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See what you think about this site. I like it. Very informative. MSNBC and FOX used it today and talked to it's founder. They liked it also.
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At least Obama's civilian security task force is keeping things under control at the polling stations. 
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Voting Intimidation By Black Panthers In Philadelphia
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gk wrote: Yes I did and I have been very sorry for it every day since. Have I not chastised Bush to the best of my ability, making known how he tricked and fooled America. Obama is doing the same thing! I will NOT be fooled again! Rember.....fool me once.........fool me again, ...won't be fooled again... or whatever the hell that nut said!!
 Thank's for fessing up. Now pay up.
Here's that guy you voted for...he couldn't remember the fool me joke either, only he was telling the botched joke/saying to the world.
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Letter from the radical American conquerors, they hate the blacks, they hate the whites, they hate everything!
“After the election, it is you who will be a minority here,” Perez said. “Think of it: Your own government's statistics indicate there are 12 million of what you call "illegals" living in what you call "America". However, we both know that figure is easily triple, but your complicit officials try to hide the truth. Once our beloved Obama is sworn in, he has promised La Raza licenses, increased benefits, and an accelerated path to citizenship for our oppressed brethren. This will open the floodgates and tens of millions of people will crash the gates and demand their rights. So a conservative figure will be say 100 million Hispanics within 10 years. There are already well over 80 million of us here, so now you are talking about 180 million plus the 45 million Negroes who are basically illiterate animals who will vote as the Democrats tell them. Together we will vote every racist honkey out of office and assume control of every local, state, and federal institution. White racists will be made to feel as welcome as the plague. The best thing you can do for yourself and your family is to scurry off to Europe. You are not wanted here. Cheers!”
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| Yes I did and I have been very sorry for it every day since. Have I not chastised Bush to the best of my ability, making known how he tricked and fooled America. Obama is doing the same thing! I will NOT be fooled again! Rember.....fool me once.........fool me again, ...won't be fooled again... or whatever the hell that nut said!!
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 06:51 pm |
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gk wrote: In the year or two ahead remember and take accountability for your votes!!
Did you vote for Bush? If so, I am going to hold you accountable for his dastardly deeds.
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| In the year or two ahead remember and take accountability for your votes!!
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I'd say you are right with your statement that you think America is finding out what this guy is all about....more people are coming out to vote for him...that's an indication of "discovery" that's for sure. Positive discovery that states he represents their wants and needs and will attempt to provide a life of prosperity for all, including the poor and the middleclass. Below is our symbol of Freedom and Opportunity for all and the pledge.....Our Beacon of Democracy to the World.
"...........From her beacon-hand 
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!"” cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
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Bambi wrote:
Do you remember McCain stating back in March, that he was going to work with the President on his time frame, so he can campaign with him on their policies? They showed it on TV yesterday. McSame. It will be the same policies.....and the rich will continue to get the tax breaks that Bush has been allowing them.
It sounds like you are assuming we've all bought into the Bush demonizing that's being successfully pushed by the left (including the media). I don't so for me McSame would not necessarily be a bad thing.
It looks like we about to get the government we deserve. Higher taxes, higher energy costs ("electric rates would skyrocket"), government run health care (and rationed care), more unions (no secret ballots), no school choice (how could school choice/competition be a bad thing?), more protectionism (tarriffs on companies that don't keep jobs here). I give him credit for being fairly upfront about his plans although I expect he wants to even more "fundamentally change our country".
I think America is finally realizing what his guy is really about and who he is but it's probably too late for this election. I think we are about to have a national "oh sh**" moment when people realize what we've set ourselves up for.
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Has anyone notice the lack of politically powerful republicans beating the drum for McCain? Not many of them willing to get up on the stump for him!
I find it quite interesting.
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Hope over despair, gratitude over bitterness, today over yesterday.
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nunya wrote: JJohnson wrote: Let's not forget that Obama has been endorsed by Bill Ayers, Jerimia Wright and the ex head of Fannie Mac
Also Fidel Castro, Moammar Qaddafi, Kim Jong Il, Hugo Chavez, etc.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Show me your sources please....credible sources, so you'll have to run them by CF first.
But, I admire that he is being endorsed by these guys. They want to get rid of the incompetent President now in office, and certainly don't want another incompetent one to carry on his foreign affairs policies (McSame). They want new life...and a new breath of freshness. Diplomacy, understanding, intelligence. He will cause them to look at democracy another way, other than war, threats and shutting off supplies to their people. Leadership doesn't suffer when you do that. The innocents; the people are the ones that suffer. We will become a "stronger" nation because of this man and his character, and the world will benefit from his diplomacy and great depth of understanding and leadership. You can't convince them to come to your side, unless you go to them and listen to their philosophies and reasons why they don't choose democracy. So he will be "mingling" with them, much to the chagrin of those who didn't vote for him. I'll call those actions those of an Ambassador of good will, and McCainnites will call it Treason. Mentors of democracy is what this world needs, and Barack will be one of them.
In the Bible, Jesus mingled among the sinners, and his people accused him of committing wrong doing. Then Jesus said to them....it is not the healthy that need the physician. It is the sick that are in need of him....or something to that effect. Just going by memory here. Verify it..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0DRk8dFjI
HOPING for a better world where it is not the thickness of our wallets, the house we live in, the car we drive or the amount of our retirement savings that bring us happiness.
Let's be grateful for what we have and turn the page on what we've lost.
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JJohnson wrote: Let's not forget that Obama has been endorsed by Bill Ayers, Jerimia Wright and the ex head of Fannie Mac (can't remember his name). What is worse is that Obama not only took the endorsement but also embraced them personally when it was convenient. the ex CEO is also a big shot inhis campaign to this day.
Candidates can not control who endorses them and I am sure that McCain had wished that Cheney had kept his mouth shut but did you think Cheney was going to vote for Obama?
Do you remember McCain stating back in March, that he was going to work with the President on his time frame, so he can campaign with him on their policies? They showed it on TV yesterday. McSame. It will be the same policies.....and the rich will continue to get the tax breaks that Bush has been allowing them.
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JJohnson wrote: Let's not forget that Obama has been endorsed by Bill Ayers, Jerimia Wright and the ex head of Fannie Mac
Also Fidel Castro, Moammar Qaddafi, Kim Jong Il, Hugo Chavez, etc.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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JJohnson wrote:
Let's not forget that Obama has been endorsed by Bill Ayers, Jerimia Wright and the ex head of Fannie Mac (can't remember his name). What is worse is that Obama not only took the endorsement but also embraced them personally when it was convenient. the ex CEO is also a big shot inhis campaign to this day.
Candidates can not control who endorses them and I am sure that McCain had wished that Cheney had kept his mouth shut but did you think Cheney was going to vote for Obama?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/attacks/
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Let's not forget that Obama has been endorsed by Bill Ayers, Jerimia Wright and the ex head of Fannie Mac (can't remember his name). What is worse is that Obama not only took the endorsement but also embraced them personally when it was convenient. the ex CEO is also a big shot inhis campaign to this day.
Candidates can not control who endorses them and I am sure that McCain had wished that Cheney had kept his mouth shut but did you think Cheney was going to vote for Obama?
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 03:32 pm |
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Let's not forget that Cheny just endorsed McCain. McCain earned it thought after voting with these guys 92% of the time. More of the same with McCain.
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Dear G:
And you think McCain/Bush/Cheney are protectors of our civil rights?
McCain had to sell his soul to the devil to get the nomination. I'll trust the unknown before I'll sign up for 4 more years of the same ol' cr@p.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
oh yeah.........ObamaCon wants the citizen corp to spy on families and report anything they think is objectionable. Kids informing on parents, parents informing on kids, more of his blasphemous Alpha/Omega crops. Hitler would be proud of this nuts vision for a state society
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azcats_01 wrote: These words describe our situation failry accurately, I'd say:
- You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich.
- You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.
- You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift.
- You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer down.
- You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred.
- You cannot build character and courage, by taking away men's initiative and independence.
- You cannot help men permanently, by doing for them what they could and should, do for themselves.
These are from Abe Lincoln.
Good ole Abe. But my question is "When and Who is responsible for teaching these values?" Once we find them, we can blame them for this Meltdown.Last edited on Sat Nov 1st, 2008 11:43 pm by Bambi
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These words describe our situation failry accurately, I'd say:- You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich.
- You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.
- You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift.
- You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer down.
- You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred.
- You cannot build character and courage, by taking away men's initiative and independence.
- You cannot help men permanently, by doing for them what they could and should, do for themselves.
These are from Abe Lincoln.
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QCVillager wrote: Bambi wrote:
I also watch Bill Mahr on Friday nights. Now he doesn't mince words, nor do his guests. He says it like he sees it. Not good for those who are a part of the religious right.
but a Liberal is supposed to be so "enlightened" and peace loving and not hateful or judgemental. Bill Mahr is none of those things. he is filled with hate and bitterness and worse... isn't even funny. like i have said... i recognize and enjoy humor and lampooning even of people i really like and admire. but a "joke" when delivered with a hateful, mean spirited edge just ceases to be funny.
Those discriptions are your opinion. Bill is a political satirist, and that's the way you have to "read" him when he jokes or comments. Here's the dictionaries definition of a satire.....
1: a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2 : trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly.
So, I would suggest that if that type of humor offends you, then don't watch him. He speaks his mind and sometimes with anger and sometimes with humor. Some of his satire I like, and others I ignore. Kind of like South Park. But his jokes are satirical, and one must understand that when he performs. Remember, he is an entertainer....for adult eyes and ears....and only comes on once a week. He has had some fabulous guests, both Democrats and Republicans, and they debate issues, with humor keeping alive and well on the set.
It's sure better for me than watching "Mass for Shutins." Each to their own. Isn't America Great?
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gk wrote:
This false association that the ObamaOdinga camp is using is what his supporters see him as. CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE. If he is elected THAT"S WHEN YOU WILL SEE CHANGE!
He will morph into the EXACT opposite of what he is trying to portray himself as. Can you imagine the absolute uninhibited gall that it takes for a man to portray himself as GOD"S chosen.
Can you imagine what GOD thinks of this self glorification!!
Think for yourself!!
So you fault OBama for pandering (politics as usual) to the Evangelicals? At least, unlike McCain, he didn't feel compelled to misstate his objectives to get their vote. Who knows what John McCain stands for anymore, he's lost his footing.
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Bambi wrote:
I also watch Bill Mahr on Friday nights. Now he doesn't mince words, nor do his guests. He says it like he sees it. Not good for those who are a part of the religious right.
but a Liberal is supposed to be so "enlightened" and peace loving and not hateful or judgemental. Bill Mahr is none of those things. he is filled with hate and bitterness and worse... isn't even funny. like i have said... i recognize and enjoy humor and lampooning even of people i really like and admire. but a "joke" when delivered with a hateful, mean spirited edge just ceases to be funny. Last edited on Sat Nov 1st, 2008 04:32 pm by QCVillager
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikg6gj71U9k
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/128169
According to Corsi, Odinga ran for president in Kenya's 2007 elections. Sen. Obama, while there on a 2006 "fact-finding visit", directly intervened in the elections by supporting Odinga's candidacy, despite an agreement Odinga had signed to back Kenya's radical Muslims. Corsi reports that Sen. Obama raised over one million dollars for Odinga's 2007 presidential campaign.
Further connecting the two, it was discovered that Odinga and Obama are first cousins. Odinga told BBC's "The World Today" that Senator Obama's father was his maternal uncle.
Odinga lost the presidential election in the end, but the anger of that loss resulted in a backlash of deadly violence in Kenya which left an estimated 1,000 members of the nation's Kikuyu tribe dead and up to 500,000 displaced from their homes. According to reports received by Corsi, Odinga's supporters damaged or destroyed up to 800 churches in Kenya, including perpetrating a horrific scene of herding several Kenyan Christians into a church and setting it on fire with the Christians inside, copying what the Nazis often did to the Jews during the Holocaust.
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2 cents wrote: I like Keith and really like Rachael Maddow. I hope they continue their programs after the election. I don't know why they wouldn't. Just have to shift their focus. Perhaps to Gov. abuses, pork barrels and many other things.
just my 2 cents
Where do you stand with regard to Mr. Olbermann?
We all like the man who hates our enemy worse than I do. But Olberman/Mathews and to a lesser degree because she is so new, Maddow are haters. Pure and simple and the network ratings prove it. NBC knows they have a problem with them and yanking them off of the political frontline proves it. I have faith that Rachel Maddow will follow the same path and end up in the hater category too. I have no hatred or venom for Obama, I simply disagree with him. I will be just fine with whoever becomes President because I have prepared myself. I am more worried about the next generations that won't have the same opportunity that I had. Once government becomes the solution everything else breaks down and laziness sets in. Just look what happened in the Socialist countries of the Eastern Bloc of Europe. They collapsed because there was no incentive to work hard. Other problems abounded there too but lazy attitudes brought on by the nanny state are the root of the issue. I hate to see the US go further down this road.
While I enjoy watching Bill O'Reilly because he asks alot of well thought out questions Sean Hannity gets on my nerves due to his hatred also. Allen Combes is not a hater but is just a bad orator. He can't seem to put a cohesive thought together and trys to defend the indefensible too often. He always seems to be on the heals of his feet on the show and can't get on the front end of an arguement. Rush Limbaugh is also a hater but somehow he has hit a chord with Americans. Nobody could sustain his ratings for 20+ years if he was not speaking a truth.
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2 cents wrote: I like Keith and really like Rachael Maddow. I hope they continue their programs after the election. I don't know why they wouldn't. Just have to shift their focus. Perhaps to Gov. abuses, pork barrels and many other things.
just my 2 cents
Where do you stand with regard to Mr. Olbermann?
I like Keith, but I wouldn't want to be on his hate list. He makes no bones about how he feels, and doesn't care about the repercussions. Straight talker. I just hate hearing him bring up Billo the Clown as he calls him, and tear him up every night. I mean, get over it Keith. Tell us something interesting.
Rachael? She's is really climbing the ladder of succesful Commentators. She is very intelligent and interesting. She does her homework and does it well.
Chris Matthews is also one of my favorites. He will dig until the truth slips out. He's the one that got Michelle Bachman to spew her venom about unAmerican activities of Obama and other congressmen. Kiss of death for her. The RNC has pulled their advertising out for her. She's on her own and not doing very well. She blames it on Chris for "baiting" her.
Anyway, this is about the time that I go and start watching their programs. I think Chris is on now,.
I am a bad girl. I also watch Bill Mahr on Friday nights. Now he doesn't mince words, nor do his guests. He says it like he sees it. Not good for those who are a part of the religious right.
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I like Keith and really like Rachael Maddow. I hope they continue their programs after the election. I don't know why they wouldn't. Just have to shift their focus. Perhaps to Gov. abuses, pork barrels and many other things.
just my 2 cents
Where do you stand with regard to Mr. Olbermann?
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| 2 cents. What is your opinion of Keith Oberman? I am trying to discover why you posted his dialogue?
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This false association that the ObamaOdinga camp is using is what his supporters see him as. CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE. If he is elected THAT"S WHEN YOU WILL SEE CHANGE!
He will morph into the EXACT opposite of what he is trying to portray himself as. Can you imagine the absolute uninhibited gall that it takes for a man to portray himself as GOD"S chosen.
Can you imagine what GOD thinks of this self glorification!!
Think for yourself!!
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I have nothing but love for those who believe that ignoring problems makes them go away, I have plenty of these in my own family.
But, truth will prevail. A faltering economy won't go away because we don't acknowledge it. We need decisive action, now! Only one candidate has expressed a plan to combat this national crisis, and it's not John McCain. Don't get me wrong, he's a native son and I'd love to say I helped elect the first president of the United States from Arizona. But, my concerns for the future of this nation and for our generations to come precludes my McCain vote.
You can stick to the position that we have become a nation of whiners as the McCain camp so vehemently embraces or you can opt for being part of the solution for the 21st century. 20th century politics are done. 20th century economics are done. Even Alan Greenspan admitted that he made a serious err in judgement when he calculated the model to predict global economies. For that error, we will pay a price and no amount of avoidance will avert that terrible fact.
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By Keith Olbermann
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Finally as promised, tonight's Campaign Comment and Rashid Khalidi.
And it is one thing—one stupid, cataclysmic thing—to try to slime your opponent because of his relationship with some guy, only to then find out that your own candidate has a stronger relationship with that guy.
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But this graduates to the level of fatal political malpractice when the ultimate result of your effort to slime your opponent, is to in fact draw a parallel between your candidate, and William Ayers.
The huffing, puffing, panicky McCain noise machine has really done it this time. John McCain, and William Ayers, both gave money to this man Rashid Khalidi. Sen. McCain, you may want to get a pad and pencil here and write all this down.
I'm actually going to agree with William Kristol, when he wrote in the New York Times, that you should fire your entire campaign staff. In three short steps, while trying to link Sen. Obama to Rashid Khalidi; they have instead linked you to Rashid Khalidi and Bill Ayers.
Watch, Senator —
Step one: get the running mate who thinks she's smarter than everybody else to throw out the first pitch.
PALIN: It seems that there was yet another radical professor from the neighborhood who spent a lot of time with Barack Obama, going back several years. This is important, because this associate, Rashid Khalidi, he, in addition to being a political ally of Barack Obama, he's a former spokesperson for the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
Now Senator, if you're seeing that clip for the first time, take a minute to clean up whatever you were drinking, and whatever you hit with your spit-take. As you remember, Sen. McCain, Rashid Khalidi's also the guy you gave $448,873 dollars to, ten years ago.
When you were Chairman of the International Republican Institute, and Khalidi wanted grant money to spend in the West Bank, for his Center for Palestine Research and Studies.
As you know, Senator, $448,000 goes a lot further than friendship. You gotta tell Gov. Palin stuff like this, Senator. Unless, of course, she already knew, and said it anyway, which means that those stories about how she's stabbin' you in the back are just scratchin' the mavericky surface.
But to continue this long, dismal tide of self-destruction, Senator. That was step one.
Step two: Get the drumbeat rolling with the most over-rated strategist in the history of American politics, Karl Rove, on the echo chamber of choice, Fixed News.
ROVE: What bothers me about this is where was the McCain opposition research when this article came out last April that talked about Obama's presence at the dinner for Khalidi and mentioned in the story the tape. This would be a lot better if this drumbeat had been started last spring.
Senator, put the bottle down.
You may know all-too-well, and I may just be guessing, that Rashid Khalidi had to have come up last spring, but what used to be the cooler heads in your campaign said: ick-snay on the alidi-kay.
Because your campaign had to have known that you mainline directly back to him—and not just the $448,000 grant in 1998 but another series of other grants from your group to Khalidi's group in 1993, you'd know how much those were for; we haven't found out.
Yet. But, the smart folks are all gone now. All you got left are Sarah Palin and Karl Rove and Rudy Giuliani.
Steps one and two having been completed. He was step three. I know! Let's ask Rudy! He'll try anything. Honestly, Senator, I know you like this man, but, frankly, if he's talking about anything west of Hoboken, New Jersey, or anything more complicated than how to speed cross-town traffic, he's lost.
The problem is, when Rudy Giuliani starts talking Rashid Khalidi, not only is Rudy going down, but he's taking you with him.
GIULIANI: What I do know is that Khalidi has made Israel... he has a connection with the PLO... I believe Khalidi's wife was the translator... he has a very hostile view to the state of Israel ...and he was giving a party and Senator Obama said laudatory things about him... and Senator Obama and Ayers, sitting on the Woods board, gave something like $70,000 or $80,000 to Khalidi's organizations
Senator, Senator, Senator. Morals aside, this is the classic problem of guilt by association: Obama and Ayers gave Khalidi's organizations $80,000. McCain gave Khalidi's organizations $448,000.
Obama and Ayers. Obama and Ayers. Obama and Ayers and McCain. Obama and Ayers and McCain. Ayers and McCain. Ayers and McCain! So now, not only is Rashid Khalidi your problem, not Obama's. But now you're connected to Bill Ayers.
The only difference is who gave this nebulously nefarious guy with the Arabic name more money, you or Ayers? Golly, Senator, that'd be you by a figure of at least 5-1.
Which is also the ratio of your campaign's sleaze bombs that blow up in your own face.
Retire them, Senator, and this Clown College you have, before they "advise you" into trying to link Obama to the Keating Five or something. Because if you lose on Tuesday, Senator, you're going to have a long time to think about not only why you sold your soul, but why you sold it to these chowderheads. And if you win on Tuesday, you're going to go into office with more blowback sleaze on you than any president in our history.
And the White House is no place for a brain trust, consisting of very few brains, and nobody worth trusting. Hey, got an idea, Senator, maybe you should turn to a guy who evidently thinks like you, at least on funding Palestinian think-tanks. Maybe you could get some late help from William Ayers.
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The video has been updated to correct the errors:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bONVzY-Ppyw
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Hi All:
Just came across this video and thought I'd put up a link for Pinal residents who might still be on the fence about their presidential vote. I can't help it, I like this guy!
This video is 1/2 hour long. However, the speech addresses many of the concerns I've heard voiced among my own friends and family. It's only a 1/2 hour but if OBama's correct, it might be the most important 1/2 hour of research you'll ever do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X3eE18dfmE
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Thursday, October 30, 2008
Berg to U.S. Supreme Court this Afternoon
http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/berg-to-us-supreme-court-this-afternoon.html
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Obama Tells The Greatest Lies Ever Told, Even Before Being Elected
October 30, 2008 | Herb Denenberg
Posted on Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:11:47 AM by jazusamo
Sen. Barack Obama, as a world-class liar, has come to the top in the list of the greatest lies ever told. Move over such old staples as, "Your check is in the mail," and "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you." Consider the output of Sen. Obama.
The lies bursting forth from one of the great world-class liars are so numerous and extraordinary it is impossible to rank the Top 10 or 20. They all deserve first place recognition. This column has already discussed some of the more noteworthy Sen. Obama lies, such as the first few listed among the long list of the greatest lies ever told.
* "William Ayers [the unrepentant terrorist] was only a guy in the neighborhood." Mr. Ayers it turns out was in fact a close collaborator, friend and associate. But that should surprise no one as Sen. Obama seems to have attracted a list of friends, associates and collaborators who come closer to the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List than to what you would expect a candidate for president to be running with.
* Or how about Sen. Obama's claim he didn't know what Rev. Jeremiah "God d**n America" Wright stood for. When it comes to lies this has to be almost first place among equals. Sen. Obama sat in Rev. Wright's church for 20 years, sought him out because he was a political activist, worked with him, took the title of his book from one of his sermons and on and on. If that doesn't prove Sen. Obama's a liar and can't be trusted, I don't know what will.
* One of Sen. Obama's signature lines is that 95 percent of Americans will get tax cuts or at least avoid tax increases. That means if your income is less than $250,000 a year you're in good shape. But now we've just heard from Sen. Joe Biden the figure is $150,000 and on occasion Sen. Obama's people have used $200,000. You can be sure this is a lie, as the Obama people know you can't pay for the $700 million bailout, tack on another trillion dollars in new spending, give everybody health care and adopt all kinds of other new spending programs and still cut all those tax rates.
It sounds too good to be true and it is too good to be true. It is a lie, pure and simple, and all too typical of the campaign. Before believing that lie, consider his record. He recently voted in favor of raising taxes on those with income as low as $42,000. There's another reason Sen. Obama knows it won't work. He is also going to "soak the rich" and "spread the wealth around." That's his terminology for taxing small business, big business, investors and entrepreneurs out of existence. They are the engines of prosperity and job creation.
When you start raising the capital gains tax rate, the dividend tax rate and the rates on small business entrepreneurs and when you insist on a corporate tax rate among the highest in the world and then slap on windfall taxes, higher payroll taxes for some and other taxes, you kill the goose that lays the golden egg. When you make the risk benefit ratio look much less attractive, when the benefits go down as the tax rate goes up, business just won't play the game. Whether you call this socialism, Marxism or something else, the button line is the same: Our engine of job growth and prosperity slows down big time under the Sen. Obama tax plan, and we all pay the big time price tax for such reckless policies made all the more reckless by their application in bad economic times. You learn in Economics 101 not to raise taxes in an economic turn down. So, of course, Sen. Obama wants to raise taxes in the teeth of a recession.
* Here's another slick Sen. Obama lie. It is slick as it seems to be truthful, but it carries a message Sen. Obama and his campaign know to be false. He says 98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000 and so his tax plan won't adversely impact small business. The lie is in the details.
Twenty-one of the 27 million small businesses don't even have employees. But when you take the small businesses with income of more than $250,000 you're talking about 70 percent of all small business income. So his tax plan, despite the misleading and meaningless statistic relied on, will severely impact "Joe the Plumber" and most small businesses that provide the jobs and economic prosperity we need. Because of this ill-conceived tax, small business will raise prices, cut back on employment, or not create new jobs.
* Here's the all-time Sen. Obama foreign policy lie: Iran is just a tiny country and not a real threat. Well, maybe that's not a lie. Maybe it's just an untrue statement Sen. Obama actually believes. But if that's the case, it's an even more d**ning indictment of the foreign policy views of Sen. Obama. His advisers eventually told him his statement was ridiculous and he retracted it. But a president can't take two or three passes to get it right. On foreign policy, Sen. Obama (when without his teleprompter and 200 foreign policy advisers), gets it wrong the first or second time around, and then eventually gets it right.
* Another signature line is that Sen. Obama will bring change, change you can believe in, and all that jazz. Sen. Obama represents, and has always been, an extremist, radical, left-wing liberal Democrat and would revive all the rejected and failed policies of the Democratic Party, most notably more taxes, more spending, bigger government, more onerous regulation and a weaker military and timid and ineffectual foreign policy. That's not change. It just the same old Democratic stuff repackaged with fancy rhetoric.
* Here's a Sen. Obama lie that has to be considered one of the biggest, if not the biggest, lies of the campaign. That lie is that Sen. John McCain and the Republican Party are responsible for the present financial crisis because of their stance on deregulation. In fact, Sen. McCain and the Republican Party wanted to put an end to the abuses at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which were making unsound mortgages in an ill-founded and dangerous plan to make housing affordable for even the credit unworthy.
Sen. McCain issued warnings and proposed remedial legislation. Who told us all was well and went along with the status quo that was heading toward catastrophe: The Democratic Party, spearheaded by Sen.Chris Dodd (who took a sweetheart loan from one of the mortgage companies in on the gravy, that some might view as a bribe), and Rep. Barney Frank who reassured everyone as recently as June 2008 that all was well at Fannie and Freddy. And what was Sen. Obama's role? He was raking in political contributions from those connected with Fannie and Freddy. In fact, he was second only to Mr. Dodd, but in terms of contributions per year he got more tainted money from Fannie and Freddy connections than anyone in the Senate.
The irony and tragedy is that the Republicans and Sen. McCain are being blamed for the financial meltdown that was brought upon us by the improper, shortsighted, unethical activity of the Democratic Party and Democratic legislators such as Messrs. Dodd, Frank and Sen. Obama.
* Another classic lie is that Sen. Obama is a centrist. He tries to portray himself as a moderate and a great compromiser. In fact, he is an extremist, a radical, a socialist, a Marxist and a highly partisan legislator. His proposals are to the far left. His voting is to the far left. And his administration will be to the far left. He is the most liberal member of the Senate, followed by socialist Bernie Sanders in second place followed by Sen. Biden in third. This is probably the most liberal ticket in the history of presidential politics.
* Still another classic lie is he is non-partisan. He has never reached across the aisle and worked with the other party on any issue of real significance. He is, and has always been, a hardline, leftist, extremist and radical. There isn't a non-partisan bone in his record. That quality is reserved for speeches only.
* Sen. Obama constantly harps he wants to help the middle class. That's his rhetoric but his record turns statement into a lie. That's because he's never done anything for the middle class but talk.
* One of his most vicious lies was made right after Russia launched its illegal aggression against neighboring Georgia. Sen. Obama's comment included a statement that we'd have more credibility in such matters if we "set a better example." This suggested that our internationally sanctioned liberation of Iraq from Saddam Hussein was somehow a bad example, and that detracted from our ability to protest Russia's aggression against Georgia. Sen. Obama knows better. America has set the best example in the history of the world for using its treasure and blood to help others, to free others and to fight for the rights and freedom of others.
We saved Europe, and the world, from Nazism, communism and Japanese imperialism. We rebuilt our defeated enemies after World War II. We have sent endless aid to other nations and regions after national disasters. We are responsible for one of the great humanitarian projects to fight the AIDS epidemic in Africa. We have given the whole world the benefit of our endless inventions to improve the health and welfare of all from medical advances of all kinds to the invention of all kinds of technology. We are indeed the golden city on the hill that pours forth the endless benefits of our system of freedom and liberty to all of our citizens and the rest of the world. So where does Sen. Obama, who has had every advantage of our system, come to complain about the example we set.
* One of Sen. Obama's biggest lies is his pledge and promise to take public financing of elections. He broke his promise in a minute, as soon as he saw that private rather than public financing would bring his campaign more money.
Sen. McCain kept his promise. Sen. Obama's promise breaking is especially significant for several reasons. First, he is breaking his promises even before the election. WOW, after the election he'll break them even faster. Second, public financing was one of his key tenets, but it went under the bus as soon as Sen. Obama saw it wasn't expedient at the moment. Third, he went into his usual disingenuous spin to try to excuse himself and lie himself out of it, suggesting his version of private financing was in effect public financing because so many contributions came from small donors. He breaks his promise and then tells a ridiculous lie to excuse his breaking that promise. How good is his promise to hold the line on taxes of everyone making less than $250,000? What are any of his promises worth?
* Sen. Obama claims he is a friend of Israel. Yet he honors and gets grant money for Rashid Khalidi and his organization, knowing that Mr. Khalidi is a virulently anti-Israel operative with links to terrorist organizations. He attended a going-away party for Mr. Khalidi, an Arafat associate, along with unrepentant terrorist Mr. Ayres and pays tribute to Mr. Khalidi. At that party, Mr. Obama sits around and listens to all kinds of anti-Israel speeches. Mr. Khalidi also held a fund-raiser for Sen. Obama and was often his dinner companion.
Investor's Business Daily on its Web site, http://www.ibdeditorials.com (Oct. 27) concluded, "This should be enough for Obama supporters who stand behind Israel to rethink their vote. Those concerned about honesty and integrity should do the same, since Obama has sworn to be a friend of Israel." When confronted with this, Sen. Obama will probably say (as he did in the case of terrorist Mr. Ayers) he is just a guy in the neighborhood.
Incidentally, the Los Angeles Times has a tape of the Mr. Khalidi going away party, an Israel-bashing session in which Sen. Obama participated. The Times has refused to release the tape, in keeping with the mainstream media's campaign to sell Sen. Obama and keep the truth from the public. For that reason, you can be sure Sen. Obama is a hundred times more dangerous and unqualified than portrayed by the mainstream media.
Sen. Obama also attended Rev. Wright's church. Rev. Wright was and is well known for his speaking and writing was often laced with anti-Israel commentary. Sen. Obama says he's a friend of Israel, but if he were would he be supporting, working with, and praising a stable of anti-Israel, anti-Semitic friends?
* One of the cruelest lies of the Obama campaign was the claim Sen. McCain is out of touch because he doesn't make a lot of use of the computer. He doesn't because of war injuries.
* There are many other Obama campaign spots that depend on lies. For example, one suggested Sen. McCain was willing to stay and fight in Iraq for 100 years. Sen. McCain had simply made the point that, as for example, in Germany we still have troops there more than 60 years after the end of World War II. So that's entirely different than fighting a 60-year or a 100-year war.
* I won't even get into the whopping lies from Sen. Biden, as that would require a 30-volume encyclopedia. I will mention perhaps the latest. He said, in the now famous Florida satellite interview Sen. Obama didn't say he wants to "spread the wealth around."
He did say that and he said much worse in the now famous 2001 interview in which he says one of the great failures of the civil rights movement was its failure to get more redistributive justice, i.e., spreading the wealth around.
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