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Posted: Mon Mar 30th, 2009 10:43 pm |
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In other words, you don't know what you're talking about. So, yes, lets meet. I would enjoy nothing more than to embarrass a know-nothing like you publicly.
And, if you're so unhappy, why don't you just leave? Last edited on Mon Mar 30th, 2009 10:43 pm by DanaM
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Posted: Mon Mar 30th, 2009 05:10 am |
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Dana-- Rather than revealing true identity of certain folks on this blog, why don't we talk about it at the next PUSD forum (at Peoria High) I'm sure our friend "Michael" will be there, too. See you on Wednesday.
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Have you thought about therapy? Dr Gymsocks Dude has done wonders for me.....Just a thought.......
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Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 10:27 pm |
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unhappyinpusd wrote: Thanks for the advice, but I don't think I need to "grow a backbone."
Oh, but you do. Now, c'mon, spill. Show us how smart you are . . . or if you're just another blowhard who thinks they know it all.
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Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 04:34 am |
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Dana: You seem to be very angry lately. Thanks for the advice, but I don't think I need to "grow a backbone." Why should I take the fun out of the guessing game for the rest of the folks on this blog as to the true identity of Apache Mom/Peoria Dad?? You and I both know who he/she really is, so let's leave it at that and not spoil the fun for everyone else. BTW: I saw our friend "Michael Erickson" (wink/wink) at Cactus High School tonight.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2009 08:22 pm |
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unhappyinpusd wrote: Not that it really matters, but I believe everyone posting on this blog knows the true identity of Apache Mom/Peoria Dad. Just ask Michael Erickson.
If you're so sure of yourself, grow a backbone and dish it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25th, 2009 02:32 pm |
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DanaM wrote: Oh, of course. Now be honest: it annoys you to no end knowing that the entire neighborhood is laughing at you.
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Yes, it hurts me deeply. Why must you all be so mean to me?
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 11:54 pm |
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Not that it really matters, but I believe everyone posting on this blog knows the true identity of Apache Mom/Peoria Dad. Just ask Michael Erickson.
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Posted: Tue Mar 24th, 2009 09:52 pm |
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Oh, of course. Now be honest: it annoys you to no end knowing that the entire neighborhood is laughing at you.
And just who is Apache Mom? Show us your brilliance.
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Posted: Thu Mar 19th, 2009 11:26 pm |
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Peoria Dad wrote:
And I'm willing to be the house, dog and car that you don't know who Apache Mom is, because if you did you would have announced it. Still, it must infuriate you that most of us know who you are, no matter what personality you may be posting under.
And, for the record, I have never defended her. As for Erickson, at least he provides good, accurate information. What have you ever contributed?
Not only are you a jerk and stupid, and you are also gutless.
Peoria Dad
If I had to pick one, will you be the dog.....you have the same mentality and IQ so I would have to pick the dog.....and you follow your master Erickson just like a puppy dog...
It probably only infuriates the person you think I am because your friend Nada is way off. I will continue to be that person if you all in that sewing circle insist. I rather liked being rich - even in make-believe.....
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Here are the ideas. Lets discuss those instead of personalities.
Idea 1: Suspend all education tax credits. Why? Because it will add more than $100 million to the state’s general fund. Besides, most of the money goes to private schools, and what does go to public schools is for extracurricular activities. Our legislators are constitutionally bound to provide and fund a public education for this state’s children. During a time of financial crisis when they have made it clear that they cannot fund what the law obligates them to, legislators have no business financing private schools or extras in public schools. Besides, the state isn't asking either private schools or charter schools, which they fund, to share in the budget cuts. It is only fair that they do.
Of course, if our legislators were really serious about cleaning up the budget mess they would suspend all tax credits. Doing so would add a total of $340 million to the state’s general fund.
Idea 2: Re-implement the Qualifying Tax Rate (QTR). If they legislature were to do this another $588 million would be restored to the general fund.
At one time all of us paid into the QTR through our property taxes, and every single penny went to education. Three years ago the state legislature decided that they would pay for this out of their general fund instead. Several legislators, including Senate President Bob Burns, want to repeal the QTR permanently.
The question is why? Why would legislative leaders faced with a monumental deficit want to do away with a source of revenue they should have never been paying in the first place? One word: politics.
Re-instituting the QTR would cost the average Arizona homeowner less than $60 per year. Burns and others in the legislature say re-instituting the QTR would be tax increase. That’s a lie. What it would be is the end of a tax holiday they should never have created in the first place.
Idea 3: Do not permanently eliminate the county equalization tax. Opening this revenue stream and you can add another $250 million to the state’s general fund.
Idea 4: Freeze or reduce the state’s homeowner rebate. This idea adds another $250 million to the general fund.
Most of you don’t know this, but the state pays for the first 38 percent of every homeowner’s property tax bill. That’s right, for every $100 you owe, the first $38 are paid by the state. That figure is scheduled to go up to 39 percent next year. By freezing, or rolling the homeowner's rebate back to 2004 levels, it’s possible to add $250 million to the state's general fund and, because property rates have gone down, do it without a tax increase.
Taken together, these steps will add another $1.48 billion to the state’s general fund, and the 20 percent the legislature wants to take from every school district’s budget would drop precipitously. Add in dollars targeted to education in President Barack Obama’s stimulus package, and the needs for any cuts to education would likely go away.
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cheerleaderforclosers wrote: And you are not married to Apache Mom despite the fact you both joined this forum on exactly the same day, you both have this unhealthy adulation of Michael Erickson, Peoria Dad always comes to the vehement defense of Apache Mom whenever something derogatory is said about Apache Mom (which I do at every opportunity), you both have been a one-family marketing firm touting Erickson's last post......
And I do know who Apache Mom is in real life.....
You are correct. We are not married, and we do not know each other.
And I'm willing to be the house, dog and car that you don't know who Apache Mom is, because if you did you would have announced it. Still, it must infuriate you that most of us know who you are, no matter what personality you may be posting under.
And, for the record, I have never defended her. As for Erickson, at least he provides good, accurate information. What have you ever contributed?
Not only are you a jerk and stupid, and you are also gutless.
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Peoria Dad wrote: The evidence suggests you are both.
And you are not married to Apache Mom despite the fact you both joined this forum on exactly the same day, you both have this unhealthy adulation of Michael Erickson, Peoria Dad always comes to the vehement defense of Apache Mom whenever something derogatory is said about Apache Mom (which I do at every opportunity), you both have been a one-family marketing firm touting Erickson's last post......
And I do know who Apache Mom is in real life.....
Again, I was born at night, but not last night.....By the way, do you two have any opinions of your own or is it always 'I'll get back to YOU on that, I have to ask my neighbor what my opinion is.'
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Here are the ideas. Lets discuss those instead of personalities.
Idea 1: Suspend all education tax credits. Why? Because it will add more than $100 million to the state’s general fund. Besides, most of the money goes to private schools, and what does go to public schools is for extracurricular activities. Our legislators are constitutionally bound to provide and fund a public education for this state’s children. During a time of financial crisis when they have made it clear that they cannot fund what the law obligates them to, legislators have no business financing private schools or extras in public schools. Besides, the state isn't asking either private schools or charter schools, which they fund, to share in the budget cuts. It is only fair that they do.
Of course, if our legislators were really serious about cleaning up the budget mess they would suspend all tax credits. Doing so would add a total of $340 million to the state’s general fund.
Idea 2: Re-implement the Qualifying Tax Rate (QTR). If they legislature were to do this another $588 million would be restored to the general fund.
At one time all of us paid into the QTR through our property taxes, and every single penny went to education. Three years ago the state legislature decided that they would pay for this out of their general fund instead. Several legislators, including Senate President Bob Burns, want to repeal the QTR permanently.
The question is why? Why would legislative leaders faced with a monumental deficit want to do away with a source of revenue they should have never been paying in the first place? One word: politics.
Re-instituting the QTR would cost the average Arizona homeowner less than $60 per year. Burns and others in the legislature say re-instituting the QTR would be tax increase. That’s a lie. What it would be is the end of a tax holiday they should never have created in the first place.
Idea 3: Do not permanently eliminate the county equalization tax. Opening this revenue stream and you can add another $250 million to the state’s general fund.
Idea 4: Freeze or reduce the state’s homeowner rebate. This idea adds another $250 million to the general fund.
Most of you don’t know this, but the state pays for the first 38 percent of every homeowner’s property tax bill. That’s right, for every $100 you owe, the first $38 are paid by the state. That figure is scheduled to go up to 39 percent next year. By freezing, or rolling the homeowner's rebate back to 2004 levels, it’s possible to add $250 million to the state's general fund and, because property rates have gone down, do it without a tax increase.
Taken together, these steps will add another $1.48 billion to the state’s general fund, and the 20 percent the legislature wants to take from every school district’s budget would drop precipitously. Add in dollars targeted to education in President Barack Obama’s stimulus package, and the needs for any cuts to education would likely go away.
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Posted: Sat Mar 14th, 2009 06:56 pm |
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The evidence suggests you are both.
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| Oh Peoria Dad, I'm a jerk, but I'm not stupid...... Last edited on Sat Mar 14th, 2009 12:24 am by
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| I don't know her, and I don't think you do either. Frankly, neither one of us is in a position to judge. Until proven otherwise, I'm willing to take her word for it.
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| I suppose I agree with that....but when I read that this person only did it for noble causes, it makes me throw up a little bit in my mouth....
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| Apparently you don't. The law makes no distinction. You either obey the law, or you don't, which is exactly what your buddies Diane Douglas and Rick Murphy have chosen to do.
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| I completely understand the law....it was still done by a person with an agenda and a vendetta.... Last edited on Fri Mar 13th, 2009 09:39 pm by
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godfly wrote: I agree. That's on par with going through someone's emails.....Agree, Apache Mommy?
As is often your habit, you're comparing apples and oranges. E-mail to public officials, including the name of the people who sent or received them, is a matter of public record. Students names, addresses, et. al., are not.
Now, let's talk about enhancing revenues: http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com
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And how would you know whether his kids may or may not have a different surname? Enrollment information is NOT a matter of public record, so are you a district employee who is looking at records without authorization, or are you having someone do it for you? Please let me know. I'm sure I'm not the only parent who would also like to put a stop to this.
I agree. That's on par with going through someone's emails.....Agree, Apache Mommy?
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Peoria Daddy
How big is that statue you and Apache Mommy erected in your front yard? I've been told it's life size.
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unhappyinpusd wrote: I don't wish Erickson didn't exist. I know he doesn't exist.
Really, do you have any proof of this?
As I said in another thread, does it really matter where or who a good idea or two comes from? What's the harm in publishing these ideas and have our legislators and community respond. It seems to me that if there is a way not to take an axe to education spending, we should spend time exploring it. This guy seems to be the only one who has offered any ideas in this direction. Finally, this post seems to me to be well researched. Do you have any evidence that it is not? I do not see the harm in opening this discussion, and perhaps its time you open your mind.
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There are many more ways of contacting the governing board than by speaking at a meeting. Let me help you: there's e-mail, fax and telephones (both cell and land line). You have absolutely no idea whether he has contacted them personally or not, so just let go.
And how would you know whether his kids may or may not have a different surname? Enrollment information is NOT a matter of public record, so are you a district employee who is looking at records without authorization, or are you having someone do it for you? Please let me know. I'm sure I'm not the only parent who would also like to put a stop to this.
Before you leave another comment (and frankly, make an ass out of yourself agin) perhaps you should read the blog post. He said he spoke to legislators. Unless you have any evidence to the contrary, I suggest again that you let it go.
And, really, I cannot wait to tell my neighbor that he does not exist, or that his kids don't, either. I'm sure that will come as quite a shock to him. And you should also know that as part of his job he testifies before the legislature often using his real name: Michael Erickson.
You also managed to not answer the question: are you genuinely frightened of having an open discussion because you know the position taken by Lesko, Murphy and Burns (all known and documented liars) is indefensable? (And, BTW, I am not the guy on typo patrol, that's job belongs to another Douglas/Murphy sheep like you.)
Finally, the only one who doesn't know what they're talking about around here is you. Like your pals from LD 9, you rather deal in invective than in ideas.
So again, to continue the adult conversation all, go to http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com.
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PEORIA DAD wrote:
"Besides, as an anonymous poster, you have no room to talk."
Oh, really? May I ask you a question, dad? Does this mean that since you, too, are an "anonymous poster," you have no room to talk, either? That works for me. Silence is golden. Especially when you don't know what you're talking about.
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I don't wish Erickson didn't exist. I know he doesn't exist. If his kids attend school in PUSD, they must have a different surname. It's a matter of public record, dad. And, if he has spoken at a board meeting, he, too, must be using a different name.
It's obvious you did not vote for our current LD9 legislators. However, I'm sure you will acknowledge, dad, that they are dealing with an unprecedented economic crisis, thanks to our pal Nappy. I suggest your pal Michael take a little field trip to the State Capitol and attend one of the legislative sessions, and send his comments loud and clear. Just be sure he remembers his name because he will have to show identification.
Oh - and, by the way - since we're on grammar patrol -- the word is "indefensible," not "indefensable." Just a little FYI. Thank goodness for Spalding. Whole language is not what it's cracked up to be.
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As I have said in the past, Erickson lives in my neighborhood, and is someone I see and speak to often. The family is very involved with their kids' schools. You wish Erickson didn't exist, and it the fact that he points out things we should need to know instead of letting Douglas and Murphy operate in secret bothers you to know end.
Besides, as an anonymous poster, you have no room to talk.
And, by the way, how do you know he hasn't taken his suggestion directly to the school board members? You don't, so stop pretending you know what you're talking about.
You ought to try reading his latest post on opening revenue streams. As someone else said, at least it's a place to start the discussion, something our legislators are unwilling to do. Or are you genuinely frightened of having an open discussion because you know the position taken by Lesko, Murphy and Burns (all known and documented liars) are indefensable?
http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com
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Why doesn't "The Independent" publish Michael Erickson's opinions???? Probably because "he/she" doesn't really exist. Has anyone ever met Erickson? Has Erickson (who seems to have so much inside information about PUSD, and so much criticism towards certain members of the Board) ever come forward and addressed his/her concerns during a Board meeting? We all know the answer.
The State of Arizona is in a financial mess. It affects all of us. And funds are being cut everywhere. I sympathize with the teachers, but I also sympathize with all others whose budgets are also being cut (in a much bigger way) throughout the State. It's a mess. And - sorry to say - it's only going to get worse. Let's face it folks-- this is just the tip of the iceberg. The big dudes in Washington are spending (and printing) money faster than we can blink an eye. Our children, and our children's children, will be footing the bill. The dollar will be worthless in short order; our economy is in the tank; and we're headed for a socialist regime in the good ol' USA. God help us.
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| Since he seems to be the only one with ideas to enhance revenue, why doesn't the Independent publish Mr. Erickson's suggestions?
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My heart goes out to all these teachers, but there are solutions, and we must force our legislators to listen. Click on this link to read them:
http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com
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Editor's note: Copied below is a letter to the editor submitted to the Peoria Independent. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."
It is still very difficult for me to grasp the fact that our schools are being impacted by the budget cuts to such an extent that, ultimately, the students will suffer. What kind of a future do we have to look forward to if we don’t put the education of our children as a first priority? It is no secret that without education we would not have doctors, lawyers, engineers, politicians or even a president for that matter. What kind of a message are we sending to our children? Are we telling them that education is not important? Our leaders, who achieved their successes first and foremost by having had an education are condemning our children to have fewer opportunities and our country to have fewer leaders in the future.
What is it going to take for everyone to realize that education should be one of our country’s top priorities? What will it take for us to realize, and then become proactive enough so that educators are appreciated and compensated accordingly for having one of the most difficult and challenging jobs?
How is it that we will pay our athletes millions upon millions of dollars for a season and yet there is not enough money to keep qualified teaching staff and school personnel? Why do we need to then crowd our classrooms and schools only to lessen the quality of education the students will receive so that we can still be able to call it an education? Why is it that highways are being built and streets refreshed when we are in such a money crunch? There is a reason why we are already 49th in the country for per pupil spending, we can’t get much lower. We need to get our priorities straight as a state and as a country!
Yes, these are difficult times for everyone. People are losing jobs, struggling to their keep homes, businesses are closing down, individuals and businesses are moving out of state in hopes of a better situation. There is going to have to be sacrifices to be made in order to get out of the mess we have created, but one of them should not be in the area of education. In order to have a better tomorrow, we have to prepare our children for that tomorrow and education is a large part of that preparation. Children should not have to lose their opportunities to have physical education, art, music, after school programs, etc. Education is not all about class work but in teaching children sportsmanship, to be open-minded, how to collaborate and cooperate with each others, how to think not only for themselves but for the bigger picture, the importance of character building and risk taking. Cutting programs and crowding classrooms to the extent that teaching and learning becomes so difficult that teachers lose their desire to teach and students lose interest in learning is not the answer we need.
Mind you, schools are not the only ones that shouldn’t be impacted; however, they are in fact the foundation from which the majority of all work is derived. Please, don’t take a chance at having a future away from our children. They need and have a right to receive the best education possible, for all of our sakes.
Christine D. Simon
Special Education Teacher
Vistancia Elementary School
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