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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 05:51 pm |
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Anne, you still haven't answered my question......... WHEN ARE THE ELCTIONS?
I love what I read on GSTAC web site regarding yous and Eds district. noise ordinace. You could not get this done through the courts, so why now are you using this waste of a group; GSTAC to try to accomplish this? Is this what the whole district 1 wants, or is this what Anne and Ed want? Not trying to push your agenda through are you without consulting the district?
Answer the question.......... WHEN ARE THE ELECTIONS ?
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 03:24 pm |
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Have you looked into Central Arizona College? They're planning a small campus in Copper Basin.
Regards,
Anne
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I wish teachers made more money...I'd get another MA in US History and teach civics but I can't afford a teachers salary!
I am looking to teach at the community college level though. In about 3 years I'll have a BA in Organizational Management and Biology (I've already got that) , an MBA (1/3 of the way done), and an MA in U.S. History (just for fun).
Not smarter..just over-educated and in debt! 
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 06:06 pm |
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DWG wrote: Ooops, I posted under my husband's account. This is GG. 
Thanks Bambi.
The Storm Child is up in Montana with her paternal grandparents. Every summer they do a traveling vacation bible school and SC does the puppet show and songs for the preschool aged children. SC comes back at the end of July.
I would like to take SC to one of these meetings. This last school year we studied the Constitution and Civics and I would like for her to witness a real life application of her studies. Thank you for the invite.
Have a safe trip and we'll catch up when you get back.
Then we will plan on our children being our voices..... at least they can't be sued. And yes, it will prove to be an excellent lesson in Civics. School begins next week. I will approach the civics teachers around here and the parents and propose a lesson in Civics....true to life. What a grand way to learn. We can use webcams to convey the messages back and forth. I can't wait. Back to Teaching. I love it.
See ya when you get back GG.
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Haven't heard a word from GSTAC or Gordon. So, I will approach the ADEQ myself and try to solve my problem and help find some direction for the rest of the community out here. The ACC gave me a good contact and I will do my best for all of us. Anyone of likemind is welcome.
I am leaving town for a few days, but I will be using the phone to accomplish my goals and will set up appointments.
GSTAC is no longer a viable venue for me, as no communication exists, other than between themselves. This does not apply to GG or other innocent members, who are indeed, doing their best to achieve harmony within their area. Kudos to them. GG: you are welcome to come with me when you return, and bring the "Storm Child" with you. We'll let her and my grandson ask some questions of our government. Then you can go back to your "district" and educate those neighbors. Remember that if we incorporate, we still want these districts, so now we'll just use them as boundaries for our "districts." Once we get rolling, we'll ask Jack M. to hop on board this train and come along with us. Once away from Gordon, his true colors will show, as he is indeed a great leader.
This is going to be a learning curve for me......and at 65, I'm still learning...WOW. I took my grandson to the last meeting with the ACC, so he can learn first hand what govenment is all about. I will take him with me to the ADEQ for another lesson. After all, he is one of our future leaders, and first hand experience is a great teacher.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 01:42 am |
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anne.reed wrote: JJohnson wrote:
Anne,
Will this information be made available before it all gets swept down stream from the spill site? Once the enviromental impact is mitigated by mother nature will George Johnson and Johnson Utilities be off the hook with GSTAC? How much is GSTAC willing to stand up to one of their own "core members"? It will take courage to do this and we will be watching. Any softball pitches will be noted and exposed for what they are. The credibility of GSTAC is really on the line here. Anything less than a quick full court press will be viewed as weakness and being in bed with the enemy.
Also can you please detail what work has been done to date so we know where this stands currently. Remember who you represent.
Dear JJ:
The fact that existing communications between JU and certain homeowners have been relegated to attorneys, limits everyone's capacity to resolve the issue.
GSTAC is working behind the scenes to determine what can be done to protect residents and to insure that incidents like this will be averted in the future. As facts become available, public meetings will be held to inform interested parties of the status.
Regards,
Anne
I sent Gordon Brown an email today asking if he would like to pursue, with me, the resolution of this problem about the spillage and J.U. performance with ADEQ. This is an opportunity for GSTAC to help me, as a resident, and help the rest of the community. You state your working behind the scenes. Gordon can take me to whomever he has been working with then. May end up being the same guy.
It's July 18th. D-Day for me with GSTAC, as per my previous post. Let us see if he, not anyone else, but G.B. answers my email. Now I know that someone from here will quickly forward this to him, as is the custom as he has attested to, so I should be hearing from him soon. Here's a copy of the email....just for the records. I had already asked him in person two days ago. He has never offered help. None of them.
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"Bambi Sandquist" <bambisteam1@yahoo.com
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XXXXXXXXXXX (Gordon's email)
Good morning. I received a contact at ADEQ to go over this Johnson Utility "stuff". Would you like to join me in this meeting?
Thank You,
Bambi Sandquist
Cell: 602-339-7653
Fax: 480-393-4975
BambisTeam1@yahoo.com
http://www.BambisTeam.com
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 12:50 am |
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What I would really like to see is our own local elected government representing our community. That, to me, is the goal.
That is why I say use whatever medium that you can to make our voices heard loud and clear. Again, we need to organize and have structure.
And with the upcoming elections, we have a lot at stake. I very much wish for this to be a community of excellence, not one of disorder and passivity.
*No need to offer an apology Starleen, I did not take offense to your post. I appreciate your dedication to our community and your willingness to speak honestly and freely. It is a quality that is much needed in this area.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 12:38 am |
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pipeman wrote: ok people, no need to personally attack GG.
I apologize to GG if my post came off that way; it was not meant as a personal attack in any way. GG, I admire you a great deal for being active in your community and on this forum. It takes a lot of courage to stand up publicly for what you believe in and against what you know is wrong. I just think your efforts on behalf of GSTAC are futile, and if you live in an HOA you might get a "bigger soapbox" from an established, working, upfront organization rather than one that just looks good on paper.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 12:20 am |
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That would be a good scenario.
But I still want to see more people involved in our community whether they use GSTAC or not.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 10:40 pm |
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GG wrote: I'm still a bit loopy from missing a good night's sleep, but I'll try:
GSTAC divided this area up into 9 different districts.
http://www.ourgstac.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=69
In these districts, the are an estimated 40k+ people living in the area. Out of this 40k+ population, only 30 people showed up at the last meeting in May. That is a very small percentage of the population. Districts 7 &9 still don't even have a rep. How are developers, utility companies, elected officials, and commerce going to hear what people want when nobody is talking in a constructive manner?
Many more people are needed. Nothing is going to happen with GSTAC or any other future group if we don't organize and make our voices heard. Until we have some sort of platform to stand on, we're sitting ducks for the unscrupulous out here.
Even if you don't want anything to do with GSTAC, get involved and get active in your community. Important elections are just around the corner. Donate your time to the candidate of your choice. Stay involved locally with schools, houses of worship, HOAs, Block Watch programs, etc. There's so much work out here to do and everybody is needed.
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GG, I know you want more people involved, but in reality that isn't going to happen. Not with those sitting on the core and many of those on the extended teams as well. I have asked Anne, but of course it did not happen nor will it happen. Now I am asking you to take back to GSTAC that we "the community" want elections held ASAP so we can vote those we want into those positions. No more hand holding, back slapping, good ole boy posse. We want elections and we want them now. Until this happens, there will be no support. Hopefully through elections you and your hubby will be voted back in, becuase you have the willingness and desire to make changes.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 10:38 pm |
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Yes, please do become active. Send emails, get your communities to gather up petitions to demand accountability, demad represenation for your taxes, demand schools that excel, demand a well planned community.
Send emails to elected officials, email the media, email GSTAC and especially the core members, contact everybody under the sun that you can think of.
GO!
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 10:34 pm |
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gsbill wrote: GG. A GSTAC member presented out town council with a petition that had 400 signatures on it. Anne & Gordon know how to get things done and how to motivate people. A few more challenges taken on by GSTAC will get you those needed volunteers.
GS, this may be true but the out of town council should really look at the signatures to make sure they are legit and they live in the area in question. Remember the J- Curve petition that had all but one bogus signature. These are the silly little games they play.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 10:29 pm |
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starleen wrote: Behind the scenes, right.
Can we all stop pretending that GSTAC is a community organization and say out loud that it is a front, a puppet for people already in positions of power to use as a tool to manipulate both residents and local goverments to their will? The website hasn't hardly changed since day one. There are no meetings on the calendar. There are no minutes from meetings. There are no press releases on positions. GG says she is a member but she is a volunteer and not elected and obviously is not involved the "behind the scenes work" of GSTAC since she has expressed her frustration with her tiny soapbox. GG, you are being used. This spill happened a couple months ago, after GSTAC was announced to the world, and GSTAC has done nothing. The HOA's and concerned residents are the only ones working this for the community. Ms Reed, you a master of spin and doing a fine job for the coalition.
(GG, just read your comment - the coalition hopes we will take it with a grain of salt - apathy of the residents is a source of power. Evil triumphing, good men doing nothing, that sort of thing.)
ok people, no need to personally attack GG. GG has her heart in the right place and is NOT one of the evil ones like others who post on here. Someone said it correctly. GG does not know what is going on behind the scenes, so get off her back. She is doing what she feels is right.
Wether there are attorneys involved or not, GSTAC will not do a darn thing about the spill. How can they when the top two dogs from JU are on the core team. Bit of conflicting interests, as it is with developers sitting on there. Better that anyone is sitting on the core and even the extended teams that were not voted in. (nothing personal GG, as said, I know you are doing what you can).
We comunity members need to email GSTAC daily and request elections be held immediately. It is supposed to be for us, then let us elect and run it. It will NEVER happen because those there do not and will not give up the power they so desire. This is the reason why everyone needs to step up ans speak out that we do NOT want them speaking for us, having meetings regarding us, etc.. Then we need to come together and start the incorporation process. This is the only way things are going to get accomplished and without the secrecy and it will be done by the voice of the people.
The time is now to get off the pot and get the ball rolling. We will NEVER get anywhere under GSTAC playing their silly little games.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 10:12 pm |
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- Superstition Views
- Bella Vista
- Bella Vista Farms
- RV Park
- Skyline Estates
- Copper Basin
- Quail Run
The developments above are District 6
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If GSTAC wants community support the way the have claimed then all the current leaders and board members would step down and then GSTAC would hold an election.
That is how things work in this country. I was appointed as a Precinct Committeeman for Copper Basin and I went about that through the channels put in place by the govn't. There is nothing wrong with GSTAC but I just don't know enough about them and most of what I've heard is controversial.
Who is the "representative" for Copper Basin anyway?
Keep in mind that I don't think GSTAC is a bad thing-I actually think it is a great thing. But there are just too many unanswered questions.
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I live in MSF and we won't have our HOA turned over to the homeowners until we're at 70% build out. We will not have control over our HOA anytime soon, so for now we have an HOA that works for the developer, not the homeowner. No local control for my community here. A lot of other developments out here are either in the same boat or they are very recent in taking over their HOA. I'd probably have better luck with a Block Watch program. At least a measure of control at the local level can be found.
I've lived in Pinal county for four years and the only official to respond to me was a traffic engineer that was decent and stayed in touch with me while I petitioned to have speed cushions placed on my street. (Another story altogether and a good example of why we need more local control). Two years ago one of my children attended the Leading Edge charter school on Hunt and not once did I hear an answer from any official with regard to at least putting a school zone sign in front of the charter school and perhaps lowering the speed limit to 35 during school hours. Never heard a word. I do not feel that I am represented by my elected officials. If I were, I would not be here trying to do something to obtain representation.
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sajuarojack wrote: GSTAC is the only game in town right now, but what is stopping people from starting a new coalition made up of community homeowners?
GSTAC is not the only "game in town."
Chris Clark was organizing a coalition of HOA's.
And what about your already elected representation at Pinal County? How about making them do their jobs?
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GG wrote:
Sounds good to me.
I feel like I've been paddling against the current and I'm getting tired.
I know the feeling. Keep at it. You will see your work pay off now and then.
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Sounds good to me.
I feel like I've been paddling against the current and I'm getting tired.
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| GG. A GSTAC member presented out town council with a petition that had 400 signatures on it. Anne & Gordon know how to get things done and how to motivate people. A few more challenges taken on by GSTAC will get you those needed volunteers.
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I'm still a bit loopy from missing a good night's sleep, but I'll try:
GSTAC divided this area up into 9 different districts.
http://www.ourgstac.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=69
In these districts, the are an estimated 40k+ people living in the area. Out of this 40k+ population, only 30 people showed up at the last meeting in May. That is a very small percentage of the population. Districts 7 &9 still don't even have a rep. How are developers, utility companies, elected officials, and commerce going to hear what people want when nobody is talking in a constructive manner?
Many more people are needed. Nothing is going to happen with GSTAC or any other future group if we don't organize and make our voices heard. Until we have some sort of platform to stand on, we're sitting ducks for the unscrupulous out here.
Even if you don't want anything to do with GSTAC, get involved and get active in your community. Important elections are just around the corner. Donate your time to the candidate of your choice. Stay involved locally with schools, houses of worship, HOAs, Block Watch programs, etc. There's so much work out here to do and everybody is needed.
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Anne..GSTAC can easily make public comments regarding JU latest spills and "leaks". GSTAC can also tale a stand regarding the lawsuits filed against your neighbors. Something like that will go a long way in gaining your group recognition and respect.
You know what to do and how to do it. Are you guys afraid of being sued by JU if you speak out?
Perhaps pressure by 100's of residents can bring about change quicker than hoping our government does something.
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| I am not looking to re-invent the wheel on this. I am merely trying to change a flat tire and get a new driver behind the wheel. As it is now we don't know what color the car is or size rims are used so we can make an informed decision
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GSTAC is the only game in town right now, but what is stopping people from starting a new coalition made up of community homeowners?
Everything starts from scratch, and just because the GSTAC has connections and knowledge doesn't mean a new coalition could not acquire the same within a timeframe that would allow the right kind of changes that the people need and want.
Or is there something I don't know that makes a new coalition impossible?
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anne.reed wrote: At this point, with attorney's involved, none of the parties have requested public input. It is a private matter.
We can do research to gain knowledge and make suggestions that support resolution, just as you can, but ultimately, the parties and their council will make the call.
Regards,
Anne
Maybe you are misunderstanding. I feel for Bambi and what she is going through but I am not asking GSTAC to interveen and get involved. I want to know what the GSTAC is doing about the spill and the health/welfare of the residents and customers of Johnson Utilities. What is the GSTAC planning to do? What is the stance of the GSTAC on this issue? Has George Johnson been suspended from his "core member" status of the GSTAC?
These are basic questions that should be answered honestly and easily. Just tell us if the answer is nothing and we will make decisions from there. If the GSTAC has done something tell us what it is.
Why is this so difficult? The GSTAC is not under a court order to keep quiet is it? Is the GSTAC serving the residents or Johnson Utilities?
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JJohnson wrote:
anne.reed wrote: As potential solutions are recognized they will be proposed to the people for their "yea" or "nay". Until then, it would just be more idle chatter.
You may call it idle chatter but I would like to call it public input and debate. Is that not what the GSTAC wants?
At this point, with attorney's involved, none of the parties have requested public input. It is a private matter.
We can do research to gain knowledge and make suggestions that support resolution, just as you can, but ultimately, the parties and their council will make the call.
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anne.reed wrote: As potential solutions are recognized they will be proposed to the people for their "yea" or "nay". Until then, it would just be more idle chatter.
You may call it idle chatter but I would like to call it public input and debate. Is that not what the GSTAC wants?
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anne.reed wrote: MurphysLaw wrote:
starleen wrote: Behind the scenes, right.
Yes, behind the scenes and completely and totally unrelated to GSTAC.
You missed the important part of the message. Attorneys are involved and resolution is complicated by potential litigation.
As potential solutions are recognized they will be proposed to the people for their "yea" or "nay". Until then, it would just be more idle chatter. If you feel you have solutions, PLEASE, bring them to my attention or to any member of GSTAC.
Thank you,
Anne Reed
If the GSTAC is involved in litigation then please let us know. If it is not then GSTAC is not kept from acting on our behalf. Let's start with the corporation commission. What has the GSTAC done on our behalf with that government agency? Has GSTAC lobbied for a rate freeze or reduction until the infrastructure is brought up and indpendently cerified? Has the GSTAC contacted the EPA on our behalf and requested that independent monitor be placed at JU at George's expense?
Come to think of it what HAS GSTAC done on our behalf on this issue? Who has been contacted and what is the GSTAC's goal in resolution? Let us know now what the goal is and we can tell you if the community would be satisfied or not. You should be taking direction from the community not the other way around.
I woud also recomend suspending George's position as a "Core Member" until this is 100% resolved.
You wanted solutions. Here they are what are you going to do with them now?
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anne.reed wrote: MurphysLaw wrote:
starleen wrote: Behind the scenes, right.
Yes, behind the scenes and completely and totally unrelated to GSTAC.
You missed the important part of the message. Attorneys are involved and resolution is complicated by potential litigation.
As potential solutions are recognized they will be proposed to the people for their "yea" or "nay". Until then, it would just be more idle chatter. If you feel you have solutions, PLEASE, bring them to my attention or to any member of GSTAC.
Thank you,
Anne Reed
No thank you. I'd rather not be involved with anything related to GSTAC at this point. There's already a conflict of interest with a few of the core members, IMO. Plus, the more people making waves about this issue, the better.
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I'd like to pick up this topic up again sometime later. I am glad to see open discussion and debate with regard to GSTAC and other issues in our community. We certainly need more open communication out here.
I've been up most of the night with a sick child and it's time for us both to settle down for a nap.
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MurphysLaw wrote:
starleen wrote: Behind the scenes, right.
Yes, behind the scenes and completely and totally unrelated to GSTAC.
You missed the important part of the message. Attorneys are involved and resolution is complicated by potential litigation.
As potential solutions are recognized they will be proposed to the people for their "yea" or "nay". Until then, it would just be more idle chatter. If you feel you have solutions, PLEASE, bring them to my attention or to any member of GSTAC.
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starleen wrote: Behind the scenes, right.
Yes, behind the scenes and completely and totally unrelated to GSTAC.
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I don't feel as if I'm being used. I'm trying to do the best I can for my community and nothing more. There's not a wealth of options out here, unfortunately. We are desperately lacking in structure and order.
If the leadership for GSTAC is not sound, then it will not stand the test of time. If there is intentional deceit, it will be found out.
In the meantime, I don't see another viable way to have any positive impact for my neighborhood. If I fall flat on my face because GSTAC turns out to be corrupt and non-viable, then I'll take my lumps and pick myself up off the floor.
And everybody can say "I told you so" with no hard feelings on my part. 
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GG wrote: Take it with a grain of salt.
A lot of responsible, decent residents who are not affliated with GSTAC are also doing what they can with regard to securing clean water and a clean environment.
Oh NO!!!!!! With the history of your leaders I must know what they are doing on my behalf. They are acting in secret and that is wrong. They need to tell us what they are doing and when they are doing these things. Perhaps Gordon needs to start his own blog to chronical what his unelected position is doing. If Gordon cuts a del with fellow core steam member then I want to know what it is before it being implimented so we can debate whether it is in the best interest of this community. That is the problem with having special interest group in higher position of authority than the groups constiuents. It is a blantent conflict of interest.
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Behind the scenes, right.
Can we all stop pretending that GSTAC is a community organization and say out loud that it is a front, a puppet for people already in positions of power to use as a tool to manipulate both residents and local goverments to their will? The website hasn't hardly changed since day one. There are no meetings on the calendar. There are no minutes from meetings. There are no press releases on positions. GG says she is a member but she is a volunteer and not elected and obviously is not involved the "behind the scenes work" of GSTAC since she has expressed her frustration with her tiny soapbox. GG, you are being used. This spill happened a couple months ago, after GSTAC was announced to the world, and GSTAC has done nothing. The HOA's and concerned residents are the only ones working this for the community. Ms Reed, you a master of spin and doing a fine job for the coalition.
(GG, just read your comment - the coalition hopes we will take it with a grain of salt - apathy of the residents is a source of power. Evil triumphing, good men doing nothing, that sort of thing.)
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Take it with a grain of salt.
A lot of responsible, decent residents who are not affliated with GSTAC are also doing what they can with regard to securing clean water and a clean environment.
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anne.reed wrote: GSTAC is working behind the scenes...
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anne.reed wrote: Dear JJ:
The fact that existing communications between JU and certain homeowners have been relegated to attorneys, limits everyone's capacity to resolve the issue.
GSTAC is working behind the scenes to determine what can be done to protect residents and to insure that incidents like this will be averted in the future. As facts become available, public meetings will be held to inform interested parties of the status.
Regards,
Anne
As tragic as Bambi's situation is that is a matter that I am not personally concerned with right now. What I am specifically concerned with is what GSTAC is doing "behind the scenes". This should not be a secret as you claim that you represent us. The GSTAC should be telling us what their strategy is and what they consider the viable solution that they are working towards. These are "facts" that were are entitled to know. If your course of action is not compatible with the public's desire then we should have the opportunity to change course now. If you and the GSTAC want credibility and the public's trust then you need to provide this information and provide it now. Governments at all levels must be open when it comes to public policy. Only personell matters and legal opinions are kept confidential sometimes ....
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JJohnson wrote:
Anne,
Will this information be made available before it all gets swept down stream from the spill site? Once the enviromental impact is mitigated by mother nature will George Johnson and Johnson Utilities be off the hook with GSTAC? How much is GSTAC willing to stand up to one of their own "core members"? It will take courage to do this and we will be watching. Any softball pitches will be noted and exposed for what they are. The credibility of GSTAC is really on the line here. Anything less than a quick full court press will be viewed as weakness and being in bed with the enemy.
Also can you please detail what work has been done to date so we know where this stands currently. Remember who you represent.
Dear JJ:
The fact that existing communications between JU and certain homeowners have been relegated to attorneys, limits everyone's capacity to resolve the issue.
GSTAC is working behind the scenes to determine what can be done to protect residents and to insure that incidents like this will be averted in the future. As facts become available, public meetings will be held to inform interested parties of the status.
Regards,
Anne
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Again, let me say that this is a volunteer position, not an elected one. I receive no pay or any other compensation. I do this on my own dime. As far as a time frame, GSTAC started making public statements in earnest in April of this year. I've been volunteering my time since May of this year. That's not a very long stretch of time. I would consider GSTAC to still be in its primitive stages and requiring much more growth.
Best wishes to you as you continue to pursue elected positions. Goodness knows we need solid leadership in our area.
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GG wrote: I was asked by GSTAC to represent my neighborhood, and that is what I plan to do. I've been very public about my positon on issues and clearly they are not always in lockstep with some of the core members.
I've been involved with GSTAC since May of this year. Of course I'm not in an elected position, this is all voluntary. For example, there is a proposed SRP transfer station about two miles from my neighborhood. I have been asked to make my neighbors aware of the situation. Hardly an exciting task and certainly not one that places me in a postion to commit misdeeds against my fellow man. In fact, if you live in my district, please sign up and then give me a call. I'm feeling a bit swamped as well as lonely here. Most things that need to be done require a lot of grunt work, which isn't really thrilling, but it needs to be done.
I am certainly aiming towards incorporating (ducks from gk) but until then, GSTAC will have to do. I've been given a petite soapbox and I've stepped up. Now if more of the 40k people in this area would do the same, that would be wonderful.
I agree that we need more people to stand up--I am working on some ways to get incorporation rolling but I don't necessarily thing GSTAC is the way. GSTAC has been in place for how long now? A year? Has membership and support really grown that much? I'm not being cynical-I'm asking legitimate questions because I don't know.
I feel I'm qualified and capable to lead but I won't step up to a role like that until elected or appointed by the govn't.
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Anne,
Will this information be made available before it all gets swept down stream from the spill site? Once the enviromental impact is mitigated by mother nature will George Johnson and Johnson Utilities be off the hook with GSTAC? How much is GSTAC willing to stand up to one of their own "core members"? It will take courage to do this and we will be watching. Any softball pitches will be noted and exposed for what they are. The credibility of GSTAC is really on the line here. Anything less than a quick full court press will be viewed as weakness and being in bed with the enemy.
Also can you please detail what work has been done to date so we know where this stands currently. Remember who you represent.
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gsbill wrote:
Anne, Will GSTAC be taking on the sewage spill issue? Thats one huge problem. Would be nice to see your group take a stance and have some press to back it up. Perhaps help the ones whop already did take a stance?? What do you think? Area residents want to know.
Dear Bill:
Yes, GSTAC is working hard on the issue of the sewage spill, collecting data on what can be done to insure that residents and their families are safe, and, to insure that such a terrible accident NEVER happens again.
When more information is available, I'll let readers know.
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Anne
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GG wrote: I was asked by GSTAC to represent my neighborhood, and that is what I plan to do. I've been very public about my positon on issues and clearly they are not always in lockstep with some of the core members.
I've been involved with GSTAC since May of this year. Of course I'm not in an elected position, this is all voluntary. For example, there is a proposed SRP transfer station about two miles from my neighborhood. I have been asked to make my neighbors aware of the situation. Hardly an exciting task and certainly not one that places me in a postion to commit misdeeds against my fellow man. In fact, if you live in my district, please sign up and then give me a call. I'm feeling a bit swamped as well as lonely here. Most things that need to be done require a lot of grunt work, which isn't really thrilling, but it needs to be done.
I am certainly aiming towards incorporating (ducks from gk) but until then, GSTAC will have to do. I've been given a petite soapbox and I've stepped up. Now if more of the 40k people in this area would do the same, that would be wonderful.
I agree that we need more people to stand up--I am working on some ways to get incorporation rolling but I don't necessarily thing GSTAC is the way. GSTAC has been in place for how long now? A year? Has membership and support really grown that much? I'm not being cynical-I'm asking legitimate questions because I don't know.
I feel I'm qualified and capable to lead but I won't step up to a role like that until elected or appointed by the govn't.
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I was asked by GSTAC to represent my neighborhood, and that is what I plan to do. I've been very public about my positon on issues and clearly they are not always in lockstep with some of the core members.
I've been involved with GSTAC since May of this year. Of course I'm not in an elected position, this is all voluntary. For example, there is a proposed SRP transfer station about two miles from my neighborhood. I have been asked to make my neighbors aware of the situation. Hardly an exciting task and certainly not one that places me in a postion to commit misdeeds against my fellow man. In fact, if you live in my district, please sign up and then give me a call. I'm feeling a bit swamped as well as lonely here. Most things that need to be done require a lot of grunt work, which isn't really thrilling, but it needs to be done.
I am certainly aiming towards incorporating (ducks from gk) but until then, GSTAC will have to do. I've been given a petite soapbox and I've stepped up. Now if more of the 40k people in this area would do the same, that would be wonderful.
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gsbill wrote: GG wrote:
I recognize that the questions are directed to Ms. Reed.
I, (along with my husband) am a GSTAC Rep for Morning Sun Farms and I do intend to address this issue with our utility company, as it directly affects my district.
Thanks GG..Is the group behind you like they were behind Russ last night at our council meeting in Queen Creek? I must give credit where its due. They turned out a large group!
GS, great question. Unfortunately we all know that answer to that riddle. GG, nothing against you as I know your heart is in the right place anf you want nothing but the best for our community.
How can they stand behind GG with this as they have 2 members of the utility company on the core team. That is the exact reasons why we need to have an election ASAP. GSTAC says they won't serve special interest groups. Well when you have developers, utility owners and the such on GSTAC how can it not be special interest. Will GSTAC go against JU? Will they go againsy Harold Christ for things that he failed to do in Copper Basin? Not in our life time. Let the elections begin and get them out. If GSTAC is for the people, by the people, then let it be so and start it out right with elections.
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GG wrote: I recognize that the questions are directed to Ms. Reed.
I, (along with my husband) am a GSTAC Rep for Morning Sun Farms and I do intend to address this issue with our utility company, as it directly affects my district.
I don't neccessarily disagree with GSTAC but I sure don't 100% agree with it and statements like that are what make me nervous.
You are a representative for a district? GG, I know you and your husband and like you a lot but that kind of talk makes me question GSTAC. I know GSTAC means well and you are not out to make issues or trouble but they are dangerously approaching a self-appointed representative organization.
I'm an appointed Precinct Committeeman and I wouldn't make a statement like that.
Don't take this personally---again, I know you guys and know you are doing this with a great heart!
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gsbill wrote: GG wrote:
I recognize that the questions are directed to Ms. Reed.
I, (along with my husband) am a GSTAC Rep for Morning Sun Farms and I do intend to address this issue with our utility company, as it directly affects my district.
Thanks GG..Is the group behind you like they were behind Russ last night at our council meeting in Queen Creek? I must give credit where its due. They turned out a large group!
The support behind Russ (which is well deserved in my opinion) is a good thing.
I hope that my community is equally supportive with regard to having clean water and no environmental damage. I would imagine that most would be concerned, as most reasonable folk wish to have clean water and a clean environment.
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