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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 07:39 pm |
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Here's Barack without his teleprompter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsJLdE9DELs
This guy is a racist pure and simple:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs&feature=related
Even his supporters can't name a single accomplishment from his term as a US Senator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybd7MUixxyg&feature=related
How he has been able to fool so many Americans is just dumbfounding. He sure has a strong following among the "who's who" list of worldwide thugs. Obama supporters, you're in some really nice company:
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2008/04/17/terrorists-and-tyrants-of-the-world-root-for-obama/
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 07:15 pm |
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DavidB wrote:
No country has ever taxed itself to prosperity.
Obama did such a great job in Chicago, let's give him the rest of the country, right?
Body count in the last six months:
- 292 murdered in Chicago,
- 221 killed in Iraq.
The leadership in Illinois: Sen. Barack Obama, Sen. Dick Durbin,
Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., Gov. Rod Blogojevich, House leader Mike Madigan,
Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan, Mayor Richard Daley .....all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.
Of course they're all blaming each other.
Can't blame Republicans, they're aren't any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25%, highest in country.
Chicago school system one of the worst in country.
This is the political machine that Obama says he comes from in Illinois.
Now Obama says he's gonna "fix" Washington politics?
Dear David B:
I know you are an intelligent guy, capable of analysis, so how can you credit OBama with the murder rate in Illinois or the death toll in Iraq?
Apache Junction had a sales tax rate approaching 10%, is that the fault of McCain?
However poor the educational system in Cook County, Arizona is ranked among the lowest in the entire nation. Is that the fault of John McCain?
I wish people would get past the finger pointing and move on to rationally discuss the very real problems that face our nation. When the primary rationale for a McCain/Palin vote is a long history of cheap shots and character assassination by association I can clearly see how some of the "Joe the Plumber" crowd might be deceived, but, for guys like you I just don't get it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 06:59 pm |
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Dear Dave:
I'm with you on Obama's FISA vote! His granting immunity to corporations who bilked billions out of the pockets of countless innocent Americans (as they bought more computers, software, and other hardware) is barely defensible. However, as these breeches in rights and attacks on American wealth were made in the name of national security and the corporations were simply complying with government requests by honoring what government not only condoned, but ordered, I have taken a second look at OBama. I don't like it, but moving forward I can see how he could cast such a vote.
However, more of the same failed policies, as espoused by McCain/Palin, can only further damage our fortunes, our lives and the lives of future generations. Politicians are elected to "serve" us, not to serve corporations or emerging markets. They have their own governments and boards of directors to watch out for their interests, it's about time American citizens received that same luxury from our elected officials.
Vote OBama!
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 06:14 pm |
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 05:58 pm |
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No country has ever taxed itself to prosperity.
Obama did such a great job in Chicago, let's give him the rest of the country, right?
Body count in the last six months:
- 292 murdered in Chicago,
- 221 killed in Iraq.
The leadership in Illinois: Sen. Barack Obama, Sen. Dick Durbin,
Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., Gov. Rod Blogojevich, House leader Mike Madigan,
Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan, Mayor Richard Daley .....all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.
Of course they're all blaming each other.
Can't blame Republicans, they're aren't any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25%, highest in country.
Chicago school system one of the worst in country.
This is the political machine that Obama says he comes from in Illinois.
Now Obama says he's gonna "fix" Washington politics?
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 05:52 pm |
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Helen here wrote: TheBigShow wrote: Helen, have you actually watched that sermon and not just the God d**n America part? There was a lot more to that sermon and once you put it in context, it's a much different sermon than the 30 second clips you've probably seen. Truth is there are fiery pastors out there, all over America. At the chuch Sarah Palin goes to, a pastor from Jews for Jesus said the Jews got what they deserved for turning their backs to Jesus. Bombastic preachers can be found in every corner of America. What the preacher says doesn't mean the attendee does. The preacher at the church I used to go molested kids, does that mean everyone there molests kids or endorses it?
Your last point about the money Obama is spending is ludicrous. Seroiusly?? So he was supposed to give all his political donations to the banking industry? And McCain was supposed to what?
Objectivity Helen, repeat after me, ojectivity.
Objectivty is a good word , now do you know the meaning ? Obama just has to many issues in my opinion.
Unless he is dealing with a bout of Alzheimer each time one of his so called friend come into question he has no excuse to cover his back side.
Helen, the better question is do you know what it means? I have a firm grasp on objectivity. When someone has a policy I don't agree with, I call them out on it. Republican or Democrat. When Obama voted for the FISA bill, I d**n near lost my mind. But when I look at all the candidates and objectively see all the issues, Obama is the right choice. Bringing up Rev. Wright and all the other nonsense is simply a means to distract and question his character. It presents no solutions to issues, it addresses nothing except an attempt to scare people. If that's all people have, they don't have much. You seem to have not really investigated the issues and just trusted what the talking heads tell you. Do you own homework. Watch that whole sermon and see what was really said. Do you know he talked about US foreign policy just 3 minutes before he said that famous "God d**n America"? There was a very extensive portion of that speech talking about the history of America. All you heard was 3 words. You can just about anything out of context. Sarah Palin had a guy touch her and cast out demons. That not seem a little crazy to you? It does to me but I still wanted to see what her policy positions were. When I realized she didn't really have any, all I was left was the witchdoctor who casts out her demons. Look up that Rev Wright sermon, watch all of it. I have, so should you.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 05:29 pm |
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I guess all of you who are in favor of the Robin Hood economic agenda of Barack Obama think all of these nobel prize winning economists don't know what they're talking about, huh?
http://www.economistsformccain.com/index.html
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TheBigShow wrote: Helen, have you actually watched that sermon and not just the God d**n America part? There was a lot more to that sermon and once you put it in context, it's a much different sermon than the 30 second clips you've probably seen. Truth is there are fiery pastors out there, all over America. At the chuch Sarah Palin goes to, a pastor from Jews for Jesus said the Jews got what they deserved for turning their backs to Jesus. Bombastic preachers can be found in every corner of America. What the preacher says doesn't mean the attendee does. The preacher at the church I used to go molested kids, does that mean everyone there molests kids or endorses it?
Your last point about the money Obama is spending is ludicrous. Seroiusly?? So he was supposed to give all his political donations to the banking industry? And McCain was supposed to what?
Objectivity Helen, repeat after me, ojectivity.
Objectivty is a good word , now do you know the meaning ? Obama just has to many issues in my opinion.
Unless he is dealing with a bout of Alzheimer each time one of his so called friend come into question he has no excuse to cover his back side.
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I love Rachel Maddow!
She is intelligent, her guests are supurb and she can always find an angle that can bring a smile to my face.
If I had my choice between meeting with McCain or Obama, I'd just have to leave McCain hanging, just like he's done to Arizonans for all these years. We didn't heed the warning of the Keating five scandal and now we have the same failures on a national scale.
Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat the same mistakes. Last edited on Fri Oct 31st, 2008 05:12 pm by anne.reed
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anne.reed wrote: gk wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8AJn_j014Y
Rush Limbaugh (and his endless spew of hateful rhetoric) is part of the problem.
If you seek the truth about OBama's position, check this out.
This speech is 1/2 hour long. But, it could be a crucial half hour to our continued prosperity. Please watch it and draw your own conclusion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X3eE18dfmE
Anne...I see you feel the same about Limbaugh the drug dealer, as I do.
IF you didn't watch Rachal Maddow's interview with Obama last night on MSNBC, you really missed a great insightful segment of that man. He has to be the calmest person alive. Such a steady hand and I like that he pauses before he answers a difficult question.....not the "impulsive" reactions of McCains, or the display of anger and discontent that McSame is well known for.....as was Khrushchev. I remember khrushchev (I think it was 1960) pounding his shoe and his fists on the desk at the United Nations, to help deliver his point. He didn't like what McMillian said, nor did he like the Phillippine delegate accusing him of Imperialism. Of course we lied about the U2 plane, so that made him mad too.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 04:34 pm |
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Helen, have you actually watched that sermon and not just the God d**n America part? There was a lot more to that sermon and once you put it in context, it's a much different sermon than the 30 second clips you've probably seen. Truth is there are fiery pastors out there, all over America. At the chuch Sarah Palin goes to, a pastor from Jews for Jesus said the Jews got what they deserved for turning their backs to Jesus. Bombastic preachers can be found in every corner of America. What the preacher says doesn't mean the attendee does. The preacher at the church I used to go molested kids, does that mean everyone there molests kids or endorses it?
Your last point about the money Obama is spending is ludicrous. Seroiusly?? So he was supposed to give all his political donations to the banking industry? And McCain was supposed to what?
Objectivity Helen, repeat after me, ojectivity.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 04:20 pm |
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So what do you think about Rev Wright
d**ning America sermon is that not wrong ?
I see that woman who had him investigated (Joe tjhe Plumber ) , losing her job and paying out big bucks personally .
And I wonder where would she get 2300 bucks to donate to Obama , to hear state workers talk they make no money.
Was she on the take from other sources ?
And then there is the closing arguments
All that money he's spending could have saved some of that 700 million by giving it back to the bankers
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 03:37 pm |
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gk wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8AJn_j014Y
Rush Limbaugh (and his endless spew of hateful rhetoric) is part of the problem.
If you seek the truth about OBama's position, check this out.
This speech is 1/2 hour long. But, it could be a crucial half hour to our continued prosperity. Please watch it and draw your own conclusion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X3eE18dfmE
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 01:17 am |
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OBAMA'S GAMBLE: POSSESSION NINE TENTHS OF THE LAW
By: Devvy
October 30, 2008
© 2008 - NewsWithViews.com
While the disgraced mainstream media continues to ignore the constitutional crisis regarding Obama's birth certificate, we the people will not be deterred from getting the truth.
Over the past two weeks I have received thousands of emails (which I cannot respond to one on one) from enraged Americans over Judge R. Barclay Surrick's decision in Berg v. Obama, et al (see here). Americans are energized and faxed their state officials demanding Obama's eligibility for ballot qualification be investigated. The responses from these elected public servants all provided basically the same response, here are just two:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd408.htm
so bigshoe, can we expect a link to the Lincoln Logs website ,or the Sponge Bob site now???
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 12:40 am |
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| It's called joking GK. Since you guys like to post the random blogs you love, I'm going post the random blogs I love.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 12:21 am |
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http://www.ps3fanboy.com
What's the point? NO one cares about your video games. Perhaps that is an area that you excel in. Go play!
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I can agree that some of the corporate bandits take obscene salaries and bonuses. Can you explain to me how Obama is going to put a stop to that. Sure he can increase the taxes on this scum, but there is no way he can stop corporations from paying whatever it takes to get the management they want. It's hard to blame Bush or any political party for this. It's called free enterprise. It has made American what it is today economically. Socialism (or restraint, if you prefer) can never supplant that.
qclars: You asked how Obama is going to put a stop to those corporate bandits and their obsence bonus's. First of all, it's our money they are working on. That should give us the right to regulation of that money. If they think it doens't, then someone has made a big mistake in this bailout plan and maybe the people need to be included in future negotiations. Nonetheless, that money better trickle down to us real fast, or Congress is in trouble. Bush will do nothing. Obama will as will McCain make sure that those funds are used for the right purpose. We're share holders in many of these banks now. We have a vote. And that will be no bonus's or golden parachutes, without our approval. Once we're paid back, then they'll hopefully be able to make good decisions on their own.....only with regulations and oversight this time around.
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Bambi wrote: Helen here wrote: http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/obama-jeremiah-wright-louis-farrakhan-white-folks-you-owe-us-the-whole-country-racist-hate-remarks/
I'm not sure Helen here what your objective was by posting this. Are you for it or against it or is it just biased information?
Citizenwells. A site already asking to impeach Obama. Do you know the costs of an impeachment process? The process went thru to try and impeach Clinton costs the taxpayer $70 million dollars....all because he had an illicit affair with Monica. And Bush and Cheny have pushed us into a war; destroyed our economy; and neglected the needs of the people, but because it wasn't sexual in nature I guess, they were not impeached. What a joke. The Moral Police won. And their friends, the rightwing radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh, famous drug dealer of Oxycoten, Fox News (Murdoch) and Anne Coulter, venemous diva of the talk circuit, stoking the fires with their libelous and lying agenda....a phoney puritanical mentality,
He was acquitted. That's what you got for that $70 million. Nothing.
But hey, I got to look at Monica Lewinsky over and over. I could see what Bill had for her. She was yummy!
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Helen here wrote: http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/03/24/obama-jeremiah-wright-louis-farrakhan-white-folks-you-owe-us-the-whole-country-racist-hate-remarks/
I'm not sure Helen here what your objective was by posting this. Are you for it or against it or is it just biased information?
Citizenwells. A site already asking to impeach Obama. Do you know the costs of an impeachment process? The process went thru to try and impeach Clinton costs the taxpayer $70 million dollars....all because he had an illicit affair with Monica. And Bush and Cheny have pushed us into a war; destroyed our economy; and neglected the needs of the people, but because it wasn't sexual in nature I guess, they were not impeached. What a joke. The Moral Police won. And their friends, the rightwing radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh, famous drug dealer of Oxycoten, Fox News (Murdoch) and Anne Coulter, venemous diva of the talk circuit, stoking the fires with their libelous and lying agenda....a phoney puritanical mentality,
He was acquitted. That's what you got for that $70 million. Nothing.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 09:54 pm |
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| Jeff, it's not relevant. He's admitted, in writing mind you, that he did drugs in his youth. Ok, so what? I would be willing to be that half of the CEO's in this country did some sort of drugs in the 1960's. I don't expect people to live their lives like they could someday run for president and neither should you. Each and every one of us has done something that if given media attention would make us look really bad. He admitted it, stopped doing it and is a good role model of what you can become without drugs. The guy was the first black president of Harvard Law, Jeff. If that doesn't prove he's cleaned up his act, I don't know what it takes to impress you.
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TheBigShow wrote: And Cindy stole money and drugs....exactly how does any of this address the economy, war or anything else? I smoked pot in my 20's. Guess what, I stopped doing them. So did Obama. Next?
what office is Cindy running for ?
i don't know if Obama did or didn't sell drugs from a hotdog cart or not, but... as a candidate for President of the United States, that story is more pertinent and worthy of investigation than one about someone who ISN'T running for public office.
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| And Cindy stole money and drugs....exactly how does any of this address the economy, war or anything else? I smoked pot in my 20's. Guess what, I stopped doing them. So did Obama. Next?
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ELECTION 2008
Marxist 'mentor' sold drugs with Obama
Alleged Communist Party member published book boasting of sex with minors
Posted: October 30, 2008
12:00 am Eastern
Frank Marshall Davis HONOLULU, Hawaii
– The late Marxist activist Frank Marshall Davis, frequently accompanied by young Barack Obama and his grandfather Stanley
Armour Dunham, sold marijuana and cocaine from a "Chicago style" hot dog cart Davis operated near his home on Kuhio Avenue in Waikiki in the early 1970s, WND has established.
A credible source, a well-known resident of Honolulu who spoke at length with WND on condition he not be named, disclosed that Davis was the source of drugs consumed by Obama
. Davis was also the author of an autobiographical novel boasting of "swinging" and sex with minors, a copy of which WND obtained from Andrew Walden, a resident of Hilo on the island of Hawaii and publisher of the Hawaii Free Press.
Obama, in his autobiographical book "Dreams from My Father," discloses that he used both marijuana and cocaine as a high school student living with his grandparents in their Honolulu apartment.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79467
Barack Obama's 'lost' brother found in Kenya
Senator Barack Obama's long lost brother has been tracked down for the first time living in a shanty town in Kenya, reports claimed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html
From The Times
October 30, 2008
Found in a rundown Boston estate: Barack Obama’s aunt Zeituni Onyango
'Auntie Zeituni', who, with Uncle Omar, dropped out of sight after moving to the US, is backing the presidential candidate from her modest flat
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5042571.ece
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| So funding him isn't as suspect as showing up to a speech? Use some objectivity Joe, come on man. This campaign has been filled with accusing people of doing things that the accuser has either done, or supported in the past. Last edited on Thu Oct 30th, 2008 07:31 pm by TheBigShow
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TheBigShow wrote: I'm so glad you brought up the PLO issue. The guy in the video that McCain is complaining about, McCain donated 500k to his group. Ooops.
No Ooops.
Joe_the_Plumber wrote:
I know, we are just supposed to sweep the associations, the toasts to the Palestinian Terrorists under the rug. We are not supposed to ask questions about the millions of dollars in contributions to Obama from unnamed sources. If you don't, you are a racist and just "not ready for a black President".
We are just supposed to "drink the Kook-aid and Shut Up!".
Obama and Khalidi closely tied
Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel. He has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.
During documented speeches and public events, Khalidi has called Israel an "apartheid system in creation" and a destructive "racist" state. He has multiple times expressed support for Palestinian terror, calling suicide bombings a response to "Israeli aggression."
He dedicated his 1986 book, "Under Siege," to "those who gave their lives ... in defense of the cause of Palestine and independence of Lebanon." Critics assailed the book as excusing Palestinian terrorism.
While McCain's known association with Khalidi apparently is limited to helping fund the CPRC, Obama has close ties to the professor.
According to a professor at the University of Chicago who said he has known Obama for 12 years, the Democratic presidential hopeful first befriended Khalidi when the two worked together at the university. The professor spoke on condition of anonymity. Khalidi lectured at the University of Chicago until 2003, while Obama taught law there from 1993 until his election to the Senate in 2004.
Khalidi in 2000 held what was described as a successful fundraiser for Obama's failed bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, a fact not denied by Khalidi.
Speaking in an interview with John Batchelor radio show, Khalidi was asked about his 2000 fundraiser for Obama.
"I was just doing my duties as a Chicago resident to help my local politician," Khalidi stated.
Khalidi said he supports Obama for president "because he is the only candidate who has expressed sympathy for the Palestinian cause."
Khalidi also lauded Obama for "saying he supports talks with Iran. If the U.S. can talk with the Soviet Union during the Cold War, there is no reason it can't talk with the Iranians."
In 2001 and 2002 the Woods Fund provided the grants to Khalidi's wife's anti-Israel group.
Obama borrowed phrase from Khalidi?
In his piece, "Palestine: Liberation Deferred," Khalidi suggests Israel carried out "ethnic cleansing" of Palestinians; writes Western powers backed Israel's establishment due to guilt of the Holocaust; laments the Palestinian Authority's stated acceptance of a Palestinian state "only" in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and eastern sections of Jerusalem; and argues Israel should be dissolved and instead a bi-national, cantonal system should be set up in which Jews and Arabs reside.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 06:41 pm |
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| I'm so glad you brought up the PLO issue. The guy in the video that McCain is complaining about, McCain donated 500k to his group. Ooops.
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Bambi wrote: Joe the Plumber and some other radicals, are now stating that Obama wants Death to Isreal. They are making signs and yelling it out.
He is sympathetic and has documented ties to the PLO which in no uncertain terms holds that position. I doubt he personally feels that way, but he is legitimizing those who do.
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DavidB wrote: TheBigShow wrote: Obama has "African Americans for Obama" signs and Palin has people screaming out "he's a nigger" at her rallies. If I were to put those two things in the racist-o-meter I think the "nigger" comment is gonna not only win but might blow up the machine.
Wow. So 1 idiot in a crowd yells a nasty slur. Now it's 'people' and 'rallies'. How was this the campaign's doing?
You didn't answer the question. What if at a McCain rally there were signs that read "White people for McCain"?
This is racism pure and simple. The message is "If you're African American you should be voting for Obama".
But David, this has happened over and over at their rallies. It's not one person. McCain himself had to yank a mic away from some deranged woman who was about to go off into the "Obama will lead the second 9/11" rant. If white people want to make a white people for Mccain sign, that's fine. The Republican National Convention pretty much sealed that up anyways.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 04:27 pm |
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Joe the Plumber and some other radicals, are now stating that Obama wants Death to Isreal. They are making signs and yelling it out. Others are coming up with other slurs. All for the purpose of destroying Obama's character with lies and distortions. It will only get worse, as the day draws near, where we will cast our votes. Tom Delay, who's corruption in Congress made him leave, states that Obama is a radical that shouldn't be believed, and that he will only destroy our Country. He stands behind what Michelle Bachman said, so that tells you a little about his character....hate mongers, both of them. They are losing control of what they have "controlled" for so long, and corrupted within our Congress with their own greed and self interest, prompted by self centered personalities.
That's all going to change soon, and America and it's people will once again be the benefactors of this Great Nation, and not just a few elitist, or congressmen/women who have been those benefactors. I think Sen. Stevens found out just recently that there are no free passes for those who are supposed to be representing us and acting on our behalf. And the oil companies will not get that $4 billion dollar tax cut they think they are getting from McCain. Or the wealthy the reduction in their taxes.
Once again, alternative energy is where alot of these jobs are going to be created. I believe Barry Obama said the Govt. will use $18 billion ( a year?) to stimulate and start this energy program, that will hire many Americans and put them back to work. He'll give to the Auto companies so they can retool their plants. Tax credits will abound for buying these energy efficient cars and other alternative products. Small business's will abound to produce these products with small business loans....which will create jobs.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 09:07 am |
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TheBigShow wrote: Obama has "African Americans for Obama" signs and Palin has people screaming out "he's a nigger" at her rallies. If I were to put those two things in the racist-o-meter I think the "nigger" comment is gonna not only win but might blow up the machine.
Wow. So 1 idiot in a crowd yells a nasty slur. Now it's 'people' and 'rallies'. How was this the campaign's doing?
You didn't answer the question. What if at a McCain rally there were signs that read "White people for McCain"?
This is racism pure and simple. The message is "If you're African American you should be voting for Obama".
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 08:33 am |
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Ummm David, in 2000 and 2004 Bush had bumper stickers made that said Viva Bush and even did an ad in Spanish. Rudy Guilianni and several other candidates running for the Republican ticket in 2008 also did ads in Spanish. That's a common practice nowadays. Only one I remember who didn't do it was Tom Tancredo.
Obama has "African Americans for Obama" signs and Palin has people screaming out "he's a nigger" at her rallies. If I were to put those two things in the racist-o-meter I think the "nigger" comment is gonna not only win but might blow up the machine. It's easy to count the number of times McCain or Palin have specifically addressed someone shouting out a comment with the word "nigger" in it....Never. Not once. When that girl carved a B into her face and then blamed it on a black guy, it was a Mccain staffer who called the tv stations to alert them to the story. Now why would the McCain campaign call tv stations to let them know about this story? Hmmmm....I wonder.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 06:51 am |
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It would seem Robin Hood is not content with wealth redistribution among the citizens of this country, he wants to redistribute our collective treasure to the rest of the world:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56405
This is your Democtratic senate and your wealth redistributor at work. Because, you know, people in all corners of the world are in more need than anybody that is reading this. Say goodbye to another $845B dollars.
Then there is the Jubilee Act which he co sponsored. Another $75B in debt forgiveness. And this guy is worried about us sending jobs and oil money overseas?
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/920-billion-more-to-bail-out-the-world/
This is what this guy is all about.
If you believe his lies about not taxing anyone under 250... 200... 150... whatever number they're using today, you might want to do just a little checking to see how allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire ( which he wholely admits he will do ) will effect you:
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/22958.html
The numbers don't lie. He's going to tax EVERYONE and EVERYTHING he can so he can distribute it as he and the Democratically controlled congress see fit.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 05:08 am |
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Did anyone catch the text printed on the placards people were holding during Obama's speech tonight?
Most of the cards read "Change we need". On the back of those cards was written "Cambio". For those of you who don't know, this is Spanish for change. Apparently this is so the illegal aliens who can't speak, read, or write English can read his message and join his cause to spread some wealth to them. This is a large contingent of his following, so I guess it makes sense.
Then I saw several cards that read "African Americans for Obama". Could you possibly get any more racist than that? What if at a McCain speech there were placards that read "White people for McCain". Can you imagine?
These placards weren't picket signs created by audience members, they were printed by his campaign.
Despicable.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 04:28 am |
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I received this via email from a friend and thought I'd share:
WE OR THE POLITICIANS STUPID OR WHAT?
It makes you wonder .......
This email comes in three parts....Make sure you read all three parts!
Part 1
In just one year. Remember the election in 2006?
Thought you might like to read the following:
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.
Since voting in a Democratic Congress
in 2006 we have seen:
1) Consumer confidence plummet;
2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $4.10 a gallon;
3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);
4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);
5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;
6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
7) Food prices skyrocketing over 30% in 1 year.
America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!
Remember it's Congress that makes law - not the President . He has to work with what's handed to him.
Quote of the Day .........'My friends, we live in the
greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll
join with me as we try to change it.' -- Barack Obama
Part 2:
Taxes...Whether Democrat or a Republican you will find these statistics enlightening and amazing.
[size=http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/151.HTML ]
Taxes under CLINTON -1999 Taxes under BUSH -2008
Single earning: Single earning:
30K - taxed- $ 8,400 & nbsp; 30K - taxed $ 4,500
50K - taxed $ 14,000 50K - taxed $ 12,500
75K - taxed $ 23,250 75K - taxed $ 18,750
Married earning: Married earning:
60K - taxed $16,800 60K - taxed $ 9,000
75K - taxed $ 21,000 75K - taxed $ 18,750
125K - taxed $ 38,750 125K -taxed $ 31,250
Barack Obama promises to return to the higher tax rates if elected. It is amazing how many people that fall into the categories above think Bush is screwing them and Bill Clinton was the greatest President ever.
If elected, Barack Obama has already promised that he will repeal the Bush tax cuts, and amazingly, a good portion of the people that fall into the categories above can't wait for it to happen. This is like the movie 'The Sting' with Paul Newman; you scam somebody out of some money and they don't even know what happened.
PART 3:
You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:
We have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror bankrupting us.
Read on for the reality of how the illegals are bankrupting our beloved United States of America:
The following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. URL's for verification of all the following facts.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2..2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://wwwcis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.HTML
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at: http://transcripts..cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border and as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border. Border patrol has still not been given authority to control these illegal crossings into the United States.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl..com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period. This is cheaper, much cheaper, than allowing the illegals to remain in the United States.
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION of American monies in remittances back to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States. Don't forget our young girls in high schools, middle schools, grade schools, being attacked by illegals, with the schools not taking corrective action in the young girls' behalf!!!
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
Are we THAT stupid? Or is it the politicians and the wealthy elite leading our country down the lane to bankrupt taxpayers and this country???
Organizations and politicians call us 'racist' if we complain about what the illegal aliens are costing taxpayers - US the taxpayers - and refuse to remedy this situation!!!
BE CAREFUL WHO YOU VOTE FOR IN NOVEMBER 2008!!!
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 04:20 am |
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qclars wrote: Bambi wrote: We are going to take this Country back to the principles of good government overseen by fair and honest public servants.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Sorry, was that out loud?
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 04:07 am |
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Bambi wrote:
How's $6.8 billion dollars sound to you to give their employees a bonus for their hard work they are completing this year. That kind of real sincere effort those Corporations made toward their employees is well deserved now isn't it? You know, the money that is supposed to filter down to Main Street, and not stay on Wall Street. That's $6.8 billion that each one of these Corporate recipients have set aside from the funds we gave them to pay their employees bonus's.....bonus's for what? For going broke? For failing? That would be Goldman/Sacs, Paulson's former employer, and the rest of those elitist. Using our money to pay bonus's for a company that "failed." Just let them function on their own....we trust those capitalist who ignore the people's generous gift to them.....trust them to use that money to trickle down to Main Street. No....we can't trust them. They are using that money for their own greed again. Deserved or not, we all have to take a huge hit, and that includes the Wall Street Employees. All the while almost 1,000,000 citizens of this Country have lost their jobs, and these guys should receive bonus's on top of their pay?
And people say Obama is going to hurt the economy....that he will tax unfairly. That he will bring in socialism. No....he will bring into the mix what is called "restraint". Restraining the elitist mind to conform to the democratic mind of fairness to all. Simply put: the rich have to change their way of thinking. They cannot expect to continue to dine on cavier and Don Perion, while the rest of us stand in line for a box of groceries to feed our families. That they will not have the influence they have had in the past over American policy. That position will belong to The majority and that majority is the middleclass. We are going to take this Country back to the principles of good government overseen by fair and honest public servants.
I can agree that some of the corporate bandits take obscene salaries and bonuses. Can you explain to me how Obama is going to put a stop to that. Sure he can increase the taxes on this scum, but there is no way he can stop corporations from paying whatever it takes to get the management they want. It's hard to blame Bush or any political party for this. It's called free enterprise. It has made American what it is today economically. Socialism (or restraint, if you prefer) can never supplant that.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 03:43 am |
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Joe_the_Plumber wrote: Oh, just so you know, Obama's plan defines 'rich' anyone making over $90,000 a year, because that's when his FICA tax cap comes off and you start paying an addition 7% of tax on each and every dollary you earn above the cap!
It's even worse if you own your own business because the company has to match the 7.x%. It's more like a 15% hit.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 11:12 pm |
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Joe_the_Plumber wrote: This isn't about me real estate lady. I am talking about Obama and Biden who have tossed out numbers as high as $250,000 and as low as $90,000. If you want to make this about me then let me know and I'll start finding out about all of your real estate transactions and who might have something to say about them. Wanna go there?
I am talking about those who are backing the idea of Joe the Plumber being an entrepreneur and using him as a poster "child". That he is not a fair example of an American Entrepreneur. Im talking issues. And I'm exercising my free speech rights. I don't know your real name, as you have a shield to prevent my knowing you, so how in the world can I make "it" about you? ...unless you really are Joe the Plumber. We're talking about issues here and politics....not personalities. I don't even know who you are. But, you know me and feel comfortable going after my business as you hide in anonymity. 
I don't take well to threats. If it is your intent to threaten people on here, as it appears, that disagree with you, by attacking them personally and threatening to go after their business, then I'm glad I know that now, and that you have made a public declaration of it. Please remember that from now on, I am not addressing you or including you in my conversations on here about public issues. If I use the name, Joe the Plumber, it's |