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Just to show you I have the ability to laugh at myself, I will tell an idiot joke:

Two idiots went into a movie theater to see a horse race film. The first idiot said to his companion, "I'll bet you $5 that No. 2 will win the race." The second idiot agreed to the bet, and the horse won. After the movie, the first idiot said, "I have a confession to make I saw the movie yesterday." The other idiot replied, "So did I, but I didn't think he would win twice in a row."

See, I'm not offended by that in the least...

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Just to show you I have the ability to laugh at myself, I will tell an idiot joke:

Two idiots went into a movie theater to see a horse race film. The first idiot said to his companion, "I'll bet you $5 that No. 2 will win the race." The second idiot agreed to the bet, and the horse won. After the movie, the first idiot said, "I have a confession to make I saw the movie yesterday." The other idiot replied, "So did I, but I didn't think he would win twice in a row."

See, I'm not offended by that in the least...

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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2008 06:05 am
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Kathy is small, but she obviously is fiery as evidenced by her performance in the Bernier affair. I think she could probably take Raeder in two of three falls.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2008 02:21 am
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Areyouajoke, do you think Kathy Knecht is doing a good job as a board member?

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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2008 02:13 am
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Me thinks Home, Dad,Joe, Kiddie-Kiddie,and many others take themselves and this silly little issue in PUSD a little too seriously...

I love people it when people refer to themselves in the third person....

And Home, I'm three-quarters idiot from my father's side, does anyone have some good idiot jokes out there?

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Your reply is pathetic.  That is not I said and you know it (well maybe you couldn't connect the dots).  My statement meant that the belief in rights between me and Joe is parallel, each with his own subject.  While he advocates the rights applicable to his area of interest, I hold parallel beliefs to the rights in my area of interest.  Just for the record, I am, and have so stated before in this forum, in agreement with Joe on the parental permission aspect of the closed campus controversy.  Are your last two responses the extent of your ability to participate in dialog relative to a multi dimensional discussion ?   Why don't you try coming in with some meaningful dialog instead of just attacking everyone else ?  Do you have a position one way or the other on the parental permission aspect of the closed campus controversy ?  What is it ?  Also, on the other subject, why don't you tell everyone what your age, ethnicity, background, and religion are, and we all can submit some "Jokes" about you and then we can yuck it up at your expense and you can see how it feels ?

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 Posted: Sat Jan 19th, 2008 08:34 pm
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Homer Landreth wrote:   Homer believes in rights just like Joe Bernier believes in rights, the difference being that Homer believes that everyone has the right to not be used as the butt of someone elses jokes. 
So you're saying Joe Bernier believes that everyone has the right to be used as the butt of someone else's jokes?

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Homer is not Grumpy, and will put his life up against yours any day, you will need two lifetimes to keep up with me.  Homer believes in rights just like Joe Bernier believes in rights, the difference being that Homer believes that everyone has the right to not be used as the butt of someone elses jokes.  The "Joke" you found so amusing was of poor taste and personified the definition of "no class". 

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Homer Landreth wrote: Oh, come on people.  Lighten up.  You've got to admit that the original post is amusing simply because of the absurdity of it. 

   Oh really?  What was amusing about a blatently age biased and sarcastic innenuendo about people who had absolutely no stake in this issue at all?  All of your piety, and Holyer than thou verbosity, and Constitutional blabbering made after the original posting was disguistingly self serving and hypocritical.  The fact that you all are amused by the original posting illustrates your shallowness, low values and your gutter level self gratification at the expense of others.  The referenced TV show that you think was so humorously used for your specific purpose is nothing but entertainment for stupid people by stupid people doing stupid things.  Maybe if you would upgrade your level of intellect and raise your level of gratification you might next time be more prepared to defend your desired outcome in a manner that will get the PUSD's attention.  Maybe more of you should have been reading your Civics books or Government books instead of watching WWF Smackdown.  Think about it ! 

 

See Dad and Kiddie

This is what you have to look forward to being unless you go out and have a little fun in your life - a grumpy old Homer making comments like this on NEWSZAP.....

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 Posted: Fri Jan 18th, 2008 08:29 pm
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Dad of 3....you still just don't get it....it's about so much more. But I'm OK with your misunderstanding....that's your right. Joe Bernier

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 Posted: Fri Jan 18th, 2008 08:12 pm
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Today, I come home from work early, get the mail and see a picture in the Peoria Times of all three (your 15 minutes is up) Bernier girls gathering recall signatures against Kathy Knecht. And the one who deservedly got rebuked for comparing Columbine to eating lunch on campus, who called her principal a bully in a public meeting as I recall, is wearing taco earrings and looks pretty ticked off. I can only imagine the pouting, foot-stomping and huffing that must go on around their dinner table at all the injustices plied upon them. Over and out, for the last time.

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Homer Landreth wrote: Oh, come on people.  Lighten up.  You've got to admit that the original post is amusing simply because of the absurdity of it. 

   Oh really?  What was amusing about a blatently age biased and sarcastic innenuendo about people who had absolutely no stake in this issue at all?  All of your piety, and Holyer than thou verbosity, and Constitutional blabbering made after the original posting was disguistingly self serving and hypocritical.  The fact that you all are amused by the original posting illustrates your shallowness, low values and your gutter level self gratification at the expense of others.  The referenced TV show that you think was so humorously used for your specific purpose is nothing but entertainment for stupid people by stupid people doing stupid things.  Maybe if you would upgrade your level of intellect and raise your level of gratification you might next time be more prepared to defend your desired outcome in a manner that will get the PUSD's attention.  Maybe more of you should have been reading your Civics books or Government books instead of watching WWF Smackdown.  Think about it ! 

 

Ever heard of a joke, or parody, or satire?  I don't watch WWF as it is garbage.  And I do plenty to read about civics. 

Pull the stick out of your rump alreadyl.  Sheesh.  It was a JOKE....

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onefedupkiddie wrote: It doesn't matter how "little" it is, suppression is suppression, and this is only suppression because of the endgame, not the actual policy. It'll only be a "war" if the opposing side keeps trying to make it one.


Ahh, funny how younuns can be so idealistic. 

Kiddie, wait until you get into the real world and have to work for a living.  If you think you're beeing suppressed now, wait until you have to face the world on your own.  You think you can come and go to work as you please?  How about paying your taxes (or not), or your bills.  How about when gas or utilities go up?  How about showing up to school-- are you suggesting that you should be able to come and go to class as yo please?

This issue has produced quite the gaggle of drama queens.

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Adam Maras wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME, why don't you take my advice and step back to look at the big picture? Step in the shoes of the people who want the campuses reopened.

What if the Board made a (edit: substantial) decision that did directly affect you in a negative way? I'm willing to bet you would be up in arms over it, just like the group that wants open lunch.


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The point is I can never imagine lunch to ever affect me or my kids any way at all. No matter what was decided about lunch would it be a "substantial" decision. Why is it my high schoolers don't see it as an issue in the least - they don't have to wait in long lines, there are always plenty of places to sit down, their friends think it is basically a nonissue, etc. etc.

I'll never forget when the high school principals all got up at one of the board meetings and basically said this lunch situation is not a problem and Rader essentially said 'are you sure because that's not really what I wanted to hear.'

You don't always get what you ask for in this life, kiddies - although it seems there are a lot of parents out there who want to try and give you everything and to not have to say no. Unfortunately for you all, you are going to find out the world works much differently away from Mommy and Daddy.

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Oh, come on people.  Lighten up.  You've got to admit that the original post is amusing simply because of the absurdity of it. 

   Oh really?  What was amusing about a blatently age biased and sarcastic innenuendo about people who had absolutely no stake in this issue at all?  All of your piety, and Holyer than thou verbosity, and Constitutional blabbering made after the original posting was disguistingly self serving and hypocritical.  The fact that you all are amused by the original posting illustrates your shallowness, low values and your gutter level self gratification at the expense of others.  The referenced TV show that you think was so humorously used for your specific purpose is nothing but entertainment for stupid people by stupid people doing stupid things.  Maybe if you would upgrade your level of intellect and raise your level of gratification you might next time be more prepared to defend your desired outcome in a manner that will get the PUSD's attention.  Maybe more of you should have been reading your Civics books or Government books instead of watching WWF Smackdown.  Think about it ! 

 

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Adam Maras wrote: Uncle Fire wrote: That said, there are other solutions to the problems AND those who want to reopen should stick to their guns.
Everybody needs to step back and look at both sides of the picture. We all know that there are two separate camps of people with two polar opinions and the attitudes to match it. What people (everybody) need to realize is that arguing the same points over and over and bashing Governing Board members, community members, and students and calling them names won't get anyone anywhere. We have a problem, we need a solution that's acceptable by the community, the parents, the students, the administrators, and the Governing Board. What we don't need is a war.

We had one Adam!
Knecht, Murphy and Douglas told the community in no uncertain terms, their opinions didn’t matter.  The work the committee did didn’t matter and they hung it around student safety.  They went as far to drag in a parent of a child who had died in a lunchtime accident.
We all want students to be safe but unless we shove all of you inside  plastic bubbles where we can control ever part of your environment, you and every other child now or in the future will be at risk. 

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The solution IS simple....allow everyone to live and do as they want. No one is hurting anyone else if our individual freedoms are respected and protected.

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with that. You parent your own....I'll parent mine!!

The schools only concern should be to "open the doors" of the classrooms and teach those who show up. The schools exist to provide the service of education....It has been proven that education in a positive and enjoyable ( to the closers these are four letter words) environment is far more effective and efficient than in a negative environment. The schools DO NOT exist to provide the service of domination and control. Especially AGAINST the parents and students will during free time.

I've had it with the closer's attitude's that the students should be grateful for merely being allowed to exist. Life, both in high school and afterwards, has much more to offer than mere existence. Who do they think they are to limit the experiences of anyone?  Joe Bernier  

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AREYOUKIDDING ME, why don't you take my advice and step back to look at the big picture? Step in the shoes of the people who want the campuses reopened.

What if the Board made a (edit: substantial) decision that did directly affect you in a negative way? I'm willing to bet you would be up in arms over it, just like the group that wants open lunch.

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Uncle Fire wrote:
 Sheesh.  As somebody else pointed out, this is trivial given all the curves life throws at us as we go through it.

I think this statement is the really sad part of this whole argument is that people will take this little trivial thing of eating lunch in a cafeteria and blow it up to gigantic proportions and actually justify it somehow with a lot of silly reasons it is such a hardship. We have two kids that get on this site and are talking about declaring war, how suppressed they are, etc. about lunch, about lunch because they might have to eat in a cafeteria....It is just so incredibly stupid and makes me wonder about the future of all of us. Hopefully, we will have enough people in this district to head off these blind sheep as they head toward the cliff...

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onefedupkiddie wrote: It doesn't matter how "little" it is, suppression is suppression, and this is only suppression because of the endgame, not the actual policy. It'll only be a "war" if the opposing side keeps trying to make it one.
Both sides are trying to make it one. The individuals that want open campus argue that it's their right, and the individuals that want closed campus argue that it's the Board's decision and that it was the right choice. Neither side wants to take the time to put an alternative solution on the table-- yes, last year's policy was (in my opinion, and that of others) an acceptable solution; however, nobody has put any other serious ideas on the table. If people from either side of this issue put a fraction of the effort they're using to continue this argument toward coming up with a constructive solution, we would be infintely closer to an acceptable compromise.

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It doesn't matter how "little" it is, suppression is suppression, and this is only suppression because of the endgame, not the actual policy. It'll only be a "war" if the opposing side keeps trying to make it one.

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Uncle Fire wrote: That said, there are other solutions to the problems AND those who want to reopen should stick to their guns.
Everybody needs to step back and look at both sides of the picture. We all know that there are two separate camps of people with two polar opinions and the attitudes to match it. What people (everybody) need to realize is that arguing the same points over and over and bashing Governing Board members, community members, and students and calling them names won't get anyone anywhere. We have a problem, we need a solution that's acceptable by the community, the parents, the students, the administrators, and the Governing Board. What we don't need is a war.

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Dad

Not sure of your latest post here. Perhaps you need to clarify there a bit...

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Uncle Fire wrote: Oh, come on people.  Lighten up.  You've got to admit that the original post is amusing simply because of the absurdity of it.  

While I'd like to see campus' open, I don't care all that much given I have no kids in HS anymore.  That said, there are other solutions to the problems AND those who want to reopen should stick to their guns.   But do so w/out freaking out or making silly references to Columbine or other equally inane, irrelevant things.

Lastly, for all those whining that it is such a hardship-- Suck it up and deal with it until things change.  Sheesh.  As somebody else pointed out, this is trivial given all the curves life throws at us as we go through it.

Thank you. This is one of the points I've been trying to get across for a while.

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Oh, come on people.  Lighten up.  You've got to admit that the original post is amusing simply because of the absurdity of it.  

While I'd like to see campuses open, I don't care all that much given I have no kids in HS anymore.  That said, there are other solutions to the problems AND those who want to reopen should stick to their guns.   But they need to do so w/out freaking out or making silly references to Columbine or other equally inane, irrelevant things.

Lastly, for all those whining that it is such a hardship-- Suck it up and deal with it until things change.  Sheesh.  As somebody else pointed out, this is trivial given all the curves life throws at us as we go through it.

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At least you are consistently incoherent, I will give you that, Kiddie-Kiddie

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Oakwood moms live in a separate la la world, or as I would say, haven't "taken the red pill". I've experienced it first hand.

 

Of course, Kiddie, you haven't had a bounty of coherent responses in your young life if above is an example of anything....


I didn't really feel the need to go into detail, and I still don't. But let's put this into perspective, the only people who have written countless amounts of pro-Knecht con-Bernier letters for the last umpteenth months have all came from the exact same neck of the woods.

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Oakwood moms live in a separate la la world, or as I would say, haven't "taken the red pill". I've experienced it first hand.

 

Of course, Kiddie, you haven't had a bounty of coherent responses in your young life if above is an example of anything....

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: dadof3 wrote: FedUp, How I wish I was a teenager again. To think that a policy requiring kids to eat on campus is "sick" and the worst thing in your life. Enjoy this "horrible situation" while it lasts kid, things will only get better. Soon you will have to choose a college major, pay for it, get a job, hopefully find a lifelong spouse or partner, deal with marriage, maybe get divorced, maybe deal with child support if you are lucky enough to have children because some people have to go through years of fertility treatments to even be able to have a child, get a mortgage, get laid off from job, figure out how to pay for family's health insurance and said mortgage, maybe lose your house and your health, and then figure out how to send your own kids to college and maybe actually be able to retire. And as all that is happening, I hope you remember the time in your life when the "sick, tyrannical, despots" made you eat lunch on campus and how that was the worst thing that ever happened to you. Oh the inhumanity of it all.

Right on the button!!!!! 

 
Not really, it hardly even qualifies as a coherent response.

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dadof3 wrote: FedUp, How I wish I was a teenager again. To think that a policy requiring kids to eat on campus is "sick" and the worst thing in your life. Enjoy this "horrible situation" while it lasts kid, things will only get better. Soon you will have to choose a college major, pay for it, get a job, hopefully find a lifelong spouse or partner, deal with marriage, maybe get divorced, maybe deal with child support if you are lucky enough to have children because some people have to go through years of fertility treatments to even be able to have a child, get a mortgage, get laid off from job, figure out how to pay for family's health insurance and said mortgage, maybe lose your house and your health, and then figure out how to send your own kids to college and maybe actually be able to retire. And as all that is happening, I hope you remember the time in your life when the "sick, tyrannical, despots" made you eat lunch on campus and how that was the worst thing that ever happened to you. Oh the inhumanity of it all.
*sigh* Talk about a misinterpretation. It's not eating on campus that is sick, even though since my class pre-lunch is on the other side of campus and all the lines get too long before I can even show up, waiting 90 minutes to go home and eat isn't exactly bad for me. It's the matter in which they put this policy into place which is sick. It's dirty politics, which doesn't matter what the issue is, it's still dirty politics. It's not "the worst thing in my life", I would have to be doing pretty damn well right now for this to be "the worst thing". Every assumption you made in this gem of a post is one big game of grasping for straws, and has nothing to do with the post that preceeded it. So really, don't try to make all of us seem like we think that lunch is the end of the world, it's not, but playing political games and showing so much contempt to the students and parents who care about the policy just enough to call out how inept it is, is definitely something important. If a school board implements a bad policy, if the higher government implements a bad policy, no matter how insignificant it is, someone better say something about it.

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Fed up is right, the analogy was a bad one from the start, and KIDDING is only making it worse.  Get a grip.  And by the way, Apache Mom got her information from the district.  Are you saying they're telling us a lie?  Do you have any evidence?

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dadof3 wrote: FedUp, How I wish I was a teenager again. To think that a policy requiring kids to eat on campus is "sick" and the worst thing in your life. Enjoy this "horrible situation" while it lasts kid, things will only get better. Soon you will have to choose a college major, pay for it, get a job, hopefully find a lifelong spouse or partner, deal with marriage, maybe get divorced, maybe deal with child support if you are lucky enough to have children because some people have to go through years of fertility treatments to even be able to have a child, get a mortgage, get laid off from job, figure out how to pay for family's health insurance and said mortgage, maybe lose your house and your health, and then figure out how to send your own kids to college and maybe actually be able to retire. And as all that is happening, I hope you remember the time in your life when the "sick, tyrannical, despots" made you eat lunch on campus and how that was the worst thing that ever happened to you. Oh the inhumanity of it all.

Right on the button!!!!! 

 

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 Posted: Mon Jan 14th, 2008 12:27 am
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I am sure the other side have very different statistics they could quote. How about we wait for the vote in November.

By the way, I've heard the argument that because the there are so many more speakers at the board meetings that speak for the open campuses at the call to the public, this is an indication of the support for this issue. I think I heard Preston give this little statistic....

You can make statistics lie anyway you want them to...

 

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RUKiddingme and dadof3.....You both now state being confined to the campuses is no big deal....that we should be worried about more serious things and give up all our inimportant freedoms....then WHY do you insist locking everyone up at lunch be done? Why can't you respect that it does NOT work for EVERYBODY.....if it's really no big deal....then why must it be forced upon the students and parents? Joe Bernier

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Lets see:
  • The majority of the closed campus committee voted to either leave the campuses open to juniors or seniors, or require parental permission for this (I was on the committee, and I know this for a fact).
  • Over 50 percent of parents who could allowed their children to leave campus last year (announced at a governing board meeting).
  • In a random sample survey, 72 percent of parents said that they liked the policy that required their permission (announced at a governing board meeting).
  • And, in less than two weeks over 2600 signed a petition in support of opening the campuses (more than twice the number of signitures collected by the closers, who took over a year to gather theirs, and also announced at a governing board meeting).
How's that for evidence?

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How do you know the community is overwhelming in favor of the open campuses? Don't throw out comments unless you have data to back it up....

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 Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2008 10:00 pm
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FedUp, How I wish I was a teenager again. To think that a policy requiring kids to eat on campus is "sick" and the worst thing in your life. Enjoy this "horrible situation" while it lasts kid, things will only get better. Soon you will have to choose a college major, pay for it, get a job, hopefully find a lifelong spouse or partner, deal with marriage, maybe get divorced, maybe deal with child support if you are lucky enough to have children because some people have to go through years of fertility treatments to even be able to have a child, get a mortgage, get laid off from job, figure out how to pay for family's health insurance and said mortgage, maybe lose your house and your health, and then figure out how to send your own kids to college and maybe actually be able to retire. And as all that is happening, I hope you remember the time in your life when the "sick, tyrannical, despots" made you eat lunch on campus and how that was the worst thing that ever happened to you. Oh the inhumanity of it all.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2008 09:44 pm
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: onefedupkiddie wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Adam Maras wrote: I think you're trying to make light of a very serious situation in a way that isn't very humorous.



Dad

Where do you think this ranks with very serious situations people should be concerned about like world hunger, AIDS epidemic in Africa, global warming, etc.

Would do you say the kiddies having their tacos at lunch is second or third?????


Me thinks Dad and others take themselves and this silly little issue in PUSD a little too seriously...

Ted
When the Peoria Unified School District schoolboard has the power to make global strides with the AIDS epidemic, global warming, world hunger, etc., then get back to me.

Basically, your analogy sucks.


Hey 18 year old Grandpa

My point was AIDS epidemic, global warming, world hunger, etc are very serious situations. What I was trying to pointing out to Dad whether the kiddies get their taco at lunch is not a "very serious situation". It is comical in that people like you feel it is such a life and death situation. Are you a senior?? If this is such a serious situation are you going to put your life on hold so you can make sure that Knecht is voted out of office in November?

You've managed to make your analogy even more inane. It's not a life or death situation (glad someone admitted it, considering how that's been closers primary support in all of this). But considering how this new policy is so lazy and just plain odd, both in execution and writing, it needs to be contested. All the while, those who put it into practice refuse to cooperate with the community who overwhelmingly says that this policy is just that, and that the previous policy was fine. After months of giving them more and more reasons as to why the policy is completely corrupt, once it was clear, they decided to go on the offensive and make us look like the enemy. The community and the closed campus committee did the research and found the other alternative the right one. The board who did no research and refuse to look into the matter deeper, chose the current alternative. This isn't a coincidence, and goes hand and hand.

The policy they concocted is sick, and the way they treated the community after the fact is even sicker. That cannot be tolerated, no matter how "little" the issue is to you. That's no excuse for letting all this ignorance slide.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2008 07:39 pm
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Dad Quit trying to be everyone's father.

It's starting to annoy me

Last edited on Sun Jan 13th, 2008 07:57 pm by AREYOUKIDDING ME

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 Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2008 04:10 pm
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All of you, please stop. There's no reason to continue this line of discussion, since it's degraded into the usual series of arguments.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2008 03:36 pm
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onefedupkiddie wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Adam Maras wrote: I think you're trying to make light of a very serious situation in a way that isn't very humorous.



Dad

Where do you think this ranks with very serious situations people should be concerned about like world hunger, AIDS epidemic in Africa, global warming, etc.

Would do you say the kiddies having their tacos at lunch is second or third?????


Me thinks Dad and others take themselves and this silly little issue in PUSD a little too seriously...

Ted
When the Peoria Unified School District schoolboard has the power to make global strides with the AIDS epidemic, global warming, world hunger, etc., then get back to me.

Basically, your analogy sucks.


Hey 18 year old Grandpa

My point was AIDS epidemic, global warming, world hunger, etc are very serious situations. What I was trying to pointing out to Dad whether the kiddies get their taco at lunch is not a "very serious situation". It is comical in that people like you feel it is such a life and death situation. Are you a senior?? If this is such a serious situation are you going to put your life on hold so you can make sure that Knecht is voted out of office in November?

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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 07:46 pm
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AREYOUKIDDINGME,  a typical answer from one who has no sense of humor or perspective.  The joke was stupid, and only an idiot would find it funny. And, as onefedupkiddie has already pointed out, you analogy was equally as dumb, maybe even more so.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 06:10 pm
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Adam Maras wrote: I think you're trying to make light of a very serious situation in a way that isn't very humorous.



Dad

Where do you think this ranks with very serious situations people should be concerned about like world hunger, AIDS epidemic in Africa, global warming, etc.

Would do you say the kiddies having their tacos at lunch is second or third?????


Me thinks Dad and others take themselves and this silly little issue in PUSD a little too seriously...

Ted
When the Peoria Unified School District schoolboard has the power to make global strides with the AIDS epidemic, global warming, world hunger, etc., then get back to me.

Basically, your analogy sucks.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 02:46 am
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Adam Maras wrote: I think you're trying to make light of a very serious situation in a way that isn't very humorous.



Dad

Where do you think this ranks with very serious situations people should be concerned about like world hunger, AIDS epidemic in Africa, global warming, etc.

Would do you say the kiddies having their tacos at lunch is second or third?????


Me thinks Dad and others take themselves and this silly little issue in PUSD a little too seriously...

Ted

Last edited on Sat Jan 12th, 2008 01:57 pm by AREYOUKIDDING ME

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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 02:27 am
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High five, OPIE

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 Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2008 11:57 pm
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This is brutally unfunny, especially because the setup for a joke like this is basically written on the wall.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2008 09:40 pm
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Of course you do, as any idiot would.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2008 02:42 pm
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Opie

I love it!!!!

 

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 Posted: Fri Jan 11th, 2008 12:36 pm
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I think you're trying to make light of a very serious situation in a way that isn't very humorous.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 10th, 2008 06:57 pm
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I have been troubled by the recent turmoil in our town caused by the disagreement over whether campuses should be closed for lunch or not. While considering how this could be resolved, I came up with an idea that I believe would work.  If schools were to sponsor daily Peoria WWF Smackdowns featuring residents of Ventana Lakes and Westbrook Village during lunch, I expect our children would be less motivated to go off campus during lunch and would instead stay to watch the tournaments. To generate the revenue needed to get the stage,costumes, etc. we could ask BenGay and Efferdent to sponsor the series.
What do you think?

Last edited on Thu Jan 10th, 2008 06:59 pm by opie1970


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