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Hey Kiddie get back to me in about four months......and we'll talk

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For reference AREYOUKIDDINGME, I don't even consider lunch to be a huge election issue right now. Will it be brought up again? Yes. Should it be? Yes. Is it the big important issue of the election and one that your vote should be based around? No. But is it still important? Pretty sure it is.

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Adam Maras wrote: Why don't we talk about something a little touchier, like block scheduling? I'm certain that'll be a huge election issue, especially with Kathy Entringer running for the Governing Board now. I'm not really sure why some Board members and candidates don't like things like students being more fully engaged in their classes, and being able to take advantage of things like the International Baccalaureate program... would someone care to explain that to me?

As a candidate, I would have expected you to state your position on the topic and why you feel that way rather than just question current admin people.

Block scheduling has its pros/cons.  For some classes its good to have the longer block of time (e.g. band, arts, lab type classes) where you need it.  For other classes (e.g. Math) it is not all that great b/c some folks could go 1st semester with math, skip one, then not have math until the next year.  Continuity with some subjects -- again Math -- is important where others its not.

A comprimise would make sense if feasible-- a modified block schedule.

 

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PURSUANT TO A.R.S. 15-905 AND 15-962.D.2 AND 15-110-3.C


There will be a public hearing July 8, 2008 at 7:00 p.m. at the District Administration Building of Peoria Unified School District No. 11 located at 6330 West Thunderbird Road, Glendale, Arizona.


 


At this meeting, the Governing Board of the Peoria Unified School District No. 11 shall present the 2008-09 proposed school district budget for fiscal year 2008-09 as required by 15-905.01.


 


The Budget Summary is available on the public ADE website at http://www.ade.az.gov/schoolfinance. In the budget section, click on “FY 2008-09 Proposed Expenditure Budgets” It is also available on Peoria Unified School District #11 website at 2008-2009 Budget Summary.


  


(s) Dr. Denton Santarelli

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I would think it would be hard to focus on one subject for so long, To few's surprise, I had trouble focusing on a 50 minute class while I did my 32 years of school, much less doubling that.

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Why don't we talk about something a little touchier, like block scheduling? I'm certain that'll be a huge election issue, especially with Kathy Entringer running for the Governing Board now. I'm not really sure why some Board members and candidates don't like things like students being more fully engaged in their classes, and being able to take advantage of things like the International Baccalaureate program... would someone care to explain that to me?

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No_mood wrote: How about overturning the "No Child Left Behind" nonsense and stop graduating illiterate children.
The PUSD school board has no power to do that.  NCLB is a federal program.

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Adam Maras wrote:
When it comes to Old Main, the way I understand it, is that it's going to cost the taxpayers money no matter what is done with it. That being said, I'm quite aware that everybody needs to be involved in the decision regarding that piece of historical Peoria. However, the driving force in the discussion should be the people that will be the most directly influenced by the actions taken on that building, and again, those people are the Peoria High School staff, students, and community.

How old am I? I'm 18 years old. And how much professional experience do I have? Regarding what? Being on a school board? None. Managing budgets? None. Being a member of the community whose most primary concern is the well-being of the students and the teachers of the Peoria Unified School District? Years.

Also, if you took the time to read the opening post on my website's home page, you would have seen that my Issues page will be updated when I have the time to do so. Given the fact that I'm currently in Atlanta with limited internet access, I would hope you'll cut me some slack. Expect updates in the next couple of weeks.


You're running for office.  Don't expect anybody to cut you any slack.  I'm not really getting on your case or trying to mean-- just recognize you're going to be the target of the same rhetoric that current admin folks are.   I'll cut you some slack on updating your site though...  8-)  I did read your opening blurb on your website.  But there's a difference between saying you "will" do something and actually doing it.

The reason I brought up age and experience is... Like any candidate, you're applying for a job.  There are important issues to deal with and accountability for a multi-million dollar budget/organization.   Decisions you make and votes you cast can have significant impact on the community.  Experience in a real world setting (private or public professional setting) often gives one the skills and insight on how to run an organization, how to deal with issues, building relationships, politics, negotiation, collaboration, compromise.  Near as I can tell, you are likely to have little of that.  For that matter, not only would you work for said organization, you'd be responsible for LEADING it.   Caring for the school district is great-- no issue -- but that, in and of itself is not a qualification.  No disrespect intended, but if I were a hiring manager (and have been), the best I'd hire one such as yourself for is an Intern or junior level staff member, not the leader of an organization.

That said, I'm not necessarily trying to discourage you.  But realize that I won't be the only one looking at qualifications.

Good luck.

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How about overturning the "No Child Left Behind" nonsense and stop graduating illiterate children.

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Uncle Fire wrote:Hold on a second.  The budget discussion is not ridiculously.  Maybe a given event (that I've missed) is ridiculous.  But the board is accountable for the budget.  Hiring professionals to do the budget is irrelevant.  You've heard of Arthur Andersen and Enron right?  The board shouldn't second guess every dollar, but the board needs to review the budget.  As a potential board member you should understand the need for appropriate governance and oversight.

From the PUSD site:  "By law, the Governing Board sets District policies and has final authority over all school district business..."

Regarding Old Main, if our tax dollars (including mine) are needed to renovate it then the local admin and/or community don't have final say.  The board should make that decision based on a cost/benefit analysis, not what somebody would like with respect to a historical building.   There are maint., op. costs, and potentially safety issues to consider among other things.  Given the potential for a large capital expenditure, the board must deal with it.

Your positions sound somewhat naive to me.  Remind us now- exactly how old are you and how much professional experience do you have?

I found it somewhat amusing that you state the "open campus" topoic won't be your focus, yet your web site "issues" page lists only that one.

Yes, the Board is accountable for the budget, and yes they should review it. However, if you've been paying attention to the recent meetings that have had the budget on the agenda, you'll see that the Board is trying to manage every dollar, and it's not getting us anywhere. I know how important the budget is, and I'm standing by my faith in the professionals that are working for the district regarding formulating an acceptable budget.

When it comes to Old Main, the way I understand it, is that it's going to cost the taxpayers money no matter what is done with it. That being said, I'm quite aware that everybody needs to be involved in the decision regarding that piece of historical Peoria. However, the driving force in the discussion should be the people that will be the most directly influenced by the actions taken on that building, and again, those people are the Peoria High School staff, students, and community.

How old am I? I'm 18 years old. And how much professional experience do I have? Regarding what? Being on a school board? None. Managing budgets? None. Being a member of the community whose most primary concern is the well-being of the students and the teachers of the Peoria Unified School District? Years.

Also, if you took the time to read the opening post on my website's home page, you would have seen that my Issues page will be updated when I have the time to do so. Given the fact that I'm currently in Atlanta with limited internet access, I would hope you'll cut me some slack. Expect updates in the next couple of weeks.

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I will weigh in on this topic and I will not bring up whether or not a campus should be open or closed, that topic has been beaten to death and has come to closure with the current policy that is in place.

I would like to see better signage at ALL school zones. I believe all school zones should be equipped with permanently fixed signs on the sides of the road that are fluorescent in color and eye catching, perhaps with blinking yellow lights to warn drivers that they are approaching a school zone. This signage should be at least 6' - 8' off the ground.

The signage that is currently in place is absolutely ridiculous and irresponsible. What the PUSD and the city provide as signage is placed in the traffic lane, is @ 4' in height and is visually blocked by the onslaught of SUV's, minivans and now truck traffic that dominate this city. This scenario is dangerous and our children deserve better. Besides that the current school zone signage is very difficult to read even when your vision is not blocked by a larger vehicle because the current signage is sun faded and beat up from being moved every day during the school year, and did I mention in the middle of a traffic lane.




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Adam Maras wrote:
You are absolutely right, the budget discussion is ridiculous. In fact, I don't believe we should be having it at all. While community and staff input to the budget is obviously a needed part of the process, what some members of the Board need to keep in mind is that the school district has hired professionals to manage our money. If we're paying these people to take care of our budget, why is the Board busy second-guessing every dollar that passes through?

Regarding Old Main, that decision should be left to the Peoria High School administration and their local community. Many, many people (including Dr. Carter, if I remember correctly?) have spoken in favor of renovating this historical building. I don't think anyone is more qualified to make that decision than the community that surround that building. That being said, if Old Main is deemed to be significantly more trouble than it's worth, then I see no reason to keep it around either. I'm holding off an opinion on this matter until we hear more information about the structural analysis of the building.

Have I answered your questions sufficiently?




Hold on a second.  The budget discussion is not ridiculously.  Maybe a given event (that I've missed) is ridiculous.  But the board is accountable for the budget.  Hiring professionals to do the budget is irrelevant.  You've heard of Arthur Andersen and Enron right?  The board shouldn't second guess every dollar, but the board needs to review the budget.  As a potential board member you should understand the need for appropriate governance and oversight.

From the PUSD site:  "By law, the Governing Board sets District policies and has final authority over all school district business..."

Regarding Old Main, if our tax dollars (including mine) are needed to renovate it then the local admin and/or community don't have final say.  The board should make that decision based on a cost/benefit analysis, not what somebody would like with respect to a historical building.   There are maint., op. costs, and potentially safety issues to consider among other things.  Given the potential for a large capital expenditure, the board must deal with it.

Your positions sound somewhat naive to me.  Remind us now- exactly how old are you and how much professional experience do you have?

I found it somewhat amusing that you state the "open campus" topoic won't be your focus, yet your web site "issues" page lists only that one.
 

 


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Thank you for the correction, AnnieR. I thought surely someone had called me an ahole, but you're right, it was douche bag.

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Well, as someone who kicked AYKM around once before noted, he's posted a photo of his dream date again. No one called you an a hole, by the way, although I did call you a douche bag. I'd apologize, but just about every post you've made since then has pretty much proven me right.

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You seem to be a stickler for the rules of this forum, is it okay for other posters to call me stupid, fool, and ahole or are those considered violations? I'm just checking because those three are almost middle names anymore. It's so hurtful..I don't understand why people have to be so mean to me..

And would I be considered a bit of a wussy if I reported this namecalling to the forum police for people calling me stupid, fool, ahole, or calling me something like Bimbo or bumbo????

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AreYouKidding Me wrote:  "There appears to be a problem with some inappropriate posting on this forum and it needs to stop immediately!!!I think we should start out by getting rid of inappropriate names like Bigjimandthe twins (although makes me chuckle), there is just no room for that here..."

For once I must agree, at least in part, with you AYKM.  I have found several violations lately. 

But, as for my name, I think it is appropriate for a stay-at-home dad -- Just big ol' me and my handsomely plump twins.  :D:dude::D

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There appears to be a problem with some inappropriate posting on this forum and it needs to stop immediately!!!I think we should start out by getting rid of inappropriate names like Bigjimandthe twins (although makes me chuckle), there is just no room for that here...

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Unfortunately, everybody in the district will have to pay the cost of making this building a museum, not just the people who live around it. If they were building a school or something that had to with education, I wouldn't have a problem with it.  In economic times as these that are going to get worse before they get better, some tough choices are going to have to be made....This is not a decision for the people who live around it, it is a decision of the five elected officials who represent the whole district.

And, really, why did they wait so long before doing these studies on this building.?Why don't they already have the answer on this???

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Do you put Raeder and Galbraith in this category of 'some of the people currently on the Governing Board are doing a bad job of managing our school district with many issues'?
I'll say this: all five of the current Governing Board members have made decisions that I don't agree with. However, I would say that I see eye-to-eye with them much more than with the other three.

AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: By the way, I think this is budget debate is ridiculous. With so many unknowns that go into a budget (like the price of oil), they are not going to get it to the penny. A budget is only an estimate and I think the district people came pretty close, considering the size of the budget they have to work with. I don't see the problem here.....and Raeder was one of them joining in to this spanking of the controller.

I say plow OLD Main down and start over. The district isn't in the museum business, but educating kids.

What are your positions on these?

You are absolutely right, the budget discussion is ridiculous. In fact, I don't believe we should be having it at all. While community and staff input to the budget is obviously a needed part of the process, what some members of the Board need to keep in mind is that the school district has hired professionals to manage our money. If we're paying these people to take care of our budget, why is the Board busy second-guessing every dollar that passes through?

Regarding Old Main, that decision should be left to the Peoria High School administration and their local community. Many, many people (including Dr. Carter, if I remember correctly?) have spoken in favor of renovating this historical building. I don't think anyone is more qualified to make that decision than the community that surround that building. That being said, if Old Main is deemed to be significantly more trouble than it's worth, then I see no reason to keep it around either. I'm holding off an opinion on this matter until we hear more information about the structural analysis of the building.

Have I answered your questions sufficiently?

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I have no intention of backing down from my beliefs on school lunches. Should anybody come up to me and ask me if I would do everything in my power to open the campuses back up once elected, the answer they would receive is a firm "yes." That being said, there is no "one issue" that stands out above the rest in my campaign. I believe that some of the people currently on the Governing Board are doing a bad job of managing our school district with many issues, not the least of which are the budget, the work on Peoria High School's Old Main building, and avoided topics like high school modernization.


By the way, I think this budget debate is ridiculous. With so many unknowns that go into a budget (like the price of oil), they are not going to get it to the penny. A budget is only an estimate and I think the district people came pretty close, considering the size of the budget they have to work with. I don't see the problem here.....and Raeder was one of them joining in to this spanking of the controller.

I say plow OLD Main down and start over. The district isn't in the museum business, but educating kids.

What are your positions on these?

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Do you put Raeder and Galbraith in this category of 'some of the people currently on the Governing Board are doing a bad job of managing our school district with many issues'?

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Adam Maras wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: So what you're saying is lunch will barely be mentioned in your campaign because there are so many other much more important issues for the district? When I drive by your campaign posters around town I won't see prominently "In favor of opening the campuses" because there are so many other important issues that will drown out lunch?
What if I told you not one of my campaign advertisements will mention lunch?

I would say you would be committing political suicide if you did not mention you are a backer of open lunches at every turn. Equating this with the presidential election, it is much the same as McCain with the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT. A majority in this country, in my opinion, think they are bunch of acorns, but these acorns get out and vote and McCain has to pander to them or he will lose for sure. I also think a majority in this district think that this lunch issue is ludicrous. But, many of the backers of lunch will have one issue on their minds come election time and that is lunch and you can bet they will get out and vote. You have credibility with the lunch crowd because you were one of the filibuster group at the board meetings. As much as it pains me to say this, lunch is not going away any time soon....

I have no intention of backing down from my beliefs on school lunches. Should anybody come up to me and ask me if I would do everything in my power to open the campuses back up once elected, the answer they would receive is a firm "yes." That being said, there is no "one issue" that stands out above the rest in my campaign. I believe that some of the people currently on the Governing Board are doing a bad job of managing our school district with many issues, not the least of which are the budget, the work on Peoria High School's Old Main building, and avoided topics like high school modernization.

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Adam Maras wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: So what you're saying is lunch will barely be mentioned in your campaign because there are so many other much more important issues for the district? When I drive by your campaign posters around town I won't see prominently "In favor of opening the campuses" because there are so many other important issues that will drown out lunch?
What if I told you not one of my campaign advertisements will mention lunch?

I would say you would be committing political suicide if you did not mention you are a backer of open lunches at every turn. Equating this with the presidential election, it is much the same as McCain with the CONSERVATIVE RIGHT. A majority in this country, in my opinion, think they are bunch of acorns, but these acorns get out and vote and McCain has to pander to them or he will lose for sure. I also think a majority in this district think that this lunch issue is ludicrous. But, many of the backers of lunch will have one issue on their minds come election time and that is lunch and you can bet they will get out and vote. You have credibility with the lunch crowd because you were one of the filibuster group at the board meetings. As much as it pains me to say this, lunch is not going away any time soon....

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Peoria Dad wrote: I know where you can find lots of reasons not to vote for Douglas, and he just posted a few more this weekend:

http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com

And, yes, Kidding, I did this just to piss off people like you.

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I have one interest in the next election:  unseating the incumbents.  And I mean ALL of them.  They have made a mess of an excellent school district, and we need people that will address what's best for kids and kids only.

AnneR

You did it. You actually do have an opinion. I feel like I just watched my child ride the two-wheeler for the first time...

Can I say, I'm actually proud of you.........

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: Have you tried giving them a book to read, Jumbo??? You know, the more kids read the better they write......
It's Big Jim and The Twins, if you please.  And, I do fun home schooling projects with my kids when school is not in session.

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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: So what you're saying is lunch will barely be mentioned in your campaign because there are so many other much more important issues for the district? When I drive by your campaign posters around town I won't see prominently "In favor of opening the campuses" because there are so many other important issues that will drown out lunch?
What if I told you not one of my campaign advertisements will mention lunch?

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 Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 12:27 am
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Nick Coury is going to run! Good luck, Nick. I think you will prove to be a most interesting candidate.

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Oh my God, I think AnneR just stated an opinion about something. She wants to unseat all the incumbents!!!!!

I really thought I would never see this day.......

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 11:34 pm
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I know where you can find lots of reasons not to vote for Douglas, and he just posted a few more this weekend:

http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com

And, yes, Kidding, I did this just to piss off people like you.

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 11:32 pm
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Gee, AYKM, for someone so interested in putting this issue to bed, you sure do bring it up a lot.  What's the matter, not smart enough to address real issues?  Or are real issues to hard for your to spin?  I'm placing my money on door number two.

I have one interest in the next election:  unseating the incumbents.  And I mean ALL of them.  They have made a mess of an excellent school district, and we need people that will address what's best for kids and kids only.

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 11:01 pm
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So what you're saying is lunch will barely be mentioned in your campaign because there are so many other much more important issues for the district? When I drive by your campaign posters around town I won't see prominently "In favor of opening the campuses" because there are so many other important issues that will drown out lunch?

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 09:01 pm
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: No, I didn't say what maybe should be an issue, I said what will be.....
Adam Maras wrote:
You're missing options for "transparency" and "community interest."
Believe it or not, there are people that actually care about the well-being of the students and the education system. Yes, there are people out there that are under the impression that lunch is the only election issue... and I do feel sorry for those people, because that opinion would imply that they don't know about all the other things going on that keep this school district running.

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No, I didn't say what maybe should be an issue, I said what will be.....the lunch crowd just can't wait to get their lunch candidates in office.  95% of the questions during the campaign will be questions about lunch..I  can see it now..

Mr. Candidate:

I know you're a sleazeball which really doesn't matter that much to me, but are you going to allow Johnny and Suzie to come home at lunch????

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 06:05 pm
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You're missing options for "transparency" and "community interest."

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 Posted: Sun Jun 22nd, 2008 03:42 pm
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I can't wait for school to start.  It will get some of these children off their computers and back in the classroom where they can be a little more productive.

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