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TheBigShow
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 07:09 pm |
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clu wrote: TheBigShow wrote: You missed the best part of the maverick. In the past year, he voted with Bush 95% of the time. In the past 8, it's 90% of the time. That sure is independent thinking. 9 out of 10 times, he voted in lock step with the least popular president in modern history.
Call me cynical, but I'm starting to believe politicians don't vote for or against a bill based on idealogy. They vote for or against it based on whether they got their little PORK project in the bill or not. I believe this especially after seeing the fleecing of America with the Bailout Bill.
Seems to me it doesn't make much sense when people/politicians point fingers saying such things as "he voted for it" or "he voted against it." The fact is, it is more likely the person voted for or against it, not based on IT, but based on whether they agree or not on the PORK in the bill.
Seems to me a lot of transparency would emerge if a bill could only contain ONE item/law at a time. The ability for a BILL to have MANY DIFFERENT UNRELATED LAWS is the problem.
No need for a line-item veto when a bill can only contain one item at a time. This way, congressman lose ALL THEIR LEVERAGE and the leverage is given back TO THE PEOPLE.
And on this, we totally agree.
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 06:55 pm |
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| and Obama has voted along party lines 92% of the time that is when he didn't vote "present" which I think is because he just didn't understand the measures up for vote.or no one told him how to vote..a real public servant "Present".but..he did vote as for denying medical care for surviving babies of late term abortion..he says he did it to spare the Mom..really...what a kind guy......
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 06:41 pm |
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TheBigShow wrote: You missed the best part of the maverick. In the past year, he voted with Bush 95% of the time. In the past 8, it's 90% of the time. That sure is independent thinking. 9 out of 10 times, he voted in lock step with the least popular president in modern history.
Call me cynical, but I'm starting to believe politicians don't vote for or against a bill based on idealogy. They vote for or against it based on whether they got their little PORK project in the bill or not. I believe this especially after seeing the fleecing of America with the Bailout Bill.
Seems to me it doesn't make much sense when people/politicians point fingers saying such things as "he voted for it" or "he voted against it." The fact is, it is more likely the person voted for or against it, not based on IT, but based on whether they agree or not on the PORK in the bill.
Seems to me a lot of transparency would emerge if a bill could only contain ONE item/law at a time. The ability for a BILL to have MANY DIFFERENT UNRELATED LAWS is the problem.
No need for a line-item veto when a bill can only contain one item at a time. This way, congressman lose ALL THEIR LEVERAGE and the leverage is given back TO THE PEOPLE.
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TheBigShow
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 06:08 pm |
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You missed the best part of the maverick. In the past year, he voted with Bush 95% of the time. In the past 8, it's 90% of the time. That sure is independent thinking. 9 out of 10 times, he voted in lock step with the least popular president in modern history.
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 05:15 pm |
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| so...... Mountain Man You are voting for McCain?
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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 01:23 am |
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| so just how long have you been out there in the sun wandering around??
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Superstition Mountain Man
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Onus on McCain to turn race around
Saturday, October 4, 2008
WASHINGTON - One month before Election Day, Barack Obama sits atop battleground polls in a shrinking playing field, the economic crisis is breaking his way and the Democrat has made progress toward winning the White House.
The onus is on Republican John McCain to turn the race around under exceptionally challenging circumstances - and his options are limited.
The Electoral College battle playing out over roughly a dozen states puts McCain's challenge to reach the necessary 270 votes in stark terms.
McCain can't prevail without holding onto most of the states that Bush won, and he's now virtually tied or trailing in public polls in at least 10 of them - Colorado, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, Missouri, New Mexico, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia - as he tries to fend off Obama's well-funded advertising onslaught and grass-roots efforts.
The GOP nominee also is only playing in five states that Democrat John Kerry won in 2004 - Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, New Hampshire and, now, Maine - and he's running behind. McCain abandoned efforts Thursday in one other, costly 17-vote Michigan, as Obama approaches a double-digit lead in the high-unemployment state and it became clear McCain couldn't shake Bush's drag.*
Some Republicans close to McCain's campaign fret in private that Obama may be pulling away for good; others aren't so pessimistic. But there's unanimity in this; McCain has dwindling chances to regain momentum in the face of stiff headwinds, and the upcoming debates are critical.
Clearly, McCain's campaign believes that focusing on McCain's biography and record isn't enough and making Obama supremely unacceptable in voters' eyes may be the Republican's best - if not only - shot at winning the presidency.
The risk: Voters could be turned off if McCain goes too far.
(Copyright 2007 The Associated Press.)
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* Confirms what I've been saying to all you simpletons addicted to Fox News!
** Also confirms what I've been saying. McCain absolutely has nothing to offer voters except the same old worn out attempt to gain 'sympathy votes' based on his POW days and the continuation of the same failed policies that American's don't want (that's why he will lose).
By the way, there's a big difference in being a POW and being a 'War Hero' and McCain never was 'War Hero.'
Also, a 'Maverick' is not an entrenched politician who's been part of the 'Good Ol Boy Network' in Congress since '83. What a JOKE!
"making Obama supremely unacceptable in voters' eyes may be the Republican's best - if not only - shot at winning the presidency."
(TRANSLATION: BECAUSE OF HIS DESPERATION & LACK OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN CONGRESS, McCAIN WILL START SLINGING THE MUD......BUT THAT ONLY CONVINCES VOTERS EVEN MORE THAT HE'S NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL-----GOODBYE JOHN McCAIN AND DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON YOUR WAY OUT!)
.......SUPERSTITION MOUNTAIN MAN
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