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Posted: Thu Jan 8th, 2009 09:15 pm |
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I'm sorry Gene. I thought you said that as a teacher I do not know my history.... what do you call that?
I am not against Israel or Jews or progressive Muslims. My grandmother was a Jew, so I guess that makes me eligible to become an Israelite? I am not against the Palenstines either. I am against Terrorsim, no matter who it comes from. SO when Israel defends itself, and I say it should, it is not because of them being Jewish or zionist or whatever. It is because the terroist say they should not exist and will continue to do what they can to remove it from the face of the earth. Yesterday Israel called a Truce. Immediately after the truce time was up, it was Hamas sending missles over, not Israel. But Israel returned the fire and now here we go again. Returning the fire is a defence. All Israeliste are citizens of their Country and must defend and protect all. All Hamas citizens in Gaza are defending their Country and must protect all. The difference is that Hamas believes in Terrorism and practices radical Islam and fails to train their citizens as Israel does, for battles. Their value on life is different. They choose to die for Islam as radicals and will sacrifice their families for this belief. Israel chooses to defend life, their State and their families imo.
As more progressive Arabs assimilate into the government as they are doing, then we will see change. As long as they don't bring in their radical Isamic beliefs, they can work with the Jews. As long as the Zionist hold on to their radical beliefs, there will be no peace. And no, I am not a zionist and don't believe in their movement. One of the reasons America started treating Israel well is because of their proximity in the middleeast, not because of the Jewish Faith. That "protectionist" attitude came later.
Neither of us are experts on this. The point of this is to express our feelings and opinion about it. That's what I'm doing. I am not adhering to any doctrine nor do I care about any scripture. So let's get off religious philosophies and stick to the political issues of this democratic nation.
We need Peace between the two factions, but as long as religion interferes, peace will be hard to reach. It must become secular imo, to thrive as a democracy.
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Posted: Thu Jan 8th, 2009 09:03 pm |
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Mid Eastern people have been fighting since the dawn of time. They will continue fighting until the end of time. That is the way they are raised-they will not change. How are we supposed to know what they are even fighting about since it has been continuing for years-pre Bible possibly before any known writting? I bet they don't even know what really started it. Innocent children have been killed on multiple sides-very sad.
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Posted: Thu Jan 8th, 2009 08:41 pm |
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There was no personal attack as you put it. The Likud is the party of netenyahoo and the zionists and they are the far right. Do you know the difference between the Zionists and the Orthodox Jews? You seen to blow theim off as non existant.
In the recent genocide over 600 Palestinians were murdered and only 5 Israelis were killed. four of the Israelis were killed by friendly fire. That means over 500 Palestinians to I Israeli. And this is self defense???
Did you read the Talmud the most respected book of the fake Jews?? Or the Kabbala?
I guess there is ni changing a mind made up that Israel can do no wrong. If it's good for Israel it is good for America. I guess this is wheryou and I differ.
Rev 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Rev 2:9
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.
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Posted: Thu Jan 8th, 2009 04:41 pm |
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gk wrote: Sorry Bambi, you're history is a little off
The zionists in Israwel are mostly descended from the Khazars. the tue jews are the remnants of the Biblicals Jews. They are true semetic people, but the descendents of the Khazars are not a semetic people. Arabs, Pelestinians and the remnants of GODS jews are semetic.
Yes, the Zionists ARE running the show in Israel. THe true semtitic Jewsare the Jews of Gods chosen and they are the ones that speek out against the illegal state if Isreal and the ones the you can see on videos, websites and everywhere proclaiming the fake jews are in opposition to the G*D of the true Jewish remnat.
With all due respect, as a teacher yoou do not know your history.
The true Torah Jews
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
http://www.zionism-israel.com/his/jewish_anti_zionism.htm
I suggest that you begin here to know the facts about Judaism and Zionism
THe zionist revere the Talmad as their most Holy book. The Talmud is a must read for everyone. Then you will understand the zionist FAKE JEWS
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
and of course the Kabbalah, The book of dark magic
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/tku/index.htm
and the idea of separation of church and state cannot be used in the middle east, as they have never believed such a thing. Another overused excuse for behaviors
First of all, let's not post any personal attacks suggesting as a teacher I do not know my history. From what I posted, please demonstrate on here for me how you came to that conclusion. Next time I see you out there directing traffic for the Sherrif's Dept., and I don't like the way you do it, should I come on here, a public site and announce that as a volunteer for the Sherrif's Dept., you don't know how to direct traffic so you're a bad cop volunteer?. Unfair.
Now having read all your biased articles which most have the Star of David as their Avatar, I didn't find anything about the government of Israel who rules....the Knesset. You are focused on Zionism and contend they rule, and my position is that others, besides them, are involved in governing/ruling Israel. So read about the Knesset, as that is the authority that governs....and not all are zionist, as you imply.
In Israel, an Arab has announced his candidacy for prime minister. Knesset member Azmi Bishara is the first non-Jew to run for israel's highest office. Currently Israel’s governments are held together by coalitions of both small and large parties. There is now a demographic balance in the number of Jews and non-Jews in the region from the Jordan River to the coast and running the length of Israel from north to south.
Now, more than ever, the vote of Israel's one million Arab citizens may make a big difference.
Accounting for almost one of every five Israeli citizens, Israel's Arab population controls about 15 of the 120 seats in the country's parliament, the Knesset, and constitutes a swing vote in any close election race. (In 1999, a 95-per-cent, Arab-voter turnout contributed heavily to Ehud Barak's election victory.)
"Today, there are 5 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews, including Arabs. The latter figure is composed of 4.5 million Arabs and the remainder non-Jewish immigrants, mainly from the former Soviet Union, and foreign workers," says the Jerusalem Post.
By the year 2020, they forecast about 6.4 million Jews, based on population growth and an average 50,000 Jewish immigrants a year. He expects the Arab population to reach around 8.5 million, in addition to 1 million non-Jews of other origins.
Now, your argument was......?
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Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 10:52 pm |
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Sorry Bambi, you're history is a little off
The zionists in Israwel are mostly descended from the Khazars. the tue jews are the remnants of the Biblicals Jews. They are true semetic people, but the descendents of the Khazars are not a semetic people. Arabs, Pelestinians and the remnants of GODS jews are semetic.
Yes, the Zionists ARE running the show in Israel. THe true semtitic Jewsare the Jews of Gods chosen and they are the ones that speek out against the illegal state if Isreal and the ones the you can see on videos, websites and everywhere proclaiming the fake jews are in opposition to the G*D of the true Jewish remnat.
With all due respect, as a teacher yoou do not know your history.
The true Torah Jews
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
http://www.nkusa.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/
http://www.zionism-israel.com/his/jewish_anti_zionism.htm
I suggest that you begin here to know the facts about Judaism and Zionism
THe zionist revere the Talmad as their most Holy book. The Talmud is a must read for everyone. Then you will understand the zionist FAKE JEWS
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
and of course the Kabbalah, The book of dark magic
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/tku/index.htm
and the idea of separation of church and state cannot be used in the middle east, as they have never believed such a thing. Another overused excuse for behaviors
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Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 10:03 pm |
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Come on Gene. You're making assumptions when you talk about "how we feel".
Bottom Line: That's why we separate Church and State. Religion dictating the policy will only cause this type of deadly behavior.
The radicals are running the show in Gaza. The "Zionist" are not running Israels show. Not all Israelis are Jews.
Here's How I see it and my opinon.
History tells us that Religious armies of ancient times, entered the enemies camps and towns to destroy all living souls...mothers and children included. This is happening even now, as a part of current warfare where they still adhere to ancient beliefs without reformation. Hamas sees Israel as Jewish mainly, thus they, Israel, have no right to exist. So Hamas is also indiscriminately killing innocent (non-Jewish) souls by attempting to wipe Israel off the face of the earth with their constant barages of rockets. Israel must defend itself imo.
Cease Fire!
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Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 09:44 pm |
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The rockets are not right, but a far greater injustice is Israels confinement of the Palestinians into the most populated strip of land on the earth. The closing of their borders, the blockades of food, water and medicine that has been going on for a long time. The wholesale extermination of the children that Israel is intent with.
Compare the number of Dead Israeli's against the Palestinians. This is much more than self defense. How would you respond if you were not a member of Hamas and your country did this to Arizona? Sit back and take it?
Israel and Mossad could very easily take out the leaders of Hamas without invading and the killing of little children.
America funds Israel so we all are responsible for their acts, and there is NO justification at all for murdering so many children.
Continuing to listen to our lame stream media, who spew the same lies that Israel tells will NOT tell you the truth, you have to find it for yourself.
My conscience will not let me go if I do not try to tell the truth about the Zionists. The true Jews see this as an abomination to G*D also
That's the way that I see it after looking at all of the evidence, I'm certainly glad the you have a clear conscience and can live with it......seriously!
http://www.rense.com/general84/premed.htmLast edited on Wed Jan 7th, 2009 09:48 pm by gk
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Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 08:20 pm |
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20 rockets a day was a slow day. I think I recall that on one day there were over 200 rockets into Isreal. might be mistaken though. However many, it is not right.
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Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 08:13 pm |
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You're right 2 cents. 20 rockets a day over to Israel and destroying their infrastructure and lives is motivation to respond in my opinion. But, the entire area is wrong to be bombing one another. Hamas has said that it is God who says Israel must not exist, not man, so peace treaties mean nothing to them. They must fulfill God's orders to remove Israel from the face of the earth......Iran says the same thing.
Remove the Leaders.
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Posted: Wed Jan 7th, 2009 07:40 pm |
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Wasn't everything going along pretty quietly until Hamas started sending rockets into Isreal?
Do people not have a right to defend themselves when their life is at risk?
just curious
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Posted: Tue Jan 6th, 2009 06:32 pm |
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Posted: Tue Jan 6th, 2009 06:26 pm |
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http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/phopto-gallery-of-gazas-martyred-children/
Desertpeace
PHOTO GALLERY OF GAZA’S MARTYRED CHILDREN
January 6, 2009 at 9:55 am (Assassinations, Associate Post, Ethnic Cleansing, Gaza, Genocide, Holocaust, Israel, Palestine, War Crimes)
On January 5, 2009 three families were massacred: Samuni, Abu Eisha, and Al-Hilou .
Seven members of the Abu Eisha family were torn to pieces by shelling, said medical officials at Ash-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. According to the medics the parents and their five children were killed when Israeli warships shelled their home in the Al-Mashtal area in the north of Ash-Shati Refugee Camp, on the shore west of Gaza City.

Photo by AFP alestinian boys kneel over the bodies of Issa, left, Ahmed, center, and Mohamed Samouni, right.

Photo by WAFA
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Posted: Tue Jan 6th, 2009 03:12 pm |
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Posted: Tue Jan 6th, 2009 02:36 am |
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'People Are Being Killed in Their Homes'
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6578174
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 11:03 pm |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars of course Wickipedia is a very questionable resource but there is some basic background there
http://www.khazaria.com/
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/whatis.cfm
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/khazars.html
http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righitpix.html
This will give you a start
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 10:31 pm |
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It should be obvious. American media tells the same Israeli lie. The truth is the Palestinians have been starved, with held water, work, medical supplies and crammed into the most populated ground space in all of the world.
They receive a disproportion of deaths and and violence. See the damage that the vast majority of Rockets do to Israel. The Zionist are committing Genocide over the Palestinians and America sleeps.
I am pro Israel and Jew, but I am a absolutely against the Zionists!!
If you learned the truth about Israel and the Jews you would understand. That tied old often repeated come back is "Israel is the only Democracy in the region. Another lie, they are not Democratic.
The majority of Zionists in Israel never descended down from the house of David, they are converted Khazars. These are the murderous animal like killers of Israel. Watch some of the movies I have supplied. The Real Jews, the Semites are against Zionist Israel. The Kassars are NOT Semites
Don't listen to the lying media, go to the library (a good one) or research it on the INTERNET in the area of history and politics
Pro Israel and the Jews, .....anti-Zionist and the Khazars
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 09:45 pm |
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| Gene. Are you pro Israel, against Israel or just what are you trying to convey?
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Posted: Sun Jan 4th, 2009 09:06 pm |
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The truth about Zionst Israel and Palestinian rockets - A HAMAS ROCKET DEVASTATES A ROAD IN ZIONIST ISRAEL

http://www.kawther.info/wpr/2009/01/04/what-israel-does-not-want-you-to-see
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=sWRX_OFOV08
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3b3_1230864719 FULL VERSION
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=08gTWqWrI4M AN HONEST AMERICA
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=DSzn7XLLM7c&eurl=http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=80443§ionid=351020202
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Posted: Fri Jan 2nd, 2009 09:25 pm |
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| captain, you seem to be very very occupied with your genitalia.........very creepy
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New Optical Illusions for the New Year

Majic tray
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seal or toucan?
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impossible dice
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fish and cat
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