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Dear Mr. Arnold (LIE -- that's not your name, coward),
Thank you for your questions. I appreciate the opportunity to address the blatant misinformation (LIE) which is being circulated. Hope you don’t mind if I answer both of your emails with one response! While I will gladly respond to your questions – I think it prudent to keep my comments and thoughts about the blog posting from the person identifying him/herself as “PUSD Teacher” to myself (LIE -- she knows who I am).
United Health Care is a nationwide network; meaning any employee needing medical care while out of state on vacation or a covered dependent (i.e. child attending school out of state) can be covered by an “in-network” provider anywhere in the country. The Blue Cross/Blue Shield network is a statewide (LIE) network therefore any care required while out of state is “out-of-network” care (LIE). Being self-insured, out-of-network care is costlier to the EBT and to the employee (LIE). I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe I was told the annual cost of out-of-network care to the EBT is approximately $1.5 million. This, of course, does not include the cost to the employee – rather than the co-pay the employee pays a percentage of the out-of-network charges (LIE). While “out-of-network” cost will probably not be eliminated completely it should be greatly reduced (LIE).
I DO NOT have a conflict of interest with the VSIT (LIE). As required, I have a disclosure statement on file at the district office (LIE in that it is incomplete -- a lie of omission if you will). I have no conflict of interest with any company or entity with which the district does business (LIE, as she proves when she contradicts herself it in the next sentence). I am a trustee on the Valley Schools Worker’s Compensation Board and the Valley Schools Liability Board. I was (re)appointed to these Boards by the PUSD Governing Board. I’ve been on the VSWC Board for several years. I was only recently appointed to the VSL Board to fill the seat vacated by Ms. Debra Raeder when she left the PUSD Gov. Brd. I serve on these Boards on behalf of PUSD in the administration (LIE) of the Liability and Worker’s Comp. Insurance pools. I have no personal interest, financial or otherwise, in either of these insurance pools (LIE) nor do I receive any remuneration for this service (LIE, because the renumerations are indirect). As my campaign finance reports clearly show, I have not taken any campaign contributions from VSIT or any of their top executives (or any VSIT employee for that matter) for either of my campaigns (these reports are on file with the Maricopa County Recorder’s Dept and available on that website) (LIE -- your are required to report contributions up to a fourth party, something she did not do in these reports, making this the THIRD state law in which she stands in violation). And although you haven’t asked, for the record, my husband does NOT now, nor has he ever, been an employee of UHC or Valley Schools . Since no conflict is involved, where he does work is, quite frankly, no one’s business (LIE -- it is very much our business, even if he does work for the State of Arizona) but ours. But, also for the record, I guess Mrs. Coury did “gotcha” me during the April 13th PUSD EBT meeting – alas, I am, in fact, a registered Republican.
As was clearly explained in multiple EBT and employee meetings, PUSD’s EBT is remaining intact (LIE -- and, once again, she contradicts herself in the next sentence). It is being rolled under the umbrella of a multi-district trust. PUSD’s funds will be used to purchase/pay for benefits for PUSD employees (HALF-TRUTH, it will also be used to pay benefits for employees in other school districts, and PUSD has NO control over where or how much). PUSD is a founding member of the Valley Schools Insurance Trust and the Valley Schools EBT. The Worker’s Comp and Liability pools have been saving the member districts (PUSD, Deer Valley and Paradise Valley (LIE -- in the exact same deal, PV appeared to save money in the first year only to see thier insurance cost go up by more than $4 million in the second year ) on WC and Liability insurance coverage since its inception. As a founding member, even though we withdrew from the VSEBT a few years ago, upon the District’s return we will regain our Board seats on the VSEBT. The relationship will be governed by an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA).
There is no doubt that when the PUSD EBT was formed 20 years ago (give or take) the self-insured trust concept was a cutting edge idea which saved the district a lot of money. However in today’s health care market it is evident that being a (relatively) small, single district trust is costing, rather than saving, the district money for the exact same coverage (LIE).
A la my former board colleague - perhaps a better question is: why would people who sit (or sat) on the PUSD EBT & Governing Boards, who are vested with looking out for the best interests of the District, the employees and the taxpayers, work so hard to keep all of the aforementioned from realizing millions of dollars of savings for so long (LIE)?
I believe I have answered all your questions (LIE) – if I missed any, please let me know. I appreciate the opportunity to dispel the rumors – although I very much doubt that “PUSD Teacher” will take my word for it. I have attached to this email my response to the employee emails that I received. I have also attached a Q&A information sheet about VSEBT and the cost savings options which were outlined for the EBT Board and the employees during multiple meetings. Information from the employee presentations is also available on the PUSD portal (click on “Departments” along the top menu; then under Support Services “Insurance Benefits;” finally under “Insurance Links” click “Benefit Employee Meeting Information”). If you have any additional questions about this or any other issue in the future – please don’t hesitate to contact me. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Diane
PS – Again, although you didn’t ask but “for the record,” the Board did not have a “choice” as some have stated. The Nobel Lease was a breach of contract and as such is NOT covered by insurance (LIE). There may be some choice out of which “fund” the settlement can be paid but it will be paid with district funds. Sad, but true (LIE). DMD
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Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign.
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total the VSIT members donated.
If it walks like a duck . . .
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Dear Mr. Arnold (LIE -- that's not your name, coward),
Thank you for your questions. I appreciate the opportunity to address the blatant misinformation (LIE) which is being circulated. Hope you don’t mind if I answer both of your emails with one response! While I will gladly respond to your questions – I think it prudent to keep my comments and thoughts about the blog posting from the person identifying him/herself as “PUSD Teacher” to myself (LIE -- she knows who I am).
United Health Care is a nationwide network; meaning any employee needing medical care while out of state on vacation or a covered dependent (i.e. child attending school out of state) can be covered by an “in-network” provider anywhere in the country. The Blue Cross/Blue Shield network is a statewide (LIE) network therefore any care required while out of state is “out-of-network” care (LIE). Being self-insured, out-of-network care is costlier to the EBT and to the employee (LIE). I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe I was told the annual cost of out-of-network care to the EBT is approximately $1.5 million. This, of course, does not include the cost to the employee – rather than the co-pay the employee pays a percentage of the out-of-network charges (LIE). While “out-of-network” cost will probably not be eliminated completely it should be greatly reduced (LIE).
I DO NOT have a conflict of interest with the VSIT (LIE). As required, I have a disclosure statement on file at the district office (LIE in that it is incomplete -- a lie of omission if you will). I have no conflict of interest with any company or entity with which the district does business (LIE, as she proves when she contradicts herself it in the next sentence). I am a trustee on the Valley Schools Worker’s Compensation Board and the Valley Schools Liability Board. I was (re)appointed to these Boards by the PUSD Governing Board. I’ve been on the VSWC Board for several years. I was only recently appointed to the VSL Board to fill the seat vacated by Ms. Debra Raeder when she left the PUSD Gov. Brd. I serve on these Boards on behalf of PUSD in the administration (LIE) of the Liability and Worker’s Comp. Insurance pools. I have no personal interest, financial or otherwise, in either of these insurance pools (LIE) nor do I receive any remuneration for this service (LIE, because the renumerations are indirect). As my campaign finance reports clearly show, I have not taken any campaign contributions from VSIT or any of their top executives (or any VSIT employee for that matter) for either of my campaigns (these reports are on file with the Maricopa County Recorder’s Dept and available on that website) (LIE -- your are required to report contributions up to a fourth party, something she did not do in these reports, making this the THIRD state law in which she stands in violation). And although you haven’t asked, for the record, my husband does NOT now, nor has he ever, been an employee of UHC or Valley Schools . Since no conflict is involved, where he does work is, quite frankly, no one’s business (LIE -- it is very much our business, even if he does work for the State of Arizona) but ours. But, also for the record, I guess Mrs. Coury did “gotcha” me during the April 13th PUSD EBT meeting – alas, I am, in fact, a registered Republican.
As was clearly explained in multiple EBT and employee meetings, PUSD’s EBT is remaining intact (LIE -- and, once again, she contradicts herself in the next sentence). It is being rolled under the umbrella of a multi-district trust. PUSD’s funds will be used to purchase/pay for benefits for PUSD employees (HALF-TRUTH, it will also be used to pay benefits for employees in other school districts, and PUSD has NO control over where or how much). PUSD is a founding member of the Valley Schools Insurance Trust and the Valley Schools EBT. The Worker’s Comp and Liability pools have been saving the member districts (PUSD, Deer Valley and Paradise Valley (LIE -- in the exact same deal, PV appeared to save money in the first year only to see thier insurance cost go up by more than $4 million in the second year ) on WC and Liability insurance coverage since its inception. As a founding member, even though we withdrew from the VSEBT a few years ago, upon the District’s return we will regain our Board seats on the VSEBT. The relationship will be governed by an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA).
There is no doubt that when the PUSD EBT was formed 20 years ago (give or take) the self-insured trust concept was a cutting edge idea which saved the district a lot of money. However in today’s health care market it is evident that being a (relatively) small, single district trust is costing, rather than saving, the district money for the exact same coverage (LIE).
A la my former board colleague - perhaps a better question is: why would people who sit (or sat) on the PUSD EBT & Governing Boards, who are vested with looking out for the best interests of the District, the employees and the taxpayers, work so hard to keep all of the aforementioned from realizing millions of dollars of savings for so long (LIE)?
I believe I have answered all your questions (LIE) – if I missed any, please let me know. I appreciate the opportunity to dispel the rumors – although I very much doubt that “PUSD Teacher” will take my word for it. I have attached to this email my response to the employee emails that I received. I have also attached a Q&A information sheet about VSEBT and the cost savings options which were outlined for the EBT Board and the employees during multiple meetings. Information from the employee presentations is also available on the PUSD portal (click on “Departments” along the top menu; then under Support Services “Insurance Benefits;” finally under “Insurance Links” click “Benefit Employee Meeting Information”). If you have any additional questions about this or any other issue in the future – please don’t hesitate to contact me. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Diane
PS – Again, although you didn’t ask but “for the record,” the Board did not have a “choice” as some have stated. The Nobel Lease was a breach of contract and as such is NOT covered by insurance (LIE). There may be some choice out of which “fund” the settlement can be paid but it will be paid with district funds. Sad, but true (LIE). DMD PUSD Teacher
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Joined: Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 Location: Posts: 59 Status: Online Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 06:37 pm Edit Quote Reply Dear Mr. Arnold (LIE -- that's not your name, coward),
Thank you for your questions. I appreciate the opportunity to address the blatant misinformation (LIE) which is being circulated. Hope you don’t mind if I answer both of your emails with one response! While I will gladly respond to your questions – I think it prudent to keep my comments and thoughts about the blog posting from the person identifying him/herself as “PUSD Teacher” to myself (LIE -- she knows who I am).
United Health Care is a nationwide network; meaning any employee needing medical care while out of state on vacation or a covered dependent (i.e. child attending school out of state) can be covered by an “in-network” provider anywhere in the country. The Blue Cross/Blue Shield network is a statewide (LIE) network therefore any care required while out of state is “out-of-network” care (LIE). Being self-insured, out-of-network care is costlier to the EBT and to the employee (LIE). I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe I was told the annual cost of out-of-network care to the EBT is approximately $1.5 million. This, of course, does not include the cost to the employee – rather than the co-pay the employee pays a percentage of the out-of-network charges (LIE). While “out-of-network” cost will probably not be eliminated completely it should be greatly reduced (LIE).
I DO NOT have a conflict of interest with the VSIT (LIE). As required, I have a disclosure statement on file at the district office (LIE in that it is incomplete -- a lie of omission if you will). I have no conflict of interest with any company or entity with which the district does business (LIE, as she proves when she contradicts herself it in the next sentence). I am a trustee on the Valley Schools Worker’s Compensation Board and the Valley Schools Liability Board. I was (re)appointed to these Boards by the PUSD Governing Board. I’ve been on the VSWC Board for several years. I was only recently appointed to the VSL Board to fill the seat vacated by Ms. Debra Raeder when she left the PUSD Gov. Brd. I serve on these Boards on behalf of PUSD in the administration (LIE) of the Liability and Worker’s Comp. Insurance pools. I have no personal interest, financial or otherwise, in either of these insurance pools (LIE) nor do I receive any remuneration for this service (LIE, because the renumerations are indirect). As my campaign finance reports clearly show, I have not taken any campaign contributions from VSIT or any of their top executives (or any VSIT employee for that matter) for either of my campaigns (these reports are on file with the Maricopa County Recorder’s Dept and available on that website) (LIE -- your are required to report contributions up to a fourth party, something she did not do in these reports, making this the THIRD state law in which she stands in violation). And although you haven’t asked, for the record, my husband does NOT now, nor has he ever, been an employee of UHC or Valley Schools . Since no conflict is involved, where he does work is, quite frankly, no one’s business (LIE -- it is very much our business, even if he does work for the State of Arizona) but ours. But, also for the record, I guess Mrs. Coury did “gotcha” me during the April 13th PUSD EBT meeting – alas, I am, in fact, a registered Republican.
As was clearly explained in multiple EBT and employee meetings, PUSD’s EBT is remaining intact (LIE -- and, once again, she contradicts herself in the next sentence). It is being rolled under the umbrella of a multi-district trust. PUSD’s funds will be used to purchase/pay for benefits for PUSD employees (HALF-TRUTH, it will also be used to pay benefits for employees in other school districts, and PUSD has NO control over where or how much). PUSD is a founding member of the Valley Schools Insurance Trust and the Valley Schools EBT. The Worker’s Comp and Liability pools have been saving the member districts (PUSD, Deer Valley and Paradise Valley (LIE -- in the exact same deal, PV appeared to save money in the first year only to see thier insurance cost go up by more than $4 million in the second year ) on WC and Liability insurance coverage since its inception. As a founding member, even though we withdrew from the VSEBT a few years ago, upon the District’s return we will regain our Board seats on the VSEBT. The relationship will be governed by an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA).
There is no doubt that when the PUSD EBT was formed 20 years ago (give or take) the self-insured trust concept was a cutting edge idea which saved the district a lot of money. However in today’s health care market it is evident that being a (relatively) small, single district trust is costing, rather than saving, the district money for the exact same coverage (LIE).
A la my former board colleague - perhaps a better question is: why would people who sit (or sat) on the PUSD EBT & Governing Boards, who are vested with looking out for the best interests of the District, the employees and the taxpayers, work so hard to keep all of the aforementioned from realizing millions of dollars of savings for so long (LIE)?
I believe I have answered all your questions (LIE) – if I missed any, please let me know. I appreciate the opportunity to dispel the rumors – although I very much doubt that “PUSD Teacher” will take my word for it. I have attached to this email my response to the employee emails that I received. I have also attached a Q&A information sheet about VSEBT and the cost savings options which were outlined for the EBT Board and the employees during multiple meetings. Information from the employee presentations is also available on the PUSD portal (click on “Departments” along the top menu; then under Support Services “Insurance Benefits;” finally under “Insurance Links” click “Benefit Employee Meeting Information”). If you have any additional questions about this or any other issue in the future – please don’t hesitate to contact me. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Diane
PS – Again, although you didn’t ask but “for the record,” the Board did not have a “choice” as some have stated. The Nobel Lease was a breach of contract and as such is NOT covered by insurance (LIE). There may be some choice out of which “fund” the settlement can be paid but it will be paid with district funds. Sad, but true (LIE). DMD
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Apache Mom wrote: Your attempt to minimize this is weak. I notice you skipped a couple of key facts, so let me add them for you:
Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign.
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total the VSIT members donated.
Coincidence? I don't think so.
But you know what I think is funny? How you wish to downplay this. You're hoping no one will actually read the posts or follow the links because you know if they do you'll be revealed for the fraud you are.
This stinks of corruption, and whenever anything stinks Diane Douglas comes to mind first.
No go away again. Unhappy has some unfinished business she needs to attend to.
And Mr. Highlen says to say hello. I recently spoke with him and two members of the EBT board about this insurance switch, and it turns out you, and Diane Douglas, have been posting nothing but lies. Why am I not shocked?
Maricopa County is the hotbed of these very conservative Republican candidates. Did you note the number of candidates this group backed and won. Frankly, it would surprise me if there were any of these conservative folks out there who didn't belong and contribute to this group. As much as I wish it were the case, simply being a very conservative Republican does not equate to being a crook - at least not in my America..... Again, this is all you've got???? WOWWWW!!! This is McCarthyism at its absolute worst - that's exactly what this is.....Did any of you ever stop to consider that just maybe this all is going to save some jobs in this district??
And, Apache Mommy, did you ask Mr. Highlen about the Nobel lease again while you were at it? Did he tell you again that the white horse insurance company was going to swoop down and pay that 1.25 million? Ask him why he didn't tell me about it....I think he was giving you preferential treatment.....or else you have a problem with the truth.....
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Dear Mr. Arnold (LIE -- that's not your name, coward),
Thank you for your questions. I appreciate the opportunity to address the blatant misinformation (LIE) which is being circulated. Hope you don’t mind if I answer both of your emails with one response! While I will gladly respond to your questions – I think it prudent to keep my comments and thoughts about the blog posting from the person identifying him/herself as “PUSD Teacher” to myself (LIE -- she knows who I am).
United Health Care is a nationwide network; meaning any employee needing medical care while out of state on vacation or a covered dependent (i.e. child attending school out of state) can be covered by an “in-network” provider anywhere in the country. The Blue Cross/Blue Shield network is a statewide (LIE) network therefore any care required while out of state is “out-of-network” care (LIE). Being self-insured, out-of-network care is costlier to the EBT and to the employee (LIE). I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe I was told the annual cost of out-of-network care to the EBT is approximately $1.5 million. This, of course, does not include the cost to the employee – rather than the co-pay the employee pays a percentage of the out-of-network charges (LIE). While “out-of-network” cost will probably not be eliminated completely it should be greatly reduced (LIE).
I DO NOT have a conflict of interest with the VSIT (LIE). As required, I have a disclosure statement on file at the district office (LIE in that it is incomplete -- a lie of omission if you will). I have no conflict of interest with any company or entity with which the district does business (LIE, as she proves when she contradicts herself it in the next sentence). I am a trustee on the Valley Schools Worker’s Compensation Board and the Valley Schools Liability Board. I was (re)appointed to these Boards by the PUSD Governing Board. I’ve been on the VSWC Board for several years. I was only recently appointed to the VSL Board to fill the seat vacated by Ms. Debra Raeder when she left the PUSD Gov. Brd. I serve on these Boards on behalf of PUSD in the administration (LIE) of the Liability and Worker’s Comp. Insurance pools. I have no personal interest, financial or otherwise, in either of these insurance pools (LIE) nor do I receive any remuneration for this service (LIE, because the renumerations are indirect). As my campaign finance reports clearly show, I have not taken any campaign contributions from VSIT or any of their top executives (or any VSIT employee for that matter) for either of my campaigns (these reports are on file with the Maricopa County Recorder’s Dept and available on that website) (LIE -- your are required to report contributions up to a fourth party, something she did not do in these reports, making this the THIRD state law in which she stands in violation). And although you haven’t asked, for the record, my husband does NOT now, nor has he ever, been an employee of UHC or Valley Schools . Since no conflict is involved, where he does work is, quite frankly, no one’s business (LIE -- it is very much our business, even if he does work for the State of Arizona) but ours. But, also for the record, I guess Mrs. Coury did “gotcha” me during the April 13th PUSD EBT meeting – alas, I am, in fact, a registered Republican.
As was clearly explained in multiple EBT and employee meetings, PUSD’s EBT is remaining intact (LIE -- and, once again, she contradicts herself in the next sentence). It is being rolled under the umbrella of a multi-district trust. PUSD’s funds will be used to purchase/pay for benefits for PUSD employees (HALF-TRUTH, it will also be used to pay benefits for employees in other school districts, and PUSD has NO control over where or how much). PUSD is a founding member of the Valley Schools Insurance Trust and the Valley Schools EBT. The Worker’s Comp and Liability pools have been saving the member districts (PUSD, Deer Valley and Paradise Valley (LIE -- in the exact same deal, PV appeared to save money in the first year only to see thier insurance cost go up by more than $4 million in the second year ) on WC and Liability insurance coverage since its inception. As a founding member, even though we withdrew from the VSEBT a few years ago, upon the District’s return we will regain our Board seats on the VSEBT. The relationship will be governed by an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA).
There is no doubt that when the PUSD EBT was formed 20 years ago (give or take) the self-insured trust concept was a cutting edge idea which saved the district a lot of money. However in today’s health care market it is evident that being a (relatively) small, single district trust is costing, rather than saving, the district money for the exact same coverage (LIE).
A la my former board colleague - perhaps a better question is: why would people who sit (or sat) on the PUSD EBT & Governing Boards, who are vested with looking out for the best interests of the District, the employees and the taxpayers, work so hard to keep all of the aforementioned from realizing millions of dollars of savings for so long (LIE)?
I believe I have answered all your questions (LIE) – if I missed any, please let me know. I appreciate the opportunity to dispel the rumors – although I very much doubt that “PUSD Teacher” will take my word for it. I have attached to this email my response to the employee emails that I received. I have also attached a Q&A information sheet about VSEBT and the cost savings options which were outlined for the EBT Board and the employees during multiple meetings. Information from the employee presentations is also available on the PUSD portal (click on “Departments” along the top menu; then under Support Services “Insurance Benefits;” finally under “Insurance Links” click “Benefit Employee Meeting Information”). If you have any additional questions about this or any other issue in the future – please don’t hesitate to contact me. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Diane
PS – Again, although you didn’t ask but “for the record,” the Board did not have a “choice” as some have stated. The Nobel Lease was a breach of contract and as such is NOT covered by insurance (LIE). There may be some choice out of which “fund” the settlement can be paid but it will be paid with district funds. Sad, but true (LIE). DMD PUSD Teacher
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Joined: Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 Location: Posts: 59 Status: Online Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 06:37 pm Edit Quote Reply Dear Mr. Arnold (LIE -- that's not your name, coward),
Thank you for your questions. I appreciate the opportunity to address the blatant misinformation (LIE) which is being circulated. Hope you don’t mind if I answer both of your emails with one response! While I will gladly respond to your questions – I think it prudent to keep my comments and thoughts about the blog posting from the person identifying him/herself as “PUSD Teacher” to myself (LIE -- she knows who I am).
United Health Care is a nationwide network; meaning any employee needing medical care while out of state on vacation or a covered dependent (i.e. child attending school out of state) can be covered by an “in-network” provider anywhere in the country. The Blue Cross/Blue Shield network is a statewide (LIE) network therefore any care required while out of state is “out-of-network” care (LIE). Being self-insured, out-of-network care is costlier to the EBT and to the employee (LIE). I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe I was told the annual cost of out-of-network care to the EBT is approximately $1.5 million. This, of course, does not include the cost to the employee – rather than the co-pay the employee pays a percentage of the out-of-network charges (LIE). While “out-of-network” cost will probably not be eliminated completely it should be greatly reduced (LIE).
I DO NOT have a conflict of interest with the VSIT (LIE). As required, I have a disclosure statement on file at the district office (LIE in that it is incomplete -- a lie of omission if you will). I have no conflict of interest with any company or entity with which the district does business (LIE, as she proves when she contradicts herself it in the next sentence). I am a trustee on the Valley Schools Worker’s Compensation Board and the Valley Schools Liability Board. I was (re)appointed to these Boards by the PUSD Governing Board. I’ve been on the VSWC Board for several years. I was only recently appointed to the VSL Board to fill the seat vacated by Ms. Debra Raeder when she left the PUSD Gov. Brd. I serve on these Boards on behalf of PUSD in the administration (LIE) of the Liability and Worker’s Comp. Insurance pools. I have no personal interest, financial or otherwise, in either of these insurance pools (LIE) nor do I receive any remuneration for this service (LIE, because the renumerations are indirect). As my campaign finance reports clearly show, I have not taken any campaign contributions from VSIT or any of their top executives (or any VSIT employee for that matter) for either of my campaigns (these reports are on file with the Maricopa County Recorder’s Dept and available on that website) (LIE -- your are required to report contributions up to a fourth party, something she did not do in these reports, making this the THIRD state law in which she stands in violation). And although you haven’t asked, for the record, my husband does NOT now, nor has he ever, been an employee of UHC or Valley Schools . Since no conflict is involved, where he does work is, quite frankly, no one’s business (LIE -- it is very much our business, even if he does work for the State of Arizona) but ours. But, also for the record, I guess Mrs. Coury did “gotcha” me during the April 13th PUSD EBT meeting – alas, I am, in fact, a registered Republican.
As was clearly explained in multiple EBT and employee meetings, PUSD’s EBT is remaining intact (LIE -- and, once again, she contradicts herself in the next sentence). It is being rolled under the umbrella of a multi-district trust. PUSD’s funds will be used to purchase/pay for benefits for PUSD employees (HALF-TRUTH, it will also be used to pay benefits for employees in other school districts, and PUSD has NO control over where or how much). PUSD is a founding member of the Valley Schools Insurance Trust and the Valley Schools EBT. The Worker’s Comp and Liability pools have been saving the member districts (PUSD, Deer Valley and Paradise Valley (LIE -- in the exact same deal, PV appeared to save money in the first year only to see thier insurance cost go up by more than $4 million in the second year ) on WC and Liability insurance coverage since its inception. As a founding member, even though we withdrew from the VSEBT a few years ago, upon the District’s return we will regain our Board seats on the VSEBT. The relationship will be governed by an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA).
There is no doubt that when the PUSD EBT was formed 20 years ago (give or take) the self-insured trust concept was a cutting edge idea which saved the district a lot of money. However in today’s health care market it is evident that being a (relatively) small, single district trust is costing, rather than saving, the district money for the exact same coverage (LIE).
A la my former board colleague - perhaps a better question is: why would people who sit (or sat) on the PUSD EBT & Governing Boards, who are vested with looking out for the best interests of the District, the employees and the taxpayers, work so hard to keep all of the aforementioned from realizing millions of dollars of savings for so long (LIE)?
I believe I have answered all your questions (LIE) – if I missed any, please let me know. I appreciate the opportunity to dispel the rumors – although I very much doubt that “PUSD Teacher” will take my word for it. I have attached to this email my response to the employee emails that I received. I have also attached a Q&A information sheet about VSEBT and the cost savings options which were outlined for the EBT Board and the employees during multiple meetings. Information from the employee presentations is also available on the PUSD portal (click on “Departments” along the top menu; then under Support Services “Insurance Benefits;” finally under “Insurance Links” click “Benefit Employee Meeting Information”). If you have any additional questions about this or any other issue in the future – please don’t hesitate to contact me. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Diane
PS – Again, although you didn’t ask but “for the record,” the Board did not have a “choice” as some have stated. The Nobel Lease was a breach of contract and as such is NOT covered by insurance (LIE). There may be some choice out of which “fund” the settlement can be paid but it will be paid with district funds. Sad, but true (LIE). DMD
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Your attempt to minimize this is weak. I notice you skipped a couple of key facts, so let me add them for you:
Fact: every member of the VSIT management is a member of the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: each of them have contributed to the Pachyderm Coalition.
Fact: The Terminally Corrupt Diane Douglas once served as treasure and then secretary of the group.
Fact: The Pachyderm Coalition was the single greatest contributor to Douglas's campaign.
Fact: The amount the Pachyderm Coalition donated to her campaign just happened to be the total the VSIT members donated.
Coincidence? I don't think so.
But you know what I think is funny? How you wish to downplay this. You're hoping no one will actually read the posts or follow the links because you know if they do you'll be revealed for the fraud you are.
This stinks of corruption, and whenever anything stinks Diane Douglas comes to mind first.
No go away again. Unhappy has some unfinished business she needs to attend to.
And Mr. Highlen says to say hello. I recently spoke with him and two members of the EBT board about this insurance switch, and it turns out you, and Diane Douglas, have been posting nothing but lies. Why am I not shocked?
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Welcome back to the forum AYNKM. Apache Mom is back, too. This is really starting to become interesting.
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areyounotkidding me wrote: OK PUSD, this is what Joe McCarthy used to do. We know you're a member of the Communist party. Prove to us that you are not.....
Diane Douglas, we know you took campaign contributions from VSIT board members. Prove to us that you did not.
You see, PUSD, that's not the way America is supposed to work. See, the person throwing out the very serious allegations that the board president took campaign contributions and did not report them needs to back up that allegation with evidence. I have seen nothing of that ilk at all. You must have something for you to state this and we would all be very interested to hear them.
And PUSD, you epitomize what Diane Douglas is up against. You have probably been in this district since you got out of college and the district has been this nice little cozy club where nothing was ever questioned very strenously. Jack Erb had these boards in his back pocket and he kind of could do pretty much anything he wanted. Douglas came into power and started questioning how things are done and the members of this cozy club don't like their little club threatened and you will do anything and say anything to fight back, based on facts or not.
You are also what's wrong with the tenure system that is in place now. In any other business, you would be in the big office where the board meets and you better d**n well be able to back up what you are saying here with hard concrete evidence or you can kiss your ass goodbye. Instead, you are able to make these unfounded charges and can really be a half-assed teacher knowing the system can't do a thing to you. There is no doubt in my mind your very sour atttitude transfers into your classroom.
I remember when the board members first started talking about this VSIT. I admittedly knew very little about it, but I was struck at the immediate opposition to it without these people hearing anything about it. It seems that that is the credo of this little cult we have in this district. We've always done it that way, why do we need to change anything?
And Diane Douglas, I know you don't hear this enough, but thank you. For you to be able to withstand what must be intense pressure from the PUSDs of the district, well, I don't know how you do it. It really is difficult to argue with idiots who don't base opinions on any type of fact pattern. I keep thinking there must be something about you that makes people dislike you so intensely and keep waiting for some type of hard evidence that you are this corrupt politician, but all I get is rumor and innuendo. The more I deal with these people on this little forum, I am convinced they just don't want anything to change and so resent when you question what has been done for years. And, if they can't attack the message with fact and evidence, they resort to attacking the messenger.
So, again, thank you for your service and please keep it up. I think there are a lot more people out there than you realize who understand what you are up against and truly appreciate the great job you are doing.
I say again, this is America and that's all you have????
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| Apache Mom I'm starting to think you don't like me.....
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| Apache Mom's on line? I've so missed Apache Mom..... Where have you been? Ever since you made that phone call to Mr. Highlen (wink, wink), you have made yourself scarce. I always enjoy conversing with Apache Mom.
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Frankie - I'm back already! I received a very interesting email from Newszap......
I promise not to make fun of your blog any more nor say that you didn't have an original thought the whole time you did your blog nor will I torture you any more with Tractor Pull Guy nor will I say that your blog had all the originality and excitement of a morgue. Those days are over!!! Bless me Father for I have sinned I will say three Our Fathers and three Hail Marys.....Please help Frankie to forgive me and to have Frankie like me. It is very important to me.
Now, I'm thanking you for posting Erickson's posts. That is what Peoria Dad and you should continue doing as you both excel at it. Let's break this down what is your "evidence" AKA bulls**t here.
Diane Douglas serves on the trustee of the Valley Schools Workers' Compensation Board and was recently appointed to the Valley Schools Liability Board, the latter a post Debbie relinquished when she mercifully ended her reign of b**chiness on PUSD. Both of these positions are appointed by PUSD administration.
What this all boils down to is this: The Pachyderm Coalition, a bunch of exceedingly white people, promote the Reagan philosophy of limited government, etc, etc. If you will note there are many members of this coalition and you will also note how many Republican candidates they back. So this is what Erickson and all of you are making the leap across the Grand Canyon about??? This is it?? Because this Ted Carpenter was a member of this very large organization in this unfortunately very Republican state and this very large organization gave Diane Douglas $500, that's what this is all about?
You've got to be kidding.....
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unhappyinpusd wrote: Apache Mom: I am not Paula. You may continue to believe I am Paula, just as you continue to believe Michael Erickson really exists. You are delusional. And, I still believe you were part of the Jack-Rat-Brat-Pack. You can hide behind a rock, but you know, as well as I, that you, too, had a vested [financial] interest in certain issues (but - of course - you will continue to ignore YOUR conflict of interest) Get over it, MOM -- Michael does not exist. If he/she did- he/she will be at the next Board meeting. We're waiting to FINALLY have the privilege to meet him/her. signing off.... "Paula" (since that's the name you seem to want to label me with....)
Paula,
Oh, the irony.
It seems to me that you're not just a hypocrite, but a coward as well.
Here you are insinuating serious allegations without being specific or producing any evidence, the exact same thing you accused PUSD Teacher of doing. Yet it's OK for you to do it?
So tell me, exactly what was my vested interest? Please, enthrall us with your legal acumen by pointing out EXACTLY what was illegal during the last bond or override election.
These are very serious charges, and now that you've brought them up the public deserves to know more. So, let's hear EXACTLY what they are and let's see the backup. I'm only asking for exactly what you have asked for from others, and been provided with, on these very same boards.
Please answer these questions precisely and accurately. Failure to do so will reveal you to be the fraud I believe you are.
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Apache Mom: I am not Paula. You may continue to believe I am Paula, just as you continue to believe Michael Erickson really exists. You are delusional. And, I still believe you were part of the Jack-Rat-Brat-Pack. You can hide behind a rock, but you know, as well as I, that you, too, had a vested [financial] interest in certain issues (but - of course - you will continue to ignore YOUR conflict of interest) Get over it, MOM -- Michael does not exist. If he/she did- he/she will be at the next Board meeting. We're waiting to FINALLY have the privilege to meet him/her. signing off.... "Paula" (since that's the name you seem to want to label me with....)
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Unhappy, are you there? Come out, come out, wherever you are.
I guess Paula's gone. That happens every time someone asks her a straight question that she can't answer.
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unhappyinpusd wrote: Apache Mom wrote: It was perfectly OK when you and your friends threw rocks, filed lawsuits and attacked two private citizens as they campaigned, and won, hundreds of millions of dollars for the school district while you and your friends did nothing?
Are you absolutely sure you wanna go there, Apache Mom????? "Private Citizens" who campaigned? give me an ever-lovin' break. You were in Jack's back pocket and you know it, and it was illegal, and you know that too, so just get over it. YOU and your minions LOST. Good bye. Good riddance. And -- my name is NOT Paula.
Paula,
I am positive I want to go there. Were they not private citizens? Yes they were.
Illegal? Really, please enthrall us with your legal acumen and tell us how, exactly, their campaign was illegal?
And how was I in anyone's pocket? You obviously think you know who I am, just like you think you know who Michale Erickson is, but you don't. I'll bet my house on it.
And it wasn't me who lost, it was our kids. Since Douglas and her corrupt friends have taken over, the achievement levels in the school district have gone down. The numbers, unlike you, don't lie.
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Apache Mom wrote: It was perfectly OK when you and your friends threw rocks, filed lawsuits and attacked two private citizens as they campaigned, and won, hundreds of millions of dollars for the school district while you and your friends did nothing?
Are you absolutely sure you wanna go there, Apache Mom????? "Private Citizens" who campaigned? give me an ever-lovin' break. You were in Jack's back pocket and you know it, and it was illegal, and you know that too, so just get over it. YOU and your minions LOST. Good bye. Good riddance. And -- my name is NOT Paula.
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unhappyinpusd wrote: DANA WROTE: If "he/she" doesn't exist, then who is doing the blogging?
Good question, Dana. Good luck finding the answer to that one.
You and I both know "Michael" doesn't exist in the real world. But, if you want to pretend he/she does exist, so does the tooth fairy, santa claus, the easter bunny, and the green leprachaun. Fantasy world in PUSD.
Take the wool off your eyes, Dana. And, while you're at it, puhleeeeezzzz take that chip off your shoulder, okay? Hatred is a horrible thing, and you spew it just like PUSD Teacher (are you sure you're not one in the same?)
You're the one who said you know who he is, so let's hear it.
I also noticed that you didn't answer the rest of her questions. Why do you and your friends not give straight answers to straight questions?
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unhappyinpusd wrote: ... the negative vile spewing from you is really starting to get to me. With that, all is said. I'm going to give myself a break from this hateful forum. We have enough stress to deal with day-to-day, in our "real" lives. We certainly don't need to add more stress to the mix by trying to deal with people like you. I've had enough.
So you were perfectly fine with the "vile" and "hateful" aspects of this forum when it was you and your friends attacking good people like Pam Ferguson, Pati Coury, Deb Raeder and Pat Galbraith? It was perfectly OK when you and your friends threw rocks, filed lawsuits and attacked two private citizens as they campaigned, and won, hundreds of millions of dollars for the school district while you and your friends did nothing?
Please, Paula (and we know it's you -- you're not a good enough writer to hide it), tell us when you had a change of heart? And please explain to us how you are not a hypocrite?
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DANA WROTE: If "he/she" doesn't exist, then who is doing the blogging?
Good question, Dana. Good luck finding the answer to that one.
You and I both know "Michael" doesn't exist in the real world. But, if you want to pretend he/she does exist, so does the tooth fairy, santa claus, the easter bunny, and the green leprachaun. Fantasy world in PUSD.
Take the wool off your eyes, Dana. And, while you're at it, puhleeeeezzzz take that chip off your shoulder, okay? Hatred is a horrible thing, and you spew it just like PUSD Teacher (are you sure you're not one in the same?)
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Paula,
First, I accept your apology!
Second, who is my "friend" Mary?
Third, why is it so important that Erickson shows up at a governing board meeting?
If you're a parent and haven't shown up at one of these meetings, does that mean you don't care about your kids?
If "he/she" doesn't exist, then who is doing the blogging?
Finally, please show us specifically where Erickson has been factually wrong.
And, again, I accept your apology.
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Yep, Dana, it's the "same" he/she I've been talking about all along (and - for the record- my name is not Paula, not that you'll believe it, but you can confirm it with my parents. My name has never been "Paula")
Are you implying that MICHAEL ERICKSON actually spoke before the legislature (and used the name "Michael Erickson"???) If so, I will check the Az Legislative records to confirm, and if it turns out that he/she really showed up IN PERSON and addressed concerns to the Legislature, then I will be the first to say I was wrong - Michael Erickson really and truly does exist (doubtful, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt).
As far as I know, no one (according to PUSD minutes) by the name of "Michael Erickson" has ever publicly addressed the Board. As I've stated all along, Dana, I do NOT know whether he/she has communicated privately with the Board via e-mail or private meetings. Unlike your friend Mary, I do not believe I am privy to that information. Regardless of whether you agree or not -- I really don't care. Bottom line: you and your alter ego PUSD teacher have a huge, huge chip on your shoulder and the negative vile spewing from you is really starting to get to me. With that, all is said. I'm going to give myself a break from this hateful forum. We have enough stress to deal with day-to-day, in our "real" lives. We certainly don't need to add more stress to the mix by trying to deal with people like you. I've had enough.
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sunriseparent wrote: I am who I say I am and what you present as facts are from a blog who detests Diane Douglas. I don't like her, but I sure don't detest her. For my support, you'll need to do better than this.
Thank you.
Fair enough.
I am not asking for your support, or for you to support others, including the blogger. But what I do suggest is opening your mind, follow the links he provides and then make up your own mind.
Have a great day.
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Paula,
Is this the same "he/she" who you claim has access to "insider" information from the school district?
Is this the same "he/she" whose identity you have consistently claimed to know, but have not revealed?
The same "he/she" who, when asked, you admitted you didn't know if they were ever in contact personally with governing board members?
Is this the same "he/she" who is on record as testifying before both the house and senate education committees twice in the last month?
Boy, for someone who doesn't exist, "he/she" sure gets around.
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Unless and until Michael Erickson shows up IN PERSON before the Board, and steps forward during public comment, and presents his ideas/solutions to this budget crisis, I will continue to believe he/she does NOT exist. I don't care if Peoria Dad and Michael are neighbors and Peoria Dad insists Michael is a "real person" (I actually believe they are probably one in the same, along with Apache Mom, Dana/Nada, and PUSD Teacher who continue to spew hateful venom on this forum). For certain posters to continue to provide the "nohoneymoon" link just adds fuel to the fire. Why doesn't "Michael" participate in this forum?? He/she has to have others post his/her comments for him/her? Bottom line: I challenge Mr/Mrs Erickson to show up at the next board meeting (I've made the challenge before and he/she has failed to magically appear---go figure) Face it folks: He/She is a figment of your imagination who only exists in cyberspace.
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I am who I say I am and what you present as facts are from a blog who detests Diane Douglas. I don't like her, but I sure don't detest her. For my support, you'll need to do better than this.
Thank you.
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No, the facts in the content, and the links to back them up are my proof.
And nice try, aynkm. We all know you're sunriseparent.
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Sunrise, here's a start for you:
http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com/2007/05/connecting-dots-and-detecting.html
http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com/2007/07/connecting-dots-ii-it-still-stinks-and.html
http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com/2007/11/connecting-dots-iii-pusd-employees-that.html
http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com/2008/01/connecting-dots-iv-that-smell-is-enough.html
http://nohoneymoon.blogspot.com/2009/01/connecting-dots-iv-that-nasty-smell-is.html
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| Sorry, one more thing and I will run out of here. Typical ostrich replies are not going to garner a lot of support for your cause. Give me something that I can hang my hat on. Otherwise, it appears you are just drumming up trouble.
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| typical ostrich
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I am by no means a Diane Douglas supporter, but isn't there any evidence anywhere that I could look at this conflict of interest charge? It is very easy to say what you say, Willy, but where's the beef in all of this? Why are you saying what you say? And also to be fair because I hate the baloney that is exhibited here on both sides, but wasn't Diane Douglas the board member who pushed for the 3 minute call to the public. Aren't you free to confront the board and present your evidence at any time?
I also think this teacher should be ashamed of herself. I am not going to respond here in any way as I have better things to do.
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Well I am back from my restful weekend and see that you all have been quite busy. As usual, aykmn has resorted to all kinds of name calling and completely ignores all of the issues. Frankly, it would be more interesting if the nothead could/would stick to the issues instead of trying to derail all of the questions. While some of you may have an idea who this person is, it's beginning to look more and more to me like this is no other than Diane herself! Who else would think Diane was intelligent, let alone brilliant?? Come on, admit it Diane, you are up to your eyeballs working for the "party", including Tom Boone. And if you were to look at who else is involved with VSIT you will find Carpenter, Bradley, Cantelme, and Maas, who is now working again for PUSD (after retiring)--what a kick in the pants to all the other retirees being let go---Maas is/was on the board of Deer Valley, and a part of the VSIT Management Team -- could there be any more conflicts in this whole mess? Oh my, the plot continues to thicken, and we're supposed to believe that the change to insurance is just a coincidence that is good for the employees of this district because Diane has done so much background work---plus she checked with her attorney(Contelme) about a conflict of interest! I feel so much better now, don't you?! PLEASE. Can she, or any board member for that matter-- remember it was a 5-0 vote-- tell you how the district's money will be invested; where; the return on investments; how satisfied other districts are with the coverage; how management leadership is paid, and who determines their salaries; how the management team is appointed and/or removed; how often they report to the districts they provide service for and when; and oh yeah, whether they get state retirement benefits or not--after all we know this is a big concern for Diane! How do employees appeal decisions and to whom? What happens if rates skyrocket--what recourse does the district have? And if the district ends up being dissatisfied, can they get their money back? While Diane purports in her letter to answer the questions on how she made her wise decision to move the district's insurance, she answers none of these questions. These are our tax dollars and I want to know a little bit more about the organization, and the people who manage the organization, that now has our millions. The nothead was always so concerned that the previous board, before Diane of course, was a rubber stamp and the hard questions were not being asked. Well look what we have now, and the nothead wants to give the current board a seal of approval for being congenial (with your tax dollars I might add) and for NOT asking the hard questions. How interesting is that!!! Frankly, I would like prefer to see a board with some intelligence and concern for the employees, students and patrons of this district, have some real discussion at board meetings. But of course that's what Diane does best, making sure we never have the real discussion, or the transparency she so loves to espouse.
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Dear Mr. Arnold (LIE -- that's not your name, coward),
Thank you for your questions. I appreciate the opportunity to address the blatant misinformation (LIE) which is being circulated. Hope you don’t mind if I answer both of your emails with one response! While I will gladly respond to your questions – I think it prudent to keep my comments and thoughts about the blog posting from the person identifying him/herself as “PUSD Teacher” to myself (LIE -- she knows who I am).
United Health Care is a nationwide network; meaning any employee needing medical care while out of state on vacation or a covered dependent (i.e. child attending school out of state) can be covered by an “in-network” provider anywhere in the country. The Blue Cross/Blue Shield network is a statewide (LIE) network therefore any care required while out of state is “out-of-network” care (LIE). Being self-insured, out-of-network care is costlier to the EBT and to the employee (LIE). I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe I was told the annual cost of out-of-network care to the EBT is approximately $1.5 million. This, of course, does not include the cost to the employee – rather than the co-pay the employee pays a percentage of the out-of-network charges (LIE). While “out-of-network” cost will probably not be eliminated completely it should be greatly reduced (LIE).
I DO NOT have a conflict of interest with the VSIT (LIE). As required, I have a disclosure statement on file at the district office (LIE in that it is incomplete -- a lie of omission if you will). I have no conflict of interest with any company or entity with which the district does business (LIE, as she proves when she contradicts herself it in the next sentence). I am a trustee on the Valley Schools Worker’s Compensation Board and the Valley Schools Liability Board. I was (re)appointed to these Boards by the PUSD Governing Board. I’ve been on the VSWC Board for several years. I was only recently appointed to the VSL Board to fill the seat vacated by Ms. Debra Raeder when she left the PUSD Gov. Brd. I serve on these Boards on behalf of PUSD in the administration (LIE) of the Liability and Worker’s Comp. Insurance pools. I have no personal interest, financial or otherwise, in either of these insurance pools (LIE) nor do I receive any remuneration for this service (LIE, because the renumerations are indirect). As my campaign finance reports clearly show, I have not taken any campaign contributions from VSIT or any of their top executives (or any VSIT employee for that matter) for either of my campaigns (these reports are on file with the Maricopa County Recorder’s Dept and available on that website) (LIE -- your are required to report contributions up to a fourth party, something she did not do in these reports, making this the THIRD state law in which she stands in violation). And although you haven’t asked, for the record, my husband does NOT now, nor has he ever, been an employee of UHC or Valley Schools . Since no conflict is involved, where he does work is, quite frankly, no one’s business (LIE -- it is very much our business, even if he does work for the State of Arizona) but ours. But, also for the record, I guess Mrs. Coury did “gotcha” me during the April 13th PUSD EBT meeting – alas, I am, in fact, a registered Republican.
As was clearly explained in multiple EBT and employee meetings, PUSD’s EBT is remaining intact (LIE -- and, once again, she contradicts herself in the next sentence). It is being rolled under the umbrella of a multi-district trust. PUSD’s funds will be used to purchase/pay for benefits for PUSD employees (HALF-TRUTH, it will also be used to pay benefits for employees in other school districts, and PUSD has NO control over where or how much). PUSD is a founding member of the Valley Schools Insurance Trust and the Valley Schools EBT. The Worker’s Comp and Liability pools have been saving the member districts (PUSD, Deer Valley and Paradise Valley (LIE -- in the exact same deal, PV appeared to save money in the first year only to see thier insurance cost go up by more than $4 million in the second year ) on WC and Liability insurance coverage since its inception. As a founding member, even though we withdrew from the VSEBT a few years ago, upon the District’s return we will regain our Board seats on the VSEBT. The relationship will be governed by an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA).
There is no doubt that when the PUSD EBT was formed 20 years ago (give or take) the self-insured trust concept was a cutting edge idea which saved the district a lot of money. However in today’s health care market it is evident that being a (relatively) small, single district trust is costing, rather than saving, the district money for the exact same coverage (LIE).
A la my former board colleague - perhaps a better question is: why would people who sit (or sat) on the PUSD EBT & Governing Boards, who are vested with looking out for the best interests of the District, the employees and the taxpayers, work so hard to keep all of the aforementioned from realizing millions of dollars of savings for so long (LIE)?
I believe I have answered all your questions (LIE) – if I missed any, please let me know. I appreciate the opportunity to dispel the rumors – although I very much doubt that “PUSD Teacher” will take my word for it. I have attached to this email my response to the employee emails that I received. I have also attached a Q&A information sheet about VSEBT and the cost savings options which were outlined for the EBT Board and the employees during multiple meetings. Information from the employee presentations is also available on the PUSD portal (click on “Departments” along the top menu; then under Support Services “Insurance Benefits;” finally under “Insurance Links” click “Benefit Employee Meeting Information”). If you have any additional questions about this or any other issue in the future – please don’t hesitate to contact me. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Diane
PS – Again, although you didn’t ask but “for the record,” the Board did not have a “choice” as some have stated. The Nobel Lease was a breach of contract and as such is NOT covered by insurance (LIE). There may be some choice out of which “fund” the settlement can be paid but it will be paid with district funds. Sad, but true (LIE). DMD
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Bye, bye Paula. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Dear Mr. Arnold (LIE -- that's not your name, coward),
Thank you for your questions. I appreciate the opportunity to address the blatant misinformation (LIE) which is being circulated. Hope you don’t mind if I answer both of your emails with one response! While I will gladly respond to your questions – I think it prudent to keep my comments and thoughts about the blog posting from the person identifying him/herself as “PUSD Teacher” to myself (LIE -- she knows who I am).
United Health Care is a nationwide network; meaning any employee needing medical care while out of state on vacation or a covered dependent (i.e. child attending school out of state) can be covered by an “in-network” provider anywhere in the country. The Blue Cross/Blue Shield network is a statewide (LIE) network therefore any care required while out of state is “out-of-network” care (LIE). Being self-insured, out-of-network care is costlier to the EBT and to the employee (LIE). I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe I was told the annual cost of out-of-network care to the EBT is approximately $1.5 million. This, of course, does not include the cost to the employee – rather than the co-pay the employee pays a percentage of the out-of-network charges (LIE). While “out-of-network” cost will probably not be eliminated completely it should be greatly reduced (LIE).
I DO NOT have a conflict of interest with the VSIT (LIE). As required, I have a disclosure statement on file at the district office (LIE in that it is incomplete -- a lie of omission if you will). I have no conflict of interest with any company or entity with which the district does business (LIE, as she proves when she contradicts herself it in the next sentence). I am a trustee on the Valley Schools Worker’s Compensation Board and the Valley Schools Liability Board. I was (re)appointed to these Boards by the PUSD Governing Board. I’ve been on the VSWC Board for several years. I was only recently appointed to the VSL Board to fill the seat vacated by Ms. Debra Raeder when she left the PUSD Gov. Brd. I serve on these Boards on behalf of PUSD in the administration (LIE) of the Liability and Worker’s Comp. Insurance pools. I have no personal interest, financial or otherwise, in either of these insurance pools (LIE) nor do I receive any remuneration for this service (LIE, because the renumerations are indirect). As my campaign finance reports clearly show, I have not taken any campaign contributions from VSIT or any of their top executives (or any VSIT employee for that matter) for either of my campaigns (these reports are on file with the Maricopa County Recorder’s Dept and available on that website) (LIE -- your are required to report contributions up to a fourth party, something she did not do in these reports, making this the THIRD state law in which she stands in violation). And although you haven’t asked, for the record, my husband does NOT now, nor has he ever, been an employee of UHC or Valley Schools . Since no conflict is involved, where he does work is, quite frankly, no one’s business (LIE -- it is very much our business, even if he does work for the State of Arizona) but ours. But, also for the record, I guess Mrs. Coury did “gotcha” me during the April 13th PUSD EBT meeting – alas, I am, in fact, a registered Republican.
As was clearly explained in multiple EBT and employee meetings, PUSD’s EBT is remaining intact (LIE -- and, once again, she contradicts herself in the next sentence). It is being rolled under the umbrella of a multi-district trust. PUSD’s funds will be used to purchase/pay for benefits for PUSD employees (HALF-TRUTH, it will also be used to pay benefits for employees in other school districts, and PUSD has NO control over where or how much). PUSD is a founding member of the Valley Schools Insurance Trust and the Valley Schools EBT. The Worker’s Comp and Liability pools have been saving the member districts (PUSD, Deer Valley and Paradise Valley (LIE -- in the exact same deal, PV appeared to save money in the first year only to see thier insurance cost go up by more than $4 million in the second year ) on WC and Liability insurance coverage since its inception. As a founding member, even though we withdrew from the VSEBT a few years ago, upon the District’s return we will regain our Board seats on the VSEBT. The relationship will be governed by an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA).
There is no doubt that when the PUSD EBT was formed 20 years ago (give or take) the self-insured trust concept was a cutting edge idea which saved the district a lot of money. However in today’s health care market it is evident that being a (relatively) small, single district trust is costing, rather than saving, the district money for the exact same coverage (LIE).
A la my former board colleague - perhaps a better question is: why would people who sit (or sat) on the PUSD EBT & Governing Boards, who are vested with looking out for the best interests of the District, the employees and the taxpayers, work so hard to keep all of the aforementioned from realizing millions of dollars of savings for so long (LIE)?
I believe I have answered all your questions (LIE) – if I missed any, please let me know. I appreciate the opportunity to dispel the rumors – although I very much doubt that “PUSD Teacher” will take my word for it. I have attached to this email my response to the employee emails that I received. I have also attached a Q&A information sheet about VSEBT and the cost savings options which were outlined for the EBT Board and the employees during multiple meetings. Information from the employee presentations is also available on the PUSD portal (click on “Departments” along the top menu; then under Support Services “Insurance Benefits;” finally under “Insurance Links” click “Benefit Employee Meeting Information”). If you have any additional questions about this or any other issue in the future – please don’t hesitate to contact me. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Diane
PS – Again, although you didn’t ask but “for the record,” the Board did not have a “choice” as some have stated. The Nobel Lease was a breach of contract and as such is NOT covered by insurance (LIE). There may be some choice out of which “fund” the settlement can be paid but it will be paid with district funds. Sad, but true (LIE). DMD
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Please keep re-posting your venom. It just makes the case clearer that you are full of hatred. Bye, gotta go take a shower now to wash you off.
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areyounotkidding me wrote: I'm going tp address one more thing and then get off this forum for good. I fully expect Frankie's (Jim40) letter to the corporate president (I obviously really touched a nerve with Frankie) to yield results and they will kick me off of here. I contemplated fighting it, but like Unhappy, my company is making big cuts and I may be on the way out and I have other worries now besides the district politics. You couldn't shut me up with logic and reason, so whatever it takes huh Frankster?
I will take all my "people" now.....come on gadfly, godfly, gad fly, justiceforall, justiceforallexcepttattletales, cheerleaderforclosers, areyoukiddingme, areyoukidding me,areyounotkidding me, parentofpusd. If I've forgotten any, please be kind to them.....
Want some cheese with that whine?
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Dear Mr. Arnold (LIE -- that's not your name, coward),
Thank you for your questions. I appreciate the opportunity to address the blatant misinformation (LIE) which is being circulated. Hope you don’t mind if I answer both of your emails with one response! While I will gladly respond to your questions – I think it prudent to keep my comments and thoughts about the blog posting from the person identifying him/herself as “PUSD Teacher” to myself (LIE -- she knows who I am).
United Health Care is a nationwide network; meaning any employee needing medical care while out of state on vacation or a covered dependent (i.e. child attending school out of state) can be covered by an “in-network” provider anywhere in the country. The Blue Cross/Blue Shield network is a statewide (LIE) network therefore any care required while out of state is “out-of-network” care (LIE). Being self-insured, out-of-network care is costlier to the EBT and to the employee (LIE). I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe I was told the annual cost of out-of-network care to the EBT is approximately $1.5 million. This, of course, does not include the cost to the employee – rather than the co-pay the employee pays a percentage of the out-of-network charges (LIE). While “out-of-network” cost will probably not be eliminated completely it should be greatly reduced (LIE).
I DO NOT have a conflict of interest with the VSIT (LIE). As required, I have a disclosure statement on file at the district office (LIE in that it is incomplete -- a lie of omission if you will). I have no conflict of interest with any company or entity with which the district does business (LIE, as she proves when she contradicts herself it in the next sentence). I am a trustee on the Valley Schools Worker’s Compensation Board and the Valley Schools Liability Board. I was (re)appointed to these Boards by the PUSD Governing Board. I’ve been on the VSWC Board for several years. I was only recently appointed to the VSL Board to fill the seat vacated by Ms. Debra Raeder when she left the PUSD Gov. Brd. I serve on these Boards on behalf of PUSD in the administration (LIE) of the Liability and Worker’s Comp. Insurance pools. I have no personal interest, financial or otherwise, in either of these insurance pools (LIE) nor do I receive any remuneration for this service (LIE, because the renumerations are indirect). As my campaign finance reports clearly show, I have not taken any campaign contributions from VSIT or any of their top executives (or any VSIT employee for that matter) for either of my campaigns (these reports are on file with the Maricopa County Recorder’s Dept and available on that website) (LIE -- your are required to report contributions up to a fourth party, something she did not do in these reports, making this the THIRD state law in which she stands in violation). And although you haven’t asked, for the record, my husband does NOT now, nor has he ever, been an employee of UHC or Valley Schools . Since no conflict is involved, where he does work is, quite frankly, no one’s business (LIE -- it is very much our business, even if he does work for the State of Arizona) but ours. But, also for the record, I guess Mrs. Coury did “gotcha” me during the April 13th PUSD EBT meeting – alas, I am, in fact, a registered Republican.
As was clearly explained in multiple EBT and employee meetings, PUSD’s EBT is remaining intact (LIE -- and, once again, she contradicts herself in the next sentence). It is being rolled under the umbrella of a multi-district trust. PUSD’s funds will be used to purchase/pay for benefits for PUSD employees (HALF-TRUTH, it will also be used to pay benefits for employees in other school districts, and PUSD has NO control over where or how much). PUSD is a founding member of the Valley Schools Insurance Trust and the Valley Schools EBT. The Worker’s Comp and Liability pools have been saving the member districts (PUSD, Deer Valley and Paradise Valley (LIE -- in the exact same deal, PV appeared to save money in the first year only to see thier insurance cost go up by more than $4 million in the second year ) on WC and Liability insurance coverage since its inception. As a founding member, even though we withdrew from the VSEBT a few years ago, upon the District’s return we will regain our Board seats on the VSEBT. The relationship will be governed by an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA).
There is no doubt that when the PUSD EBT was formed 20 years ago (give or take) the self-insured trust concept was a cutting edge idea which saved the district a lot of money. However in today’s health care market it is evident that being a (relatively) small, single district trust is costing, rather than saving, the district money for the exact same coverage (LIE).
A la my former board colleague - perhaps a better question is: why would people who sit (or sat) on the PUSD EBT & Governing Boards, who are vested with looking out for the best interests of the District, the employees and the taxpayers, work so hard to keep all of the aforementioned from realizing millions of dollars of savings for so long (LIE)?
I believe I have answered all your questions (LIE) – if I missed any, please let me know. I appreciate the opportunity to dispel the rumors – although I very much doubt that “PUSD Teacher” will take my word for it. I have attached to this email my response to the employee emails that I received. I have also attached a Q&A information sheet about VSEBT and the cost savings options which were outlined for the EBT Board and the employees during multiple meetings. Information from the employee presentations is also available on the PUSD portal (click on “Departments” along the top menu; then under Support Services “Insurance Benefits;” finally under “Insurance Links” click “Benefit Employee Meeting Information”). If you have any additional questions about this or any other issue in the future – please don’t hesitate to contact me. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Diane
PS – Again, although you didn’t ask but “for the record,” the Board did not have a “choice” as some have stated. The Nobel Lease was a breach of contract and as such is NOT covered by insurance (LIE). There may be some choice out of which “fund” the settlement can be paid but it will be paid with district funds. Sad, but true (LIE). DMD
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Well you know, Paula, I'll go as soon as you do.
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Seriously, Teacher, you should consider getting some mental help immediately. And if you really are a teacher, which I doubt, give it up to one of the 300 REAL teachers who were laid off and who are not consumed by bitterness and a sour heart as you are, qualities which are bound to rub off on children because they ooze out of your pores.
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Dear Mr. Arnold (LIE -- that's not your name, coward),
Thank you for your questions. I appreciate the opportunity to address the blatant misinformation (LIE) which is being circulated. Hope you don’t mind if I answer both of your emails with one response! While I will gladly respond to your questions – I think it prudent to keep my comments and thoughts about the blog posting from the person identifying him/herself as “PUSD Teacher” to myself (LIE -- she knows who I am).
United Health Care is a nationwide network; meaning any employee needing medical care while out of state on vacation or a covered dependent (i.e. child attending school out of state) can be covered by an “in-network” provider anywhere in the country. The Blue Cross/Blue Shield network is a statewide (LIE) network therefore any care required while out of state is “out-of-network” care (LIE). Being self-insured, out-of-network care is costlier to the EBT and to the employee (LIE). I may be remembering incorrectly but I believe I was told the annual cost of out-of-network care to the EBT is approximately $1.5 million. This, of course, does not include the cost to the employee – rather than the co-pay the employee pays a percentage of the out-of-network charges (LIE). While “out-of-network” cost will probably not be eliminated completely it should be greatly reduced (LIE).
I DO NOT have a conflict of interest with the VSIT (LIE). As required, I have a disclosure statement on file at the district office (LIE in that it is incomplete -- a lie of omission if you will). I have no conflict of interest with any company or entity with which the district does business (LIE, as she proves when she contradicts herself it in the next sentence). I am a trustee on the Valley Schools Worker’s Compensation Board and the Valley Schools Liability Board. I was (re)appointed to these Boards by the PUSD Governing Board. I’ve been on the VSWC Board for several years. I was only recently appointed to the VSL Board to fill the seat vacated by Ms. Debra Raeder when she left the PUSD Gov. Brd. I serve on these Boards on behalf of PUSD in the administration (LIE) of the Liability and Worker’s Comp. Insurance pools. I have no personal interest, financial or otherwise, in either of these insurance pools (LIE) nor do I receive any remuneration for this service (LIE, because the renumerations are indirect). As my campaign finance reports clearly show, I have not taken any campaign contributions from VSIT or any of their top executives (or any VSIT employee for that matter) for either of my campaigns (these reports are on file with the Maricopa County Recorder’s Dept and available on that website) (LIE -- your are required to report contributions up to a fourth party, something she did not do in these reports, making this the THIRD state law in which she stands in violation). And although you haven’t asked, for the record, my husband does NOT now, nor has he ever, been an employee of UHC or Valley Schools . Since no conflict is involved, where he does work is, quite frankly, no one’s business (LIE -- it is very much our business, even if he does work for the State of Arizona) but ours. But, also for the record, I guess Mrs. Coury did “gotcha” me during the April 13th PUSD EBT meeting – alas, I am, in fact, a registered Republican.
As was clearly explained in multiple EBT and employee meetings, PUSD’s EBT is remaining intact (LIE -- and, once again, she contradicts herself in the next sentence). It is being rolled under the umbrella of a multi-district trust. PUSD’s funds will be used to purchase/pay for benefits for PUSD employees (HALF-TRUTH, it will also be used to pay benefits for employees in other school districts, and PUSD has NO control over where or how much). PUSD is a founding member of the Valley Schools Insurance Trust and the Valley Schools EBT. The Worker’s Comp and Liability pools have been saving the member districts (PUSD, Deer Valley and Paradise Valley (LIE -- in the exact same deal, PV appeared to save money in the first year only to see thier insurance cost go up by more than $4 million in the second year ) on WC and Liability insurance coverage since its inception. As a founding member, even though we withdrew from the VSEBT a few years ago, upon the District’s return we will regain our Board seats on the VSEBT. The relationship will be governed by an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA).
There is no doubt that when the PUSD EBT was formed 20 years ago (give or take) the self-insured trust concept was a cutting edge idea which saved the district a lot of money. However in today’s health care market it is evident that being a (relatively) small, single district trust is costing, rather than saving, the district money for the exact same coverage (LIE).
A la my former board colleague - perhaps a better question is: why would people who sit (or sat) on the PUSD EBT & Governing Boards, who are vested with looking out for the best interests of the District, the employees and the taxpayers, work so hard to keep all of the aforementioned from realizing millions of dollars of savings for so long (LIE)?
I believe I have answered all your questions (LIE) – if I missed any, please let me know. I appreciate the opportunity to dispel the rumors – although I very much doubt that “PUSD Teacher” will take my word for it. I have attached to this email my response to the employee emails that I received. I have also attached a Q&A information sheet about VSEBT and the cost savings options which were outlined for the EBT Board and the employees during multiple meetings. Information from the employee presentations is also available on the PUSD portal (click on “Departments” along the top menu; then under Support Services “Insurance Benefits;” finally under “Insurance Links” click “Benefit Employee Meeting Information”). If you have any additional questions about this or any other issue in the future – please don’t hesitate to contact me. I hope this helps!
Sincerely,
Diane
PS – Again, although you didn’t ask but “for the record,” the Board did not have a “choice” as some have stated. The Nobel Lease was a breach of contract and as such is NOT covered by insurance (LIE). There may be some choice out of which “fund” the settlement can be paid but it will be paid with district funds. Sad, but true (LIE). DMD
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Unhappy will most definitely be unhappy if AYNKM is kicked off this forum. What happened to our First Amendment rights? All I can say to you, AYNKM, is you have been the one voice of reason on this forum, and you've definitely put a few of the other posters in their place (and rightly so!!)
So, let me get this straight: It's OK for PUSD Teacher a/k/a Dana to spew hatred and venom on this forum, and he/she gets away with it because he/she is in "Michael's" and "Frankie's" circle of friends [you know - the good ol' boy network of days gone by in the good ol' PUSD? Shame on Mrs. Douglas for asking questions and breaking up that little circle of friends!) In any event, simply because AYNKM has a different opinion, he/she gets kicked off this forum? Well--- all I can say to that is welcome to the Obama Nation. Censorship at its best. Scary times indeed. God help us all.
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Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 04:53 pm |
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I'm going tp address one more thing and then get off this forum for good. I fully expect Frankie's (Jim40) letter to the corporate president (I obviously really touched a nerve with Frankie) to yield results and they will kick me off of here. I contemplated fighting it, but like Unhappy, my company is making big cuts and I may be on the way out and I have other worries now besides the district politics. You couldn't shut me up with logic and reason, so whatever it takes huh Frankster?
I will take all my "people" now.....come on gadfly, godfly, gad fly, justiceforall, justiceforallexcepttattletales, cheerleaderforclosers, areyoukiddingme, areyoukidding me,areyounotkidding me, parentofpusd. If I've forgotten any, please be kind to them.....
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Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 03:41 pm |
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Kidding, you should run a poll. I vote for Ms. Hammon, definitely.
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Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 03:28 pm |
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Which one of these teachers do you want in front of your kids? There is something terribly wrong in this tenure system, there can be no doubt......
My name is Sandie Hammon and I am a teacher in the Peoria Unified School District. This is my second year in the district. I formally was in the Washington Elementary School District where I started my career as a teacher assistant and then went on to be an Elementary teacher.
The students love coming and some even hate when the weekend comes because there is no school. Imagine that! Please do not take that away from them. I love my job! I love making these kids see that they are someone special and they can do whatever they want to succeed and I will do whatever it takes for them to succeed because God blessed me with this gift “teaching”. Please do the same. Do whatever it takes for them. We are a team and we can do what we put our minds to do! Please help us save education in Arizona. Our kids need to be in a class size that meets their needs not ours, we need to provide more money to educate not to incarcerate and we need to keep teacher like myself who honestly want only the best for our students.
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And everything I have stated is fact. What's really aggravating you is that your idol Diane Douglas gave a gift of over $20 million to her friends, and did it while you were looking at the glowing object in corner.
Let me educate you. Over $20 million was what was left in the Employee Benefit Trust reserves. VSIT required the district hand over that money before hooking up PUSD to an insurance plan that is less than what PUSD employees have today. VSIT can spend that money in any way they see fit, and is under NO obligation to spend it to benefit PUSD or its employees.
You catching on yet, dummy?
To make matters worst, ALL of the top executives of the VSIT contributed to both her campaigns. Even a dim bulb like you can figure out that this is, at the very least, a $20 million conflict of interest.
She pulled this off under you nose and had made you look more foolish than you already are. You are, indeed, a lemming.
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Posted: Mon Apr 27th, 2009 06:04 am |
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PUSD Teacher - I think it's beyond time for you to consider retirement or relocate to another school district (how about joining your "retired" PUSD colleagues in Dysart?)
I applaud Mrs. Douglas for her service to the District. God only knows why she would want to deal with the likes of you, PUSD Teacher. From everything I've read, it seems to me the new insurance program is actually going to afford better benefits to the employees, and save the district a lot of money. That's a good thing.
Has anyone asked this question: Does PUSD Teacher have something to gain (financially) if insurance remained status quo (i.e., spouse employed by Blue Cross?) It certainly begs the question because he/she rants and complains about the new insurance benefits, rather than simply being grateful to have insurance coverage (and a JOB) in the first place. I can assure you, PUSD Teacher, any one of those hundreds of PUSD teachers who rec'd pink slips would trade places with you in a heartbeat, so why don't you just stop complaining about the fact that you have health insurance coverage (and a JOB). Give it up, and just be grateful for what you have (and God help the students who are under your tutelage because you really have a nasty, mean-spirited attitude).
One final question for PUSD Teacher: What were you doing all day Thursday (4/23/09)? You certainly were not teaching. If you were on the District's clock on Thursday, (and - as you said in a previous post - Mrs. Douglas knows who you are) well, I think your a** is grass. See ya!
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Posted: Sun Apr 26th, 2009 03:45 pm |
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OK PUSD, this is what Joe McCarthy used to do. We know you're a member of the Communist party. Prove to us that you are not.....
Diane Douglas, we know you took campaign contributions from VSIT board members. Prove to us that you did not.
You see, PUSD, that's not the way America is supposed to work. See, the person throwing out the very serious allegations that the board president took campaign contributions and did not report them needs to back up that allegation with evidence. I have seen nothing of that ilk at all. You must have something for you to state this and we would all be very interested to hear them.
And PUSD, you epitomize what Diane Douglas is up against. You have probably been in this district since you got out of college and the district has been this nice little cozy club where nothing was ever questioned very strenously. Jack Erb had these boards in his back pocket and he kind of could do pretty much anything he wanted. Douglas came into power and started questioning how things are done and the members of this cozy club don't like their little club threatened and you will do anything and say anything to fight back, based on facts or not.
You are also what's wrong with the tenure system that is in place now. In any other business, you would be in the big office where the board meets and you better d**n well be able to back up what you are saying here with hard concrete evidence or you can kiss your ass goodbye. Instead, you are able to make these unfounded charges and can really be a half-assed teacher knowing the system can't do a thing to you. There is no doubt in my mind your very sour atttitude transfers into your classroom.
I remember when the board members first started talking about this VSIT. I admittedly knew very little about it, but I was struck at the immediate opposition to it without these people hearing anything about it. It seems that that is the credo of this little cult we have in this district. We've always done it that way, why do we need to change anything?
And Diane Douglas, I know you don't hear this enough, but thank you. For you to be able to withstand what must be intense pressure from the PUSDs of the district, well, I don't know how you do it. It really is difficult to argue with idiots who don't base opinions on any type of fact pattern. I keep thinking there must be something about you that makes people dislike you so intensely and keep waiting for some type of hard evidence that you are this corrupt politician, but all I get is rumor and innuendo. The more I deal with these people on this little forum, I am convinced they just don't want anything to change and so resent when you question what has been done for years. And, if they can't attack the message with fact and evidence, they resort to attacking the messenger.
So, again, thank you for your service and please keep it up. I think there are a lot more people out there than you realize who understand what you are up against and truly appreciate the great job you are doing.
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