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That's exceedingly accommodating of you.
Only one minute!!! pretty good huh?
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| Of course I'll give you another chance....I always do.
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| d**n I had to edit again.....give me another chance.....
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gad fly wrote: I think you need to get some smarter characters or I need to dumb down a lot. Then maybe we will have a meeting of the minds....
If I may quote you, "Huh?"
Yet, such as it is, look at YOU! I'm so proud you did this without any editing this time--Yeah! 
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I think you need to get some smarter characters or I need to dumb down a lot. Then maybe we will have a meeting of the minds....
Can you combine all the IQs of all your characters somehow? Not sure how exactly you do that but it might help with our communication problem....
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gad fly wrote: Huh?
Wow, that was deep.....didn't understand a word of it, but what's new?
Almost an hour of editing.......and this is all you could put together.
LOL....Really. A lot of things go right over head, don't they?
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Huh?
Wow, that was deep.....didn't understand a word of it, but what's new?
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Pat56 wrote: Gays certainly don't mind being given their rights to free speech--as they should have. But they need to respect others as well.
That is so true Pat. People such as that are hypocrites and usually call the ACLU or dust off a copy of the Constitution to try and prove their point. When anyone they don't like tries to speak then they try to shut them down as quickly as possible shoving all the rules under the rug.
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| Well, it certainly is a good thing they took that Areyoukidding me person off the forum. He was a real creep. He seriously needed to get a life.
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote:
Gays don't have a problem with things of a sexual nature being displayed in front of kids. After all, EVERYTHING is sexual to them.
As for why homos are not acceptable, well, the act of two men plugging each other in the hind-end is not only goofy but it's really gross. Someone needs to tell them they barking up the wrong tree...LOL 
True, your last statement wasn't quite as ignorant as this one.....but certainly was in the same zip code....Last edited on Thu Oct 22nd, 2009 05:16 pm by gad fly
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gad fly wrote: I must say I'm not surprised.....but that has to be one of the more ignorant statements I have heard in quite some time.
Isn't this analogous to some white guy in the 60s saying: 'Those uppity n******; pretty soon they're going to think they have as much right to Constitutional rights as we do!!!!'
You're just looking to pick a fight. I said that gays have the right to free speech but they also need to be aware that others have that same right. Pretty simple message and easy to understand. Why it went over your head?..... I haven't a clue.
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I must say I'm not surprised.....but that has to be one of the more ignorant statements I have heard in quite some time.
Isn't this analogous to some white guy in the 60s saying: 'Those uppity n******; pretty soon they're going to think they have as much right to Constitutional rights as we do!!!!'
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| Gays certainly don't mind being given their rights to free speech--as they should have. But they need to respect others as well.
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Thanks Rational/areyoukidding me with a moustache .......and you're a narrowminded bigot...
big⋅ot
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
Would you or anybody else like to take a another shot at why anyone's sexual preference affects you?
Like I am with PUSDTeacher, I am so comforted to know you're in the front of the classroom of a bunch of kids.....
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| Areyounotkiddingme...LOL...you're such a tool. Last edited on Thu May 14th, 2009 05:58 pm by SometimesRational
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areyounotkidding me wrote: Don't tell anyone, but, I'm not a hetrosexual. However, my friend Johnna and I are going to get married anywhere in America so we can collect some nifty tax benefits. It's okay. We don't believe in God, so the ceremony really holds no meaning. (I mean, I suppose some hetrosexuals say they want to get married because they're in love. We all know that they could just perform any kind of ceremony if that were the case. No reason to make it binding except that they want to try to legitimize and normalize themselves in society....oh, and the tax benefits. Politics and money.)
LOL.....That's funny. The only original word you inserted....and you misspelled it! HAHAHAHA
Besides, you forgot, it is quite normal for a male and female to be together--legitimate and normal.
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Don't tell anyone, but, I'm not a hetrosexual. However, my friend Johnna and I are going to get married anywhere in America so we can collect some nifty tax benefits. It's okay. We don't believe in God, so the ceremony really holds no meaning. (I mean, I suppose some hetrosexuals say they want to get married because they're in love. We all know that they could just perform any kind of ceremony if that were the case. No reason to make it binding except that they want to try to legitimize and normalize themselves in society....oh, and the tax benefits. Politics and money.)
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Don't tell anyone, but, I'm not gay. However, my friend John and I are going to get married in Iowa so we can collect some nifty tax benefits. It's okay. We don't believe in God, so the ceremony really holds no meaning. (I mean, I suppose some gays say they want to get married because they're in love. We all know that they could just perform any kind of ceremony if that were the case. No reason to make it binding except that they want to try to legitimize and normalize themselves in society....oh, and the tax benefits. Politics and money.)
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I predict in my lifetime all 50 states (well 49, all except AZ) will allow same-sex marriages and attitudes like Concerned Mama shows on this forum will be seen much like the prejudice of Black people is looked upon today - silly, backward, and nonsensical.....Who knows, maybe even a gay president????? I don't understand the problem that people have with it???Can anyone give me a clue - what's the problem?
Same-sex marriage, also referred to as gay marriage, is a marriage between two persons of the same sex. Currently the federal government of the United States does not recognize same-sex marriage, under the Defense of Marriage Act, but same-sex marriage is currently legal in two states: Massachusetts and Connecticut. Same-sex marriage will be legal in Iowa on April 27, 2009 and Vermont on September 1, 2009.[1] Vermont was the most recent state to allow same-sex marriage as well as the first state to do so through legislative means.[2][3][4] The issue is a divisive political issue in the United States and elsewhere. The social movement to obtain the rights and responsibilities of marriages in the United States for same-sex couples began in the early 1970s, and the issue became a prominent one in U.S. politics in the 1990s
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No_mood wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: No_mood wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: areyounotkidding me wrote: I really feel for parents today - my kids are now teenagers almost out OF high school, but when did the sexual conversation become such an accepted thing? The Viagra commercials, KY Jelly commercials......I can just imagine my youngest asking the question if these commercials would have been on: "Is that really bad if someone has an erection for more than four hours?" So, I really feel bad for you, Jessa, that outside forces cause you to have to explain the facts of life before you are ready to do that. By the same token, how do you explain to your kids the reason that people like Concerned Mama have such a problem with homosexuality? Kids learn from their parents that homosexual behavior is bad, but I would hazard to guess no one ever had a good reason why it's bad....other than some passage in the Bible.....
Gays don't have a problem with things of a sexual nature being displayed in front of kids. After all, EVERYTHING is sexual to them.
As for why homos are not acceptable, well, the act of two men plugging each other in the hind-end is not only goofy but it's really gross. Someone needs to tell them they barking up the wrong tree...LOL
Your thoughts on two women?
Some things in our society are just unacceptable; like an adult having sex with minors. It's just sick and twisted. Get it?
Adults having sex with children is against the law in every state in this country.
So, if having sex with children were not against the law.......it would be okay with you??! I guess that's why they had to make the law.
Last time I looked, someone's sexual preference isn't.....Big Difference and a stupid comparison. It's not really a stupid comparison since it is obviously a sexual preference.
The point I was trying to make is it seems like when the topic of someone's sexual preference is brought up or discussed people like yourself conjour up images of......."the act of two men plugging each other in the hind-end". That's a quote from you. Isn't that what you guys do? I mean it's usually either anal or oral, isn't it?
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: No_mood wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: areyounotkidding me wrote: I really feel for parents today - my kids are now teenagers almost out OF high school, but when did the sexual conversation become such an accepted thing? The Viagra commercials, KY Jelly commercials......I can just imagine my youngest asking the question if these commercials would have been on: "Is that really bad if someone has an erection for more than four hours?" So, I really feel bad for you, Jessa, that outside forces cause you to have to explain the facts of life before you are ready to do that. By the same token, how do you explain to your kids the reason that people like Concerned Mama have such a problem with homosexuality? Kids learn from their parents that homosexual behavior is bad, but I would hazard to guess no one ever had a good reason why it's bad....other than some passage in the Bible.....
Gays don't have a problem with things of a sexual nature being displayed in front of kids. After all, EVERYTHING is sexual to them.
As for why homos are not acceptable, well, the act of two men plugging each other in the hind-end is not only goofy but it's really gross. Someone needs to tell them they barking up the wrong tree...LOL
Your thoughts on two women?
Some things in our society are just unacceptable; like an adult having sex with minors. It's just sick and twisted. Get it?
Adults having sex with children is against the law in every state in this country. Last time I looked, someone's sexual preference isn't.....Big Difference and a stupid comparison.
The point I was trying to make is it seems like when the topic of someone's sexual preference is brought up or discussed people like yourself conjour up images of......."the act of two men plugging each other in the hind-end". That's a quote from you.
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No_mood wrote: AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: areyounotkidding me wrote: I really feel for parents today - my kids are now teenagers almost out OF high school, but when did the sexual conversation become such an accepted thing? The Viagra commercials, KY Jelly commercials......I can just imagine my youngest asking the question if these commercials would have been on: "Is that really bad if someone has an erection for more than four hours?" So, I really feel bad for you, Jessa, that outside forces cause you to have to explain the facts of life before you are ready to do that. By the same token, how do you explain to your kids the reason that people like Concerned Mama have such a problem with homosexuality? Kids learn from their parents that homosexual behavior is bad, but I would hazard to guess no one ever had a good reason why it's bad....other than some passage in the Bible.....
Gays don't have a problem with things of a sexual nature being displayed in front of kids. After all, EVERYTHING is sexual to them.
As for why homos are not acceptable, well, the act of two men plugging each other in the hind-end is not only goofy but it's really gross. Someone needs to tell them they barking up the wrong tree...LOL
Your thoughts on two women?
Well, there's just something missing between 2 women, now isn't there...LOL. Except for in pornos, all the lesbians you ever see in real life are butch. I mean, you have 2 women, both looking like men, using a sex toy that looks like a male member??! What the....? Doesn't make any sense. It's the same with 2 guys who act like women and the only thing missing is a proper place to put their stiffy.
They need to realize that there is a real problem with their way of thinking. Obviously they need to be told this.
It's natural for animals of the opposite sex to engage in sexual activity. That's how it works. Some things in our society are just unacceptable; like an adult having sex with minors. It's just sick and twisted. Get it?
There. Did I give you enough rope to try and hang me, NoMood/areyouNOTkiddingme?...LOL
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| Ignorance isn't always bliss.....Okay Ms. Gruntz, expect your evil twin to be making an appearance.......Grenolia is making the trek now to see the long-lost twin sister..... Last edited on Tue Apr 7th, 2009 02:02 pm by
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: areyounotkidding me wrote: I really feel for parents today - my kids are now teenagers almost out OF high school, but when did the sexual conversation become such an accepted thing? The Viagra commercials, KY Jelly commercials......I can just imagine my youngest asking the question if these commercials would have been on: "Is that really bad if someone has an erection for more than four hours?" So, I really feel bad for you, Jessa, that outside forces cause you to have to explain the facts of life before you are ready to do that. By the same token, how do you explain to your kids the reason that people like Concerned Mama have such a problem with homosexuality? Kids learn from their parents that homosexual behavior is bad, but I would hazard to guess no one ever had a good reason why it's bad....other than some passage in the Bible.....
Gays don't have a problem with things of a sexual nature being displayed in front of kids. After all, EVERYTHING is sexual to them.
As for why homos are not acceptable, well, the act of two men plugging each other in the hind-end is not only goofy but it's really gross. Someone needs to tell them they barking up the wrong tree...LOL
Your thoughts on two women?
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areyounotkidding me wrote: Jessa wrote: Here is a question for you? At what age 5-14 do you start talking to your kids about sex? This is my question to you because I had to sit and explain homosexuality to my young son because of this whole situation being on the news, in the papers, then side talk amongst older kids on the bus, with a trickle down effect on multitudes of people.
I really feel for parents today - my kids are now teenagers almost out OF high school, but when did the sexual conversation become such an accepted thing? The Viagra commercials, KY Jelly commercials......I can just imagine my youngest asking the question if these commercials would have been on: "Is that really bad if someone has an erection for more than four hours?" So, I really feel bad for you, Jessa, that outside forces cause you to have to explain the facts of life before you are ready to do that. By the same token, how do you explain to your kids the reason that people like Concerned Mama have such a problem with homosexuality? Kids learn from their parents that homosexual behavior is bad, but I would hazard to guess no one ever had a good reason why it's bad....other than some passage in the Bible.....
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areyounotkidding me wrote: I really feel for parents today - my kids are now teenagers almost out OF high school, but when did the sexual conversation become such an accepted thing? The Viagra commercials, KY Jelly commercials......I can just imagine my youngest asking the question if these commercials would have been on: "Is that really bad if someone has an erection for more than four hours?" So, I really feel bad for you, Jessa, that outside forces cause you to have to explain the facts of life before you are ready to do that. By the same token, how do you explain to your kids the reason that people like Concerned Mama have such a problem with homosexuality? Kids learn from their parents that homosexual behavior is bad, but I would hazard to guess no one ever had a good reason why it's bad....other than some passage in the Bible.....
Gays don't have a problem with things of a sexual nature being displayed in front of kids. After all, EVERYTHING is sexual to them.
As for why homos are not acceptable, well, the act of two men plugging each other in the hind-end is not only goofy but it's really gross. Someone needs to tell them they barking up the wrong tree...LOL
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Brandi wrote: AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amen to what? It helps to "quote" the thing you're responding to.
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| I totally agree. The entire staff at Parkridge are the most dedicated educators I have ever been around !! They dont deserve this kind of publicity.
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| This is so ridiculous that because of some mom helping her son/daughter take a stand, we have to explain to our younger children about Gay's. Its insane !! Keep your sexuality at your own home. I don't want my kids to have to deal with this at such a young age. It's ridiculous ! This is what's wrong with America today !!
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Only one of the many ramifications of this "Gay pride denied" situation has brought forth to a multitude of people. The information trickles down from the 8th grade to the lower grades in a K-8th school. That is just how it is. Information and stories go like wildfire. So why we ask does it say in the rules of the school handbook no sexually explicit language or innuendos? Hmm? We can only wonder! My sarcastic side gets a little out of control sometimes.
It is to keep this kind of conversations and this kind of discussions out of schools and better to be had at home with moms and dads where it should be... If the wrist band was just a rainbow with no wording then there probably would have been no controversy or questions from my son. And then in turn no need for deep quick thought from me on "how" to explain it to him in verbiage he can understand in his little guy brain. Thanks for the empathy! But can I say... It all turned out wonderfully in that he understands that it is just that kiddos way to express himself! He really needed no more explanation for now. Kids amaze me sometimes...
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Jessa, I know exactly how you felt about having to explain to your young son about homosexuality. I remember having to sit my 4th grade daughter down and explain "oral sex" thanks to our fabulous President, Clinton. It's a crime what these young kids are exposed to at such an early age. And the commercials about Viagra & K-Y make ME uncomfortable! Some things just don't need to be on TV, but that's the culture we have now.
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Jessa wrote: Here is a question for you? At what age 5-14 do you start talking to your kids about sex? This is my question to you because I had to sit and explain homosexuality to my young son because of this whole situation being on the news, in the papers, then side talk amongst older kids on the bus, with a trickle down effect on multitudes of people.
I really feel for parents today - my kids are now teenagers almost out OF high school, but when did the sexual conversation become such an accepted thing? The Viagra commercials, KY Jelly commercials......I can just imagine my youngest asking the question if these commercials would have been on: "Is that really bad if someone has an erection for more than four hours?" So, I really feel bad for you, Jessa, that outside forces cause you to have to explain the facts of life before you are ready to do that. By the same token, how do you explain to your kids the reason that people like Concerned Mama have such a problem with homosexuality? Kids learn from their parents that homosexual behavior is bad, but I would hazard to guess no one ever had a good reason why it's bad....other than some passage in the Bible.....Last edited on Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 08:16 am by
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areyounotkidding me wrote:
Actually, Jessa, what the problem is in today's society is that we have people amongst us who will discriminate against a whole class of people based on their sexual preferences......
And, sad to say, the sexuality issue was exactly the issue in this .....IN MY HUMBLE AND USUALLY CORRECT OPINION....
I agree! People do discriminate against a whole class' of people all the time.. You are exactly right! Absolutely! It is a horrible, sad, terrible thing. I get angry by peoples intolerance often. I sincerely wish it were not this way. Sadly to say this is the world you and I live in and have to work around it all the time. However, I do NOT agree with you that "the boys" sexuality was the issue that was being address in the original discussion. It was in MY opinion that it was made "in to" that discussion by the mother of the boy, the ACLU, and a bunch of people screaming he shouldn't wear "gay stuff to school" which others screamed censorship, rights violations and so on. Exactly the problem but not the topic.
Although it could very well be controversial in addressing these what is your sexual preference issues in an Elementary school setting. Great, one more way to divide people. Here is a question for you? At what age 5-14 do you start talking to your kids about sex? This is my question to you because I had to sit and explain homosexuality to my young son because of this whole situation being on the news, in the papers, then side talk amongst older kids on the bus, with a trickle down effect on multitudes of people.
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AREYOUKIDDING ME wrote: areyounotkidding me wrote: Yeah I bet the homosexuals of this world would disagree that you're all about love, forgiveness and hope.......
We're a little touchy about gay issues and in No Mood for discussion....LOL You best use the name wisely, Esther. I have a reputation to uphold! Otherwise, I may have to bring out your evil twin, Grenolia Gruntz.........
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Jessa wrote: Sad that it has become a sexuality issue and that is not really the issue. But then again looking at the whole situation that is exactly the problem with society today.
Actually, Jessa, what the problem is in today's society is that we have people amongst us who will discriminate against a whole class of people based on their sexual preferences......
And, sad to say, the sexuality issue was exactly the issue in this .....IN MY HUMBLE AND USUALLY CORRECT OPINION....
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Posted: Mon Mar 30th, 2009 05:04 pm |
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This whole topic has spun in to the acceptance of sexuality choice. Wow! It happened so fast that my head is now spinning. I was hoping that the people in this discussion could keep it mature with respect to others opinions and views. Obviously not so. This has now become a forum for any persons particular stance on homosexuality or sexuality period and then slamming them for their views. Or should I say attacking others in the assumption that you have read others views and come to your own conclusion of that persons stance on the topic. Sad that it has become a sexuality issue and that is not really the issue. But then again looking at the whole situation that is exactly the problem with society today.
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Posted: Sun Mar 29th, 2009 06:26 pm |
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areyounotkidding me wrote: Yeah I bet the homosexuals of this world would disagree that you're all about love, forgiveness and hope.......
We're a little touchy about gay issues and in No Mood for discussion....LOL
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Posted: Sat Mar 28th, 2009 04:29 pm |
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I have made my point - one of love, forgiveness and hope. Take it or leave it.
As for this forum - if you are going to continue putting words in my mouth so you have something to holler about then my role in the conversation is superfluous.
Over and out . . .
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Concerned Mama wrote: First, once again, the issue is one of rules. People shouldn't expect to be above them just because they're gay. That's pretty straightforward (unless you think traffic regulations and state law shouldn't apply to homosexuals either). Really Mama, is that really what it is? Just about rules??? First, let's look at the Rainbows are Gay writing on the wristband. Is that really the black and whte issue as you seem to paint it? What does that phrase "Rainbows are Gay" mean to you? What perverted images does this stir up in that little mind of yours? Second, if this is just about rules, why have you brought up in just about every paragraph you've written some statement about homosexuality???? Homosexuality is not the issue here folks, let's have a frank discussion about the rules at Parkridge, but, by the way, all homosexuals are sinners and will probably burn in hell, but anyway, let's keep the discussion on the rules at Parkridge Elementary. Third, obviously PUSD disagrees with your black and white interpretation of the rules, because it seems the boy is still wearing the wristband. Finally, would you be in such a tizzy if this were a Mormon girl who had the expression described earlier regarding looking for a Mormon BOY. You're saying the gay issue isn't the issue, so you would have been equally upset by this Mormon girl?
Second, if you would read my posts in an attempt to understand them, you will find that I am neither beating on Natali, nor am I a homophobe. I think given your misrepresentation of my stance it takes a lot of nerve for you to call ME narrow-minded. Your attacks don't hurt my feelings and they don't change my thinking either. They have only served to make this a hostile environment which is unfortunate for everyone who would like to have a mature discussion about the issue at hand. Actually, I have read your posts and as described earlier, it made me nauseous, but I did manage to hold down my dinner and read every post you wrote. First, there is no doubt that you are a homophobe to the nth degree and second, you were absolutely beating on this parent. It is a bit amusing how homophobes like you are so high and mighty until one of your sons or daughters announces he is gay. So Aptly Named Dick Chaney has a gay daughter who had a child with her lesbian partner. It's kind of ironic that the most conservative person on earth has a gay daughter. I guess it is very easy to cast stones at this parent, but I know I would be very protective of my child when there are so many people out there like you who will offer advice how they need to cleanse themselves from this terrible affliction. You are a wolf in sheep's clothing. You are just a slicker electrichman. I would bet my house that you probably agree with every silly thing this idiot had to offer. And while we're at this, No Mood posed a great question: Do you think these people actually chose to be gay when there are so many people out there like you who are trying to bring them down??? And what is it about homosexuality that threatens you so? I've never gotten a response from anyone I've asked this. It's always the copout well the Bible says so.....Do you think if a lesbian moves in next door that they go on recruiting trips and will turn your kids gay or just what is the problem with the whole thing?
Third, I don't even know what "Acorn" is supposed to mean. Is that your way of calling me a nut job? It seems like basic common sense that you can't come out slinging unfounded accusations and calling names if the premise of your argument is tolerance. You are FOR tolerance or you are AGAINST Christians, one or the other. Make a decision and own it.
I believe in a God who loves everyone regardless of who they are or what they do. I believe the Bible gives us Truth to work from. I also believe in right and wrong. I won't apologize for any of my views but I do apologize if my approach or if the approach of someone else who shares them views has offended you.
You figured out my intention of calling you an acorn. Very GOOD...These are not unfounded accusations, I read your posts, remember. Let's see......homosexual camps (is that like training camp in football, it gets the gays ready for the regular season),Satan, sinfulness, the devil, Communists, anarchy, etc. etc. - let me be clear, you are definitely a nut and I thank you for getting out of the teaching profession after only three years. I love this sentence: You are FOR tolerance or you are AGAINST Christians, one or the other. Can I just be for tolerance and also AGAINST nuts like you? Were you aware that there many more religions in this world beside Christianity? Are you saying Christians are better people than people who believe in other gods or don't believe in any god or just what are you saying? Your approach wasn't the problem, it is your myopic views.
If we can discuss our differences, that would be great. If you're going to war against people who don't see things the way you do, count me out.
I guess my basic difference with you is I think you're a nut. If that's warring against you, count me as a warrior..... BTW, did you notice I tried to post in the colors of the rainbow. Just for you, baby........Last edited on Sat Mar 28th, 2009 04:06 pm by
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First, once again, the issue is one of rules. People shouldn't expect to be above them just because they're gay. That's pretty straightforward (unless you think traffic regulations and state law shouldn't apply to homosexuals either).
Second, if you would read my posts in an attempt to understand them, you will find that I am neither beating on Natali, nor am I a homophobe. I think given your misrepresentation of my stance it takes a lot of nerve for you to call ME narrow-minded. Your attacks don't hurt my feelings and they don't change my thinking either. They have only served to make this a hostile environment which is unfortunate for everyone who would like to have a mature discussion about the issue at hand.
Third, I don't even know what "Acorn" is supposed to mean. Is that your way of calling me a nut job? It seems like basic common sense that you can't come out slinging unfounded accusations and calling names if the premise of your argument is tolerance. You are FOR tolerance or you are AGAINST Christians, one or the other. Make a decision and own it.
I believe in a God who loves everyone regardless of who they are or what they do. I believe the Bible gives us Truth to work from. I also believe in right and wrong. I won't apologize for any of my views but I do apologize if my approach or if the approach of someone else who shares them views has offended you.
If we can discuss our differences, that would be great. If you're going to war against people who don't see things the way you do, count me out.
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“I want people to be aware that times are changing and we're standing up for our rights,” Natali said. “I’ve always told him to be yourself and if they don’t like you for who you are, then be yourself and take it as it comes.”
I rather like what this mother had to say. If I had a gay child, I think that would be my attitude also.....Acorns like Mama are beating on her, but she just might have taught her son how to withstand the intense pressure he must face on a day to day basis......and why does he face intense pressure? Because he is different than what these homophobes deem is normal....
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Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 10:18 pm |
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No Mood, I was hoping you would chime in here. Well said and right on the money.....
Why would anyone choose to be gay when there are people out there like you? CAN YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION MAMA????
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Posted: Fri Mar 27th, 2009 10:15 pm |
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No_mood wrote: electrichman wrote: There is a time and place for self expression of this manner and doing so in a public school is not the place. This is not, in my opinion, a freedom of speech issue or a freedom of expression issue. This is a policy issue as directed and mandated by the PUSD. I have to draw the line when someone tries to spin it into a religious / moral issue.
I understand your frustration with the points Electrichman was attempting to make. No matter what our personal religious or non religious views are on the fact that this is a "policy issue" and further more .... This poor kid has had all this negative attention thanks to his Mom calling the ACLU with non-acurate accusations. it has now come to a good ending... There is NOTHING to fight up against from his side. His civil rights were not violated. So chalk one up to the PUSD they were not in violation or even at fault. I hope and pray that this situation comes to a quiet cease for the good of his family, our schools, and community.
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electrichman wrote: Denial to gay pride is a good thing.I am disgusted with people and organizations,try to force their corrupted lifestyles down my throat. Good is Good ,and bad is bad,and so is sin,which is bad! If you think for a second, that just because you make a choice to live continuously in sin,and cry for your precious rights, that i should have sympathy for your wrong thinking,you have another thing coming.
Your disgusting lifestyles ,and you know,your bad living isn't right,you feel you should have equal rights: Equal rights ,yes,but not equal right to shove your wrong lifestyles down our throats.
Sorry, but your excuses for living that way is a choice.This is a morality issue! It has nothing to do with your personal rights as a sinner.You will be treated as a person by me,any time.And i will treat you with respect.But i will not stand for gays thinking they are being victimized by society.
Everyone has this little inner voice inside of them which knows ,right from wrong.And those who refuse to listen will ultimatley pay the price for their rebellion of GOD!
So get ready to live an eternity gnashing your teeth, in the depths of hell!
Isn't fantastic that satan has a hold on your soul,and you don't even know it!
And just think tomorrow,he's even going to fill your head up with little intricate lies ,that sound good,and make you fell good,and might sound ok.But be not decieved people>
The devil is real,and he's trying to destroy all of us, and our great country!
People need to wake up,grow up,and start making true moral decisions for this country of ours.Quit hiding from your responsibilities,to do the right thing! Because if you have a choice to do someting right,and you don't;you also will pay the price for not doing the right thing.
GOD loves everyone the same;but he does not stand for stupidity,I'm sure!!!!!!!!
After reading this thread, I cannot help but ask electrichman for some clarifications:
"I am disgusted with people and organizations,try to force their corrupted lifestyles down my throat." That makes two of us! I am so sick of the holier than thou bible pushers who try and force their beliefs, not based on any facts, down our throats. What about tolerance ? Oh that's right the bible doesn't speak or mention the word tolerance. That in itself is suspect and a reason to question the motives of the bible pusher's and organized religion.
- "Your disgusting lifestyles ,and you know,your bad living isn't right,you feel you should have equal rights: Equal rights ,yes,but not equal right to shove your wrong lifestyles down our throats." What is your fixation with things being shoved down your throat? What about the opening statement of the Declaration of Independence which states "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." If you read carefully it states the words "their creator", not yours, but their own. Who are you to say that your beliefs are any better then the next persons?
- "Sorry, but your excuses for living that way is a choice.This is a morality issue! It has nothing to do with your personal rights as a sinner.You will be treated as a person by me,any time.And i will treat you with respect.But i will not stand for gays thinking they are being victimized by society." Do you really think that this 14 year old child chooses to be gay over the possibility that he was born this way? Do you really think he chooses to be ridiculed and discriminated against at such a young age? Why would anyone choose to be gay when there are people out there like you? People that refuse to respect their fellow man regardless of sexual orientation. This is not a morality issue, you want to make it a morality issue. This isn't a religious issue either, you want to make it about religion so you can get your agenda out there. How does homosexuality affect you from living the life you want?
- "Everyone has this little inner voice inside of them which knows ,right from wrong.And those who refuse to listen will ultimatley pay the price for their rebellion of GOD!" You mean people like Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker and Ted Haggard? Just to name a few.
- "GOD loves everyone the same;but he does not stand for stupidity,I'm sure!!!!!!!!" As long as they share the same beliefs as you. This last sentence of yours drives home my point that you are as hypocritical as the rest. You spew hate and venom and then end your tirade with "god loves everyone the same"
There is a time and place for self expression of this manner and doing so in a public school is not the place. This is not, in my opinion, a freedom of speech issue or a freedom of expression issue. This is a policy issue as directed and mandated by the PUSD. I have to draw the line when someone tries to spin it into a religious / moral issue.
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