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CrimeFighter
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 04:21 am |
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| I think the majority of them disagreed with the lame gay day shenanigans. Sure, there were probably a few who went along for the ride, just like there were probably a bunch who signed up for gay day due to peer pressure. All of these stupid protests should be excluded from schools, including the day of silence. It would be nice if the government schools refocused on their jobs: teaching our kids. As long as teachers are allowed to sponsor protests that interrupt learning, then why shouldn't a counter-protest be allowed? If you suspend the kids who skipped, then suspend the kids who refused to talk all day, along with the English teacher who put them up to it.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 03:51 am |
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CF, where then do we draw the line with student protests? If one day, they decide they want to stay home to protest this groups efforts, what is to stop another group from boycotting school for the day because they don't like the outfits the cheerleaders wear. They can be quite revealing you know. The next day another group could boycott because of the way they percieve how illegal aliens are treated. This could go on ad-nausem but you and I both know this was just about skipping a day of school and nothing else. Federal law says they must attend school and parents letting their kids skip school for something like this doesn't speak well of their parenting skills in my humble opinion. By the way, how many do you feel were really appalled? I did not see your response to this question and I truly am curious. I personally feel suspensions are in order, then all of them who skipped can have a rally with protest signs and press coverage to make us aware of their suffering. 
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 02:28 am |
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TheBigShow wrote: Let me know if this kid actually changes schools and I'll believe it. The kid could have sent the threat himself for all you and I know. The cops felt there was too much hearsay to actually do anything about it. They're the pros and I trust their judgement.
What hearsay is there with a text message? It was either sent or it wasn't. It isn't difficult to trace it to the sender, unless the sender is using an anonymous tool. Either the cops don't care enough to trace it, or it was never sent. There is no "hearsay" involved in this matter.
Dave, as for the comparison between school and the workplace, those are two different environments. A working relationship is at will, meaning that either you or your boss can terminate the relationship at any time for almost any reason. Government schools don't give kids that freedom. You show up for x days a year, otherwise you are considered to be breaking the law. The kids will all be punished for skipping, it isn't like the school is giving them a free holiday. They just decided that they cared more about sending a message than the punishment. Good for them.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 09:04 pm |
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CrimeFighter wrote: Yeah, Gay Day wasn't disruptive at all. Oh, and if you choose to boycott Gay Day, you receive death threats.
I applaud the students who bailed on school this day. Way to go.
CF, While you applaud those students who bailed, in your opinion, truthfully please, how many of them do you really think were truly appalled and how many of them saw a way to "bail" from school for a day under the guise of being appalled? We all know that kids will take any excuse that is convenient for them to skip a day of school. Too bad the parents didn't have the guts to tell them to suck it up, respect others opinions and go to school. My opinion is maybe 10% lead such a "pure" life they would be appalled that someone who thinks differently from them who show their support for each other could be so infectious they have to "bail" from school for a day. Let them try that when they go out in the real world and tell their bosses that they have to bail from work because they are appalled by the gay guy in the next cubicle. A little over the top? Probably, but so was their "protest". As for the death threat, it was probably some little spoiled brats way of justifying what he/she did. I for one am not buying it........
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 07:04 pm |
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| Let me know if this kid actually changes schools and I'll believe it. The kid could have sent the threat himself for all you and I know. The cops felt there was too much hearsay to actually do anything about it. They're the pros and I trust their judgement.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 02:17 am |
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| It was an anonymous death threat. There are a million different websites that allow you to send untraceable messages. Why would the police have gone to visit the student, and why would he be talking about changing schools if the threat wasn't received and perceived to be real?
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Posted: Mon Apr 28th, 2008 03:46 pm |
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CrimeFighter wrote:
Three Mesa police officers came to his house at 11:30 p.m. Thursday to alert him of the death threat. Mesa police Detective Steve Berry said the case has been closed because there’s a lot of hearsay and a lack of evidence.
“We simply don’t have any leads to follow up on to continue from there,” Berry said. “It’s nothing more of a rumor about a rumor at this point.”
Weren't you just chastising all of us for drawing our own conclusions about the cat incident? The cops closed this case due to HEARSAY AND LACK OF EVIDENCE. Not saying it's BS, but when the cops say there's nothing to go on, that's often due to the case being BS. Just sayin....
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 02:27 pm |
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| In the fast paced world we live in, and with the hours parents have to work, we are producing minature adults, who watch their mentors (the t.v. and game machine)day in and day out, to learn how to behave. This is another society we are raising.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 02:05 am |
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The more I reflect on this incident the more ludicrous it becomes. The gay club (sponsored by an English Teacher at the school) promotes this event to draw attention to bullying against gays. Some students are not comfortable coming to school this day, so they stay home and organize a party with similarly minded students. The response from the "protect the gays from bullies" crowd? Threaten to kill those who don't participate in your protest. I think now we need a day of silence to draw recognition to the bullies who organized the original day of silence.
Now a kid is concerned enough about his safely that he is actually going to change schools. Like I said before, this event was never about bullying, it's about promoting a gay agenda, and beating down anyone who doesn't participate.
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Posted: Sat Apr 26th, 2008 09:47 pm |
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Yeah, Gay Day wasn't disruptive at all. Oh, and if you choose to boycott Gay Day, you receive death threats.
I applaud the students who bailed on school this day. Way to go.
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Posted: Sat Apr 26th, 2008 09:44 pm |
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April 26, 2008 - 4:16AM
250 skip school, 275 join in Day of Silence
Hayley Ringle, Tribune
About 250 Desert Ridge High School students didn’t go to school Friday — about a third of those students claiming they were ditching to protest the Day of Silence, Principal Dan Coombs said.
About 45 of those Gilbert Unified School District students were swimming and eating pizza at Randy Bellino’s Mesa home. His son, Jake, is one of the students who doesn’t believe the silence will solve anything. His dad invited students over who wanted to protest the day.
The National Day of Silence, which is not sanctioned by the school, asks students to take a vow of silence for all or part of the day to bring attention to bullying, name-calling and harassment.
The day is sponsored by the Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network.
About 275 Desert Ridge students signed up to participate in the Day of Silence Friday, said Stacie Wylie, an English teacher who sponsors the school’s Gay, Lesbian and Straight Supporters club, or GLASS.
“Everything is going as expected. It’s going really smooth,” Wylie said. “It’s been a very normal school day and the kids have been really respectful.”
Coombs also said business was as usual at the school.
“Other than the people who chose not to come, everybody else is in class,” Coombs said. “No muss. No fuss.”
The number of kids out Friday is higher than the average number, which is about 100, Coombs said.
Meanwhile, at the Bellino home, Randy Bellino said his son is “upset” and is going to change schools after an anonymous person sent a death threat via text message to a student.
Three Mesa police officers came to his house at 11:30 p.m. Thursday to alert him of the death threat. Mesa police Detective Steve Berry said the case has been closed because there’s a lot of hearsay and a lack of evidence.
“We simply don’t have any leads to follow up on to continue from there,” Berry said. “It’s nothing more of a rumor about a rumor at this point.”
Randy Bellino said he thinks the situation has gotten “out of control.”
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