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Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 05:37 pm |
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Posted: Tue Apr 14th, 2009 08:42 pm |
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If Debbie Lesko truly wanted to support education and our state, she would get behind the suggestions outlined in the link below. Call her and let her know that she needs to put her money where her mouth is.
http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com
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Posted: Mon Apr 13th, 2009 06:44 am |
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| Kind of deep and esoteric kind of joke, huh Paul?
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Posted: Sun Apr 12th, 2009 09:29 pm |
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cheerleaderforclosers wrote: Huh???
I know what Hawk's talking about. Lesko knows too. A bit of a non sequitur but funny nonetheless.
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 03:58 pm |
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Unhappy, I found your posts very thought provoking. I agree that we all have to bite the bullet, but I prefer not to do so if there are revenue streams that can be tapped. In the case of education, there are three that direct dollars directly to the schools, but our local legislators, including Debbie Lesko, refuse to open them. Until Lesko and her ilk begin to consider ALL options, then letters like hers are just another example of how our legislators serve themselves first, and their constituents second, if at all.
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Whew--- I was really worried that I'd get all sorts of grief for posting my previous comments, but I appreciate the few who have responded and who recognize that the current economic problems are affecting everyone--- not just teachers. And - believe me - it's not that I don't support or sympathize with the teachers, because I do (actions sometimes speak louder than words and I help in the classroom as much as possible, and as often as needed) I would definitely prefer to have more teachers, smaller student/teacher ratio, more specialized programs, more one-on-one time with students/teachers, etc, etc, etc, but that's just not an option right now. And, there are many people out here who, quite frankly, are getting tired of hearing the teachers complain, complain, complain (via their union leaders). We're all dealing with tough times, and it's time to work together for the best interests of the children (isn't that what this was all about in the first place?)
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 12:44 am |
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 12:44 am |
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I agree, and while I feel for the teachers, their families and their current and future students, layoffs are not just being foisted upon them while the rest of us are enjoying good times. Every industry and family (pretty much) has been affected by the economy. We're all (pretty much) watching our pennies, worried about our job and/or our spouse's job, how we would pay the mortgage without one or both jobs, etc. And it is true, most of us do not have unions and state-funded retirement and pensions. Of course I would rather my child be in a smaller classroom, just as I would rather not have to take unpaid days myself, which also affects my child. And I, too, went to a double session high school with my first hour class starting at 6:15 am when I had morning session, the years I had afternoon session, we went from something like noon to 5:30.
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Posted: Mon Apr 6th, 2009 12:35 am |
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Unhappy
Good, thoughtful post......
Although my feeling is this state never emphasized education, maybe the here and now dictates we all just need to bite the bullet.....it's easy for me to say just raise my taxes while I still have a job (for now), it's quite another for the many people like you who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own to say okay to something like that....
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Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 07:28 pm |
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Hey folks - the budget crisis is not only affecting teachers, but they are most certainly the most vocal and first to cry foul. I know I'm going out on a limb here, and most of you won't agree with me, but let's face reality. People are getting laid off everywhere and there's usually a pecking order. Those with least years "on the job" will be the first to go. I'm not saying it's fair. I'm just dealing with reality. For the past several years, the State of Arizona spent too much money and now we're left with a real mess. Just like Obama blames the previous administration for the federal economic woes, I guess the newly elected legislators and newly appointed governor could also point the finger to previous AZ governor, but finger pointing is not going to put money back in the classroom. Right now, there is no money. Budget cuts need to be made everywhere.
I am personally dealing with lay-off situation, but I don't have a huge union to support me so I just have to wallow in my own self-pity. However, since I am currently unemployed, I have volunteered to help at my kids' school. I have also purchased extra boxes of kleenex, pencils, and other supplies when they're on sale and dropped them off at the school, and have given the maximum amount in tax credits to help the schools. I think if we all do our small part - we can get through this together. I sympathize with the teachers who may not have contracts renewed (I really do feel their pain). When I was in elementary school (back in the dark ages), it was not uncommon at all for us to have 35 to 38 students in a class. It's not an ideal situation, but - guess what - I made it through just fine, and went on to high school (where we had to have double sessions due to over-crowding and no money to build new schools) and then went on to college, and even managed to get a Master's degree. I know the teachers would prefer to have smaller classes, but that's just not an option right now, and to blame the current legislators for having to make these very tough decisions is simply not fair.
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Posted: Sun Apr 5th, 2009 02:47 pm |
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| I agree Debbie. That is selfish. It's like asking tax payers to pay the bill when your kid's bike gets stolen.
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 04:35 am |
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Ms. Lesko
We are 49th or 50th in education funding. Without good schools in our state, we won't have the educated workers that businesses need that want to move here and generate revenues. Without these additional revenues, they don't pay taxes that pay for the programs you listed. We need some people in the legislature who will stand up and make education a priority no matter what. I would gladly pay a sales tax or gasoline tax to accomplish this. But, you and your Republican friends won't even consider a tax increase to do this. It makes no sense to me.
Get some backbone, Ms. Lesko. These are extraordinary times. Show that you are committed to education and go against the tide.......
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Posted: Thu Apr 2nd, 2009 08:57 pm |
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Just another letter in a series with useless, bigoted and inaccurate republican talking points.
It is a disgrace that this coward is a state legislator.
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Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2009 08:29 pm |
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Editor's note: Copied below is a Guest Commentary submitted to the Peoria Independent. You can post your opinions by clicking on "Reply."
By Debbie Lesko
I have three children in public schools. One in college, one in high school, and one in elementary school, so quality education is important to me.
But when mobs of teacher union officials and union-member teachers show up at the State Capitol protesting, screaming, and demanding that their programs not be cut, it leaves me with the impression that they are being selfish at the expense of the disabled, abused, and other Arizonans struggling in need.
I have met with various teacher union and student association groups and have carefully explained that our state is facing a $3 billion shortfall, that education accounts for over half of all our state spending, and that asking for no cuts to education, is simply not reasonable and not fair to other sectors of our population in need.
I have explained that as a percentage of their total funding kindergarten through 12th-grade education was cut by only 2.3 percent in the fiscal year 2009 budget fix and that was after they were given their annual 2 percent inflationary increase.
I have showed them stacks of post cards, letters and e-mails I have received from the parents of disabled children, from domestic and aged violence victim advocates, from veteran groups, from parents with sick children, all in fear that the budget cuts will cause deaths, increased violence, and loss of programs for those really in need. As a state legislator, I have a responsibility to make sure that all of our citizens be treated fairly even if their lobbying group isn’t as big and powerful.
I will not be intimidated by a national teacher union official from Washington D.C. yelling to the crowd that she "loves power."
As a mother of three children in public schools, education is very important to me, but let’s be fair and equitable about our cuts and realize that there is more than one group in need.
We are going through some tough times right now and sacrifices will have to made by all, but I believe that the problem can be resolved if we work together.
Editor’s note: Debbie Lesko is the representative for District 9 in the Arizona Legislature. Call 602-926-5413 or e-mail dlesko@azleg.gov.
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