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Are you really a teacher? What are your students doing while you're doing this? Let me try again:

I'm really trying to understand this and you're not answering my question. What did she do that would make me want to yank your certificate? Are you telling me that no teacher ever loses his or her temper with a student and every time this happens the teacher should be fired? Did she call her a brat or something worse? Was it the fact that she was somewhat emotional at a school board meeting? Does this person get a free pass because she is a freshman in high school and everybody thought how wonderful it was that that these kids would get up and talk at board meetings? Doesn't she give up her immunity when she comes to board meetings and starts playing grownup games like she did?

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PUSD TEACHER---- I think you have lost sight of reality.   Cheyenne Bernier was out of line to make the comments she made at the board meeting, as well as the comments made about her principal being a "bully."   If you are a PUSD high school teacher, you know, without a doubt, that students have been suspended for far less infractions, and it does beg the question:   why is Cheyenne the hero in this scenario, and why wasn't she suspended for making these comments?   I attended the board meeting, and I was absolutely shocked that Cheyenne had the audacity to say what she did, and I applaud Mrs. Knecht for taking control of the situation.  Cheyenne was out of line.   She is a 14-year old who was disrespectful, at best, at that particular meeting, and extremely disrespectful to her principal.   As pointed out in a previous post, Cheyenne, as a FRESHMAN, was in no way affected by the closed campus policy.    And, as also pointed out in a previous post, does anyone wonder where Joe and his daughters are hiding at this particular point in time?   For some reason, this is no longer an issue for them.   I suggest we put it to rest, too.   

 

     

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"… she degrades herself by calling me a douche bag …”

I never called you any such thing. Are you so desperate to make a point that you now have to resort to lies? On the other hand, I did call you and Dadof3 cowards, but only because it’s true.

Now stop being so spineless and answer my questions: Why was it OK for those who advocated for the closed campuses to use dead teenagers as an example, but not Ms. Bernier? Are kids killed in accidents better than those innocently gunned down while eating lunch on campus?

Here’s another one: Don’t you think we should hold our elected officials to a higher standard of conduct than that of a 14-year-old?

And, please, in the future, speak in complete sentences, not mumbo jumbo like this: “Doesn't she give up her immunity when comes to board meetings and starts playing grownup games like she did?”

And Dadof3, turn me in. I’m still at school, and clearly I have committed a heinous crime.

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Oh my, I see you've posted the photo of your dream date again. What a sad, sad life you must live.

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PUSD - I know you're getting ready to transmit, but before you do, there's this really wonderful invention called spellcheck. It will tell if you use words like signiture or grammer that aren't in the dictionary.

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and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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PUSD Teacher wrote: Adam, you guys in the IT department better get ready to track me down for Dadof3.  It's going to be tough.  I'm not using a district server.
Don't say "you guys," as I'm not interning with IMT anymore. I assume you're using an over-the-air internet connection?

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Teacher, you are giving the many hard-working, professional PUSD teachers a very bad name by getting so venemous on company time and then daring the IT department to track you down. YOu are talking about how you could be fired for talking to a student like Mrs. Knecht, how about being fired for blogging on company time and then daring the IT department to figure it out.

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Oh, Shepherd Michael, will you come up with some cute little acronym for friends of Kathy Knecht?

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PUSD Teacher wrote: Adam, you guys in the IT department better get ready to track me down for Dadof3.  It's going to be tough.  I'm not using a district server.

One more thing, Dadof3:  you didn't bother to answer my questlons. Like AYKM and all the other FOKKers, you're just another know-nothing coward.

Wow, I am more than disappointed in PUSDTeacher. She came into this whole affair acting as if she was above this silly blogging thing with her pretentious essay and she degrades herself by calling me a douche bag and Dadof3 a coward and a FoKKER (whatever that is, is that something the shepherd thought of?)

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I'm really trying to understand this and you're not answering my question. What did she do that would make me want to yank your certificate? Are you telling me that no teacher ever loses his or her temper with a student and every time this happens the teacher should be fired? Did she call her a brat or something worse? Was it the fact that she was somewhat emotional at a school board meeting? Does this person get a free pass because she is a freshman in high school and everybody thought how wonderful it was that that these kids would get up and talk at board meetings? Doesn't she give up her immunity when comes to board meetings and starts playing grownup games like she did? Do you think a teacher should be held to a higher standard when she writes? Do you think it reflects badly upon teachers when their essays are full of spelling errors and grammar mistakes? Do you think I as a parent should be concerned about that teacher when she sends notes home with my children that are full of spelling errors and grammar mistakes?

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Adam, you guys in the IT department better get ready to track me down for Dadof3.  It's going to be tough.  I'm not using a district server.

One more thing, Dadof3:  you didn't bother to answer my questlons. Like AYKM and all the other FOKKers, you're just another know-nothing coward.

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I would consider it if you are doing it on the taxpayer's dime.

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Actually, you missed the witty play on words there...
Oh, please.   And you say I'm the one full of B.S.

I'll answer your question with another one: What would you do if I addressed your kid in the same manner?  If you say you're OK with it, no one will believe you.  You wouldn't be, and for good reason.  In fact, you would be the first in line screaming for my teaching certificate.

Ms. Bernier did nothing wrong.  Anyone who has read her email, or saw her speak to the governing board knows that she used Columbine as an example, not a threat.  She was very calm and respectful in addressing the school board.  The same cannot be said of Ms. Knecht.  No matter how much you, Dadof3 and all the other FOKKers try to spin it otherwise, we all know this to be true.

By the way, why was it OK for those who advocated for the closed campuses to use dead teenagers as an example, but not Ms. Bernier?  Are kids killed in accidents better than those innocently gunned down while on campus?

Dadof3, thanks for showing us how small and insignificant your thinking is.  Are you going to tattle on me for using my personal computer?

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Maybe that I'm giving her spelling lessons that will help her function as a teacher?

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Maybe it's just me, but how can you interpret writing on this blog as being business related while you're supposed to be teaching?

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dadof3 wrote: Is PUSD Teacher logging on from school? Is that allowed?
It depends on one's interpretation of the first line of the employee Acceptable Use Policy:

Use the electronic information system for educational purposes or district business purposes only.

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Is PUSD Teacher logging on from school? Is that allowed?

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Actually, you missed the witty play on words there PUSDTeacher about the spelling impaired. I'm glad you caught it, though. Now if we can just work on grammar and signature with you...

Can you get more specific what exactly she said or did that would been grounds for your dismissal had you done it? Did she call Ms. Bernier a name, did she berate her in any way, what exactly was done that your supervisor would have called you on the carpet?. She was very emotional, yes, and she had every right to be. Usually, you have to have more than that to fire anyone ......

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: That's ciento cuarenta y nueve for our Spanish speakers and  one hundred fourty-nine for our spelling impaired public.
Actually, it's forty-nine. Before throwing stones at others, you might want to make sure you don't live in a glass house.

As for your other question, ethically and morally, students should never be addressed the way Kathy Knecht addressed Ms. Bernier.  Contempt like that demonstrated by Ms. Knecht only breeds contempt. The fact that you don't think I would be fired for doing the same thing simply demonstrates how out of touch you really are.

And, for the record, Ann R. is right.

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and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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Miss Goosey -

I really do appreciate your sentiments and I really wish I could meet you sometime. I'm sure you are a lovely woman. However, I have my hands full with updating and things and it just is not in the cards. Besides, i've met a lovely gal, Dolly, that I've spoken about  on this forum and I think it may be love for me, Miss Lucygoosey. You take care of yourself, there are a lot of other fish for you in the big pond of life.

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I AM SORRY, BUT I THINK I HAVE FALLEN HOPELESSLY IN LOVE WITH YOU. WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THIS UPDATE IS JUST AMAZING, YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A HUMANITARIAN AND A TRUE GENTLEMAN AND I REALLY WANT TO MEET YOU SOMETIME. DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE?

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and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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Only 144 more hoursThat's ciento cuarenta y cuatro for our Spanish speakers and  one hundred fourty-four for our spelling impaired public.
and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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Only 149 more hoursThat's ciento cuarenta y nueve for our Spanish speakers and  one hundred fourty-nine for our spelling impaired public.
and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Well, Rumpus, here you go. As I told the night owls, I am in this till the end. If I have to stay up for 154 hours straight, that's just what I'll have to do. Thanks for the kind words and I'll be talking to you soon I'm sure.Only 154 more hours




and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

Looks like the late night hours and the early morning hours brings out the rump end of people.  Congratulations, you have hit rock bottom! 

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Well, Rumpus, here you go. As I told the night owls, I am in this till the end. If I have to stay up for 154 hours straight, that's just what I'll have to do. Thanks for the kind words and I'll be talking to you soon I'm sure.Only 154 more hours




and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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RUK

I just want to tell you what a great service you are providing as we go to the end here. You are a fine American! I saw where you were updaing for the night owls, but I was wondering if you could do the same for the early risers like myself. I get up early and it just starts my day off right if i am updated for the countdown...

Thanks I really appreciate it....

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I have some requests from the night owls if I could update at night and you know what I said?  I said I would stay up 24/7 until this is done if it makes my public happy. So, here you go night owls, ENJOY, and get home before that YELLOW BALL comes up...Only 159 more hours




and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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Anybody else - what was so inappropriate? Maybe my teacher friend could grace us with her presence again.

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Are you there? You're not writing a thesis - what exactly did she do or say that was so inappropriate?

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I'm not sure why you keep coming back here, but since you asked I will tell you. What exactly did she do or say that was inappropriate? Let's start with that....

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What makes you think PUSD Teacher wouldn't be fired over something like that? That sort of behavior is inappropriate enough in front of adults, let alone high school freshmen. Regardless of what Cheyenne's letter said or didn't say (and for the record, I believe that her letter was not inappropriate) Mrs. Knecht's reaction was entirely uncalled for.

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PUSD Teacher wrote:
Why I signed the recall petition is another matter.  First, I signed it after watching Mrs. Knecht lose her wits when questioned by a 14-year-old girl who neither threatened her, nor implied a threat.  In doing so she showed her complete contempt not just for students, but for all of us who might disagree with her (and for the record, I support closed campuses).  By the way, if I had that kind of outburst as a teacher, I would have been fired.


Bulls*** in red

Complete bulls*** in blue

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Only 165 more hours




and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

I am sure that Tenretni can chime the Cuckoo for you!

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and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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Integrity--- I must be too stupid because I truly do not understand one thing you have just recently posted.   Time for me to crawl back under my rock and hibernate for a while.   I'll check back in when you have something worthwhile to say.

   You, Integrity, are way too much for me to deal with right now. If you want to take that as a compliment, then so be it.   I truly don't care.    In fact, why don't you give it a rest, too?   Go find Joe and strategize for a while, okay?

 

 

 

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dadof3 wrote: Integrity, no, I labeled them brats because of their very bratty public behavior, nothing to do with my kids. Nice try at twisting that around. I feel like whats her name in the Exorcist.
I did what you did Dadof3, I made an assumption about your children without even know them or being around them.  You have done the same thing, you are making an assumption without being around or getting to know Cheyenne.

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tenretni wrote: Integrity.... you do not need to make excuses for Joe.   He and his daughter(s) started this battle.   The fact that they have now chosen to flee rather than fight is their choicel.   My take on this is that they (finally) realized that it's not all that bad to stay on campus during lunch (tacos or no tacos).

   Let's face it--- in the grand scheme of things, this is not worth fighting about (joe's lack of interest in this debate speaks for itself).   As for Mrs. Knecht's reaction to an overly emotional teenager who was having a temper tantrum -- more power to her (Mrs. Knecht) for saying enough is enough.    Someone needs to be the parent.   I'm sorry (for Mrs. Knecht's sake) that Cheyenne's parents couldn't remind her that as a freshman, she had no right to pitch a fit in the first place about closed campuses.   Time to put this issue to rest and let Mrs. Knecht do the job she was elected (by a majority, I may add) to do.   

And - Integrity -- if you're that unhappy with the status quo on the PUSD governing board, you should know that there are three seats up for the election in November.   Rather than spend your time on these blogs, I would suggest that you hit the campaign trail.    YOu seem to have all the answers.   Good luck.

 

 


I am not, nor would I make excuses for Joe...you guys keep calling him out as if this is some bar room brawl.  And you make assumptions that just because he isn't answering he has given up.  There is a saying about people that make assumptions and all of you fit the description given.

 

By the way, no one gave you the 'right,' to say whether or not Cheyenne had a right to speak up or not.   I will say it again, it is backward or retarded thinking for anyone that believes that children should be seen but not heard.

Maybe I will run for Governing Board, or maybe not.  In fact any number of people that are posting to this blog could decide to run for Governing Board. 

And what do you call your postings?  You apparently don't believe you have any of the answers?  I do hope however, you don't waste your time trying to run for Governing Board.

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Integrity, no, I labeled them brats because of their very bratty public behavior, nothing to do with my kids. Nice try at twisting that around. I feel like whats her name in the Exorcist.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 01:13 am
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dadof3 wrote: I see, too clever for us golden oldies. So you are definitely running? Aren't you going off to college?
I never planned on "going off" anywhere college-wise, there's perfectly good colleges around here :) And to answer your question, yes, I'm definitely running.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 01:11 am
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dadof3 wrote: You're right, none of us know if she called him a bully to his face, but I seem to remember that was part of her comments at the board meeting, somethine like 'my principal bullied me' or 'I felt bullied by my principal'. Mrs. Knecht lost her emotions, I agree, she agrees. When I re-read all that old info, she said her sister lives in Littleton, Colorado, home of Columbine High School, so that issue was particularly upsetting to her and close to home I guess is one way to put it. She got emotional. The teenager was a brat. Even the bus driver in Gilbert or Higley or wherever it was didn't get fired for getting in a fight with another bratty kid on a school bus. (and I also agree that she should not have been fired there, I suppose you think she should have been? Do you think that girl was also just standing up for her rights, like you say Joe's daughter was?). Let's move on.

RUK, what's the countdown by hour? do you know?

 

Hmmm......I suppose that because your children are brats that you assume everyone elses children are brats.  How sad that you would label other children according to the actions and behavior's of your own children.

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 Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 01:11 am
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I see, too clever for us golden oldies. So you are definitely running? Aren't you going off to college?

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 Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 01:08 am
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I cleverly inserted the links into my sentence ;)

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 Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 01:08 am
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