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QCVillager wrote:
i am just going through the MCSO Report for May and find the following entry...
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"on 4/20/09 at about 5:50 am a complainant in the xxxxx block of 214th St reported that persons unknown used what they believe to be a BB or a pellet gun and shot out a window of their vehicle while parked in the driveway."
this is well after the incident with gsbill's car
There were other incidents. Some were house windows that were shot out. Whats still curious is that 2 of the persons that had their stuff shot up both knew each other and were also involved in the anti median fight. These incidents were spread around QC. MCSO was bound by privacy issues and would not share the identities of all those that had property damage. Identities would be protected even if reports were paid for and ordered. The investigation dead ended and this issue is done. Stick a fork in it.
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Posted: Sat Jun 27th, 2009 02:50 am |
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i am just going through the MCSO Report for May and find the following entry...
"(Late April Reports)"
"on 4/20/09 at about 5:50 am a complainant in the xxxxx block of 214th St reported that persons unknown used what they believe to be a BB or a pellet gun and shot out a window of their vehicle while parked in the driveway."
this is well after the incident with gsbill's car
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| How come all of these no-name new posters keep getting censored? Here's a tip for the first timers: dropping F-bombs gets you thrown out, unless you're using it in it's appropriate context, such as in "F*** you CrimeFighter", then it's OK.
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So gsbill, you actually complained about this poster and had his membership canceled? That's kind of whipped man. And not really fair since you seem to be able to accuse someone of a crime and post other weird stuff, and you are allowed to keep your membership. You are a weird dude, dude!
Bill you seem to think just a couple of people have a problem with you. I have read your posts on STE and here and you just invite trouble! If someone goes up against you, you tend to say things to and about others that can really stir them up. Of course you're not sorry because you do no wrong.
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| hang in there Bill. Let'em rant and rave. I enjoy your postings as well as the others...well not too sure about BlackJack....he may be a teener caught up in the hype.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 08:26 pm |
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GSBill wrote: I could have passed on posting a darn thing about this. I felt it was the right public thing to do.
Oh please! The "right thing to do" was water way under the bridge, you never should have started this stupid thread to start with, casting blame on every person who ever took you to task, and your disappointment in not being able to cause QC Boiler further grief was oozing from every word.
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Bill I think you may be a serial donut thief. I have no proof of this per se, and if I discover that I'm wrong you definitely won't be getting an apology from me.
Ahhh! If you knew me you would know I am not a donut eater. None the less I could very well be jacking donuts for others in which case you would have to have enough info on me to make such a leap of faith. I doubt you have anything to go on. I'd venture to say the black market value for stolen donuts is probably not that great. As the economy worsens there may be an opportunity for such a service and I would be happy to employ you as my head stolen donut dealer. You could stand on the corner and sell small chunks in little baggies to donut addicts. Hang there until Obama is done saving us.
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 04:04 am |
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| Bill I think you may be a serial donut thief. I have no proof of this per se, and if I discover that I'm wrong you definitely won't be getting an apology from me.
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Given what I know of your personal character, I am not surprised in the least that you won't offer an apology for publicly accusing me of a crime. You're not one to ever admit when you're wrong.
I never accused you of anything. You are no more than an anonymous user on the internet, a fictitious poster that cannot be harmed. You were a suspect, innocent until proven guilty..and as I stated I really hoped it wasnt anybody from here. It never even got to innocent until proven guilty. Your own actions and words made you a suspect..not me.
You know absolutely nothing about me or my personal character. ZERO..If you actually knew me..you would have never in a million years made that statement.
I could have passed on posting a darn thing about this. I felt it was the right public thing to do. Its not a right or wrong issue. What would you know about whether or when I am right or wrong? Most discussions here are based on opinions.
You have been dead wrong regarding me several times. Are you ready to apologize?
If it makes ya feel better you'll be seeing a lot less of me on here in the future.
Enjoy!
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| Given what I know of your personal character, I am not surprised in the least that you won't offer an apology for publicly accusing me of a crime. You're not one to ever admit when you're wrong.
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Bill you seem to think just a couple of people have a problem with you. I have read your posts on STE and here and you just invite trouble! If someone goes up against you, you tend to say things to and about others that can really stir them up. Of course you're not sorry because you do no wrong.
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i never realized boiler was a suspect. his first post on here was what seemed to be a sympathetic voice. but perhaps i misread some sarcasm. my neighbor has a bb gun and if he met you, he might not like you bill. send me a pm and i'll give you his address. i think another neighbor kid has one. i saw a tall blonde woman with a beard buying one at walmart and i heard her murmer "effin gsbill. i'm gonna get him good!". when she saw me looking at her she ran and knocked over a pyramid of motor oil cans. it was really weird.
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I'll risk taking a bunch more crap with this post, but the info needs to be posted.
I am happy to announce that QC Boiler is no longer a suspect in the shooting of our van. It's a good thing that the incident is not related to this forum. The process played itself out in addition to the shooters doing more damage to other vehicles in Queen Creek.
QC still has a problem with vandals.
QC Boiler, given the situation, timing and your own comments regarding BB guns I won't be offering an apology. You made a darn good suspect.
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GSBills property damage is horrible and Lisa's situation with her horses are beyond words. I am so sorry for your loss, Lisa. Truly, it does make you wonder "what next". If someone can hurt/kill your animals the next step is a very dangerous one. What kind of person would disrespect another's property or hurt/kill an innocent animal-what horrible people in the world....very very sad
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orchardranchres wrote: I'm really sorry to hear about the damage to your car gsbill. I hope you can find the person that did it. I heard about a fire or bottle explosion in the street in the villages this week and that it might have been vandalism too. Do you know anything more about it? One person said it was like JO Combs bottle and the fire department had to go check it out.
Haven't heard anything about that. Thanks for the kind words. There are a lot of undesirable things going on in Queen Creek. QC gets reports from MCSO. Maybe ask somebody down at town hall.
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I'm really sorry to hear about the damage to your car gsbill. I hope you can find the person that did it. I heard about a fire or bottle explosion in the street in the villages this week and that it might have been vandalism too. Do you know anything more about it? One person said it was like JO Combs bottle and the fire department had to go check it out.
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Lisa..we had talked about your horses. Still ..so terrible. Your incident makes our incident sort of trivial except for the feeling regarding..."what might happen next?"
The kids out jacking stuff up would make my family feel better knowing we were not targeted. Unfortunately for now it looks like we were targeted.
A few years ago we had one horse with friends off off of Hawes Road and their stud horse was killed. They had tests done to see what it was and the vet told them somebody poisoned the horse.
Queen Creek may seem all nice and quiet on the surface but we have underlying issues just like every place else.
Lisa...you have a small mission to accomplish. Looking forward to getting the call!
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Lisa.Coletto.Cohen wrote: The very next day one of my horses died in my arms after being fine 20 minutes before, the next week another mysteriously got injured by an object that was never found. The surgeon who dealt with her said it was a pitchfork and they missed laming her for life by less than 1/2 an inch.
Being a HUGE animal lover myself, this story makes me sad, angry, and bewildered all at the same time. I'm sorry you had to live through that. People can be so cruel its scary.
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Thanks DB. We should have our system up an running in a week. I do appreciate your willingness to talk in person despite differences in opinion on an issue or two.
Great post therenow! This whole thing has given me pause about how I may get into things online in the future. I too hope its not anybody from here or any other board.
I have been critical of CF's position to remain unknown. I wonder if perhaps CF has had it right all along.
Its going to take some work to figure this all out both by MCSO and myself.
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I hesitate to share this but I had a very similar situation happen to me as happened to GSBill, with living animals at my home. I had gone to the police the day before after talking with our Town Manager about my concerns (which happened to be the very same as what happened the following day). The very next day one of my horses died in my arms after being fine 20 minutes before, the next week another mysteriously got injured by an object that was never found. The surgeon who dealt with her said it was a pitchfork and they missed laming her for life by less than 1/2 an inch. Everything was investigated by MCSO. My mistake in all of this was not doing a necropsy on the animal that died and pulling a drug screen on her, because I was in the middle of fighting with individuals who were well aware of how to give fast acting intravenous injections.
The bottom line is besides the grief (literally) and money that this cost me, it was a violation and intrusion at my home! I now wonder if my animals are safe in my own yard. I recognise MCSO can't be everywhere at all times. So the question becomes, what I as a private citizen can do to safeguard my private property? Would a block watch have made a difference? Or do I need to be more proactive and have security cameras everywhere? I now truely feel threatened.
I recognise Bill's need to attempt to locate the party responsible. I felt the exact same way. Unfortunately, I feel at the end, like me, he will be left with a suspicion, a whole bunch of circumstantial evidence and little else. I sincerely hope he finds out it was some stupid kid who randomly did this because that is psychologically much better than wondering what a particular individual will do next.
Bill, I am very sorry for what happened. I hope in the end it was not anyone here. While I will, (I'm sure like many of us) get frustrated , and mad even at some posters who do not see my way, I enjoy seeing things from different perspectives. I believe this is why I continue to stay involved in this community. There are some smart and interesting people on here, who challenge me to look at different sides of issues. Sometimes it goes a little too far but that is to be expected with opinionated individuals.
In the end it does not excuse the fact that this was a meaningless act that was uncalled for and clearly hurtful. I hope you find the person responsible.
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Very well said, TN. Sometimes one can become myopic when they are predisposed to an opinion. If it were me, despite the fact that it has been pretty rough here at times, I would be looking elsewhere.
Bill and I have gotten into it a few times here, but it doesn't mean I wish him or anyone ill will. What happened to him was a disgrace, but these kinds of things do happen all the time. The fact that no other car was vandalized does lead me to believe it was targeted, but it is all speculation at this point.
I know that I'm going to be finishing up my camera project this weekend as a result of this. It's been on my honey-do list for a long time...
Enjoy this awesome rain everyone. Good lucking nailing the fool, Bill. I would love to see one of these scumbags caught for once.
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after reading these posts, and the vandalism of GS Bills truck, I think it is the culmination of a lot of anonymous verbal vandalizing of opinions expressed on this post. Personalities seem to develop in our minds of the value of people through their opinions expressed here. First there is attempts at humorous rebuttal. Then it becomes more strident and now, the vandalism and the speculation that one or more posters who have formed a personal dislike of an anonymous poster allegedly have taken the ultimate step to break the laws of community and decent citizenship and vandalize anothers property. Even if this act did not occur through the actions of a poster, the suspicion that it did is enough to chill further conversations on this board.
I have read GS Bill's, Crime Fighter, Bambi, David B with interest and have enjoyed the opinions expressed. But never have I participated on a board where fellow posters were considered as carrying out a criminal act. I truly hope those who did will be caught and required to reimburse Bill and "do the time". And I truly hope the criminal is not a member of this board.
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Right. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you, eh GSBill?
This isn't the only forum that you have pissed off people!
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| Right. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you, eh GSBill?
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CrimeFighter wrote: This is paranoia at it's best. There are roughly 4.2 million people in the Phoenix MSA, yet GSBill is convinced that his list of suspects consist of the dozen or two people who post here on this board.
Guess what, there are plenty of people in the world who don't need an excuse to vandalize somebody's car.
Nice try.
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This is paranoia at it's best. There are roughly 4.2 million people in the Phoenix MSA, yet GSBill is convinced that his list of suspects consist of the dozen or two people who post here on this board.
Guess what, there are plenty of people in the world who don't need an excuse to vandalize somebody's car.
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starleen wrote: Nice job folks, you just crossed the line into defamation against QC Boiler.
GSBill, it was inappropriate and irresponsible of you to air this private issue on this public forum in such a way, allowing people to speculate about, and now accuse someone of, guilt. As a lynch mob you have great potential.
No...Not really. QC Boiler has been going after me for no reason for some time. Then he states he has a BB gun. Then my van is shot to hell. All the info is from this site. I just put some of it all together in one place.He makes for a good suspect. May lead to nothing. All his own words are repeated. There is no lynch mob.
One more thing. I am hoping its not anybody from here.
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Nice job folks, you just crossed the line into defamation against QC Boiler.
GSBill, it was inappropriate and irresponsible of you to air this private issue on this public forum in such a way, allowing people to speculate about, and now accuse someone of, guilt. As a lynch mob you have great potential.
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QC Boiler wrote: Chopperone wrote:
I dont know boiler you have been breaking chops awfully hard every chance you got You talk about your daisy bb gun a few days before gs has his car shot up You do make a prime suspect Go talk to the cops and clear things up
Oh please, maybe you did it. You should clear yourself.
QC Boiler, you got some 'splainin' to do!
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Thanks csi...appreciate that very much!
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GSBill wrote: CSI_QueenCreek wrote: QC Boiler wrote: QCAdvocate wrote:
The phrase is couldn't care less. I'd say QC Boiler makes a good suspect.
No, it's possible that I could care less. Thanks for the grammar check.
Oh no, I'm a suspect! I wonder when I should expect Gil Grissom from CSI to come knocking at my door. I hope he brings that good looking red head with him!
We will need to check your hands and clothing for GSR. Because of other obligations, I have assigned Stokes to work this one.
Not a laughing matter csi. I am surprised by your response and disregard for the work MCSO does. Dont forget who knows who around here. I surely wouldn't joke if somebody shot up your stuff. I had a really long talk with a mutual friend the other night....maybe an hour or so.. Perhaps you'll get caught up and then better understand the empty seat at lunch.
Somebody did over 1,000 dollars worth of damage to one of our vehicles with a BB gun.
I didn't know the damage was anything like $1000. I thought it was just a punk with a BB gun and that he just plunked out a single window or something.
You are 100% right that it is not a laughing matter at all. I am sorry I made light of it.
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QC Boiler wrote: Bill,
I'm sorry to read this. I've had my car broken into. It's such a violation. I hope you know that even if I knew where you live, which I don't, that I would never vandalize your property.
I hope you catch 'em!
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http://www.newszapforums.com/view_topic.php?id=83979&forum_id=26&jump_to=495154#p495154
After all the comments from others, I finally understand that you're accusing me of this crime. Do you care to come out and say it?
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I dont know boiler you have been breaking chops awfully hard every chance you got You talk about your daisy bb gun a few days before gs has his car shot up You do make a prime suspect Go talk to the cops and clear things up
Oh please, maybe you did it. You should clear yourself.
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I dont know boiler you have been breaking chops awfully hard every chance you got You talk about your daisy bb gun a few days before gs has his car shot up You do make a prime suspect Go talk to the cops and clear things up
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CSI_QueenCreek wrote: QC Boiler wrote: QCAdvocate wrote:
The phrase is couldn't care less. I'd say QC Boiler makes a good suspect.
No, it's possible that I could care less. Thanks for the grammar check.
Oh no, I'm a suspect! I wonder when I should expect Gil Grissom from CSI to come knocking at my door. I hope he brings that good looking red head with him!
We will need to check your hands and clothing for GSR. Because of other obligations, I have assigned Stokes to work this one.
Not a laughing matter csi. I am surprised by your response and disregard for the work MCSO does. Dont forget who knows who around here. I surely wouldn't joke if somebody shot up your stuff. I had a really long talk with a mutual friend the other night....maybe an hour or so.. Perhaps you'll get caught up and then better understand the empty seat at lunch.
Somebody did over 1,000 dollars worth of damage to one of our vehicles with a BB gun.
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QC Boiler wrote: QCAdvocate wrote:
The phrase is couldn't care less. I'd say QC Boiler makes a good suspect.
No, it's possible that I could care less. Thanks for the grammar check.
Oh no, I'm a suspect! I wonder when I should expect Gil Grissom from CSI to come knocking at my door. I hope he brings that good looking red head with him!
We will need to check your hands and clothing for GSR. Because of other obligations, I have assigned Stokes to work this one.
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The phrase is couldn't care less. I'd say QC Boiler makes a good suspect.
No, it's possible that I could care less. Thanks for the grammar check.
Oh no, I'm a suspect! I wonder when I should expect Gil Grissom from CSI to come knocking at my door. I hope he brings that good looking red head with him!
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The phrase is couldn't care less. I'd say QC Boiler makes a good suspect.
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QC Boiler wrote: Bill,
I'm sorry to read this. I've had my car broken into. It's such a violation. I hope you know that even if I knew where you live, which I don't, that I would never vandalize your property.
I hope you catch 'em!
Boily
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http://www.newszapforums.com/view_topic.php?id=83979&forum_id=26&jump_to=495154#p495154
I could care less if you believe me or not, but I don't want any vandalism in our town.
Just curious though, what does my sarcastic response to an article about health care being used to track gun ownership have to do with your vandalism?
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DavidB wrote: Cameras are a great deterrent.
Already in the works!
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geaston wrote: those sorts of signs don't do squat as we all know. we need more community vigilance- it's total crap that this stuff happens
I watch my block. What works well is we have several block parties per year. There is only so much we can all do. Short of having night watches on shifts, I dont know.
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those sorts of signs don't do squat as we all know. we need more community vigilance- it's total crap that this stuff happens
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geaston wrote: what's up with our neighborhood watch program? i went to an event at the clubhouse about a year ago and signed up for it but never heard from anyone- i think it was someone who lives in the neighborhood that was heading it up. i live near the south loop entrance and i know one house that had 3 cars' tires slashed one night and several other car break ins. i actually had my pool wrench stolen- my pool wrench!
Only one gal was doing it. Havent heard a thing since. The crooks dont mind the signs we have posted. We just had a bunch of tires slashed on the far east end of our block.
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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 05:25 pm |
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GSBill wrote: I wonder if they'll track my Daisy BB gun!?
Oh boy...
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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 04:56 pm |
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what's up with our neighborhood watch program? i went to an event at the clubhouse about a year ago and signed up for it but never heard from anyone- i think it was someone who lives in the neighborhood that was heading it up. i live near the south loop entrance and i know one house that had 3 cars' tires slashed one night and several other car break ins. i actually had my pool wrench stolen- my pool wrench!
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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 02:44 pm |
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QC Boiler wrote: Bill,
I'm sorry to read this. I've had my car broken into. It's such a violation. I hope you know that even if I knew where you live, which I don't, that I would never vandalize your property.
I hope you catch 'em!
Boily
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Joined: Thu Aug 21st, 2008 Location: Town Of Queen Creek Posts: 111 Status: Offline Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 08:58 pm Quote Reply No good! I wonder if they'll track my Daisy BB gun!?
http://www.newszapforums.com/view_topic.php?id=83979&forum_id=26&jump_to=495154#p495154
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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 04:36 am |
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QC Boiler wrote: I hope you catch 'em!
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Posted: Wed Apr 8th, 2009 04:23 am |
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Bill,
I'm sorry to read this. I've had my car broken into. It's such a violation. I hope you know that even if I knew where you live, which I don't, that I would never vandalize your property.
I hope you catch 'em!
BoilyLast edited on Wed Apr 8th, 2009 04:27 am by
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Posted: Tue Apr 7th, 2009 07:13 pm |
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DavidB wrote: While its no secret what I think about you, I am not the type of person to pull that kind of crap either.
I know that.
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