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PinalRes
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Posted: Thu Nov 6th, 2008 03:29 am |
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I am quite pleased that 202 was defeated despite the many dollars spent on lie-filled commercials. Congratulations Arizona.
"Hopefully when you compile the list, you will publish it so the boycott of these businesses will spread."
The website below has compiled this list of "Wake Up Arizona" members, which has worked to undo our illegal hiring laws in the courts and sponsored the 202 sham. It looks like I will be making my burgers at home, washing my car in the driveway, and sticking with Spring Training when I want to see major league baseball.
Wake Up Arizona Coalition Members:
• Mac Magruder, owns McDonald’s franchises
• Ray Arvizu, owns Arvizu Advertising & Promotions, a Hispanic marketing firm
• Tom Barnett, owns Good Egg and Eggery restaurants and Burger King franchises
• Steve Chucri, president, Arizona Restaurant Association
• Jim Click, Tucson car dealer
• Jerry Colangelo, former owner, Phoenix Suns and Arizona Diamondbacks
• Brian Day O’Connor, owns a commercial real estate firm and a carwash; son of former U.S. Supreme Court justice
• Nicole Dreier, representing Burger King franchises
• Barry Goldwater Jr., son of former U.S. senator
• Danny Hendon, owns Danny’s Family Car Washes
• Steve Hilton, chief executive, Meritage Homes
• Gordon James, owns public relations firm
• James LeVecke, owns Carl’s Jr. franchises
• Jeff Moorad, general manager, Arizona Diamondbacks
• Mary Rose Wilcox, Maricopa County supervisor, owner El Portal restaurant.
http://sonoranalliance.com/?page_id=2769
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azcats_01
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Posted: Wed Nov 5th, 2008 03:00 pm |
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Looks like the voters were not fooled by the false advertising. 
http://www.azcentral.com/elections/
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bigwavedave
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Posted: Wed Nov 5th, 2008 02:27 pm |
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PinalRes wrote: Yep, the Prop 202 "Stop Illegal Hiring" and Prop 200 "Reform Payday Loans" are complete shams.
Not only did I vote NO on both, but I plan to boycott every business (mostly fast-food) that sponsored Prop 202 so that they can more easily hire illegal aliens. I do not know the complete list (yet), but I do know that Carl's Jr. Arizona franchise owner James LeVecke is one of the financial supporters of 202.
Hopefully when you compile the list, you will publish it so the boycott of these businesses will spread.
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Posted: Wed Nov 5th, 2008 04:54 am |
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PinalRes
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Posted: Tue Nov 4th, 2008 06:55 am |
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Yep, the Prop 202 "Stop Illegal Hiring" and Prop 200 "Reform Payday Loans" are complete shams.
Not only did I vote NO on both, but I plan to boycott every business (mostly fast-food) that sponsored Prop 202 so that they can more easily hire illegal aliens. I do not know the complete list (yet), but I do know that Carl's Jr. Arizona franchise owner James LeVecke is one of the financial supporters of 202.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 11:22 pm |
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| Yes, they are using new tactics to confuse the ordinary voter, because most voters don't bother to learn about the issues. Good insight sunshine
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 11:06 pm |
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| Sounds exactly like the "reform payday loan" proposition. They are pushing "vote yes" hard acting like it will protect consumers when in reality if you vote no they will have to go out of business in the near future (2010?). Voting "yes" will just make them stay in business with still stupidly high interest rates.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 10:12 pm |
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By Rep. Tom Tancredo
© 2008
The opponents of immigration enforcement have stooped to a new low in Arizona with their latest attempt to undermine the state's workplace verification laws. After exhausting their usual tactics, they are resorting to outright and intentional deception of the voters. This November, Arizonans will vote on Proposition 202, which will be described to them as such:
"Stop Illegal Hiring" Act is an initiative designed to crack down on unethical businesses who hire illegal immigrants
. This initiative targets employers who hire workers and pay under-the-table in cash, which fuels illegal immigration in Arizona. It revokes the business license of employers who knowingly or intentionally hire illegal immigrants. This initiative increases penalties for identity theft, as illegal immigrants often use stolen identities to conceal their undocumented status. … If this were all I knew about Prop 202, I'd wholeheartedly support it; and the initiative backers are hoping that voters won't learn anything about the initiative beyond the title.
Arizona does not need a new law against illegal hiring. It already has the toughest workplace enforcement law in the country. The Legal Arizona Workers Act, or LAWA, which was enforced in the beginning 2008, is the first state law to require all employers to use the E-Verify worker identification system. E-Verify is a nearly foolproof electronic database system that makes sure a job applicant is here legally. Arizonans on both sides of the immigration issue agree that the law has had a huge impact in keeping employers from hiring illegal aliens and, in turn, causing the illegals to leave the state.
The Stop Illegal Hiring Act effectively overturns Arizona's current employer-sanction laws. It completely removes the E-Verify requirement that was central to the success of LAWA. It forbids Arizona from acting against employers until the federal government does so first, but it's the federal government's failure to act that makes the law necessary in the first place. On top of all this, it gives amnesty to employers of illegal aliens, and bans whistleblowers from alerting the authorities to illegal hiring.
The importance of preserving laws such as LAWA cannot be underestimated. During my 10 years in Congress, I have fought in vain to get the federal government to take action against illegal immigration. States and localities, however, have had a great deal of success in cracking down on illegal immigration. From small towns like Hazelton, Pa., and Farmers Branch, Texas, to states like Georgia, Oklahoma and my home state of Colorado, patriotic citizens and legislators have taken action when the government refuses to do its duty. As the illegal immigrants leave states that get tough, they bring pressure on neighboring states and the federal government to take action as well.
Arizona has been in the vanguard of this movement. It passed Prop 200 in 2004, which took away many taxpayer benefits to illegal aliens, and then passed four other initiatives that got tough on illegal immigration in 2006, with well over 70 percent of the vote.
Usually, the pro-immigration groups try to overturn the will of the people in the courts. With both the Arizona and Greater Phoenix Chambers of Commerce as well as heavily funded left-wing legal outfits like the ACLU and Mexican American Legal Defense Fund as plaintiffs, and government executives who are often just as eager to have the laws overturned charged with defending them, any state law against illegal immigration immediately faces an uphill legal battle.
The business lobby tried this tactic with both Proposition 200 and then with LAWA, but after the most left-wing federal appeals court in the country upheld the law, their last resort is outright deception of the voter. With little fanfare, a business group
called Wake Up Arizona, which was one of the primary plaintiffs against the current employer sanction laws, has managed to sneak the misleading initiative on the ballot.
Recent polls show that when given the title of the act and the misleading description, voters would support Prop 202 by a margin of 2 to 1. However, when explained that it guts the enforcement mechanisms in LAWA, voters oppose Prop 202 by 5 to 1.
If there were ever a case of a wolf in sheep's clothing, this is it. Even citizens who oppose LAWA should be outraged by how dishonest and undemocratic are the tactics used by Wake Up Arizona.
Unfortunately, Arizonans who want their laws against illegal hiring preserved do not have multimillion-dollar legal groups to try to keep the proposition off the ballot. The only hope is to educate the voters before they go to the polling booths that if they want to stop illegal hiring, they need to vote no on Prop 202, the Stop Illegal Hiring Act.
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