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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 03:31 pm |
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You know, DVman, the sign they put up is a mystery to me. What could their motive be? Are they claiming that someone deliberately contaminated the pool? If so, who? When, & Why?
I would think they would be more discrete about their problems with hygene in their aging facility, and their lack of supervision of the use of those public facilities. Surely, the Maricopa County Health Department, and the club's primary liability insuror, must have pause when they read a thing like that...specially when it amounts to advertising their deficiencies.
It occurs to me that I've missed something here. Can it be that they have spent all the money they have for maintaining these pools on their lawyer suing 40 homeowners at their behest?
I know. Now they have someone to blame for having to increase the dues to this goofy club that wants mandatory dues and membership for 4,400 owners, while they have facilities that will serve less than 600 for a meeting, and I would estimate if more than 50 showed up to swim on any given day, half would be unable to get in the pool.
Seems to me they are now obligated to offer some service for the $$ they are extorting from owners under threat of lien. I honestly do not believe that anyone would pay over 100.00 for the telephone directory. Do you?
Maybe Tana's life before Dreamland Villa was so impoverished she really does believe this is Utopian? Poor thing. I am ashamed of my derisive laughter now, and I humbly apologize; if that is the case.
Still, I would not get into any of these old pools with a bunch of adults wearing rubber pants with loose elastic, or without. Yuk! Dorothy7
Maybe they should rethink their priorities, and the law?
How can a thing like this happen in Utopia? tsk tsk. Dorothy 7
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Hello Dorothy,
Good to hear from you. I hope things are going well for you. Keep the faith and hopefully the wrong that was done by the corrupt clan and their shark lawyer over at DVCC will eventually be corrected.
Take care,
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Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 12:53 am |
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| You are a priceless treasure DVman!!! The fecal matter probably came from the same place it always does.... the loose elastic on the incontinent rubber pants. That is what I have always said about swimming in these pools...this is not vandalism...nor was it the times before. Swim there at your own peril! Thanks DVman. Dorothy7
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.....CLOSED DUE TO FECAL INCIDENT.....
(Current sign at Farnsworth Hall Pool)
It appears DVCC Board Members are not the only one's that are full of it
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| What does the verse mean? Have I missed something? Dorothy7
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There was a form printed to allow people to have their signature removed from the list of residents approving mandatory membership. It was placed at every residence.
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Where is Avery? Gone, but not forgotten? In hiding as the club tries to come up with the money for next year's lawsuits??? Oh yes! The 209 club members who voted to hire their very own HOA lawyer to "guide them through" the transition from what to what? No one is sure. There are 4,400 owners who should have had an opportunity to vote on this "transition" and hiring a lawyer. First, they insisted they were not an HOA, or planned community...(despite the board's insisting that they were, and always had been, a "planned community". Then, when they got into court, they were just a little private social club, with voluntary members, who were chartered as an Arizona nonprofit corporation.
Based on that assertion, they obtained a dismissal of their first lawsuit...since obviously they were not a planned community nor an association at that time...then, still outside the legal definitions of either, their lawyer starts referring to the club as "the association" in pleadings on the next go round when Mrs. Wirtz, in her capacity of an elections official demanded to see the ballots and signatures cast as ballots, and to challenge the club's declaring that the changes to the Articles, Constitution and Bylaws were changed on January 13, 2004 without ever being put up for approval at the February elections as required in the existing (at that point) governing documents. She won that case, and the club was forced to reveal the ballots and other crap they'd counted as ballots in favor.The ugly reality is that the club has become the tool of a lawyer who has cost them over 100,000.00.
Now, we are careening toward the big time appeals. God only knows how much they will owe him at the end of this because I can assure you that the court of appeals in the Superior Court is just the first step in getting this story out and before the higher courts where it seems that the basic violations of the law and the private property rights are finally understood.
These are going to be hard times for retired folks over the next few years. Their property values have plummeted during the board's attempt to steal an interest in all the property in this development, and their lawyer drives a Mercedes Van to and from his meetings with them.
The first steps the court and politicians will have to take is to outlaw mandatory membership in all HOAs to avoid massive foreclosures. The cost of power is going to sky rocket under "cap and trade" legislation that has been approved by the congress. Taxes will soar, and inflation will eat your retirement income faster than the Fed can print money...while the club keeps paying their lawyer, and filing another 40 or 50 lawsuits every year. Please try to think further than your next trip to the swimming pools...(that give me the creeps and I have avoided using at all costs).
They have just finished another redo on the office???? Maybe they can justify more steal curtains to protect themselves from their "overwhelming majority"? Crooks are always paranoid...with d**ned good reason. They think everyone is like them...plotting and scheming to steal someone else's property. Enough!!! It's summer! Enjoy. Dorothy
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Posted: Wed May 27th, 2009 12:40 pm |
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Avery: I'm still waiting for you to admit you were mistaken...the Board filed 40 lawsuits in the Justice Court on December 12, 2006 against our neighbors. The same day they unlawfully tried to expel Vicki and her husband from membership, and tried to expel me in violation of the law and the club's rules.
When a person chooses sides, they need to make an attempt to discover the truth and demand that the board stop these outrageous attacks on all of us, and their unlawful attempts to control the private property of all owners in DV on the sneak.
I really don't believe you would support the board and their attorney if you knew the truth of what they have been doing to our neighbors. It is imperative that we all turn our attention to this criminal fraud, and put a stop to it! Dorothy
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Posted: Fri May 22nd, 2009 04:27 pm |
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averymatte wrote: Dorothy;
Here you go again, with your deciet and half truths. Everything the board does is in open meetings (except personnel matters), printed in the Citizen, minutes recorded, records kept. The Club was sued by residents and the judgement was in favor of the Club. The Court says the Club followed the law and everything was legal!
Property values in the Communty fell no further than EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY so that statement is as mute as every other statement you make.
There was a form printed to allow people to have their signature removed from the list of residents approving mandatory membership. It was placed at every residence.
Tell the reader (if there is one) whom did our lawyer sue?
One couple took the Club to court, it was dismissed because they weren't members! Another person took the Club to court to get copies of the ballots. Another group took the Club to court over the legallity of the mandatory membership! So far the Club hasn't sued anyone.
Now there is an appeal in court (by the Club) to get attorney's fees from the group that sued the Club!
Avery, dear Avery: Are you unaware that the club is currently in the appeals court ? They are in the appeals court trying to obtain attorney's fees for the one judgement they have in their favor, and to respond to a cross complaint filed by the attorney for the 40 homeowners who are defending themselves against a lawsuit filed by the club (DVCC board of directors) on December 12, 2006.
This was done at a Board Meeting in my presence and is recorded in full on my little digital recorder.
That is also the meeting at which the Board tried to expel me and Vicki so that their attorney could claim Vicki had lost standing to sue after her unlawful expulsion.
The Court ruled for Vicki, and the club had to turn over ballots, signatures and a hokey member's list without memership numbers because they'd "lost" the membership list conveniently.
So, let's see. The truth is, the Board has sued 40 homeowners, and the members have sued the board twice. It's on the internet under Maricopa County Superior Court. Take a look, the defendant homeowner's names are all listed on the complaint.
You might also read the ruling of Judge Whitton's Court...it is very interesting, and wrong! I hope the appellate court will find in the homeowner's favor.
It might interest you to know that there is a House Bill that is under consideration by a committee that would require all HOAs in AZ to permit every owner to withdraw from the HOA in writing at any time. I intend to encourage the committee to report it out for approval soon, and then, Avery this question will be moot. Dorothy7
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Posted: Thu May 21st, 2009 02:55 pm |
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Dorothy;
Here you go again, with your deciet and half truths. Everything the board does is in open meetings (except personnel matters), printed in the Citizen, minutes recorded, records kept. The Club was sued by residents and the judgement was in favor of the Club. The Court says the Club followed the law and everything was legal!
Property values in the Communty fell no further than EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY so that statement is as mute as every other statement you make.
There was a form printed to allow people to have their signature removed from the list of residents approving mandatory membership. It was placed at every residence.
Tell the reader (if there is one) whom did our lawyer sue?
One couple took the Club to court, it was dismissed because they weren't members! Another person took the Club to court to get copies of the ballots. Another group took the Club to court over the legallity of the mandatory membership! So far the Club hasn't sued anyone.
Now there is an appeal in court (by the Club) to get attorney's fees from the group that sued the Club!
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This is a classic, Avery...blame the victims! Somehow I am responsible for the board and its dastardly attorney...old Snidely Whiplash...sueing 40 elderly homeowners? I am responsible for trying to defend my property from a gang of thieves who sneaked down to the recorders and filed controlling interest in my property without my knowledge or consent??
A series of long standing lies, no matter how often repeated in a boring little rag that does not allow opposing views to see print...ever...still does not make them true.
Such as: Holding "open meetings". There were none. The only meeting at which non-members were present cost them $1.00 to attend; then the only defense the Board offered to the charges of grand theft...was old Snidley telling us that DV had always been an HOA...just a voluntary one. Yeah, Right!
I repeat, and there is no question of it now...even yet...over $100,000.00 for a lawyer later, and still you won't admit that for forty years any DV owner who wanted to join the club could do so. According to the Minutes in 2002, and 2003 less than half the lot owners belonged to the club!
Less than half!
Since your association with this moronic scheme based on forcing people to submit to your authority was begun, our property values have dropped into a black abyss..and are still falling.
Think how many weeds the club could have cut with $100,000.00. Think how many "improvements" could have been accomplished!
Avery dear, I have two suitcase files full of names...notarized signatures...of lot owners...trying to save their property..1,100 is almost half the owners...and I have many more now.
Finally.
ALL THE BOARD HAD TO DO WAS SEND COPIES OF THE "NEW CC&RS" TO OWNERS AND ASK THEM TO SIGN, AFTER HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE 17 PAGES OF TERMS THEREIN.
Those who signed...that is to say, executed the contract in the normal legal way, would then be mandatory members...those who did not would not be members, and would receive no benefit from the club.
No need to pay a lawyer to sue your neighbors, and threaten to foreclose on their property. Hmmm wonder why they didn't do that?
Liars and theives just can't help lying and stealing I guess. Dorothy7
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Posted: Wed May 20th, 2009 03:50 pm |
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Dorothy, Dorothy
Hasn't your vindetta cost your friends and neighbors enough? Yes or No!
This next exert has nothing to do with your response but it needs to be on the site!
On the lastest accusations in the Independents public forum! Maricopa County has always had weed control ( landscaping as some call it) rules and regulations and since we are part of a County Island, we (every resident) are obliged to obey the laws. Some of us for one reason or another decide that the laws don't apply to us so we ignore them. What choice does the community have dealing with residents that do not respond to letter after letter to work with the community to find an resolution? After a couple of months of OPEN meeting the board adopted the guide lines and had to add the enforcement penalties.
Laws without recourse are worthless.
As with the challenge you help orchistrate 1-2 % of a group can cause the other 98-99% grief! So 1-2% of residents not concerned about the appearance of their property affects the rest of the community.
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Posted: Thu May 14th, 2009 02:50 pm |
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averymatte wrote:
Seniors: Do Your Homework!
We have lived in Dreamland Villa almost ten years and have been through the mandatory membership change. There was a group formed to challenge the change. They called themselves the Concerned Citizens. Under the influence of this Group, about 24 people filed a lawsuit against the Club for changing of the CC&R’s making membership mandatory. The Court heard the case and decided in favor of the Club. It would take pages to explain the case and the decision. In brief the court ruled that the Club followed the law! The majority of the residents agreed to change to mandatory membership, not the Board (which is a continuing changing board), not the Club!
All of this at great expense to the all residents, plaintiffs and defendants!
The ones that formed the dissident Concerned Citizen group protected their personal assets so they had nothing to lose!
Now there is another dissident group, Dreamland Villa Property Rights Inc. sending out literature! WARNING! Read everything carefully, have your family legal advisor go over it with you! This group has nothing to do with Dreamland Villa Community Club!
Dreamland Villa Resident
Dear Avery: How nice to be able to respond to your comments...albeit they are so wrong. DVCC liened 40 DV residents! They are not suing DVCC, the club is suing them and paying Maxwell $$$$ to do so.
My story is exactly like the majority of residents in DV. I live within shouting distance of Read Hall. Yet, when they were solciting signatures to approve a 16 page "contract" to make DV an HOA, they did not send me one...or throw me a Citizen in which they had published the terms of that contract...or gave me notice that they had attached those covenants to my deed on January 2, 2004.
Maxwell told me at the crooked meeting he conducted on January 13, 2004 when he would not allow me to cast 114 proxy votes against approving the amendments to the governing documents, and approving those SECRET covenants.
You are very foolish to submit the control of your property to this board, or any other who may be elected by the tiny fraction of owners who attend their silly, boring meetings.
You will regret bitterly the loss of controlling interest in your property. The Board is made up of very deceitful unsophisticated people who are being led around by the nose by their attorney, and inflicting great harm on their neighbors.
Nothing they can do, or fail to do will stop the aging of the facilities and homes in this old development. NOTHING! Who can afford to invest in the upgrading of 50 year old out-of-date ranchers? They have lost nearly half their value in the past four years...while I was b**ching. Wake up Avery...Dorothy7
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I forgot, it's I...Dorothy7 aka ddj
It seems to me that we've all forgotten the beginning of the scheme to defraud. The Board, (most of the same goofy guys who fell for this scam are still over there with the hook firmly planted in their gizzards) is now making rules they swore, they vowed, they assured us all that "they would never lien DV property"..(lie) That :"they were not an association...or a planned community", and/or frequently "they are a planned community as set down by Joe Farnsworth in 1960"
It's bizzaro time if you believe that they have "done a good job protecting our property values" I recently went through the assessor's site to check on the actual cash values of DV property since 2004 when this bunch sneaked down and unlawfully attache 16 pages of new restrictions on our deeds without notice. Our property values of tanked! The average loss since this fraud was begun is 48% of your total value! Not only have they not done a reasonably competent job, they announced in the Citizen, in March 2003 that; "We are not going to publish the new CC&Rs due to space requirements", and: Owners can go down to the recorders and read them, or come to the office."
Mind you, the next month they went door to door collecting signatures to approve something the overwhelming majority of owners did not know existed.
If this had been a legitimate attempt to amend THEY WOULD HAVE MAILED COPIES OF THE "NEW CC7Rs" to every owner; then asked the owners to sign a copy.
If this had been a legitimate attempt to amend, they would have mailed out or delivered a copy of the "New CC&Rs" to every lot, with an explanation that it would allow the Board to fine, lien, and foreclose, as well levy "special assessments" in whatever amounts they choose.
Oh well, the fat lady isn't singing yet, and eventual damage to the club is increasing with every new demand they make. ddj.
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| See you then, Pat! Amen, and Amen about the Whitten verdict. My computer's been down and I've missed the info, but am in the process of catching up.
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CORRECTION TO COURT DATE AND TIME, HOPE EVERYONE CAN ATTEND:
Hearing Date: May 12, 2009
Time: 10:15 AM
Place: Arizona Court of Appeals, Division 1, Department A
1501 W Washington
Phoenix
Second Floor....Room 2
advocate3692 wrote: Dreamland residents: The Court was wrong in their decision and there was more to it than you state.
As to the vote to change to a MANDATORY HOA, it is ILLEGAL to allow only a few to vote....your deed is YOUR deed, it doesn't belong to the Board of Directors.
When you are changing deeds on PRIVATE PROPERTY, the OWNER must be allowed to vote and that absolutely did not happen.
Maybe you need to freshen up on your PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS as given to you by the U S CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS.
And to the poster who said ALL the money from assessments goes for "the maintenance", not exactly!! HOW MUCH OF THE ASSESSMENT MONEY HAS THE BOARD PAID TO THE HOA ATTORNEY, Charles Maxwell???
Pat
Attend the Court of Appeals hearing on May 21, 2009
advocate3692 is absolutely correct!
Money from Dreamland Villa residents, thanks to DVCC board members (past and present) comprises a major 'meal ticket' for the DVCC attorney.
DV residents were never informed that their signatures on petitions (supposedly for the purpose of maintaining DV as a 55-plus community----which was an outright deception to begin with) would result in having numerous pages of restrictions attached to their property deeds.
Mandatory DVCC membership is not anything remotely close to what an HOA is. Among many other things, a HOA contracts with a property management company......that's not the case in DV. So by calling the enforcement of mandatory DVCC membership a HOA is totally incorrect.
Besides being wrong, continually saying that DV has a HOA only gives unfounded credence to those DVCC mental midgets who, in their lust for control and greed, love hearing that what they've done is now being referred to as an HOA. They're stupid enough to believe that this gives them legitimacy.
Let's not give those idiots anything more to feed their egos.
There's no HOA!.....But there is Mandatory DVCC Membership that includes deed attachments (recorded secretly with Maricopa County) that, among other things, states that failure to pay annual dues can result in liens placed on properties.
Also, these deed attachments specify that DVCC Board Members can also enact special assessments (in addition to annual club fees) to fund pet projects. Also, DV residents, upon sale of their homes, are now required to pay a 'transfer fee' (presently $250 but an increase to $1,000 is being studied).
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cookie wrote:  Nothing is recorded secretly, it is all a matter of public record. For 4 years you stupid people have b**ched, now is the time to get with the program. We have a planned community because you got old and did not want to pay for the club, keep up your yards so the neighbors coud be proud of the community, The board does a great job and the best thing that has happened is the independent has found there is wonderful news out there besides b**ching old people in Dreamland that have nothing to do but find falt with everything. MOVE if you hate it so bad, call a realtor and sell, don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave....
Cookie,
How would you know nothing is "secret"? Are you willing to bet your house that everything is according to State Statute and the Governing documents, even though those documents are not legal or valid.....
People who don't think like you are not "stupid", only stupid people argue with personal insults. As to your statements in your last sentence, they are truly confrontational. I would forgive you because I know you have been brainwashed by the Board and the HOA Attorney.
So I only smile at your willingness to stay uneducated and uninformed but I won't give up on you....if you would tone down your attitude you might be able to listen to others who actually know!
Have a nice day.....see you on May 12 
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| Nothing is recorded secretly, it is all a matter of public record. For 4 years you stupid people have b**ched, now is the time to get with the program. We have a planned community because you got old and did not want to pay for the club, keep up your yards so the neighbors coud be proud of the community, The board does a great job and the best thing that has happened is the independent has found there is wonderful news out there besides b**ching old people in Dreamland that have nothing to do but find falt with everything. MOVE if you hate it so bad, call a realtor and sell, don't let the door hit you in the ass when you leave....
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advocate3692 wrote: Dreamland residents: The Court was wrong in their decision and there was more to it than you state.
As to the vote to change to a MANDATORY HOA, it is ILLEGAL to allow only a few to vote....your deed is YOUR deed, it doesn't belong to the Board of Directors.
When you are changing deeds on PRIVATE PROPERTY, the OWNER must be allowed to vote and that absolutely did not happen.
Maybe you need to freshen up on your PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS as given to you by the U S CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS.
And to the poster who said ALL the money from assessments goes for "the maintenance", not exactly!! HOW MUCH OF THE ASSESSMENT MONEY HAS THE BOARD PAID TO THE HOA ATTORNEY, Charles Maxwell???
Pat
Attend the Court of Appeals hearing on May 21, 2009
advocate3692 is absolutely correct!
Money from Dreamland Villa residents, thanks to DVCC board members (past and present) comprises a major 'meal ticket' for the DVCC attorney.
DV residents were never informed that their signatures on petitions (supposedly for the purpose of maintaining DV as a 55-plus community----which was an outright deception to begin with) would result in having numerous pages of restrictions attached to their property deeds.
Mandatory DVCC membership is not anything remotely close to what an HOA is. Among many other things, a HOA contracts with a property management company......that's not the case in DV. So by calling the enforcement of mandatory DVCC membership a HOA is totally incorrect.
Besides being wrong, continually saying that DV has a HOA only gives unfounded credence to those DVCC mental midgets who, in their lust for control and greed, love hearing that what they've done is now being referred to as an HOA. They're stupid enough to believe that this gives them legitimacy.
Let's not give those idiots anything more to feed their egos.
There's no HOA!.....But there is Mandatory DVCC Membership that includes deed attachments (recorded secretly with Maricopa County) that, among other things, states that failure to pay annual dues can result in liens placed on properties.
Also, these deed attachments specify that DVCC Board Members can also enact special assessments (in addition to annual club fees) to fund pet projects. Also, DV residents, upon sale of their homes, are now required to pay a 'transfer fee' (presently $250 but an increase to $1,000 is being studied).
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Dreamland residents: The Court was wrong in their decision and there was more to it than you state.
As to the vote to change to a MANDATORY HOA, it is ILLEGAL to allow only a few to vote....your deed is YOUR deed, it doesn't belong to the Board of Directors.
When you are changing deeds on PRIVATE PROPERTY, the OWNER must be allowed to vote and that absolutely did not happen.
Maybe you need to freshen up on your PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS as given to you by the U S CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS.
And to the poster who said ALL the money from assessments goes for "the maintenance", not exactly!! HOW MUCH OF THE ASSESSMENT MONEY HAS THE BOARD PAID TO THE HOA ATTORNEY, Charles Maxwell???
Pat
Attend the Court of Appeals hearing on May 21, 2009
averymatte wrote:
Seniors: Do Your Homework!
We have lived in Dreamland Villa almost ten years and have been through the mandatory membership change. There was a group formed to challenge the change. They called themselves the Concerned Citizens. Under the influence of this Group, about 24 people filed a lawsuit against the Club for changing of the CC&R’s making membership mandatory. The Court heard the case and decided in favor of the Club. It would take pages to explain the case and the decision. In brief the court ruled that the Club followed the law! The majority of the residents agreed to change to mandatory membership, not the Board (which is a continuing changing board), not the Club!
All of this at great expense to the all residents, plaintiffs and defendants!
The ones that formed the dissident Concerned Citizen group protected their personal assets so they had nothing to lose!
Now there is another dissident group, Dreamland Villa Property Rights Inc. sending out literature! WARNING! Read everything carefully, have your family legal advisor go over it with you! This group has nothing to do with Dreamland Villa Community Club!
Dreamland Villa Resident
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| The short answer is that ALL your dues go for the maintence of the club. (only)
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Seniors: Do Your Homework!
We have lived in Dreamland Villa almost ten years and have been through the mandatory membership change. There was a group formed to challenge the change. They called themselves the Concerned Citizens. Under the influence of this Group, about 24 people filed a lawsuit against the Club for changing of the CC&R’s making membership mandatory. The Court heard the case and decided in favor of the Club. It would take pages to explain the case and the decision. In brief the court ruled that the Club followed the law! The majority of the residents agreed to change to mandatory membership, not the Board (which is a continuing changing board), not the Club!
All of this at great expense to the all residents, plaintiffs and defendants!
The ones that formed the dissident Concerned Citizen group protected their personal assets so they had nothing to lose!
Now there is another dissident group, Dreamland Villa Property Rights Inc. sending out literature! WARNING! Read everything carefully, have your family legal advisor go over it with you! This group has nothing to do with Dreamland Villa Community Club!
Dreamland Villa Resident
Last edited on Thu Mar 26th, 2009 02:38 pm by averymatte
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Posted: Wed Mar 11th, 2009 03:54 pm |
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| Dreamland and Velda Rose are wonderful places to live, the homes are reasonable, lots of activities and close to shopping and hospitals. We have 4,000 homes and only a handful of negative people, just like all communities, These few are not happy anywhere. What I would like to see are the HOA's crack down on peoples yards. It is a ashame that we have to tell our neighbors to clean their yards. Come look at our homes for sale and ignore the cranky ones. The rest of us are GREAT.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11th, 2009 05:05 am |
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Any resident can store their RV in their backyard! All of the information is printed in the Dreamland phone directory and in your copy of the CC&Rs. You can check in the office and have any questions you may have answered!
Nothing hidden, no backdoor deals, all meetings open to members, all papers available to members, financial reports published in the monthly paper, meeting minutes published in the monthly paper!
Get involved, find out what is going on, join your friends & neighbors that enjoy life in an active retirement community!
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Posted: Wed Mar 11th, 2009 04:03 am |
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| Dreamland Villa with all the shady backdoor deals, backstabbing, power brokering and bickering has become the laughingstock of the East Valley. You idiots who are furthering your agenda at the expense of long term residents are a disgrace. Any person who is considering purchasing a home there needs to have their head examined.
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Posted: Wed Mar 11th, 2009 03:15 am |
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| How was it determined that only residents currently owners can use their back yard to store motor homes. Why was it decided that new home owners owners would not be allowed the same privilege?
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Posted: Thu Feb 26th, 2009 07:01 pm |
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newrock; the facts:
Because of a notice of violation of the County Dust regulations, the Dreamland Board of Directors with the input of the people that live ajacent ( that were concerned enough to attend the annouced meetings) to the Nature Walk made the decision to put a chain across the maintainance road.
The Nature Walk rules are!
10. Only OWNER/RESIDENT vehicles or vehicles AUTHORIZED by DVCC shall be driven on the Nature Walk. (For the purpose of this rule Owner/Resident is defined as one whose property is adjacent to the Nature Walk)
Driving speed shall be "walking pace", defined as not to exceed 3 miles per hour.
Residents desiring acess for permitted storage of their vehicles, shall pay a refundable key deposit of $50.00. When the key is returned the deposit shall be returned/paid on the next regular check writing day.
The only reason there is a driveway through the area is for power line maintainance.
When Dreamland purchased the property they allowed limited authorized vehicle use. The main use was parking for RVs. It was being used on a daily basis by a few home owners resulting in the Dust Complaint to the County.
The Club (by law) has to control the dust. We hand delivered notices, had open meetings, had the information printed in the Citizen and came up with what we did to protect the community as a whole!
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Posted: Wed Feb 25th, 2009 07:49 pm |
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| Dreamalnd Villa has chained off vehicle access to the SRP Easement in Mesa. Adjacent property owners were led to believe that they could borrow a key from the office for $50, allowing them to have limited access to their back yards. Not so! We ordered new rocks for the front and back yard and requested a key so they could be delivered to the front and back. The Dreamland office refused our check. They said that they would "allow owners a key ONLY if they wanted RV ACCESS." I was told to "carry the rocks from the front." They are in charge, they make the rules...
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