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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 01:59 am |
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| Anne, Will GSTAC be taking on the sewage spill issue? Thats one huge problem. Would be nice to see your group take a stance and have some press to back it up. Perhaps help the ones whop already did take a stance?? What do you think? Area residents want to know.
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anne.reed
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CSI_QueenCreek wrote:
We haven't seen anything out of GSTAC in a while but I see why this morning. Still too much stuff going on outside of Pinal county. I heard most of the gang was at last nights town of queen creek council meeting to support a businessman who doesn't live in Pinal or GSTAC area and who's business isn't in Pinal or GSTAC area.
Very messed up priorities for GSTAC and Anne Reed, Gordon Brown, and Bob Dotson.
Dear CSI:
I live in Pinal County, some live in Maricopa County. I live in an unincorporated area, others live within town boundaries. Some have a vote, some do not. Yet, we all live in Queen Creek, AZ 85242.
I make no apologies. While this is not my only concern, it is a definite concern.
Regards,
Anne
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CSI_QueenCreek wrote: We haven't seen anything out of GSTAC in a while but I see why this morning. Still too much stuff going on outside of Pinal county. I heard most of the gang was at last nights town of queen creek council meeting to support a businessman who doesn't live in Pinal or GSTAC area and who's business isn't in Pinal or GSTAC area.
Very messed up priorities for GSTAC and Anne Reed, Gordon Brown, and Bob Dotson.
Question. I noticed on the Q.C. site, discussion about those power lines. Are these the same power lines Anne was talking about taking precedence over other things in GSTAC? That there is a sense of urgency to meet about those lines? Is anyone meeting about them and are they representing us? Could it be posted on their website? Within there own emails? where? Who is speaking for us?
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 07:34 pm |
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We haven't seen anything out of GSTAC in a while but I see why this morning. Still too much stuff going on outside of Pinal county. I heard most of the gang was at last nights town of queen creek council meeting to support a businessman who doesn't live in Pinal or GSTAC area and who's business isn't in Pinal or GSTAC area.
Very messed up priorities for GSTAC and Anne Reed, Gordon Brown, and Bob Dotson.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 11:54 pm |
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SanTanEvents wrote: Here's the link:
http://www.azfamily.com/video/?z=y&nvid=256357
Yes, cockroaches are affecting quality of life. People can't even eat off their own plates. They have to keep paper plates and plastic cups secured in their plastic bags. Cockroaches crawl all over them while they sleep, and invade their medicine cabinets and toothbrushes.
Dear GSTAC, yes it is me the one who said all work for the Pinal people had come to a complete halt while you work diligently on something in a neighboring county and city.
Well my questions are what district is the roach infestation in Pinal in? What the hexx have you done to help with the issue?
What district is the sewage spill from Johnson Utilities in? What the hexx have you done to help with the issue?
What district is Bambi in? She is being sued by your bedmate. What the hexx have you done to help with the issue?
What district is this fissue in? What the hexx have you done to help with the issue?
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 06:49 am |
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Bump, For QCVillager.
anne.reed wrote:
Dear Residents of District One:
Greater San Tan Area Coalition (see ourGSTAC.com) held it's first meeting of the Extended Visioning Committee Saturday morning. If you haven't yet visited the above referenced website, please do so for a comprehensive overview of our mission and organizational structure.
In the near future, this website will become the nucleus of our Districts communication network. GSTAC's webmaster is working on updating the site to provide interactive features that should assist us greatly in our quest to address the problems facing our District and our region and serve as a easy-access vehicle to compile citizen sentiment on important issues.
Ed Guerra and I have been appointed as temporary Representatives for the Whitewing, Bonanza Ranch, and Goldmine Equestrian Estates subdivisions and for the large lot rurals. Elections for permanent representatives will be scheduled in the near future so if you are interested please get involved.
Also in attendance at todays' meeting were Char Wester and Bob Dotson who will be serving as standing committee chairs for District One. We seek additional neighborhood leaders and activists to assist us in this grass roots effort to effectively confront our mutual concerns and plan for the future of this area. With your input and assistance, our combined energies can be directed toward bringing meaningful solutions for our neighborhoods, our district, and, our region.
One of the first issues we will need to address is the placement of several back up power plants slated for development in Pinal County. One of these plants is to be located in our area near Magma Dam. GSTAC was approached by SRP and in the near future, a presentation will be made to concerned citizens for comment and questions. I will provide those who've requested to be on District One's mailing list with further details when times, dates and locations are finalized.
I can't remember who said it, but, (paraphrased), "Democracy insures those who vote an opportunity to have a say in their future. Those who don't vote, have no say." Your opinion matters! Your problems matter! Let's grip this opportunity firmly, lets have our say and create a future of our own design. Visit the ourGSTAC.com website, get involved, and, make a difference in the San Tan Area...
Please feel free to contact me if you have questions regarding GSTAC that are not addressed on the website. If I don't have the answer, I will find out and notify you. Also, please give the ourGSTAC.com link to any friends or neighbors who wish to be included on my email tree and kept in the loop about matters affecting us and our families.
Also, GSTAC will be making a presentation at the Community Unity Event scheduled for Saturday, June 7, 7-11PM. Interested parties may register on site. See details under Community News/Pinal County Public Issues Forum.
Kind Regards,
Anne Reed
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 04:11 am |
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anne.reed wrote: CSI_QueenCreek wrote:
ATTENTION! All District 1 issues including setting up meetings, posting itineraries, updating website and addressing flooding issues are ON HOLD UNTIL AFTER WEDNESDAY, July 16th, 2008.
Yes, even though monsoons are looming and even though Anne Reed says she recognizes that some district one citizens are threatened with flooding.
Please just say your prayers that no more rain comes.
What could possibly be so important as to be taking up a lot of your representative Anne Reed's time you ask.
There is a MEDIAN set to go in front of Russ True Value in Maricopa County and it could mean that his store will have only two access points including one with a signal light. http://www.newszapforums.com/forum26/63217.html
Nevermind that the median has been planned there since 2000 which was even before he built his store. Nevermind that Russ True Value store isn't in any immediate harm and that he is just one guy. You people who actually live in district 1 need to settle down, Anne will get back to representing you after addressing this median issue in Maricopa county, town of Queen Creek.
Speaking of inappropriate, don't you feel it's a bit over the top to post on behalf of GSTAC? District One readers, please disregard the baseless comments by CSI-Queen Creek.
An ill-conceived plan does not gain merit with age. The Council has the power and the responsibility to serve it's constituents in 2008, regardless of what the planners in 2000 drafted.
There are many District One residents who rely on Russes for their hardware needs and for his substantial contribution to the community.
Unlike the Council, Russ has never gotten hung up about lines in the sand. He has treated District One residents as Queen Creek residents, and we appreciate it.
Regards,
Anne
Anne, is the store in Pinal county? Is it in District 1? NO.........
So enough of the hardware store already and get on to what you should be doing....
PREPARING FOR ELECTIONS.
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gsbill
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 02:31 am |
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gsbill wrote:
Anne is busy fighting the town of QC over a proposed concrete median that may go in front of Russ' Hardware on Ocotillo Road in QC. She's busy guys and gals. The sewage spill and everything else in her county will have to wait..Didnt you get the email calling the troops to QC's next council meeting?
I'd hardly call a couple of blog posts and emails busy.
Regards,
Anne
Ahhh! Thats good news then..You have time to answer questions from those that GSTAC is claiming to represent.
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anne.reed
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Posted: Tue Jul 15th, 2008 12:27 am |
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gsbill wrote:
Anne is busy fighting the town of QC over a proposed concrete median that may go in front of Russ' Hardware on Ocotillo Road in QC. She's busy guys and gals. The sewage spill and everything else in her county will have to wait..Didnt you get the email calling the troops to QC's next council meeting?
I'd hardly call a couple of blog posts and emails busy.
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Anne
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 05:19 pm |
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Oh...she's over there, talking to a City? I'll have to jump over there to address her I guess.
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| Anne is busy fighting the town of QC over a proposed concrete median that may go in front of Russ' Hardware on Ocotillo Road in QC. She's busy guys and gals. The sewage spill and everything else in her county will have to wait..Didnt you get the email calling the troops to QC's next council meeting?
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 04:37 pm |
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Someone suggested I just ask you straight out Anne, on behalf of District one GSTAC, the following question.
Will you be electing officers for District One at your first meeting?
yes or no.
http://www.newszapforums.com/view_topic.php?id=60753&forum_id=26&jump_to=325225
"Ed Guerra and I have been appointed as temporary Representatives for the Whitewing, Bonanza Ranch, and Goldmine Equestrian Estates subdivisions and for the large lot rurals. Elections for permanent representatives will be scheduled in the near future so if you are interested please get involved. "
The "near future" means nothing to us. Your GSTAC keeps telling us everything is in the near future, yet you still continue representing us. I suggest you tell your Core members to stop.....misrepresentation is the worse of the worse....legally that is.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 03:46 pm |
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anne.reed wrote: Speaking of inappropriate, don't you feel it's a bit over the top to post on behalf of GSTAC? District One readers, please disregard the baseless comments by CSI-Queen Creek.
An ill-conceived plan does not gain merit with age. The Council has the power and the responsibility to serve it's constituents in 2008, regardless of what the planners in 2000 drafted.
There are many District One residents who rely on Russes for their hardware needs and for his substantial contribution to the community.
Unlike the Council, Russ has never gotten hung up about lines in the sand. He has treated District One residents as Queen Creek residents, and we appreciate it.
Regards,
Anne
And the hole keeps getting dug deeper and deeper. I did not realize that Russ's was the only place in Queen Creek to get hardware. If it is that important then maybe Russ needs to offer to pay for the improvements himself. No company is owed anything just because they are run by a local resident. This may sound heartless but it is a fact. By the way check out how much Home Depot spends in the QC community. You might be suprised how much that awfel big box store that puts all of the little guys out of business contributes to a local economy
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anne.reed
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 03:33 pm |
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CSI_QueenCreek wrote:
ATTENTION! All District 1 issues including setting up meetings, posting itineraries, updating website and addressing flooding issues are ON HOLD UNTIL AFTER WEDNESDAY, July 16th, 2008.
Yes, even though monsoons are looming and even though Anne Reed says she recognizes that some district one citizens are threatened with flooding.
Please just say your prayers that no more rain comes.
What could possibly be so important as to be taking up a lot of your representative Anne Reed's time you ask.
There is a MEDIAN set to go in front of Russ True Value in Maricopa County and it could mean that his store will have only two access points including one with a signal light. http://www.newszapforums.com/forum26/63217.html
Nevermind that the median has been planned there since 2000 which was even before he built his store. Nevermind that Russ True Value store isn't in any immediate harm and that he is just one guy. You people who actually live in district 1 need to settle down, Anne will get back to representing you after addressing this median issue in Maricopa county, town of Queen Creek.
Speaking of inappropriate, don't you feel it's a bit over the top to post on behalf of GSTAC? District One readers, please disregard the baseless comments by CSI-Queen Creek.
An ill-conceived plan does not gain merit with age. The Council has the power and the responsibility to serve it's constituents in 2008, regardless of what the planners in 2000 drafted.
There are many District One residents who rely on Russes for their hardware needs and for his substantial contribution to the community.
Unlike the Council, Russ has never gotten hung up about lines in the sand. He has treated District One residents as Queen Creek residents, and we appreciate it.
Regards,
Anne
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 03:17 pm |
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gk wrote: relax CSI...don't get yer panties in a bunch
I think it was quoted in a post on here somewhere.......don't get yer panties in a wad.? Come on GK. Got to quote it right as Tompsette may be watching for errors.
Anne. Thank you for stating you will be posting an itinerary soon.....I'll wait till the 18th of July. I've waited several months so far...a few more days won't hurt. It sure could have been great if this organization had been put together timely....I may have had some help in fighting my case against George Johnson....you know "the support and the Voice, you speak of in your website for the people out here." By the way, can you tell me just where the GSTAC stands on this issue with J.U.? Since you have I think 2 members of your Core Group that are Johnson Utility employees? Ah yes....it presents a conflict of interest now doesn't it, to represent the people against members of the CORE. I'll ask a journalist today if she perceives it that way too, and maybe an attorney.
July 18th.....this Friday. Otherwise another group will be forming soon, to accomplish the feats of justice for the People that you brag about so eloquently in your GSTAC: ..... "not representing any special interest group.....but a body of concerned citizens and business people wishing to PROACTIVELY determine our future." unquote. Well, you have five more days to tell us and include us in this "Body" otherwise, it might be best to take down that site as it is portraying a false sense of identity out here that is misleading people to believe you are their represetatives....just my take on it based on some citizens emailing me that I have sold homes in the past, that wonder if this "BODY" of proactive citizens is our Town Council? And also wondering why it's taking so long to represent us. What are they telling others out there in the business world, about us? How are we being portrayed to outsiders? We have no information or feedback on that....and if not given to us soon, we might have to make an announcement via the Press, that we, the people, are not a part of this GSTAC nor are we to be held accountable for it's actions or portrayal of us, the San Tan Foothills residents.
Somehow i must have deleted this comment: Anne: you are the only one from gstac that "stands" up for them. Dotson doens't count as he is a "hit and run" poster. I am still waiting for you to "cross over." I admire your constitution to withstand the onslaught of GSTAC complaints. Shame you have to take the hits...alone.
July 18th.
And.....I will not belong to an organization that George Johnson and his Utility company is a member of, especially in a "CORE" position. He is now an adversary of the people. What is he to the rest of the "founding fathers"....Malpass and Brown? IF you still give him equal representation in this Group/Core, then the people can't be a part of it in my opinion. that is a conflict. The people are in an adversarial position against this company and it's comedy of errors that they continually perpertrate on us. State your position GSTAC.
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| relax CSI...don't get yer panties in a bunch
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 05:22 am |
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ATTENTION! All District 1 issues including setting up meetings, posting itineraries, updating website and addressing flooding issues are ON HOLD UNTIL AFTER WEDNESDAY, July 16th, 2008.
Yes, even though monsoons are looming and even though Anne Reed says she recognizes that some district one citizens are threatened with flooding.
Please just say your prayers that no more rain comes.
What could possibly be so important as to be taking up a lot of your representative Anne Reed's time you ask.
There is a MEDIAN set to go in front of Russ True Value in Maricopa County and it could mean that his store will have only two access points including one with a signal light. http://www.newszapforums.com/forum26/63217.html
Nevermind that the median has been planned there since 2000 which was even before he built his store. Nevermind that Russ True Value store isn't in any immediate harm and that he is just one guy. You people who actually live in district 1 need to settle down, Anne will get back to representing you after addressing this median issue in Maricopa county, town of Queen Creek.
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 02:08 am |
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Bambi wrote:
I understand where you are coming from Pipe, but this is a beginning, and it will be the voice of the majority of the people in the District....period. If the people who show up are only the same ones that have been in "control" via the BLC, then I will not be attending any further meetings. If it is made up of a good cross/section representing a variety of residents needs and opinions, that can be voiced, then I will stay and continue to allow it to evolve, as long as they following rules of order and based on democratic principles.
The minutes of the meeting of record, and those decisions made and approved therein, are all that stand up legally and/or get passed on as the majority's opinion to any respective entity..i.e. Supervisor. Discussions should ensue on issues at hand and decided and documented at the meeting, as should officers be elected immediately, etc., at the first meeting, to form the legal governing body of this group. Sorry, but no preappointed people, except for the purpose of setting up the first meeting. We can structure it as per the people's choice, by the people attending. . At least we can address the problems at hand with some "structure" already set up Pipe; One they state already has recognition. Core can attend surely, but not have a vote. All minutes are to be posted within twenty four hours, and supplied to the members of the group, either by mail or by web address. All content on the Respective Web Site is to be kept current.
More ideas and observations and suggestions can come at the meeting, as hopefully we will have some talented and dedicated people show up, that want to make a change in their neighborhood.
Now Anne. In my opinion, I can only be a part of a Group aka GSTAC, if they plan on following the above format, or reasonably within those parimeters. Elections of officers must occur at the first meeting. Otherwise, Perhaps we can form another group that will accomplish the same thing...a voice of the people to Pinal County, from District One. District One Voice. Bryan said he'd recognize many voices out here, whether they are within this district one, or by themselves.
Now, me personally? Sounds to me like your "stalling" again, by your post. Let us know so we can get on with our lives. That's all we ever hear. Check our site? Nothing ever there. Oops. For me to attend and support this, I need to see a meeting occur within the next thirty days and that time posted on your site and advertised so people can plan ahead, asap. I'm not going to go out and promote this meeting you keep talking about, or the website you mention to refer to, just to discover you haven't decided yet when or where the meeting will be and the site is still empty. Just count me out of this plan, if I don't see some kind of news or announcement of a meeting on here or on your website by July 18th....this year. And please let Char know so she doesn't look foolish posting your GSTAC info. on our website, if it isn't going to happen.
Thank you.
I'll post an itinerary when one is completed.
Regards,
Anne.
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I understand where you are coming from Pipe, but this is a beginning, and it will be the voice of the majority of the people in the District....period. If the people who show up are only the same ones that have been in "control" via the BLC, then I will not be attending any further meetings. If it is made up of a good cross/section representing a variety of residents needs and opinions, that can be voiced, then I will stay and continue to allow it to evolve, as long as they following rules of order and based on democratic principles.
The minutes of the meeting of record, and those decisions made and approved therein, are all that stand up legally and/or get passed on as the majority's opinion to any respective entity..i.e. Supervisor. Discussions should ensue on issues at hand and decided and documented at the meeting, as should officers be elected immediately, etc., at the first meeting, to form the legal governing body of this group. Sorry, but no preappointed people, except for the purpose of setting up the first meeting. We can structure it as per the people's choice, by the people attending. . At least we can address the problems at hand with some "structure" already set up Pipe; One they state already has recognition. Core can attend surely, but not have a vote. All minutes are to be posted within twenty four hours, and supplied to the members of the group, either by mail or by web address. All content on the Respective Web Site is to be kept current.
More ideas and observations and suggestions can come at the meeting, as hopefully we will have some talented and dedicated people show up, that want to make a change in their neighborhood.
Now Anne. In my opinion, I can only be a part of a Group aka GSTAC, if they plan on following the above format, or reasonably within those parimeters. Elections of officers must occur at the first meeting. Otherwise, Perhaps we can form another group that will accomplish the same thing...a voice of the people to Pinal County, from District One. District One Voice. Bryan said he'd recognize many voices out here, whether they are within this district one, or by themselves.
Now, me personally? Sounds to me like your "stalling" again, by your post. Let us know so we can get on with our lives. That's all we ever hear. Check our site? Nothing ever there. Oops. For me to attend and support this, I need to see a meeting occur within the next thirty days and that time posted on your site and advertised so people can plan ahead, asap. I'm not going to go out and promote this meeting you keep talking about, or the website you mention to refer to, just to discover you haven't decided yet when or where the meeting will be and the site is still empty. Just count me out of this plan, if I don't see some kind of news or announcement of a meeting on here or on your website by July 18th....this year. And please let Char know so she doesn't look foolish posting your GSTAC info. on our website, if it isn't going to happen.
Thank you.
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Bambi wrote: Well, here's the latest on GSTAC....Someone is listening to us perhaps.
Char got an email from Dotson, Anne and Ed G., about starting meetings out here. I asked her if they announced it in their GSTAC website? She said she couldn't find it. So, I said....ok. Then you are our contact for out here, in District 1 as far as I am concerned as you appear to be the only ones discussing anything at this point. So next, a date should be established; a meeting place and time; and then announcements via the paper and notices, both on GSTAC's site and any other site or place one can pull people from.
Char is going to be announcing; forwarding all information and discussions about what she receives from them regarding GSTAC, on Char's blog at http://www.oursantanfoothills.org . At least we will know what's going on from somebody willing to share it with the public. She has posted the email information she received already. She asked if it was ok from me to post, and I said...you bet. Anything for the public is transparent and should be known by all. We are personally going to send out our R.E. cards to everyone in District 1 out here, as we have been doing for many years now, and we will include the time and place of the meeting. I've been holding off sending it for that very reason. We need as many people as possible to attend and it should be either an evening or a weekend....no weekday/daytime meetings.
One of the important things to be discussed at this meeting is J.U. impact on us out here. I know that Bob Dotson and Ed Guerra, have Queen Creek water, but the District 1 is primarily in the Johnson Franchise, so greater creadance and time should be given on that, as QC Water Co. is a piece of cake to deal with, compared to J.U.
By the way: our site crashed, as the "server" decided to go out of business, without telling us. Now we can't get on our Front Page. We are working on it.
Sorry Bambi have to disagree with you here. No one is listening to us.... If they are, when is the elections???? When that happens so we can vote in those we want, then I would say they are listening.
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Dear Bambi:
The details of proposed public meetings have not been finalized but a preliminary notice has been submitted to GSTAC for publication.
Basically, we hope to provide a regular meeting, perhaps at the Regional Park, with top notch speakers to address the concerns of District 1 residents. After the speaker, time for a Q & A session will be provided. Additionally, we're considering an open microphone for the last of the meeting to open the discussion for new business.
If new business requires a specific speaker, we will arrange it. If an emergency meeting is needed we'll try to establish a time and date at the earliest possible time. We are accepting suggestions for topics from District 1 residents and working to put together the first meeting in the very near future.
Regards,
Anne
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Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 06:13 pm |
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Well, here's the latest on GSTAC....Someone is listening to us perhaps.
Char got an email from Dotson, Anne and Ed G., about starting meetings out here. I asked her if they announced it in their GSTAC website? She said she couldn't find it. So, I said....ok. Then you are our contact for out here, in District 1 as far as I am concerned as you appear to be the only ones discussing anything at this point. So next, a date should be established; a meeting place and time; and then announcements via the paper and notices, both on GSTAC's site and any other site or place one can pull people from.
Char is going to be announcing; forwarding all information and discussions about what she receives from them regarding GSTAC, on Char's blog at http://www.oursantanfoothills.org . At least we will know what's going on from somebody willing to share it with the public. She has posted the email information she received already. She asked if it was ok from me to post, and I said...you bet. Anything for the public is transparent and should be known by all. We are personally going to send out our R.E. cards to everyone in District 1 out here, as we have been doing for many years now, and we will include the time and place of the meeting. I've been holding off sending it for that very reason. We need as many people as possible to attend and it should be either an evening or a weekend....no weekday/daytime meetings.
One of the important things to be discussed at this meeting is J.U. impact on us out here. I know that Bob Dotson and Ed Guerra, have Queen Creek water, but the District 1 is primarily in the Johnson Franchise, so greater creadance and time should be given on that, as QC Water Co. is a piece of cake to deal with, compared to J.U.
By the way: our site crashed, as the "server" decided to go out of business, without telling us. Now we can't get on our Front Page. We are working on it.
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| Never mind the postcards - just put up "Welcome to Ironwood, AZ, est. 2003, pop 46,000" signs in a few places along the outskirts of the area and apply for a zip code. Most people will just accept it as fact, since they moved here post 2004! I'm starting to dig the whole idea of revisionism. "Let's not, but say we did."
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 05:09 am |
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starleen wrote:
Marketing and a website front is all it took to make GSTAC look like "the" community representative to utilities and other organizations.
Lol. I can do the website. Who's doing the postcards?
Let's see 46,000 people x 0.26 stamps = $11,960. Maybe vote4me has the dough for this?
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 02:29 am |
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anne.reed wrote: vote4me wrote:
Ironwood, Arizona....the Scottsdale of Pinal County....
all we need is some marketing.
Wouldn't it be nice if it were that simple.
Marketing and a website front is all it took to make GSTAC look like "the" community representative to utilities and other organizations.
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 01:23 am |
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vote4me wrote:
Ironwood, Arizona....the Scottsdale of Pinal County....
all we need is some marketing.
Wouldn't it be nice if it were that simple.
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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 06:52 pm |
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Ironwood, AZ: The Scottsdale of Pinal County, where you can join a community and build a family.
All we need is marketing!
    
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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 06:40 pm |
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Ironwood, Arizona....the Scottsdale of Pinal County....
all we need is some marketing.
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anne.reed wrote: Dear JJ:
According to the GSTAC website, when opposing views are encountered, both a majority and minority report will be prepared by the district representative. We are still in the process of determining exactly where and how we will collect data that is verifiable and supports the representatives reports.
For example, if 1,000 people were registered and voted, and 880 supported annexation into Queen Creek a majority report would be prepared to present to the core. Additionally, a minority report would be presented that detailed the concerns of those who opposed the annexation. The core would then handle the press releases, attend pertinent meetings and advocate on behalf of the voting results collected, stating both majority and minority positions.
Protecting the integrity of the data is one of the biggest challenges that faces GSTAC. A city with an elections department would not have to worry about this now would they. But without this security, the process could be manipulated. There has been far too much effort expended but it was extended by those who decided they were going to hold what positions, not the will of the people. ELECTION time ANNE. to throw away this opportunity to be represented at the State, City, Town, and County levels. That is what a city os for Anne, not a bunch of people who go off on a half backed scheme to get the results they want.
Whatever position GSTAC advocates this right there is what I am talking about. Whatever position they advocate. They ain't advocating nothing for this community. This is one of the sure reasons why we need to be a city. Let the people call the shots through elections. The only way to go. Anne, why do you think checks and balances were designed? will be supported by verifiable data. To date, in the absence of verifiable data, GSTAC has not taken any formal positions (to my knowledge), though core members have attended meetings conducted by the Castlegate and Meadow Vista HOA's regarding the Option 4 Route of SR802. Hence, you haven't seen much activity of late.
Regards,
Anne
PS I've got a lot of things to accomplish today, so I'm gonna have to go now. Please don't think I'm blowing you off if I don't respond for a day or two.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 09:05 pm |
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gsbill wrote: How on earth can one group, GSTAC in this example, advocate both a pro and con position on area issues? That makes no sense to me at all. Nothing will ever get accomplished with one voice, person, entity, arguing 2 sides of every issue.
It is their vain attempt to make us believe they actually give a darn about us. This is still about holding onto their personal reign of power in Florence. Nothing more nothing less.
We are just being set up to be sold down the river again by the same people.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 09:02 pm |
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The core would then handle the press releases, attend pertinent meetings and advocate on behalf of the voting results collected, stating both majority and minority positions
How on earth can one group, GSTAC in this example, advocate both a pro and con position on area issues? That makes no sense to me at all. Nothing will ever get accomplished with one voice, person, entity, arguing 2 sides of every issue.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 09:00 pm |
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anne.reed wrote: Dear JJ:
According to the GSTAC website, when opposing views are encountered, both a majority and minority report will be prepared by the district representative. We are still in the process of determining exactly where and how we will collect data that is verifiable and supports the representatives reports. Three months so far. Tell us how much longer. A person signed up and said they still have heard back from no one. Is the just a ruse?
For example, if 1,000 people were registered and voted, and 880 supported annexation into Queen Creek a majority report would be prepared by whom would the report be prepared to present to the coreWhy? I thought once the district reps were appointed, that the CORE was dissolved. Additionally, a minority report would be presented that detailed the concerns of those who opposed the annexation. The core would then handle the press releases, attend pertinent meetings and advocate on behalf of the voting results collected, stating both majority and minority positions. I guess I am confused. Why are they still involved and appear to be doing the most important work. The rest of the work is just the gathering of the information. CORE is gone and the people are supposed to be running the show, right Anne? Otherwise, we have an unelected quasi governmental body speaking on behalf of people who think the County is their spokesman. Too dangerous I think. Too much liability. If Gordon or Jack are wrong and make wrong decisions on my behalf, my lawyer will be suing them right along with the other guy who is a part of the CORE. The guy some call the Big Bad Wolf.
Protecting the integrity of the data is one of the biggest challenges that faces GSTAC. But without this security, the process could be manipulated. There has been far too much effort expended to throw away this opportunity to be represented at the State, City, Town, and County levels.
Whatever position GSTAC advocates Remember: they do not advocate for me...I want that on the record will be supported by verifiable data. To date, in the absence of verifiable data, GSTAC has not taken any formal positions (to my knowledge), though core members What did Bob Dotson say: they are not speaking or representing us have attended meetings conducted by the Castlegate and Meadow Vista HOA's regarding the Option 4 Route of SR802. Hence, you haven't seen much activity of late. Gordon represented homeowners in the Ironwood area. His vote was the only one recognized. He does not live over there, so who was he representing. A homeowner posted on here her discust that he voted for them and P and Z excepted his vote. Hogwash. That vote should be overturned and so should the case.
Regards,
Anne
PS I've got a lot of things to accomplish today, so I'm gonna have to go now. Please don't think I'm blowing you off if I don't respond for a day or two. I'd buy some liability insurance if I were you Anne, and homestead your home. You are just opening a can of worms by your above stated actions and plans.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 08:44 pm |
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Dear JJ:
According to the GSTAC website, when opposing views are encountered, both a majority and minority report will be prepared by the district representative. We are still in the process of determining exactly where and how we will collect data that is verifiable and supports the representatives reports.
For example, if 1,000 people were registered and voted, and 880 supported annexation into Queen Creek a majority report would be prepared to present to the core. Additionally, a minority report would be presented that detailed the concerns of those who opposed the annexation. The core would then handle the press releases, attend pertinent meetings and advocate on behalf of the voting results collected, stating both majority and minority positions.
Protecting the integrity of the data is one of the biggest challenges that faces GSTAC. But without this security, the process could be manipulated. There has been far too much effort expended to throw away this opportunity to be represented at the State, City, Town, and County levels.
Whatever position GSTAC advocates will be supported by verifiable data. To date, in the absence of verifiable data, GSTAC has not taken any formal positions (to my knowledge), though core members have attended meetings conducted by the Castlegate and Meadow Vista HOA's regarding the Option 4 Route of SR802. Hence, you haven't seen much activity of late.
Regards,
Anne
PS I've got a lot of things to accomplish today, so I'm gonna have to go now. Please don't think I'm blowing you off if I don't respond for a day or two.
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 07:59 pm |
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What happens when there are 2 opposing "will of the people"? Who will GSTAC advocate for and how will they determine what position to take?
There is so much double talk going on here.
anne.reed wrote:
Dear 2 cents:
The core does not claim to represent the will of the people. They seek to determine the will of the people and to advocate in their behalf. They are not a decision making body. They are advocates.
I hope, 2 cents, that you will register at the ourGSTAC website, so you will receive the notices of any meetings and attend. Then, you will understand that GSTAC does not seek to impose it's will upon the people of the San Tan area, but to advocate for the position of the people to the entities that will continue to effect our future.
Regards,
Anne
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2 cents wrote:
It's associated with an article written on 04-10-2008.
Developers, developers people and those that have professed to speak for the welfare and desires of everyone in the San Tan area.
This appears to be not much more than a ploy by those who have been in a position of influence to maintain their position. As I said before, they are all in bed together. Now the 'queen bee', Sandie, is leaving the hive so let's devise a plan, GSTAC, where we will represent ourselves to care for the wishes of all. Shoot, we'll even get some of them involved. We can disguise our plans as being the wishes of the people. We'll get Martyn into a supervisors position, he can appoint us to the 'citizen advisory commitee' again then we can dump this sham and continue on our merry way and speak for the people without their input. And we'll be blessed by the county, again, to boot!
Just my wandering thoughts.
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Dear 2 cents:
The core does not claim to represent the will of the people. They seek to determine the will of the people and to advocate in their behalf. They are not a decision making body. They are advocates.
I hope, 2 cents, that you will register at the ourGSTAC website, so you will receive the notices of any meetings and attend. Then, you will understand that GSTAC does not seek to impose it's will upon the people of the San Tan area, but to advocate for the position of the people to the entities that will continue to effect our future.
Regards,
Anne
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JJohnson wrote:
Maybe you are right but you have still failed to answer the very basic questions that have been asked of you. Please don't try to change the subject.
anne.reed wrote:
JJohnson wrote:
Amazing the level of response we get from Anne. I know for a fact that she was still online when I posted my message for at least 10 minutes. Yet no response on specific questions or excuses like "volunteers with much work and little time" or "not my department so I can't answer that question". What gives Anne? Are you just consulting with Mr Brown prior to answering any questions? Can't you stand on your own 2 feet and take a stance? If the answers to these basic questions is so troublesome would that not say something about the group? I could never be part of something that was so afraid of such basic questions.
GSTAC is like cockroaches running from the light.
Did it ever occur to you that I might be posting on another topic?
JJ, sometimes you are just plain contentious.
Regards,
Anne
What are you wanting to know, JJ? The District reps and core members were posted earlier by Milly333 (if my memory serves me). Thanks, Milly, for writing down the names of the reps and for your participation in GSTAC!
Regards,
Anne
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 07:18 pm |
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Maybe you are right but you have still failed to answer the very basic questions that have been asked of you. Please don't try to change the subject.
anne.reed wrote:
JJohnson wrote:
Amazing the level of response we get from Anne. I know for a fact that she was still online when I posted my message for at least 10 minutes. Yet no response on specific questions or excuses like "volunteers with much work and little time" or "not my department so I can't answer that question". What gives Anne? Are you just consulting with Mr Brown prior to answering any questions? Can't you stand on your own 2 feet and take a stance? If the answers to these basic questions is so troublesome would that not say something about the group? I could never be part of something that was so afraid of such basic questions.
GSTAC is like cockroaches running from the light.
Did it ever occur to you that I might be posting on another topic?
JJ, sometimes you are just plain contentious.
Regards,
Anne
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 06:15 pm |
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anne.reed wrote: JJohnson wrote:
Amazing the level of response we get from Anne. I know for a fact that she was still online when I posted my message for at least 10 minutes. Yet no response on specific questions or excuses like "volunteers with much work and little time" or "not my department so I can't answer that question". What gives Anne? Are you just consulting with Mr Brown prior to answering any questions? Can't you stand on your own 2 feet and take a stance? If the answers to these basic questions is so troublesome would that not say something about the group? I could never be part of something that was so afraid of such basic questions.
GSTAC is like cockroaches running from the light.
Did it ever occur to you that I might be posting on another topic?
JJ, sometimes you are just plain contentious.
Regards,
Anne
Well Anne, I know you are here now....... please respond to the communities wishes. If you want it's backing, tell your group that the public wants a public meeting called ASAP with an election so we can vote in the people we want representing us......Last edited on Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 06:16 pm by pipeman
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 06:08 pm |
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JJohnson wrote:
Amazing the level of response we get from Anne. I know for a fact that she was still online when I posted my message for at least 10 minutes. Yet no response on specific questions or excuses like "volunteers with much work and little time" or "not my department so I can't answer that question". What gives Anne? Are you just consulting with Mr Brown prior to answering any questions? Can't you stand on your own 2 feet and take a stance? If the answers to these basic questions is so troublesome would that not say something about the group? I could never be part of something that was so afraid of such basic questions.
GSTAC is like cockroaches running from the light.
Did it ever occur to you that I might be posting on another topic?
JJ, sometimes you are just plain contentious.
Regards,
Anne
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Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 03:05 am |
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2 cents wrote: It's associated with an article written on 04-10-2008.
Developers, developers people and those that have professed to speak for the welfare and desires of everyone in the San Tan area.
This appears to be not much more than a ploy by those who have been in a position of influence to maintain their position. As I said before, they are all in bed together. Now the 'queen bee', Sandie, is leaving the hive so let's devise a plan, GSTAC, where we will represent ourselves to care for the wishes of all. Shoot, we'll even get some of them involved. We can disguise our plans as being the wishes of the people. We'll get Martyn into a supervisors position, he can appoint us to the 'citizen advisory commitee' again then we can dump this sham and continue on our merry way and speak for the people without their input. And we'll be blessed by the county, again, to boot!
Just my wandering thoughts.
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2 cents, thanks for the 2 cents. But my friend it is worth more than 2 cents because I feel you are absolutley correct.
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It's associated with an article written on 04-10-2008.
Developers, developers people and those that have professed to speak for the welfare and desires of everyone in the San Tan area.
This appears to be not much more than a ploy by those who have been in a position of influence to maintain their position. As I said before, they are all in bed together. Now the 'queen bee', Sandie, is leaving the hive so let's devise a plan, GSTAC, where we will represent ourselves to care for the wishes of all. Shoot, we'll even get some of them involved. We can disguise our plans as being the wishes of the people. We'll get Martyn into a supervisors position, he can appoint us to the 'citizen advisory commitee' again then we can dump this sham and continue on our merry way and speak for the people without their input. And we'll be blessed by the county, again, to boot!
Just my wandering thoughts.
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| OK, I misunderstood, thanks. .
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