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bobthebuilder
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Posted: Tue Jun 16th, 2009 01:52 am |
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The list of new stores and restaurants looks pretty cool.
Yay for Macayo's. One of my favorites.
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starleen wrote: IHOP
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Bambi2 wrote: Waiting to break even Jrenae? You might have a bit of a wait I'm afraid. We just listed a beautiful home in Orchard Ranches recently. The owners paid over $800k for it in 06. We have listed it in the mid $400k's.....as that's the market it appears, based on comps. Many have looked at it, so people are still out there buying. One couple is pursuing it. But they are looking for and buying "deals." So hang on while you ride this out and continue to enjoy all of us on here.
The house I mentioned in Orchard Ranches we just listed? We have an offer with several backups...all for the full price. Now the next home to go on the market there should raise their price slightly, using this one as a comp., as it's apparent people have the urge, the money and financing qualifications out there to purchase these higher end homes. They just won't pay those high prices acquired via the Boom. This should be a slow climb, with concerted efforts of eliminating those thoughts of doubling your investment in a short time....a recipe for out of control inflation.
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jrenae
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Posted: Mon Jun 15th, 2009 05:26 am |
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Do you think putting your kid into an Oregon school over an Arizona school will magically make them succeed? Nope.
They'll succeed no matter where they go. But coming to OR for school might make them want to stay there. The more family in OR, the better.
vs. "cloudy and rainy for 9 straight months"
I find it refreshing and would be happy there the rest of my life. The sunlight and warm and HOT in the desert is just overkill and I'm sick of being sick to my stomach when it's over 90 and I'm tired of being exhausted after running a couple of errands despite A/C in the car and A/C in stores, public places, home. And I'm tired of the sunlight and heat-caused headaches.
There is a lot more that goes into a successful school experience than some arbitrary ranking. When I lived in Oregon I was terrified of sending my kids to school there because the teachers were guaranteed to spend half of every day indoctrinating them with Marxist theory, environmental radicalism, lesbian and gay pride, and the benefits of recreational drug use. Tough for your kid to make it into Harvard when they are stoned out of their mind living in a hippie commune.
Sounds like a lot of paranoia to me. My step-mother in law raised 8 very well adjusted kids in OR and 4 of them still live in OR raising their rather conservative (not freaky far-right paranoid conservative like you, but more middle of the road level-headed conservative) families. My very conservative step-MIL returned to OR (and brought my FIL with her) after living away from OR for awhile. If it was as stoned-out and hippie to the point of being terrifying that you describe, people wouldn't have the ability to do that.
Frankly, I find it very concerning that as a school teacher you take such a dim view of the state you work in. How about trying to improve your local environment rather than bagging on it?
It's because I work as a teacher in this state that I see how dim it is. And I do my best to try to improve it and do what I can in my arena. I werite letters. I speak out. But it doesn't change my desire to move on elsewhere.
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Posted: Mon Jun 15th, 2009 03:33 am |
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Oh, of course, you meant that Oregon is top ten in one graduate program out of the hundreds of programs that are offered by any university. In that case, ASU and UofA are also top ten schools, as they probably have a top ten rating in basket weaving or golf course management or something along those lines.
The influence of illegals is not insignificant in lowering the overall averages. All I know is that my kids are going to be straight A students, test in the top percentage of the nation, and get in to whatever university they set their sights on. Is this because of the local school district or state education system? No, it's because I as their parent will do what it takes to help them achieve it.
Do you think putting your kid into an Oregon school over an Arizona school will magically make them succeed? Nope. You probably care more about things like funding per student and teacher salary than I do since it's your profession. All I care is that the schools offer AP and honor classes so my kids can reach their potential, which they can do just as easily with less likelihood of scurvy here in sunny AZ vs. "cloudy and rainy for 9 straight months" Oregon. Frankly, I find it very concerning that as a school teacher you take such a dim view of the state you work in. How about trying to improve your local environment rather than bagging on it?
There is a lot more that goes into a successful school experience than some arbitrary ranking. When I lived in Oregon I was terrified of sending my kids to school there because the teachers were guaranteed to spend half of every day indoctrinating them with Marxist theory, environmental radicalism, lesbian and gay pride, and the benefits of recreational drug use. Tough for your kid to make it into Harvard when they are stoned out of their mind living in a hippie commune.
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jrenae
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Posted: Mon Jun 15th, 2009 03:10 am |
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Where did you come up with this?
Is GRADUATE schools not the same? Sorry. :eyeroll: Gee, guess I'm in the mode of looking for masters schools and graduate schools while also looking to the future for my own children.
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-education-schools/rankings
You still didn't answer this:
So if Arizona is superior to Oregon in every possible way (your words, not mine) How do explain the #50 in the nation spot AZ has? Besides the tired illegal immigrant answer. They're not the only reason for the #50 spot.
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 10:57 pm |
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jrenae wrote: The University of Oregon is not one of the top ten schools in the nation just because they don't have as many illegal immigrants. Please.
Where did you come up with this? University of Oregon is not even close to being one of the top ten schools in the nation. They aren't even in the top 100 according to US News, which is the ranking publication that everyone uses:
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search/title+oregon
They did come in at #14 in reefer madness in the Princeton Review, though. That's a top ten list that they may be able to make. Top ten university overall? Not in this lifetime.
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jrenae
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 10:37 pm |
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Remove the illegals from Arizona's statistics and you'll find that we have an awesome education system.
Oh please. If you blame them for all the problems with AZ education, then you have some denial and shortsightedness going on there. Sure, that's part of it, but not responsible for all the factors that put AZ as #50.
The University of Oregon is not one of the top ten schools in the nation just because they don't have as many illegal immigrants. Please.
So if Arizona is superior to Oregon in every possible way (your words, not mine) How do explain the #50 in the nation spot AZ has? Besides the tired illegal immigrant answer. They're not the only reason for the #50 spot.
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 09:44 pm |
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| Remove the illegals from Arizona's statistics and you'll find that we have an awesome education system.
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 09:01 pm |
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| Waiting to break even Jrenae? You might have a bit of a wait I'm afraid. We just listed a beautiful home in Orchard Ranches recently. The owners paid over $800k for it in 06. We have listed it in the mid $400k's.....as that's the market it appears, based on comps. Many have looked at it, so people are still out there buying. One couple is pursuing it. But they are looking for and buying "deals." So hang on while you ride this out and continue to enjoy all of us on here.
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jrenae
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 05:07 pm |
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We're planning on moving to Wickenburg when we can at least break even on our house. So we're stuck here for awhile.
The reason you don't see Wal-Mart is because the local politicians are in the pocket of Fred Meyer and do everything they can to restrict competition against their inferior local businesses.
Sounds good to me. You paint it like it's a bad thing. Funny how "good things" can be viewed as bad by some people. 
We love it and we don't care if a couple of tenants turn over due to the downturn.
Speak for yourself. I'm a QC resident too. My husband also feels the way I do, and he's more "right leaning" too. 
Arizona is superior in every possibly way to the place you are vacationing.
Every possible way? Okay. Let's compare education. Let's compare AZ's education to Oregon.
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 04:37 pm |
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I watched a good history lesson on tv last night.
It was about the fur trappers entering the West during the 1830's bringing a huge business into our country for others to follow and engage in. As long as the fur industry was doing well in the market place, there was a huge demand and money to be made by all, thru free enterprize.
Then came two things into the market place: First, the beavers numbers begin to dwindle, so fewer "business" opportunities. Second, The demand subsided as a result. That meant loss of revenue. The Trappers business's were doomed, and they had to stop and close their efforts. What to do now? Many looked elsewhere for other types of business's to open. Trappers decided to become consultants and tour guides. They wrote books about their adventures. They gave lectures. All innovative ways to continue free enterprize....if one only looks and acts upon it.
The reason Office Max had to leave was pure and simple. Lack of customers. When your customer base increases again, by the economy bouncing back, you'll see them return. Competition works in the same area for these big boys, but only with a large customer base.
Remember that Franchises can be locally owned by your mom and pops. Denny's is a franchise, with local mom and pops in ownership, but it also has corporate owned stores. Mcdonalds is a franchise. Burger King too. And Subway. They pay the parent company to "support them". But they need the support of the locals too, as many are locals.
These corporations need to continue, so they will explore other innovative ways to draw in the customers thru innovative types of business's. Loose one, start up another type. Just like the Fur Trappers did.
Your Town will come back. Just be patient.
Jrenae. Didn't you move to Wickenburg? Glad to hear from you again. Hit up Staples for your discount.
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 02:07 pm |
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Jrenae, I've lived in Oregon, and it's a rain drenched rathole. The reason you don't see Wal-Mart is because the local politicians are in the pocket of Fred Meyer and do everything they can to restrict competition against their inferior local businesses. When I lived there people would drive 45 minutes to get to the Wal-Mart just so they didn't get ripped off at Fred Meyer.
Arizona also has more land set aside for open space than Oregon. We also don't have the highest unemployment rate in the nation like Oregon. Arizona is superior in every possibly way to the place you are vacationing.
Get over complaining about our retail. We love it and we don't care if a couple of tenants turn over due to the downturn. That's happening around the country and it doesn't prove you were right about anything.
And yes, you guessed it, I don't care about office products because I can't read. The fact that words happen to come together in meaningful responses when I post is pure monkey / typewriter style serendipity.
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jrenae
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 06:55 am |
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I agree Villager. it's said they do that for "competition", but that's bullcrap. We don't need two of everything. And OVERdevelopment is the bad idea I am focusing on.
I just wish it wasn't Office Max to go, as personally, they're the ones I get a teacher's discount from. Oh well. I'll just go to the next closest one, but I hate that all this was forced on us, and now we have to watch them fall like dominos. Funny how all this was painted to be so exciting and needed (many opf us saw through it, but money talked, so it came in anyway), and now look? Vacant spots.
I'm currently vacationing in Oregon for a little while, and even in the bigger city populated areas, you don't see Wal-Marts across from Targets, Staples across from Office Max's, Petcos across from Petsmarts, etc. There are Mom and Pop shops everywhere even if there is a Rite Aid, Walgreens, Fred Myer or another larger chain nearby, and the open land is actually preserved in some places (I know, what a concept!!!). It's a nice quaint mix. I don't know why it has to be overkill down in AZ, where the asphalt brings in so much more heat anyway. We have enough as it is!
I just don't get it. It's just not logical. But the human race isn't logical. Just thinking with their pocketbooks and nothing else.
Who buys office products out here anyway?
Some of us that are literate. I know that's a foreign concept to you. I guess you don't use a computer? (though it's obvious you do?) Write with a pen? Print on paper? Have ink in your printer? File tax returns and major receipts? Yeah, no one "out here" buys stuff for that. : eyeroll : Not that Office Max closing will be that difficult for anyone, considering Staples across the street, but like I said, two of everything in overkill and BS.
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 06:17 am |
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| developement...not a bad idea, but think it is ridiculous to have staples and office max, petsmart and petco, walgreens and CVS, Target and walmart, etc.
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 05:36 am |
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IHOP
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 04:23 am |
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CrimeFighter wrote: Who buys office products out here anyway? This could be an improvement in our shopping options when the space is re-tenanted with a more relevant store.
Bath & Body Works, Macayo's at Marketplace David Woodfill, Tribune
June 5, 2009 - 6:36PM
 Queen Creek Marketplace officials announced the addition of Bath & Body Works and Macayo's Mexican Kitchen. June 5, 2009.
SUBMITTED PHOTO Queen Creek Marketplace, the town's first major shopping center, will add two new stores to its roster, the mall announced on its Web site.
Bath & Body Works and Macayo's Mexican Kitchen will join two other retailers - Chick-fil-A and Yogurt Jungle - that recently announced opening plans at the outdoor mall, according to the Marketplace's Web site.
Yogurt Jungle is planning a July opening, followed by Chick-fil-A in October. It's not clear when Bath & Body Works and Macayo's will open, and Queen Creek Marketplace officials couldn't be reached for comment Friday.
The stores will join two of the Marketplace's most recent additions - Saba's Western wear and cosmetic retailer Ulta, which both opened in late February. In-N-Out Burger also announced plans around the same time to open at the Queen Creek Marketplace, but didn't specify an opening date.
The news hasn't always been so rosy for the Queen Creek Marketplace. OfficeMax became the second major retailer to announce its departure from the shopping center. It will close June 27. It follows electronics retailer Circuit City, which closed late last year.
John Kross, Queen Creek town manager, is upbeat about the 1.1 million-square-foot shopping center's growing roster.
"There's a net increase certainly in terms of tenants," he said. "That's a very positive sign, no question about it."
Bob Kammrath, a Phoenix-based retail analyst, said it's an encouraging sign, but the stores aren't big enough to offset the blow from losing major tenants Circuit City and OfficeMax.
"It sounds like a majority of what they're putting in there are pads," he said. "Certainly it's not bad news, but it doesn't take the place of a big draw."
Kammrath said a positive sign is that two strong retailers - Macayo's and Bath & Body Works - have decided the center is viable for them.
"On the other hand, the question is why did OfficeMax leave?" he said. "That's a viable company, too.
"Maybe what it amounts to is it takes time to figure out what the proper mix should be. Maybe OfficeMax just wasn't right for that location."
The area of Queen Creek where the mall is has seen an explosion of new shopping amenities in recent years, with a fourth shopping center - Queen Creek Crossroads at the southeast corner of Ellsworth and Rittenhouse roads - currently under construction. The five-acre center's developer - Mesa-based Pacific Western Partners - plans to finish work by the end of summer.
Another nearby shopping center, Queen Creek Fiesta, is also showing signs of life. The town's first McDonald's restaurant, which opened in March, joined Discount Tire at the 26,000-square-foot center at the southwest corner of Rittenhouse and Ellsworth roads. According to the town, proposed tenants include AmTrust Bank, Brake Masters, IHOP, KFC and Arby's.
Queen Creek Marketplace saw a half-million shoppers and reached 85 percent occupancy in its first year of operation, officials said in March.
Kross said the trade area has about 115,000 people, who include Gilbert and Pinal County residents. He said officials expect that number to grow to 300,000 within 20 years.
Mall officials have said in the past that they expect Queen Creek Marketplace to produce more than $80 million in sales taxes receipts for the town over a 20-year span.
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bobthebuilder
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 04:18 am |
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I've always like Staples better anyway. I go there when I need stuff.
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 03:40 am |
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| Who buys office products out here anyway? This could be an improvement in our shopping options when the space is re-tenanted with a more relevant store.
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jrenae
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Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2009 02:24 am |
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Not Office Max in general (unlike Circuit City), but our Office Max. Gee, didn't it just open in 07? Exactly.
Again, thanks Queen Creek for all the concrete. We were promised open spaces, but instead, we get vacant spaces.
And don't blame the recession. This was all a bad idea for the area BEFORE the recession. The recession just sped up the inevitable.
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