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Lisa.Coletto.Cohen
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 Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 12:06 am
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Mia Take,

Feeling better? Glad to hear it. Here's a little information for you and then I will never respond to you again until you get out from hiding behind that alias of yours.

As for the 9/11 remembrance, last time I checked my time was my own and not yours, Town staff's or anyone else's. I am not paid and currently not elected and more important than any of that,  I had not PROMISED to be there. How are those doctors in Payson anyway, maybe one of them is your cousin? Oh, sorry I am wondering, point being, I had to fight with Town management to get the flag lowered on 9/11, I was the one who asked that we send forward a proclamation expressing our support for the victims. Personally, I had been unable to reach many of our direct family members for a long time (they all live in Brooklyn or Manhattan) and actually thought my Aunt was there in the park next to the WTC. I am a pretty private person and while none of this is your business, here's another one for you. None of our family friends would have cared. Like most people I am sure that they would have wanted to make sure their families had support in tough times, like anniversaries, birthdays and most importantly the day they passed. Showing up to an event in Queen Creek, would have accomplished none of these things. I hope that addressed your concerns.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 09:55 pm
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MiaTake wrote: MiaTake wrote: Lisa.Coletto.Cohen wrote: This was a September 11th event, for goodness sakes.  You know what? I am from NYC, I had friends of our family who died there. What happened was disrespectful. Did I take it personally, you bet. It is insulting to those who lost their lives and lives of family members. 


If this was such an important occasion for you and you took it personally that the Mayor wasn't there.  WHY WEREN'T YOU THERE?  I didn't see you there but wanted to ask others if they had seen you before I accused you once again of being the pot calling the kettle black. 

why did this get reposted again ?  there isn't anything new here.  what am i missing ?

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 Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 08:48 pm
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MiaTake wrote: Lisa.Coletto.Cohen wrote: This was a September 11th event, for goodness sakes.  You know what? I am from NYC, I had friends of our family who died there. What happened was disrespectful. Did I take it personally, you bet. It is insulting to those who lost their lives and lives of family members. 


If this was such an important occasion for you and you took it personally that the Mayor wasn't there.  WHY WEREN'T YOU THERE?  I didn't see you there but wanted to ask others if they had seen you before I accused you once again of being the pot calling the kettle black. 

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 Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 10:23 pm
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Ace.Hardware.Fan wrote: halos02 wrote:

Peachy. Send him over to Ace Hardware on Power where he will be welcomed and not hammered by any median maniacs.


This has nothing to do with the median, that’s a different thread.  Keep on topic

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 Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 10:01 pm
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Ace.Hardware.Fan wrote:
halos02 wrote: The Mayor had a DR. Appointment and told the Legion that he would not be able to attend.  Some things can’t be helped.  Vice Mayor Barney, Council Member Brown and I were there, any more and we would have had to post a meeting.

The town was represented well.

(please don’t say that I am sticking up for the mayor, I am just stating facts)

 

Peachy. Send him over to Ace Hardware on Power where he will be welcomed and not hammered by any median maniacs.


Another one hit name calling wonder. Amazing! Is everybody that shops at Jims just like you? Lay some facts on us as to what brought you to the maniac conclusion.

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halos02 wrote: The Mayor had a DR. Appointment and told the Legion that he would not be able to attend.  Some things can’t be helped.  Vice Mayor Barney, Council Member Brown and I were there, any more and we would have had to post a meeting.

The town was represented well.

(please don’t say that I am sticking up for the mayor, I am just stating facts)

 

Peachy. Send him over to Ace Hardware on Power where he will be welcomed and not hammered by any median maniacs.

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 Posted: Fri Sep 19th, 2008 08:59 pm
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The Mayor had a DR. Appointment and told the Legion that he would not be able to attend.  Some things can’t be helped.  Vice Mayor Barney, Council Member Brown and I were there, any more and we would have had to post a meeting.

The town was represented well.

(please don’t say that I am sticking up for the mayor, I am just stating facts)

 

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 Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 03:37 pm
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MiaTake wrote: Lisa.Coletto.Cohen wrote: This was a September 11th event, for goodness sakes.  You know what? I am from NYC, I had friends of our family who died there. What happened was disrespectful. Did I take it personally, you bet. It is insulting to those who lost their lives and lives of family members. 


If this was such an important occasion for you and you took it personally that the Mayor wasn't there.  WHY WEREN'T YOU THERE?  I didn't see you there but wanted to ask others if they had seen you before I accused you once again of being the pot calling the kettle black. 


Maybe this post should have waited. Lisa.Coletto.Cohen had mentioned being on vactation for a few weeks. Kinda a cheap shot to post something that can't be responded to because of vacation.

Why would a former council person be expected to attend? She isn't in office. I think the former council person's point is more that if you commit to attend then you shouldn't bail out last minute, and that this is a pattern for the mayor. As a lay person I would bet she called the friends she mentioned and paid respects that way. Way more meaningful for her friends I would bet.

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 Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 03:35 pm
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Why should she be there?  She probably outnumbered the rest of the council when she was in office on these occasions.  She  has done her civic duty for years.  Now she wants to spend some time with her family and horses.  She sacraficed alot of her time when she was in office. 

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 Posted: Thu Sep 18th, 2008 12:27 am
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Lisa.Coletto.Cohen wrote: This was a September 11th event, for goodness sakes.  You know what? I am from NYC, I had friends of our family who died there. What happened was disrespectful. Did I take it personally, you bet. It is insulting to those who lost their lives and lives of family members. 


If this was such an important occasion for you and you took it personally that the Mayor wasn't there.  WHY WEREN'T YOU THERE?  I didn't see you there but wanted to ask others if they had seen you before I accused you once again of being the pot calling the kettle black. 

Lisa.Coletto.Cohen
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 Posted: Mon Sep 15th, 2008 05:10 am
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Hi Mia Take,

In answer to your questions, I did not attend one out of Town event that the Town paid for in my second four year term (This is all public record, you could go request it if you want). During my first term, I actually went back to grad school to take planning law classes on my dime, find me someone else who did that! I was instrumental in the policy requiring attendance if the Town paid or if the Town paid and the person did not attend, the Town was to be reimbursed. Continuing education now needs to be related to the Job, no events handing out school lunches in Mali.  I was not the one taking foreign trips on the Town's dime, you must have me mixed up someone else but since you bring it up, you might want to look into that too.

 I am not a chamber representative and as such did not view it as my personal responsibility to attend those events. I am a Charter Chamber member and was not someone who felt the need to join for election years.

As far as Russ' goes, he shares MY driveway, while he has three entrances, I have one (actually half). Please, find out the facts before spouting off nonsense. Besides, we were there first. He knew exactly what the situation was when he bought the property, as did we.  I constantly have his delivery trucks blocking our parking and mouthing off to our staff (and me). Plus due to the heavy trucks, I have an added maintenance expense. Have I complained, no because everyone has issues and relationships take work. You make it sound like I had it in for Russ or something. Anything could be further from the truth. All in all, I am sorry that YOU have an issue with this but frankly, it is not your business or business' involved. 


I do not need to defend anything I did while in office. I think you would be hard pressed to find a colleague and or staff member who could honestly not tell you how dedicated I was and how much time, I spent on issues, even though they might disagree with my opinion on an issue.

As far as the horse Park, this was a promise made BEFORE I took office and I only tried to improve on it. Just so you know, Desert Mountain Park was built out first to give those kids somewhere to play soccer. I will probably never use the horse park in Queen Creek, it is not designed for the types of events I participate in. But I give you points for trying. I did try to be able to relocate it so it would be more usable and potentially have a better than 6% rate of recovery, but personal issues and the Mayor's inability to stop inter-council conflict resulted in a project that will likely cost the Town substantially more than it would have. Plus we would have been on our way to implementing key areas of our General Plan, had a larger need for a hotel (which brings bed tax) and had higher traffic counts for the retail development.

You missed my entire point, my problem is that the the Mayor confirmed and was advertised as attending and then doesn't show. This is not the first, second, third or even tenth time this has happened, he has a pretty lengthy history of doing this. This was a September 11th event, for goodness sakes.  You know what? I am from NYC, I had friends of our family who died there. What happened was disrespectful. Did I take it personally, you bet. It is insulting to those who lost their lives and lives of family members.

Oh and as for my vacation time are you a stalker that you know how long I was gone? This is making me a little nervous. Secondarily, this sounds suspiciously like a person who has nothing but a very basic easy concept idea to come at me with. I actually was reachable and answered my E-mail from wherever I was be it Lebanon, Syria, China, Indonesia or wherever. Who else answered their E-mail on vacation? Please, most Council Members don't even answer their E-mail at all!

This is my one and answer to your post as I am off on another vacation for a few weeks. 

 


Last edited on Mon Sep 15th, 2008 03:57 pm by Lisa.Coletto.Cohen

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Lisa.Coletto.Cohen wrote: I just heard that not only our Mayor did not attend this, as was expected but several other members of our Council did not as well.  I am more than a little perturbed that Town staff keep making it look like the Mayor is doing his job only to have him not show up at the last minute. While I am pointing to the Mayor in this example, he is not the only one who seems to have issues getting the job done.

 Town Staff, I know you read this. When are you going to stop covering for dead wood? This is a critical time. Wouldn't it be better if the voters knew the truth? You have inadvertently become part of the problem by doing a good job. But it is time to stop the lies from being perpetrated on the public. Let those serving, stand on their own work product. Making it look like the Council is working, is NOT part of the role of Town staff. I know you feel like you are only doing your jobs by making the Town run smooth and don't mean to be critical but where does it end?

 

Now that's calling the kettle black.  How many of these events did you attend during your last term?  How many ground breaking's?  How many ribbon cuttings?  How many out of town events not paid for by the town?  I am so happy to see Jeff and Craig replace you.  The staff always made you look better than you were. Don't be complaining now.  How many council meetings did you call in on while out of town?  How many vacation days away from the town of queen creek did you take during your last term in office? Four months worth!  How much money did you plan to spend on a horse park while those children with swimming and soccer interest were put on hold?  You are pretty outspoken for someone who gets a driveway and Russ gets to borrow yours.  You only thought of you while you were on the council and nothing has changed since.

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Lisa.Coletto.Cohen wrote:   I am more than a little perturbed that Town staff keep making it look like the Mayor is doing his job only to have him not show up at the last minute.  


Hey, Lisa:

How to you REALLY feel?

Lisa.Coletto.Cohen
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I just heard that not only our Mayor did not attend this, as was expected but several other members of our Council did not as well.  I am more than a little perturbed that Town staff keep making it look like the Mayor is doing his job only to have him not show up at the last minute. While I am pointing to the Mayor in this example, he is not the only one who seems to have issues getting the job done.

 Town Staff, I know you read this. When are you going to stop covering for dead wood? This is a critical time. Wouldn't it be better if the voters knew the truth? You have inadvertently become part of the problem by doing a good job. But it is time to stop the lies from being perpetrated on the public. Let those serving, stand on their own work product. Making it look like the Council is working, is NOT part of the role of Town staff. I know you feel like you are only doing your jobs by making the Town run smooth and don't mean to be critical but where does it end?

 

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Kudos to the American Legion for doing this.  Don't forget to fly your flags in memory of those fallen victims and courageous police and firefighters who gave their lives in service.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 10th, 2008 05:13 am
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9/11 ceremony coming to Q.C. Town Hall
September 9th, 2008, 5:23 pm · Post a Comment · posted by akeim

Queen Creek residents will pause outside Town Hall Thursday morning to honor the seventh anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
Queen Creek’s American Legion Post 129 is running the ceremony, which is scheduled to feature a bugler playing taps and a speech from Mayor Art
The ceremony starts at 9 a.m. in front of Town Hall, 22350 S. Ellsworth Road, Queen Creek.

http://queencreek.freedomblogging.com/2008/09/09/911-ceremony-coming-to-qc-town-hall/


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