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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 01:05 am |
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It's pretty clear that transferring over $20 million to your political supporters has plenty more substance and meat to it than the trivial Nobel lease, which you continue to wet your pants over.
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| You and AnneR are quite a dynamic duo. Perhaps Annie would like to start the scoreboard again. It's what she excels at doing
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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 12:46 am |
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Apache Mom wrote: The question cuts to the chase. Why won't you answer it?
Because it's such a silly question without substance or meat.....
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| Since when did you ever ask a question worth answering???
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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 12:44 am |
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The question cuts to the chase. Why won't you answer it?
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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 12:43 am |
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That's what I thought. It's yet another question you wish to avoid. But, because it's important, I'll ask it again:
Since when did funneling more than $20 million of taxpayer dollars to your political supporters become "trivial?"
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| AnneR This is where the big kids play.
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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 12:35 am |
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Excuse me, but when did funneling more than $20 million of taxpayer dollars to your political supporters become "trivial."
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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 12:33 am |
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That is so weak. You aren't even glib anymore.
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areyounotkidding me wrote: So what is the carnage here....PUSD Teacher, who just went completely went nuts which we all witnessed and Apache Mom, who is hearing voices in her head of Terry Goddard and that he is very interested in this PUSD matter....
Allrighteeeeeeeeeee......
To be fair.....
Apache Mom, who is hearing voices in her head of voices of employees inside Terry Goddard's office and these employees are very interested in this trivial pursuit....
Sorry about that....
Apache Mom - it's okay.....every one of those items are facts. I will stipulate that. You are free to keep posting them, of course, but they are all facts, yes....except that Diane Douglas ever served as treasure....she hasn't ever done that...I know that as a fact...
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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 12:22 am |
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You went nuts over $1.25 million, but you shrug off over $20 million? Just in case you missed it, $20 million is much, much more. Please tell me you have enough number sense to know that.
And, I didn't say I spoke with Terry Goddard, I said I spoke the the Attorney General's office. Just another example of how you like to lie.
And, as it turns out that when you line the pockets of your political supporters' with millions of dollars, the Attorney General's office finds facts like these very interesting:
Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign. Here's a link, and go to page 6. While you're making your way there, count the number of non-district residents who also contributed to her campaign: http://156.42.40.50/CampFinDocs/pdf/2004_18891.pdf
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total amount the VSIT members donated.
Try as you might, you cannot minimize the story these facts tell. And the story is this: this trail proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Diane Douglas is a liar and corrupt and that she lined her supporters' pockets with millions of taxpayer dollars. Period.Last edited on Thu Apr 30th, 2009 12:28 am by Apache Mom
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Posted: Thu Apr 30th, 2009 12:18 am |
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So what is the carnage here....PUSD Teacher, who just went completely went nuts which we all witnessed and Apache Mom, who is hearing voices in her head of Terry Goddard and that he is very interested in this PUSD matter....
Allrighteeeeeeeeeee......
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This is so far out there - even for you....I used to think you were halfway intelligent - devious and a liar- but intelligent
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And your pathetic little dance continues, only now with all of your little personalities are going apoplectic.
Turns out that when you line the pockets of your political supporters' with millions of dollars, the Attorney General's office finds facts like these very interesting:
Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign. Here's a link, and go to page 6. While you're making your way there, count the number of non-district residents who also contributed to her campaign: http://156.42.40.50/CampFinDocs/pdf/2004_18891.pdf
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total amount the VSIT members donated.
Try as you might, you cannot minimize the story these facts tell. And the story is this: this trail proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Diane Douglas is a liar and corrupt and that she herr supporters' pockets with millions of taxpayer dollars. Period.
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And your pathetic little dance continues, only now with all of your little personalities are going apoplectic.
Turns out that when you line the pockets of your political supporters' with millions of dollars, the Attorney General's office finds facts like these very interesting:
Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign. Here's a link, and go to page 6. While you're making your way there, count the number of non-district residents who also contributed to her campaign: http://156.42.40.50/CampFinDocs/pdf/2004_18891.pdf
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total amount the VSIT members donated.
Try as you might, you cannot minimize the story these facts tell. And the story is this: this trail proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Diane Douglas is a liar and corrupt and that she herr supporters' pockets with millions of taxpayer dollars. Period.
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areyounotkidding me wrote: I will kiss Apache Mom's a## on Main Street. How's that?
Not good enough.
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Who did you speak to at the AG's office? What did they tell you you had to do? What phone number did you call?
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| You are delusional Apache Mom, you really are....and you talked to the AG office kind of like you did Mr. Highlen????????
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High School Mom wrote: Do not even try to pull this one over on us, Apache Mom. We all know the AG's office has better things to do than subscribe to your nonsensical witch hunt. Get over it. Diane Douglas won. Period. And your pals didn't even have the courage to challenge her in the election. So - it's over, and you may as well deal with it, and if you really want to make a difference, or make some changes, then why don't YOU get off the computer and start campaigning?
I won't be holding my breath for Terry and his team to start investigating Mrs. Douglas. It's simply not worth their time and whether you want to believe it or not, everything she has done has been above board and in accordance with the law. Of course - you will disagree (why should we be surprised?) but the truth is the truth, and you continue to spew hatred and lies.
Unless you're Diane, how do you know everything she did "was above board and in accordance with the law?" You don't, do you?
You may not think the Attorney General is interested, but when you're talking lining your supporters' pockets with over $20 million, they get very interested.
What will you do when you see Diane doing the "perp walk?"
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Do not even try to pull this one over on us, Apache Mom. We all know the AG's office has better things to do than subscribe to your nonsensical witch hunt. Get over it. Diane Douglas won. Period. And your pals didn't even have the courage to challenge her in the election. So - it's over, and you may as well deal with it, and if you really want to make a difference, or make some changes, then why don't YOU get off the computer and start campaigning?
I won't be holding my breath for Terry and his team to start investigating Mrs. Douglas. It's simply not worth their time and whether you want to believe it or not, everything she has done has been above board and in accordance with the law. Of course - you will disagree (why should we be surprised?) but the truth is the truth, and you continue to spew hatred and lies.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 10:13 pm |
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I called the Attorney General's office yesterday. They're very interested.
Tell me, what will you do when Diane Douglas is carted off the jail?
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Okay Apache Mommy, keep telling yourself this is going to go anywhere. You get up there and tell this whole story and see how far it goes.
Good luck because you are going to need it, Honey Pie
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And your pathetic little dance continues.
But your post is good for something. It reveals that you are not just a liar and coward, but that you can't count.
These are third-party contributions, and all are supposed to be declared as a conflict of interest.
Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign. Here's a link, and go to page 6. While you're making your way there, count the number of non-district residents who also contributed to her campaign: http://156.42.40.50/CampFinDocs/pdf/2004_18891.pdf
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total amount the VSIT members donated.
Try as you might, you cannot minimize the story these facts tell. And the story is this: Diane Douglas lined her supporters' pockets with millions from the school district. Period.
This trail proves beyond a reasonable doubt that Diane Douglas is a liar and corrupt. You can continue to waste your time trying to defend the indefensible, or try (and fail) to make Douglas look like a decent person when she is not. It really doesn't matter, because in the end you are nothing more than a hack for Diane Douglas, and no one believes a word you say.
One more thing, if you're going to quote me, quote the whole post so that it is seen in its entire context.
A lie of omission is still a lie.
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Apache Mom wrote:
You would rather be right than to admit that Diane Douglas just handed over millions of taxpayer dollars to her political supporters, which is exactly what she did:
Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign. Here's a link, and go to page 6. While you're making your way there, count the number of non-district residents who also contributed to her campaign: http://156.42.40.50/CampFinDocs/pdf/2004_18891.pdf
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total amount the VSIT members donated.
You keep posting these facts Apache Mom and I am not contesting that these are facts. But, my reaction still is, So what???? It is a looooooooong leap of logic for you to charge what you are charging, it is just well......pathetic and pathetic these minions buy into this. I kept wondering what PUSD was talking about with this fourth-party contributions. This is more like forty-fourth party. So silly and petty!!!
Rocky Arnold
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Apache Mom wrote: The only liar on this board is you, and everyone knows it. The statement you posted from me is accurate, and did come from Mr. Highlen. My bet is that you never bothered to ask him about this because this fact didn't fit well into the story you made up. And, as you have posted before, Mr. Highlen's answer used the word "likely." That's not exactly definitive, is it "Rocky"? So, really, who's the liar here?
As it was with PUSD Teacher, this is all about credibility. If you lie about this and you did, you'll lie about anything.
So, when you say the statement posted from you is accurate, this is what you said:
And, to answer another of your inane questions: yes, PUSD is self-insured, but like all self-insured agencies carries and pays for liablity insurance from an independent provider. The very reason for carrying this insurance is, in fact, to pay off law suits.
This information comes straight from the district administrator in charge of insurance.
Let's be clear here Apache Mom, so what you're saying is that yes, an insurance company will be paying this $1.25 million and you talked to Mr. Highlen and he indicated that is true???????
That's what you're saying????
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The only liar on this board is you, and everyone knows it. The statement you posted from me is accurate, and did come from Mr. Highlen. My bet is that you never bothered to ask him about this because this fact didn't fit well into the story you made up. And, as you have posted before, Mr. Highlen's answer used the word "likely." That's not exactly definitive, is it "Rocky"? So, really, who's the liar here?
The only danger presented on this board comes from you, as you continue to skirt the issue at hand, and refuse to recognize facts. You would rather be right than to admit that Diane Douglas just handed over millions of taxpayer dollars to her political supporters, which is exactly what she did:
Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign. Here's a link, and go to page 6. While you're making your way there, count the number of non-district residents who also contributed to her campaign: http://156.42.40.50/CampFinDocs/pdf/2004_18891.pdf
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total amount the VSIT members donated.
You dance around these facts in your posts, but will never address them because you know that your best efforts to minimize them will fail. Unlike you most people can see the forest for the trees and we know that Diane Douglas is a liar and corrupt. You know it too, but you have spent so much time trying to defend the indefensible that you're either too stubborn or stupid to know when to stop. And in the end that's what really angers you. All the time and effort you expended in an attempt to spin the truth was a waste of time . . . time you took away from you family that you'll never get back. You tried make Douglas look like a decent person, but in the end you failed because she isn't. And you say we're dangerous.
Here's one more fact that you can't escape: you're nothing but a hack for Diane Douglas, and everyone who reads these boards knows it.
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| Actually, I think Raeder was a gutless politician and a puppet for Jack Erb and Galbraith just did anything Raeder did.
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aykmn - loved your statement to Apache mom: "You are a meanspirited, vindictive individual and would find fault with Douglas if she announced tomorrow she found the cure for cancer." Kind of how you feel about Raeder and Galbraith, isn't it!?
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Apache Mom wrote: Unlike you most people can see the forest for the trees and know that Diane Douglas is a liar and corrupt.
Oh, I get it. We're supposed to take you at your word. Again, do you have any proof? The answer is, no, you don't. You're a liar, and we all know it.
And, to answer another of your inane questions: yes, PUSD is self-insured, but like all self-insured agencies carries and pays for liablity insurance from an independent provider. The very reason for carrying this insurance is, in fact, to pay off law suits.
This information comes straight from the district administrator in charge of insurance.
I suggest in the future you pick up a phone and gather a little information before making a fool of yourself again.
I'd comment on your credibility, but you can't comment on something that doesn't exist.
Apache Mom
I think those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. I have actually called you on three baldfaced lies on this forum. This one above is your best, but I will be glad to dig out the other two if requested to do so. I kind of think when one is caught like this, anything you say should be seriously questioned. You are very dangerous, a very dangerous individual. You try very hard to come across as the wonderful individual who does so many wonderful things for the district. It's only for the kids of our district - it makes me throw up. You are a meanspirited, vindictive individual and would find fault with Douglas if she announced tomorrow she found the cure for cancer.
By the way, I have voted for every bond override since we moved here in 1984. The last one passed by the slimmest of margins, as I recall. I don't recall who the district appointed to handle the public opinion for this override  , but perhaps they should be very careful this time who they appoint because any override is going to have trouble if you all continue causing unneeeded negative publicity. Count on it....
Perhaps you will again state: It's only for the kids of our district......
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| It's called spin, and it is the only thing aynkm is capable of doing, especially since the facts don't fit his fantasy.
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| Don't you just love the rhetoric from aynkm? You and your ilk (DD, KK, RM) did your nasty little number for over two years to get the board changed and where it is today. You spewed things you couldn't prove and the fact is you didn't have to because one one called you on it. You can't stand it that finally a group of folks are going to reveal your nonsense for what it is: mud slinging, diversion tactics, and double talk and finally force the issues and open discussion. You can name call, complain about typing errors, be unforgiving on any little misstep or fact that someone may write, but you cannot run and hide from the outrageous behavior that is now going on in the Peoria district. People didn't run for office because of the nastiness of DD, RM, KK and yes, you, whoever you are aynkm (and I'm almost certain you're one of these three). How dare you, you coward, insult anyone who would take the initiative to run for the board. Just because he didn't have the backing of a political party doesn't mean he didn't have the best interest of this district at heart, which is more than can be said for you and the three blind mice. So shout to the roof top all you want, we're here to finally add balance to your inane, or should I say insane, blogging!
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You would vote no regardless, because you are a coward.
You dance around the facts in your posts, but never really address them because you know that your best efforts to minimize them will fail. Unlike you most people can see the forest for the trees and know that Diane Douglas is a liar and corrupt. You know it too, but you have spent so much time trying to defend the indefensible that you're either too stubborn or stupid to know when to stop. And in the end that's what really angers you. All the time and effort you expended in an attempt to spin the truth was a waste of time that you'll never get back. You tried make Douglas look like a decent person, but in the end you failed because she isn't. And you say we're dangerous.
Here are the facts. You can continue to ignore them, but they won't go away. This is anyone needs to know that Diane Douglas just handed over millions of taxpayer dollars to her political supporters:
Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign.
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total the VSIT members donated.
Don't you think it's time for you to stop playing the fool for an ingrate like Diane Douglas?
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I was usually the only one to lead the comments on the closed campus issue also. Most people don't get on here and post; but if you look at the numbers who look in, someone is watching....
Here is an interest question for you whatever your name is:
If this little cult's opinion is so overwhelming, why was there not even one candidate in the last election to run for a seat that aligned with Erickson's writings. Not one - well you did have one puppet, but he didn't work out. And that was pathetic in its own right. The only candidate you could dredge up was this eighteen year old kid barely out of high school. Why is that? I'll tell you why....you are all are a fringe group who only make a bunch of noise. The majority of people in this district think you're a bunch of acorns - and the election numbers of the last two elections support that. You all are the Republican party of the Peoria School District in that you are out of step with the electorate. People are tired of the controversy of lunch, Adam Maras, and this latest non-issue. You've become the whiny child in the public place who everybody wishes they could spank but the child just continues to whine. It's old.....and will affect the next bond override - PUSD? what a bunch of nuts. I vote no,Ethel
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Time to Act - Are you and Wet Willy planning the invasion as we speak. Is it kind of like the Closed Campus strategy?
Phase One: Give speech after speech at board meeting
Phase Two: Give speech after speech at board meeting
Phase three: Eventually go away and get a life.
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| Interest comment, aykmn, giving that you are the one ignoring all the facts. You are the only one trying to lead any one with your baseless comments and accusations. Mad because we see you for who and what you are??
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 02:59 am |
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watchdogwillie wrote: Shame on you for trying to derail the conversations.
No, Wet Willy, shame on all of you for being sheep and not looking at the lack of facts and jumping to conclusions just because a blogger leads you to water.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 02:59 am |
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| Diversion tactics again. I'm sure McCarthy would be proud of you aykmn!
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 02:43 am |
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watchdogwillie wrote: ; it is apparent that they have diverted district funds and work to republican friends;
What's apparent is Joe McCarthy would all be proud of you.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 02:36 am |
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Wet Willy - It was a rhetorical question. I could really care less who you are.....Me thinks Wet Willy is making himself appear much more important than he is.
And I could care less who Frankie is - he's just a blowhard anyway.....whoops bless me Father for I have sinned.....at least I occasionally learn something from Erickson, Frankie is just a blowhard....Act of Contrition
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 02:30 am |
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| Who are you, nothead? Why do you want to know who everyone else is why you remain anonymous? Why does it matter so much who Frank is? Or who I am for that matter. Why is it so important to you? You're the one that's so quick with the name calling and accusations and questions everyones motives. We're interested in your motives and you're beginning to smell like a rat too. People have presented any number of facts and information regarding Diane, Rick, and Kathy's apparent agendas; you present nothing to disprove any of it! It's okay for you to insinuate that Erb, Debi, Pati, and others were not transparent or above board or that the past board was "in his pocket", but you present nothing to support your claims. You throw out accusations wildly and freely and are so insulted if anyone dares question the three blind mice. Wow - you're the one with the double standards and you are mad as hell that someone is now revealing Diane, Rick and Kathy for what they are doing to this district. Shame on you for trying to derail the conversations. You are the one that people should be afraid of! Rick and Rick continue to be in violation of the public information request; it is apparent that they have diverted district funds and work to republican friends; and are supported by a board that doesn't even question these actions or even question them. Wasn't that what you complained about the previous board. How does the shoe fit now?
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 01:57 am |
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| Who are you anyway Wet Willy - you act like you're amassing the troops at the border and the invasion will start when you give the word........
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 01:55 am |
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And Wet Willy, you come on here like you have this inside information. There is no inside information. This is all you have and it truly is a joke!!!! I'm really quite disappointed.....there is nothing even to debate.
You people are truly dangerous. By the way surely, surly means Apache Mommy.....
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 01:52 am |
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Sorry, Apache Mommy, this is so weak, it's almost laughable.....
Unfortunately, we will probably have to put with the likes of PUSD Teacher giving speeches at board meetings.....this will eventually blow over just like closed campuses did. We'll just have to put up with whiney teachers and Apache Moms for a while.
Aren't you proud to have PUSD Teacher on your side of this issue, Apache Mom? Doesn't she represent PUSD's finest????
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 01:47 am |
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| An investigation should resolve any dispute to the facts and i think one would be in order and will surly be forthcoming if my info is correct.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 01:34 am |
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Dear Mr. Arnold (LIE -- that's not your name, coward),
Thank you for your questions. I appreciate the opportunity to address the blatant misinformation (LIE) which is being circulated. Hope you don’t mind if I answer both of your emails with one response! While I will gladly respond to your questions – I think it prudent to keep my comments and thoughts about the blog posting from the person identifying him/herself as “PUSD Teacher” to myself (LIE -- she knows who I am).
United Health Care is a nationwide network; meaning any employee needing medical care while out of state on vacation or a covered dependent (i.e. child attending school out of state) can be covered by an “in-network” provider anywhere in the country. The Blue Cross/Blue Shield network is a statewide (LIE) network therefore any care required while out of state is “out-of-network” care (LIE). Being self-insured, out-of-network care is costlier to the EBT and to the employee (LIE). I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe I was told the annual cost of out-of-network care to the EBT is approximately $1.5 million. This, of course, does not include the cost to the employee – rather than the co-pay the employee pays a percentage of the out-of-network charges (LIE). While “out-of-network” cost will probably not be eliminated completely it should be greatly reduced (LIE).
I DO NOT have a conflict of interest with the VSIT (LIE). As required, I have a disclosure statement on file at the district office (LIE in that it is incomplete -- a lie of omission if you will). I have no conflict of interest with any company or entity with which the district does business (LIE, as she proves when she contradicts herself it in the next sentence). I am a trustee on the Valley Schools Worker’s Compensation Board and the Valley Schools Liability Board. I was (re)appointed to these Boards by the PUSD Governing Board. I’ve been on the VSWC Board for several years. I was only recently appointed to the VSL Board to fill the seat vacated by Ms. Debra Raeder when she left the PUSD Gov. Brd. I serve on these Boards on behalf of PUSD in the administration (LIE) of the Liability and Worker’s Comp. Insurance pools. I have no personal interest, financial or otherwise, in either of these insurance pools (LIE) nor do I receive any remuneration for this service (LIE, because the renumerations are indirect). As my campaign finance reports clearly show, I have not taken any campaign contributions from VSIT or any of their top executives (or any VSIT employee for that matter) for either of my campaigns (these reports are on file with the Maricopa County Recorder’s Dept and available on that website) (LIE -- your are required to report contributions up to a fourth party, something she did not do in these reports, making this the THIRD state law in which she stands in violation). And although you haven’t asked, for the record, my husband does NOT now, nor has he ever, been an employee of UHC or Valley Schools . Since no conflict is involved, where he does work is, quite frankly, no one’s business (LIE -- it is very much our business, even if he does work for the State of Arizona) but ours. But, also for the record, I guess Mrs. Coury did “gotcha” me during the April 13th PUSD EBT meeting – alas, I am, in fact, a registered Republican.
As was clearly explained in multiple EBT and employee meetings, PUSD’s EBT is remaining intact (LIE -- and, once again, she contradicts herself in the next sentence). It is being rolled under the umbrella of a multi-district trust. PUSD’s funds will be used to purchase/pay for benefits for PUSD employees (HALF-TRUTH, it will also be used to pay benefits for employees in other school districts, and PUSD has NO control over where or how much). PUSD is a founding member of the Valley Schools Insurance Trust and the Valley Schools EBT. The Worker’s Comp and Liability pools have been saving the member districts (PUSD, Deer Valley and Paradise Valley (LIE -- in the exact same deal, PV appeared to save money in the first year only to see thier insurance cost go up by more than $4 million in the second year ) on WC and Liability insurance coverage since its inception. As a founding member, even though we withdrew from the VSEBT a few years ago, upon the District’s return we will regain our Board seats on the VSEBT. The relationship will be governed by an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA).
There is no doubt that when the PUSD EBT was formed 20 years ago (give or take) the self-insured trust concept was a cutting edge idea which saved the district a lot of money. However in today’s health care market it is evident that being a (relatively) small, single district trust is costing, rather than saving, the district money for the exact same coverage (LIE).
A la my former board colleague - perhaps a better question is: why would people who sit (or sat) on the PUSD EBT & Governing Boards, who are vested with looking out for the best interests of the District, the employees and the taxpayers, work so hard to keep all of the aforementioned from realizing millions of dollars of savings for so long (LIE)?
I believe I have answered all your questions (LIE) – if I missed any, please let me know. I appreciate the opportunity to dispel the rumors – although I very much doubt that “PUSD Teacher” will take my word for it. I have attached to this email my response to the employee emails that I received. I have also attached a Q&A information sheet about VSEBT and the cost savings options which were outlined for the EBT Board and the employees during multiple meetings. Information from the employee presentations is also available on the PUSD portal (click on “Departments” along the top menu; then under Support Services “Insurance Benefits;” finally under “Insurance Links” click “Benefit Employee Meeting Information”). If you have any additional questions about this or any other issue in the future – please don’t hesitate to contact me. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Diane
PS – Again, although you didn’t ask but “for the record,” the Board did not have a “choice” as some have stated. The Nobel Lease was a breach of contract and as such is NOT covered by insurance (LIE). There may be some choice out of which “fund” the settlement can be paid but it will be paid with district funds. Sad, but true (LIE). DMD
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 01:31 am |
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I think it does fit you to a T.
Like you, Joe McCarthy had no facts. Like you, he was all bluster and bully and lacking in integrity and credibility.
Fortunately in this instance there are plenty of facts that show how corrupt Diane Douglas is:
Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign.
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total the VSIT members donated.
You, like the republicans in Joe McCarthy's day, would rather stick your head in the sand rather than acknowledge the truth.
Good Americans aren't blinded by the need to be right.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29th, 2009 12:42 am |
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Apache Mom wrote:
If it walks like a duck . . .
Isn't that what Joe McCarthy said in the 50s, if I deem you to be Communist, you must be Communist?
The dictionary defines McCarthyism as "personal attacks on individuals by means of widely publicized indiscriminate allegations, especially on the basis of unsubstantiated charges."
Kind of fits to a T, doesn't it?
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