy Ehninger wrote: Blue Cap Wonder akna Dreamland Man,
Good stuff thanks for sharing. Ms Dorothy will be using this ASAP. Keep up the good work and the good laundry !
R&C
To R&C:
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I wanted to also praise you on the excellent letter-to-the-editor you had published in last week's Independent. I'll be in contact soon with you both.
I think I have figured out this laundry situation. Thanks.
Dreamlandman
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To CSI-The Witness:
Thanks for the information regarding the recent vote to send out intimidating letters to DV residents. Please keep me informed as to what is discussed during next Tuesday's meeting. Thanks.
Dreamlandman
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| Well, Dreamland Man: I recognize this individual and have the unfortunate position of being in the room at Farnsworth Hall with himself and Howard Zimmerman and Madeline Leckey and "others" when the ballots were counted on Jan 13 2006 during the general membership meeting. I witnessed 488 votes and ballots being counted and tallied only to have Mr Maxwell claim that the vote count did not matter because he had "1200 yes votes" on the changes we were supposedly voting on. He seems |