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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Life is truly difficult at times. That must be such a hardship, I can't even imagine it.
You have kids in high school, right?
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| Life is truly difficult at times. That must be such a hardship, I can't even imagine it.
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| Plus, the students only needed a parent to sign a form and watch a video at the beginning of the school year. Then their ID reflected that they are allowed to leave campus at lunch time. Now, the parent/s has to sign them out every time they want their student to be able to leave at lunch. Grandparents, aunts uncles etc. are not allowed to sign them out. Last edited on Mon Jan 28th, 2008 10:27 pm by integrityforPUSD
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RDG, there is a huge difference in being able to sign them out as per last year's policy, than in having to go in to the school office every day. It was set up to be intentionally inconvenient and unreasonable.
If you're going to set up a strawman, then you need to do better.
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: integrityforPUSD wrote:
Oh please don't bother..the only thing I know about those two are commercials..I have never watched them...in fact I rarely watch anything on TV.
Miss Kitty
I'm sorry but I can see your nose growing. I would bet South Park is a regular staple of yours also.
You are getting your cartoon characters mixed up with story book characters. If I don't watch TV I sure couldn't and wouldn't watch South Park.
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Joewrites4rights wrote:
"If we truly looked at what we are trying to achieve by closing our campuses, we should go about it in a more humane and logical way. Instead of treating students as "captives" of the educational system, we should treat them as clients of the system, for that is truly what they are. We are here to serve them, not to control them. We should ask ourselves why the student feels so compelled to leave at lunch....why do they enjoy life away from school so much more than life AT school? What could we as a district do, to encourage the students to stay, to get them to actually want to spend lunch on campus? The answer comes with open attempts (not forced ones) to produce an environment worthy of the students patronage. Just like the real world....the government has no business forcing failed ideas and ways onto people."
Under the current policy is it not true that the students can leave campus at lunch?
If they can leave, why are you calling them captives?
And if they are allowed to leave campus at lunch, doesn't that require parental permission?
Isn't this type of parental permission, under the new policy, also acceptable at anytime should the student have to leave campus for any reason?
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integrityforPUSD wrote:
Oh please don't bother..the only thing I know about those two are commercials..I have never watched them...in fact I rarely watch anything on TV.
Miss Kitty
I'm sorry but I can see your nose growing. I would bet South Park is a regular staple of yours also.
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Miss Kitty You didn't appear to be a Bevis and Butthead kind of gal. I've gained new respect for you.....
Oh please don't bother..the only thing I know about those two are commercials..I have never watched them...in fact I rarely watch anything on TV.
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| Miss Kitty You didn't appear to be a Bevis and Butthead kind of gal. I've gained new respect for you.....
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Posted: Mon Jan 28th, 2008 12:42 pm |
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| Now see...Joe Bernier sound reasonable and sane. Much more so than the Bevis and Butthead approach that the three of you take.
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Wow.....you guys are genuinely hilarious.....I'll chime in with the (Van Halen's version of "Happy Trails") Bum ba dee da, bum ba dee da, bum ba dee da dee da dee da......
To address those who had questions of me while I was gone. Someone stated I have been hostile or belligerent while addressing the board. Please...get real. I have never been out of line. I have always held my cool...even when the board member didn't. And as far as the "when I was in school" thing. I NEVER waited in line for more than 5-10 minutes for my food....which BTW.....was delicious and made from scratch on site.
I think it was RUKidding that stated "when I went to school, parents called the shots".....I agree with that point. You will be happy to know that it IS me calling the shots in my house. And like you said.....It should be me calling the shots on where my kids eat lunch, just like I've been doing for the past four years. My kids ASK me to go to lunch off campus.....sometimes I say no and they don't go. Sometimes they ask to go to a certain place and I say no, but you can go here. Sometimes I say yes.....sometimes I meet them for lunch.....sometimes they run an errand for the family or themselves at lunch. See....I'm parenting....I'm in control of my own high school students. I'm teaching them responsibilities. That's what being a parent is. Now....you may not like or agree with my parenting style (just as I may not like or agree with yours)....but you nor the district has any right to interfere with it, or interfere with our time.
rdg....I've mentioned ways to improve school lunchtime conditions so many times....over and over....but all anybody wants to do here is argue with me....so I'm not going to say it all again. What I will state is the logic behind all of my research (remember...two binders full) along with the best advice I have received so far from a school administrator.....here goes....
"If we truly looked at what we are trying to achieve by closing our campuses, we should go about it in a more humane and logical way. Instead of treating students as "captives" of the educational system, we should treat them as clients of the system, for that is truly what they are. We are here to serve them, not to control them. We should ask ourselves why the student feels so compelled to leave at lunch....why do they enjoy life away from school so much more than life AT school? What could we as a district do, to encourage the students to stay, to get them to actually want to spend lunch on campus? The answer comes with open attempts (not forced ones) to produce an environment worthy of the students patronage. Just like the real world....the government has no business forcing failed ideas and ways onto people."
This administrator is a seasoned, intelligent, award winning member of one of the states largest school districts.(not PUSD) His district has done the most to serve the students in their "closed campus"...which, by the way, STILL allows for parental permission. Their students are allowed to freely roam the entire campus. At lunch they play basketball, frisbee, tennis, wallball, dodgeball, three flys up etc. They NEVER spend more than 12 minutes in line for their food. There are over 20 points of sale at their campus. If students do spend more than 12 minutes in line...the staff is consulted and reminded that anything over 12 minutes is a failure of customer service. He has the STUDENTS best interests at heart.
Our three board members (that are against parental permission) would never give the administrators the tools to operate such a sucessful operation....they don't care enough about the students to do so.
How many of you have actually thought about what a closed campus is really about. It's about control. And before ANY of you go off on me....read the National Educational studies done on this subject......everyone of the studies touts the "control factor". "We must control the students behavior" and "the best way to do that is to control their every movement"....what a bunch of nonsense. What gets overlooked in this is the logic of positive and negative influences upon a person, and how those influences effect their behavior. In order to control someone, you must be able to influence their behavior. And emotions are the keys to behavior. Someone in a negative emotional state will react to any situation negatively. Conversely, someone in a positive emotional state will react to any situation positively. Therefore....if you want positive behavior...you must create a positive environment for that person. This concept is so simple...but yet it is overlooked because we have people in charge that just don't care about anyone else but themselves. Joe Bernier
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: integrityforPUSD wrote:
Nice story Youareajoke, you missed your calling. Perhaps you should start a blog and name it the continuing saga of youareajoke, aka areyoukiddingme.
Not a bad idea there, Miss Kitty:
Continuing saga of youareajoke, aka areyoukiddingme.
There was an uneasy calm that Sunday night in the Long Branch Forum. There were a few patrons who were dropping by to exchange their normal discourse. They all knew at any time could hear that clomp, clomp, clomp and they would know the Marshall Joe is back from prison and the atmosphere would change in a heartbeat as all hell will break loose....
You are making me laugh..please continue your story..
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integrityforPUSD wrote:
Nice story Youareajoke, you missed your calling. Perhaps you should start a blog and name it the continuing saga of youareajoke, aka areyoukiddingme.
Not a bad idea there, Miss Kitty:
Continuing saga of youareajoke, aka areyoukiddingme.
There was an uneasy calm that Sunday night in the Long Branch Forum. There were a few patrons who were dropping by to exchange their normal discourse. They all knew at any time could hear that clomp, clomp, clomp and they would know the Marshall Joe is back from prison and the atmosphere would change in a heartbeat as all hell will break loose....
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| The last article I read said that Preston took out the papers, but that Joe actually filed for the recall number.
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| Miss Kitty Do you really believe that?
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rdg7359 wrote: integrityforPUSD wrote: I wonder why all of you seem to be just as interested in the lunch issue as Joe Bernier is. Apparently this is the only issue that keeps your fires burning as well. None of you have made a real attempt to address the other issues that have been brought up, or to really defend the behavoirs of the board members..
Because Joe has tried to turn and twist this to his advantage in a bid to recall Knecht for publicly humiliating his daughter.
rdg7359, I thought you were following this issue closely. It was actually Preston McGrew that obtained the recall papers. Joe Bernier has been helping getting signatures, but is is the high school students that are spearheading the recall.
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integrityforPUSD wrote: I wonder why all of you seem to be just as interested in the lunch issue as Joe Bernier is. Apparently this is the only issue that keeps your fires burning as well. None of you have made a real attempt to address the other issues that have been brought up, or to really defend the behavoirs of the board members..
Because Joe has tried to turn and twist this to his advantage in a bid to recall Knecht for publicly humiliating his daughter.Last edited on Mon Jan 28th, 2008 12:19 am by rdg7359
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My, my, RUAajoke and dadof3 are in a cantankerous mood today. What's the matter kids, didn't get enough sleep?
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Adam Maras wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: deep thinking
Oh well; so much for that.
Just once, Dad, go ahead and say it:
YOU ARE SUCH AN IDIOT!!
You'll feel so much better
Oh let me try! Youareajoke.....YOU ARE SUCH AN IDIOT!!! Gosh, that did feel good! Thanks!
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integrityforPUSD wrote: I wonder why all of you seem to be just as interested in the lunch issue as Joe True, that is and was the catalyst for the recall.
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Adam Maras wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: deep thinking
Oh well; so much for that.
Just once, Dad, go ahead and say it:
YOU ARE SUCH AN IDIOT!!
You'll feel so much better
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| I wonder why all of you seem to be just as interested in the lunch issue as Joe Bernier is. Apparently this is the only issue that keeps your fires burning as well. None of you have made a real attempt to address the other issues that have been brought up, or to really defend the behavoirs of the board members..
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: To all of you who participated in the trashing of the Long Branch Forum this weekend:
Beware. Marshall Joe is expected to be back from his stint in prison and he's not going to be happy. Miss Kitty tried to hold the peace, but she was no match for the seasoned ruffians and just left and left it up to the young deputy. A few outsiders came by and took potshots at the troublemakers, but they were no real help. The young deputy put up a valiant fight, but he was outnumbered and outgunned.
Marshall Joe is going to come out shooting and his chambers will be loaded will be with cliches, trite sayings, and unsubstantiated declarations. It might be a good idea for all to get out of Dodge for a while because it's not going to be pretty at all.
The Marshall has a lot of reading to catch up on first.
Maybe, we can finally hear how Joe plans to improve the cafeteria conditions so all students, not just the ones able to leave campus, with daily signatures of course, can have a pleasurable lunchtime experience.
We have all heard him rant and rave, but I have never heard how he intends to improve these sad conditions, nor have I seen any suggestions from him on how to improve the cafeteria conditions.
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: To all of you who participated in the trashing of the Long Branch Forum this weekend:
Beware. Marshall Joe is expected to be back from his stint in prison and he's not going to be happy. Miss Kitty tried to hold the peace, but she was no match for the seasoned ruffians and just left and left it up to the young deputy. A few outsiders came by and took potshots at the troublemakers, but they were no real help. The young deputy put up a valiant fight, but he was outnumbered and outgunned.
Marshall Joe is going to come out shooting and his chambers will be loaded will be with trite sayings and unsubstantiated declarations. It might be a good idea for all to get out of Dodge for a while because it's not going to be pretty at all.
Nice story Youareajoke, you missed your calling. Perhaps you should start a blog and name it the continuing saga of youareajoke, aka areyoukiddingme.
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To all of you who participated in the trashing of the Long Branch Forum this weekend:
Beware. Marshall Joe is expected to be back from his stint in prison and he's not going to be happy. Miss Kitty tried to hold the peace, but she was no match for the seasoned ruffians and just left and left it up to the young deputy. A few outsiders came by and took potshots at the troublemakers, but they were no real help. The young deputy put up a valiant fight, but he was outnumbered and outgunned.
Marshall Joe is going to come out shooting and his chambers will be loaded with trite sayings and unsubstantiated declarations. It might be a good idea for all to get out of Dodge for a while because it's not going to be pretty at all.
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: deep thinking
Oh well; so much for that.
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integrityforPUSD wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Wait till Marshall Joe gets back from prison. He'll clean up this forum.
Youareajoke, I probably shouldn't admit this, but sometimes your comments do make me laugh.
As Dad would say, you are only encouraging this immature behavior. This is only a forum for exchange of ideas and deep thinking.
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rdg7359 wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Wait till Marshall Joe gets back from prison. He'll clean up this forum.
It is apparent that the small handfull of followers in Joe's crusade cannot answer the questions or think for themselves without approval of their fearless leader and the Fighter for Rights and Justice!
Or, could it be that unlike you and the others...we actually think for oursleves and have independent, differing thoughts and opinions?Last edited on Sun Jan 27th, 2008 02:35 pm by integrityforPUSD
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| Is this town big enough for two Sheriff Joe's?
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Wait till Marshall Joe gets back from prison. He'll clean up this forum.
It is apparent that the small handfull of followers in Joe's crusade cannot answer the questions or think for themselves without approval of their fearless leader and the Fighter for Rights and Justice!
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Wait till Marshall Joe gets back from prison. He'll clean up this forum.
Youareajoke, I probably shouldn't admit this, but sometimes your comments do make me laugh.
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| Wait till Marshall Joe gets back from prison. He'll clean up this forum.
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| Youareajoke, I don't need protection. I still say it isn't just about lunch. True, that is and was the catalyst for the recall. However, this all actually started with the passing of the budget with cuts being made in areas that the staff did not want the cuts or reductions. From that point on the newest board members ignored the majority of the staff, students and parents regarding many issues. Last edited on Sun Jan 27th, 2008 12:07 am by integrityforPUSD
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I don't know how seasoned you are, but you're the one that started the ridiculous statement,'It's not about lunch'. Dad was just trying to protect your backside and you left him out in the cold.
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| The sheriff's back in town
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Adam,
Youareajoke is not interested in a dialogue he is only interest...as he stated, is in having as many posts as Joe Bernier.
Gosh, I have been gone darn near all day and the conversation here is stagnant. Two men or possibly three men are picking on a less seasoned man, or soon to be man. How sad...apparently there are no interesting sports on TV today and the lawns are already mowed. (If there is a lawn.) Apparently these men are unable to hold a conversation with their children, wives or neighbors so they sit at their computers all day posting blogs in hope of connecting with someone.
I happen to think that it wasn't a bad idea to get a bid from other health insurers. However, I think it should be from several companies, and not a company that has ties to Diane Douglas and Rick Murphy.
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: FLIP-FLOP (verb)
The verb FLIP-FLOP has 1 sense:
1. reverse (a direction, attitude, or course of action)
I know what a flip-flop is. To what are you referring?
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FLIP-FLOP (verb)
The verb FLIP-FLOP has 1 sense:
1. reverse (a direction, attitude, or course of action)
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Dad
Flip-flop Flip-flop
Excuse me?
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Dad
Flip-flop Flip-flop
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Isn't each member's right as a voted official to project their ideas and wishes onto the operations of the district?
Yes, it certainly is their right. That being said, that doesn't give them a moral free pass to do whatever they wish with our school district.
AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Are you saying it is not their right to take a principled stand on an issue even it appears there is opposition to it?
If I expected people to always agree with the decisions of any board, I would be entirely insane. However, don't you think it's a reasonable thing to do to occasionally put your wishes aside and go with what the community wants? That's the whole idea behind transparency, which is something our board needs more of.
AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Or are you saying there should be a vote of the community for every issue that comes before the board?
I'm saying there should probably be a heck of a lot more votes, polls, and surveys than there are right now.
I'm a big believer in using objective data to make decisions. It's very hard to make a decision based on objective data when there is no objective data to use. I would love to see the district put more parent/student/staff/community polls on the portal, so that the board can see what the peoples' interests are. We have a couple of board members who always want "more information;" this would be a great way to get a ton of objective data.
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I noticed you did not answer these questions. Were they not valid questions to you?
Isn't it each member's right as a voted official to project their ideas and wishes onto the operations of the district? Are you saying it is not their right to take a principled stand on an issue even if it appears there is opposition to it? Or are you saying there should be a vote of the community for every issue that comes before the board?
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Adam Maras wrote: Yes, lunch is an issue. I'm going to say this once again:
It's not about lunch.
Dad
Are you doing this on purpose? You know how easily confused I get. After all, as you know, I AM AN IDIOT.
Perhaps I worded it poorly. How about, "It's not just about lunch."
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Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2008 09:15 pm |
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Adam Maras wrote: Yes, lunch is an issue. I'm going to say this once again:
It's not about lunch.
Dad
Are you doing this on purpose? You know how easily confused I get. After all, as you know, I AM AN IDIOT.
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Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2008 08:07 pm |
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rdg7359, what I'm trying to say is that everyone is starting to lose sight of the big picture, not just the people interested in closing the campuses. Yes, lunch is an issue. So is Old Main, so is EBT. They're all issues, and I believe they're all of equal importance. Why everyone is up in arms about lunch and not so much about the others, I'm not sure. If I had to venture a guess, it would be that it's the closest issue to the students right now. Perhaps it has something to do with Kathy Knecht's outburst toward Cheyenne Bernier. I'm not sure.
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Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2008 08:06 pm |
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Joewrites4rights wrote: dadof3, Uncle Fire....and everyone else that is mislead by the closers opinions and spin.
You have misunderstood the message that was being delivered by both the speeches to the board and email by one of my daughters. The email was valid, as it was pointing out that Columbine had just REOPENED their campuses....one of the reasons was that the closed campuses foster a negative atmosphere for a lot of students. It is logical....they can't take a true break if they are all crowded into a confined space. And YES...the relationship to closed campuses and campus violence are parallel. Bullying included.
NONE of us adults in the real world are ever subjected to such lunches....especially on a daily basis, unless we are imprisoned. What exactly is this preparing our students for? The only thing that resembles these lunches at school is lunches at prisons and jails. I know this for a fact, as I have visited these as well for my research. Fact....lunch lines at jails and prisons are shorter than the lines at our schools. Frankly...the food is way better at the prisons.
Back to the Columbine thing. Knecht is the ONLY person that made the accusation that students would be driven to violence because they wouldn't be able to leave campus for lunch. My daughters email only expressed her concern and fear of becoming a potential victim of such an event, "she doesn't want to be any part of it", or any other type of violent event on campus. FYI....we just had another example of campus violence here in the valley. Because of being daily trapped on campus...the girl in Gilbert recently...couldn't escape her bully....and no one did anything about it. The administration got involved in the end, only to suspend the victim for ten days. Sure they suspended the offender as well....but the victim? Parents are fools to think the administration is well equipped to manage a campus of confinement and despotic control. They have not been properly trained to do it. Not their job....nor should it be, they are better people than that. They didn't choose to become educators because they wanted to be prison guards.
My daughter never made a threat of carrying out any acts of violence. Please stop stating she did...Thank you....Joe Bernier
Adam,
More ramblings about lunch from your fearless leader
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Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2008 08:03 pm |
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Joewrites4rights wrote: rdg....please stop repeating the "go somewhere else if you don't like it"....we are not , nor should we even have to consider going to private schools. Private schools do not have to respect individual rights...public schools do. The closers NEVER considered going the private school route in the last couple years leading up to this. THEY had their way with last years policy....yet that wasn't good enough for them. Why?....because they couldn't control everybody, and they think THEIR way of life is the only way to live. I will ask again....why do they insist on controlling others? How does my daughters off campus lunchtime activities affect their kids on campus lunchtime experience? It DOESN'T.......
I don't want to control anybody....I'm not insisting that it be done my way (totally open, parents being 100% responsible for raising and controlling their own, and to stop bothering the schools with the chore of raising their kids)....I'm for everyone getting their way....like last years policy.....the closers get to use school resources to keep their students on the campus at lunch.....the openers get to manage their own students affairs off campus for lunch. A win win, you do your thing and I'll do mine. Why isn't that good enough for you, why is it that just because you can't comprehend my family life, you feel the need to disrespect it and control it?
The board was not elected to govern free time....and yes, lunch is the students free time.
And to the rest of you who think it's really no big deal.....then WHY do you insist the students should be confined to campus for lunch....I challenge you to back up your statements......if it's really no big deal, let the students spend lunch the way their parents want them to. If it's really no big deal....you will advocate for that. Joe Bernier
Adam,
I believe your leader is referring to lunch....
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Posted: Sat Jan 26th, 2008 08:00 pm |
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Adam Maras wrote: Both sides are trying to make it one. The individuals that want open campus argue that it's their right, and the individuals that want closed campus argue that it's the Board's decision and that it was the right choice. Neither side wants to take the time to put an alternative solution on the table-- yes, last year's policy was (in my opinion, and that of others) an acceptable solution; however, nobody has put any other serious ideas on the table. If people from either side of this issue put a fraction of the effort they're using to continue this argument toward coming up with a constructive solution, we would be infintely closer to an acceptable compromise.
Adam and Onefedupkiddie
What are you as a students doing to correct Joe's concern? About Lunch? Shouldn't these horrific conditions be addressed? What about the students, your friends, that are not able or old enough to leave campus? As crusaders for the rights of all what are you doing to remedy this situation?
Where else have you seen 25-30 minute daily lines for food. Let alone the same 2-5 choices of food? Where else have you seen or heard of forced restricted areas to eat lunch, with "guards" swirling around you? Where else have you heard of "don't cross the red line"? Where else have you heard "if you want the student (prisoner) released you must be "approved by the authorities of the state" (this policy says parents ONLY....not someone approved by the parent, i.e. grandparent or an older sibling) and that person, the one "approved by the authorities of the state" (not the person approved by the parent) MUST come in each and every single time in order for the student to be released for lunch. If they are not prisoners....why are they (and us as parents) being treated like this? What else is there to compare it to? I've searched many things and places.....but you must obviously know of something I missed....so lets hear it....I want to learn more. Joe Bernier
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