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 Posted: Thu Apr 3rd, 2008 01:05 am
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tenretni wrote: And - Integrity -- if you're that unhappy with the status quo on the PUSD governing board, you should know that there are three seats up for the election in November.   Rather than spend your time on these blogs, I would suggest that you hit the campaign trail.    YOu seem to have all the answers.   Good luck.
This raises the question of who plans to run for the Governing Board in the upcoming election. Right now I'm only aware of two people who intend to be on the ballot come November.

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Integrity.... you do not need to make excuses for Joe.   He and his daughter(s) started this battle.   The fact that they have now chosen to flee rather than fight is their choicel.   My take on this is that they (finally) realized that it's not all that bad to stay on campus during lunch (tacos or no tacos).

   Let's face it--- in the grand scheme of things, this is not worth fighting about (joe's lack of interest in this debate speaks for itself).   As for Mrs. Knecht's reaction to an overly emotional teenager who was having a temper tantrum -- more power to her (Mrs. Knecht) for saying enough is enough.    Someone needs to be the parent.   I'm sorry (for Mrs. Knecht's sake) that Cheyenne's parents couldn't remind her that as a freshman, she had no right to pitch a fit in the first place about closed campuses.   Time to put this issue to rest and let Mrs. Knecht do the job she was elected (by a majority, I may add) to do.   

And - Integrity -- if you're that unhappy with the status quo on the PUSD governing board, you should know that there are three seats up for the election in November.   Rather than spend your time on these blogs, I would suggest that you hit the campaign trail.    YOu seem to have all the answers.   Good luck.

 

 

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Dadof3 - it's interesting you asked how many hours are left. I've had numerous (at least fifty) requests to keep it updated more often and to break it down by hours so we can have a more accurate count of the time left before the big day. I give my public what they ask and I am so happy to do it!!!Only 168 more hours




and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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You're right, none of us know if she called him a bully to his face, but I seem to remember that was part of her comments at the board meeting, somethine like 'my principal bullied me' or 'I felt bullied by my principal'. Mrs. Knecht lost her emotions, I agree, she agrees. When I re-read all that old info, she said her sister lives in Littleton, Colorado, home of Columbine High School, so that issue was particularly upsetting to her and close to home I guess is one way to put it. She got emotional. The teenager was a brat. Even the bus driver in Gilbert or Higley or wherever it was didn't get fired for getting in a fight with another bratty kid on a school bus. (and I also agree that she should not have been fired there, I suppose you think she should have been? Do you think that girl was also just standing up for her rights, like you say Joe's daughter was?). Let's move on.

RUK, what's the countdown by hour? do you know?

 

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: integrityforPUSD wrote:
I am sure Joe Bernier has better things to do than argue with people
 

Excuse me, did you  type this under the influence of drugs or alcohol??? I really think that statement belongs in the Joe Bernier Hall of Fame along with his Constitution, false imprisonment, etc. statements. This statement may be the best of all ......

Please do not quote me out of context....  Joe Bernier had already mentioned that he is busy with little league...  And, I am the one that said he probably has better things to do than to argue with people that do not have power to change anything not Joe Bernier.

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tenretni wrote: If Joe has "better things to do" than "argue with people" it simply begs the question:  WHY  did he (and his daughters) start this "argument" in the first place?   I'm curious as to WHY no one else out there is asking WHY Joe and his daughters have disappeared?   From what I've garnered throughtout this ordeal, there are MANY students who have been suspended for a various of infractions, yet -- for some reason -- Cheyenne's comments (made to the principal at Sunrise) were OK??   The fact that she WAS NOT SUSPENDED (for those comments about Columbine)  begs the question--- IS JOE [and his daughter(s)] in the PUSD back pocket and special privileges extended?   Cheyenne's commenets would NOT have been tolerated under any other circumstance and (believe it or not) I have proof to substantiate this comment.   I know, for a fact, that several students in PUSD who have made comments (much less "threatening" than Cheyenne's) actually rec'd a FOUR DAY SUSPENSION from school; yet, for some reason -- Cheyenne's comments were tolerated????

Call it as it is.... but in my mind--- this is discrimination at its best.   Joe has an "in" with the powers that be in the PUSD and his daughter(s) can say whatever she (they) want, to whomever she (they) want, and all is fine.   Any other student, saying the same thing, would be suspended.    It is what it is.   And --- with that -- all is said.  

 

 


I believe his argument is with the Governing Board, not on blogs or posts.  What he writes or whether he writes in blogs and/or posts is his option.

 

If he has an "in," as you so humorously have written, why hasn't the lunch issue been re-opened and parental permission restored?   

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dadof3 wrote: Integrity, Not 'everyone' was nodding in agreement with what you are saying, that is your opinion. I watched it on tv and while Mrs. Knecht herself has said she regrets getting emotional, what she said was appropriate and what Joe's daughter did and said was so out of line, I'm still surprised she wasn't suspended for talking about her principal like that at the meeting, didn't she call her principal a bully or something, just for talking to her about her email about Columbine? This has been debated to death, I'm not going to do that. But your comments about 'everyone agreeing' are just as much your 'opinion' as the other comments.

Watching on TV hardly made it possible for you to get a feel for what the audience was doing or feeling.  What Kathy Knecht said was not only not inappropriate it was way out of line for an adult to lose control of their temper and talk that way to any child or an adult for that matter.

I wasn't in the room with Cheyenne when the principal was talking to her, and neither were you.  I don't believe however that she called him a bully to his face.  And this principal is known for his bullying tactic's with adults as well as students.  That kind of behavior is never appropriate either!

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If Joe has "better things to do" than "argue with people" it simply begs the question:  WHY  did he (and his daughters) start this "argument" in the first place?   I'm curious as to WHY no one else out there is asking WHY Joe and his daughters have disappeared?   From what I've garnered throughtout this ordeal, there are MANY students who have been suspended for a various of infractions, yet -- for some reason -- Cheyenne's comments (made to the principal at Sunrise) were OK??   The fact that she WAS NOT SUSPENDED (for those comments about Columbine)  begs the question--- IS JOE [and his daughter(s)] in the PUSD back pocket and special privileges extended?   Cheyenne's commenets would NOT have been tolerated under any other circumstance and (believe it or not) I have proof to substantiate this comment.   I know, for a fact, that several students in PUSD who have made comments (much less "threatening" than Cheyenne's) actually rec'd a FOUR DAY SUSPENSION from school; yet, for some reason -- Cheyenne's comments were tolerated????

Call it as it is.... but in my mind--- this is discrimination at its best.   Joe has an "in" with the powers that be in the PUSD and his daughter(s) can say whatever she (they) want, to whomever she (they) want, and all is fine.   Any other student, saying the same thing, would be suspended.    It is what it is.   And --- with that -- all is said.  

 

 

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Only 7 more days




and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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integrityforPUSD wrote:
I am sure Joe Bernier has better things to do than argue with people
 

Excuse me, did you  type this under the influence of drugs or alcohol??? I really think that statement belongs in the Joe Bernier Hall of Fame along with his Constitution, false imprisonment, etc. statements. This statement may be the best of all ......

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Integrity, Not 'everyone' was nodding in agreement with what you are saying, that is your opinion. I watched it on tv and while Mrs. Knecht herself has said she regrets getting emotional, what she said was appropriate and what Joe's daughter did and said was so out of line, I'm still surprised she wasn't suspended for talking about her principal like that at the meeting, didn't she call her principal a bully or something, just for talking to her about her email about Columbine? This has been debated to death, I'm not going to do that. But your comments about 'everyone agreeing' are just as much your 'opinion' as the other comments.

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tenretni wrote: TO Integrity--- in response to yours of 4/1/08 -- 9:22 a.m.   I, too, was at that particular board meeting, and your perception of what transpired, and my perception of what transpired, are completely, unequivocally different.    I completely agree with w/ posts by RUK (4/1/08 -- 12:12 a.m.) and Dadof3 (4/1/08 -- 7:58 a.m.)  

And, by the way, WHERE IS JOE????   We're still fighting this useless senseless "battle" because his precious daughter was "scorned"??   Give me an ever-livin' break.... she is a FRESHMAN... has anyone ever considered that fact?   She is "fighting" for her "freedom" to be released from "prison" (a/k/a Sunrise Mountain High School) during lunch, and she (as a freshman) would not even have been considered in the "open vs. closed" campus discussion in the first place.   So, to repeat the previous question:   WHERE IS JOE?   He and his daughters are the eye of this storm and they have mysteriously disappeared.   Perhaps they, too, have grown weary of all this.   One can only hope they've found something more important and worthwhile to do than continue their pursuit of a taco at lunch.

 

 

Your opinion nor my opinion counts. What counts is truth, and you do not have truth on your side.  Everyonein the audience was murmuring about how out of hand Kathy Knecht was, and your opinion will not change that.  A woman even stood up to protest how Kathy Knecht was talking to Cheyenne, your opinion cannot change that.

I am sure Joe Bernier has better things to do than argue with people that are only looking for arguments, and are powerless to do anything but argue.  Besides, it isn't just the lunch issue, there is always something that the newest board members are doing that is wrong, the latest is Diane Douglas and Rick Murphy not following the advice of the Ombudsman.


 

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TO Integrity--- in response to yours of 4/1/08 -- 9:22 a.m.   I, too, was at that particular board meeting, and your perception of what transpired, and my perception of what transpired, are completely, unequivocally different.    I completely agree with w/ posts by RUK (4/1/08 -- 12:12 a.m.) and Dadof3 (4/1/08 -- 7:58 a.m.)  

And, by the way, WHERE IS JOE????   We're still fighting this useless senseless "battle" because his precious daughter was "scorned"??   Give me an ever-livin' break.... she is a FRESHMAN... has anyone ever considered that fact?   She is "fighting" for her "freedom" to be released from "prison" (a/k/a Sunrise Mountain High School) during lunch, and she (as a freshman) would not even have been considered in the "open vs. closed" campus discussion in the first place.   So, to repeat the previous question:   WHERE IS JOE?   He and his daughters are the eye of this storm and they have mysteriously disappeared.   Perhaps they, too, have grown weary of all this.   One can only hope they've found something more important and worthwhile to do than continue their pursuit of a taco at lunch.

 

 

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Wouldn't it be amazing if Joe Bernier WERE sitting at home right now and he has all the signatures needed and showed up on APRIL 9 at 5:00 and the recall election was actually on???

I would love it....

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Adam Maras wrote: dadof3 wrote: Adam, what do you hope is a joke?
AREYOUKIDDING ME's continuing countdowns. I'm waiting for a post something like "April Fools! I'm not going to keep posting the same useless countdown over and over anymore. I'm done being obnoxious on the forums!" and some constructive discussion following it.


I understand your pain all too well, Dad. Kind of like when I sat through the same useless speeches by you, Preston, Joe, Joe's kids, etc. over and over and over and over again. Kind of like, what is the point, where is the end game to this, is that what you're feeling Dad?

By the way, Daddio, if you will note, this is the only forum that I choose to participate in. There are numerous other forums that you could be contributing to. For some reason, you keep coming back here and, as the views keep piling up, so do a lot of people. My very earnest suggestion to you and others if  the countdowns are bothering you so much, do not come in here at all and start a highbrow exchange that you are seeking.

THE COUNTDOWN IS DOWN TO THE FINAL WEEK!

 

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integrityforPUSD wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Only 8 more days




and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

Are you becoming senile?  You said 8 days on the 31st too.

No, just a mid-course correction. Kind of like they do on the Challenger missions.

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dadof3 wrote: Adam, what do you hope is a joke?
AREYOUKIDDING ME's continuing countdowns. I'm waiting for a post something like "April Fools! I'm not going to keep posting the same useless countdown over and over anymore. I'm done being obnoxious on the forums!" and some constructive discussion following it.

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Adam, what do you hope is a joke?

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Here's hoping this is all just a rotten April Fools' joke...

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Only 8 more days




and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

Are you becoming senile?  You said 8 days on the 31st too.

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and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Wow, Miss Kitty, you threw that one in from deep right field, didn't you?

I miss Joe, he was so fun to argue with - where is Joe? I thought a Cheyenne comment would surely bring him out of hiding....

How is that right field?  You are the one that keeps going back in time.  Well, as pretty as that might look now that you are older, there are negative things that go along with the past as well.  Maybe that is something you should be considering.

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Wow, Miss Kitty, you threw that one in from deep right field, didn't you?

I miss Joe, he was so fun to argue with - where is Joe? I thought a Cheyenne comment would surely bring him out of hiding....

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: One of my best from the past, but bears repeating as Oakwood chooses to treat these silly videos like they are the smoking guns in a murder case:

When I grew up, the parent called the shots, not vice-versa. Now, too many parents don't want their princesses to be inconvenienced in the least and the result is we are raising a bunch of spoiled brats. I wish we could take back some of the values and beliefs of my parents. Kids like Ms. Bernier would not be hailed as a hero, but one of those kids you don't see for the rest of the semester. Now we have too many spineless parents who can't say to their little kiddies,'You know what, life sucks sometimes. Get over it.'

Kathy Knecht had every right to do what she did.......In fact, I think she showed amazing restraint. Where does a kid get the idea it's okay to write something like that and where does a group of people like this get the idea it's okay to just ignore it????



Oh yes, lets go back to the good ol days when children were seen and not heard.  After all that is when adults took advantage of that by molesting and abusing children without any concern of being discovered. After all children were to respect adults, even those that were hurting them! And they were to keep their mouths closed.  The adult was free to do whatever they wanted.

So if you had your way, children shouldn't take an interest in the laws and rules that effect their everyday lives?  They shouldn't become interested in politics, they shouldn't question political motives?  They shouldn't address the governing board with concerns they have?

 

How backwards or retarded can you get?

 

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dadof3 wrote: OK, is it just me guys or does Oakwood Parent sound like a woman scorned kind of attitude? Oakwood, I don't know any guy who would use their child like you say you did to make these stupid, dumb a** videos intentionally to humiliate someone out of context and then say 'this is the REAL person'. I'm just guessing, but did Mrs. Knecht beat you out for PTA president or something? Did her child beat yours in the spelling bee?  I don't care if you agree or disagree with Mrs. Knecht's actions, either way, your actions are those of a classic bully.
I was at the board meeting when this took place. The reaction of those in attendance toward Kathy Knecht's outburst was shock and disgust.....THAT IS IN CONTEXT!  That was the real person, and her outburst was out of line for the situation no matter what way you try to spin it!

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OK, is it just me guys or does Oakwood Parent sound like a woman scorned kind of attitude? Oakwood, I don't know any guy who would use their child like you say you did to make these stupid, dumb a** videos intentionally to humiliate someone out of context and then say 'this is the REAL person'. I'm just guessing, but did Mrs. Knecht beat you out for PTA president or something? Did her child beat yours in the spelling bee?  I don't care if you agree or disagree with Mrs. Knecht's actions, either way, your actions are those of a classic bully.

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One of my best from the past, but bears repeating as Oakwood chooses to treat these silly videos like they are the smoking guns in a murder case:

When I grew up, the parent called the shots, not vice-versa. Now, too many parents don't want their princesses to be inconvenienced in the least and the result is we are raising a bunch of spoiled brats. I wish we could take back some of the values and beliefs of my parents. Kids like Ms. Bernier would not be hailed as a hero, but one of those kids you don't see for the rest of the semester. Now we have too many spineless parents who can't say to their little kiddies,'You know what, life sucks sometimes. Get over it.'

Kathy Knecht had every right to do what she did.......In fact, I think she showed amazing restraint. Where does a kid get the idea it's okay to write something like that and where does a group of people like this get the idea it's okay to just ignore it????

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AREYOUKIDDING ME you can enjoy this all you want.  Kathy is still what she is.  She may be around for few more years but so will these video to remind us of her true personality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ngfTAZoUKw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b4Z9SCrquE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vtw_BBb5Pg

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areyoukiddingme -- you really ought to get a job, hobby, life ....

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Wow, people, we are getting close to the big day. It's kind of like Christmas, isn't it, it just never seems like it's going to get here!

There have been quite a few questions about how my date went on Saturday night. Well, Dolly's a wonderful gal, a little shy (almost sheepish, you know?), but I really think things are progressing nicely. I'll let you know....

Only 8 more days




and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do.


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onefedupkiddie wrote: I think it's clear now that this is practically self-parody on your part. Not only has the public not said anything about this recall (nobody cares because nobody knows, it was dead on arrival and that's been pretty clear, nobody's talked about it, at all), but nobody clamoring for you to keep on trolling. Only three people are even reading your overblown posts, and none of them even particularly care for it.

Kiddie - I am probably just an idiot, but I don't think I have understood even one post from you this whole time. Or maybe you are, you see everybody kind of knows that nobody has asked to keep the countdown going, that's kind of part of it.....oh, never mind...

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Dad - I would advise you not to converse with me. It could cost you some votes if you are seen interchanging anything but venom with me. I certainly don't want SUMMERS EVE back on here chastising you for talking to such a scoundrel.

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You should let the public select tomorrow's countdown number color.

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Okay, okay, I hear you, people. The countdown will continue. Please quit calling the house, clogging my email, leaving me messages on my cell. Have you noticed I changed it up a bit?  The number will be in a different color every day till the end. Could I have a math major check my number. Am I missing one day?

 
Only 9 more days




and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 31st, 2008 12:14 am
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onefedupkiddie wrote:   Only three people are even reading your overblown posts, and none of them even particularly care for it.


Actually just from how the number climbs on the views of this post, I would hazard to guess there are a fair amount of people reading them, rather than just the three you are mentioning.  In fact, almost without exception the posts that get the highest amount of views are the ones that have to do with PUSD. 

 

By the way Areyoukidding, I would say that the issue of the the governing board of PUSD is arousing a lot of passions from both schools of thought.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 11:52 pm
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onefedupkiddie wrote: and none of them even particularly care for it
Aside from the sheer humor derived from the idiocy flowing from said posts, that is. Maybe that's just me :)

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Dad -

I'm glad you asked. Due to unprecedented response from my public who literally begged me not to miss a day of the countdown, I have cancelled my trip and will be continuing the countdown without missing a beat.
I think it's clear now that this is practically self-parody on your part. Not only has the public not said anything about this recall (nobody cares because nobody knows, it was dead on arrival and that's been pretty clear, nobody's talked about it, at all), but nobody clamoring for you to keep on trolling. Only three people are even reading your overblown posts, and none of them even particularly care for it.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 06:21 pm
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Please, Dad, not the rubber hose, I hate the rubber hose

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Hey Miss Kitty - do me a favor, delete my rather graphic (but informative you'll have to admit) explanation of a douche bag. I don't want Dad to know I was "cussing".
Quite too late for that, I'm afraid.

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dadof3 wrote: RUK, Agree almost 100%. Don't go away completely, some of us enjoy your countdowns and the excuses that get made.
Thanks ,dad of3, but even I'm sick of myself.

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Hey Miss Kitty - do me a favor, delete my rather graphic (but informative you'll have to admit) explanation of a douche bag. I don't want Dad to know I was "cussing".

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RUK, Agree almost 100%. Don't go away completely, some of us enjoy your countdowns and the excuses that get made.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 04:35 pm
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OK, Dad of 3 and Miss Kitty, I agree, enough is enough. I will stop. I think my point has been made - I am absolutely loving seeing this recall fall flat on its face.

To be semi-serious for a bit. I think AnneR has exactly made my point (and not that I'm a douche bag, which I will leave for others to determine). The last eighteen months or so have been a complete farce in this district and I put the blame squarely on this lunch and recall crowd. Instead of simply waiting till the next election to vote in their candidates, they had to essentially put this district in gridlock because they didn't agree with the results of the election. And they acted like spoiled children in the process.....

What has been gained with the silly speeches at the board meetings, the bluster about the recall, and the accusations of conspiracies at every corner? Not one damn thing. If you think I am getting a little bit too much enjoyment from seeing this recall fail, you would be probably be absolutely right. However, as someone who will go to most board meetings and watches all and tries to stay up on issues as much as time allows, I am sick to death of pretentious individuals like PUSDTeacher telling us just to let the insiders steer the boat and you guys just sit there and enjoy the ride. You know what, that's how Challengers happen. There is a function for a school board and it is not to simply rubber stamp everything that comes down the pike from administration and teachers. PUSD's explanation reminded a bit of a child in that she had been getting her way on everything for so long and then the parent came along and told her no about something and she couldn't understand how anyone can do that. I've got news for you, PUSD, the board doesn't have to put their fingers up in the wind and see how public opinion is blowing before every vote. If you don't like the way they vote, then vote them out at the next election, it is so simple to me.

I am sick to death of whiny individuals explaining why the recall failed or why these individuals were voted in. What is glossed over again and again is that they were voted in and the recall fell on its face. We can argue about anything and everything, but the bottom line is that's what happened. In all of the proclamations by Joe, Adam Maras, PUSDteacher, etc., did you all ever really contemplate there might be some backlash here from the tactics of Joe and Co. and there just might be numerous others like me who really just resented the whole grand temper tantrum thrown by this group and the attempt to disrupt the process because they didn't agree with the results? What is a bit ironic is I do not support Kathy Knecht, voted for her in last election but will not if she runs again, and I actually support open campuses if the parents give the permission. I don't support bullies and spoiled children.

I will go away now. My public will be devastated, I have no doubt, but life goes on.

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 Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 02:38 pm
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Integrity, I don't agree with you very often, but on this issue, I think you're right. RUK, I see a lot of what you're saying, although sometimes enough is enough, but I think you crossed the line with that explanation. Although I do think Anne was also over the line to bring it up in the first place.

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote:


I am surprised you have reached that low to actually define something as tacky as a comment like this.  I think you need to rethink why you are on this blog...AND TAKE THOSE HAPPY PILLS!

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 Posted: Sun Mar 30th, 2008 02:29 am
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Thank you for the outstanding responses I received today. I encourage my public to keep up the feedback. It only encourages me to do more.  I will have you all know I have a hot date tonight - she has the hottest little ear tag that just puts me over the edge!!!

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and Kathy Knecht's term in office will be fully validated. If you’re unable to back up your words with enough valid signatures, or win the election, you pretty much give the person you’re aiming at the right to claim they have the community’s support. And, after winning two elections, they can more than make the case that they do.


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 Posted: Sat Mar 29th, 2008 11:07 pm
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AnneR wrote: Maybe if you started to do the same, you might go beyond the petty exchanges you're currently having.  AREYOUKIDDING ME has turned this forum into a farce, and I'm recognizing that, too.
I promise you, the only reason I involve myself in these "petty exchanges" is because I could use some cheap entertainment during my off-hours. While the topics that have invaded by our humerus(sic) forumgoer have, for the most part, degraded into useless banter, there are still quite a few threads of valid conversation remaining that are just that: valid conversation. I wouldn't write off the practicality of this forum just yet.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 29th, 2008 10:25 pm
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Well, I do.

This jerk has never addressed the issues at heart.  Instead of responding to the substance of what you, PUSD teacher and Dadof3 say, they always go off on a tangent that simply isn't germane to the conversation.  I suspect It's probably because they don't have the capacity to answer any logical argument presented to them.  His/her entire intent is to simply be an ass.  I'm just recognizing this person for who they are.

Maybe if you started to do the same, you might go beyond the petty exchanges you're currently having.  AREYOUKIDDING ME has turned this forum into a farce, and I'm recognizing that, too.

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 Posted: Sat Mar 29th, 2008 09:20 pm
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AnneR wrote: Well, we all know how to spell douché bag:  AREYOUKIDDING ME
Far be it from me to be a forum moderator, but I don't think that's particularly called for. We haven't had to resort to cussing thus far...


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