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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 07:51 pm
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$100k was the buy-in essentially and was for first year.  it included 3 people staffing/manning cameras for the first year.  it included the costs for some camera and audio equipment, some lighting, etc...

now, we have just one person running everything.  we own the cameras, lights, mics, etc...  so we get it done for around $25k per year

luckily, no shower pics around.  plus, my kids know that i would love have a 3rd bay for my garage... if they do something too bad, i'll just convert one of their bedrooms into that 3rd bay.  LOL

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 03:48 pm
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GSBill wrote: If you do that ditch the crappy coverage on Ch 11 and save the 100k per year. Buy one or 2 digital video cams to record the meetings, have permanent mounts in the chambers for them and post the recordings to the new FB site and the towns website for us to view when we want to. Figure it out. Save around 100k. While your at it go after the crooked slugs at Cox..our channel 11 absolutely sucks.
Bill, we literally pay about 1/4th of the amount you mention.  we have 3 digital cameras that are remotely controlled throughout the council chambers on permanent mounts.

the recordings will continue to be hosted on our servers and will continue to utilize granicus software for the web stream (which is accessed via town website) and will likely post a link on an FB page pointing to them.

we will continue to rebroadcase the meetings on cable channel 11.  just watched it last night and the quality of the recent news conference about the State budget was top notch (if you missed it, see here...  VIDEO


Was the 100k over a period of years then? Its been awhile. Thanks. If you get the FB running just be sure your kids dont post pictures of you in the shower.

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starleen wrote: What, its too hard to answer their email traffic? I wouldn't want the council's time sucked away into "popular social websites." They need to keep their focus on critical issues without distractions from pop culture venues. Oh, but, is there an election coming soon?


Starleen, i have been the biggest proponent for a town FB page.  i took Town Staff to some social media training months ago, and am a member of some Web Content managers forums specifically for Gov't.  my term isn't up for 3 years (heck, for me, it would be premature to even decide if i would run again). 

you can rest assured that the FB page idea has NOTHING to do with elections.  you can rest assured that we will NOT let a Town run FB page (run with Town Staff time) be utilized for anything even remotely resembling campaigning.  give me at least a LITTLE bit of credit here please.

 

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 03:31 pm
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GSBill wrote: halos02 wrote:
I would like to see each Council Member have a place on the Town’s page for questions and answers.

I think Facebook now offers nicknames, so Crimefighter can stay under the radar.


That way you could pick and choose questions like Kross does with question of the week. Best to answer emails like you are doing now. Get the rest of the crew to do the same.


as Bill knows, i for one nswer EVERY email that comes in, and do so in a very prompt fashion.  i don't pick and choose.  (since election, there have been a couple that landed in SPAM folder or that i just plain missed, but i receive a fairly high number of emails and am at 99% or higher for return rate)

even though the Town Mgr's (John Kross) only gets to highlight ONE "Question of the Week" in the weekly update... (due to just how much people will read) that isn't to say that he doesnt respond to all other emails.  i am personally aware of just how many emails he receives per week and can tell you that he does a fantastic job of being responsive.  recognize that... on a daily basis... he is the person tasked with running the Town.  the Council gives him the marching orders and sets policy and sets the rules... but then he has to go out and play the entire game by those rules.  his work load is massive and i quite honestly am very impressed with the speed and accuracy of his product.

i won't speak for any Council member other than myself, but i quite honestly have a very strong suspicion that each of them feel as though i do... that an FB page isn't a substitute for email... but simply ANOTHER avenue to reach the citizens. 

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 03:20 pm
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GSBill wrote: If you do that ditch the crappy coverage on Ch 11 and save the 100k per year. Buy one or 2 digital video cams to record the meetings, have permanent mounts in the chambers for them and post the recordings to the new FB site and the towns website for us to view when we want to. Figure it out. Save around 100k. While your at it go after the crooked slugs at Cox..our channel 11 absolutely sucks.
Bill, we literally pay about 1/4th of the amount you mention.  we have 3 digital cameras that are remotely controlled throughout the council chambers on permanent mounts.

the recordings will continue to be hosted on our servers and will continue to utilize granicus software for the web stream (which is accessed via town website) and will likely post a link on an FB page pointing to them.

we will continue to rebroadcase the meetings on cable channel 11.  just watched it last night and the quality of the recent news conference about the State budget was top notch (if you missed it, see here...  VIDEO

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 03:19 pm
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Just another facet of transparency that is required of public servants, and to hold them accountable for what they say and do on the residents behalf.  Once it's in print or on tape, it "sticks" permanently....unless you provide an editing option.

Remember the higher standard PS are held to and the people's expectations of holding up that standard, are always improved thru current technology that allows us to keep abreast of their public dealings.....whether it's good or bad, we all should be aware of how PS "operate" on behalf of residents.  That way, there will be no surprises come election time.

PS's may end up wishing they didn't agree to this, as emails are only between the PS and the writer of the email.  This technology will put them on "Stage." So they better be ready for what comes their way.

 

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 03:04 pm
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halos02 wrote:
I would like to see each Council Member have a place on the Town’s page for questions and answers.

I think Facebook now offers nicknames, so Crimefighter can stay under the radar.


That way you could pick and choose questions like Kross does with question of the week. Best to answer emails like you are doing now. Get the rest of the crew to do the same.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 03:02 pm
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If you do that ditch the crappy coverage on Ch 11 and save the 100k per year. Buy one or 2 digital video cams to record the meetings, have permanent mounts in the chambers for them and post the recordings to the new FB site and the towns website for us to view when we want to. Figure it out. Save around 100k. While your at it go after the crooked slugs at Cox..our channel 11 absolutely sucks.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 07:13 am
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What, its too hard to answer their email traffic? I wouldn't want the council's time sucked away into "popular social websites." They need to keep their focus on critical issues without distractions from pop culture venues. Oh, but, is there an election coming soon?

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 06:42 am
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I would like to see each Council Member have a place on the Town’s page for questions and answers.

I think Facebook now offers nicknames, so Crimefighter can stay under the radar.

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 05:28 am
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Having a FB group page for the town is a great idea. No reason you can't do both.

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LOL  -  that was just to placate those on the Council who thought than an FB site could get out of control.  i just want us to have an FB page to reach MORE people and for them to be able to essentially follow the going's on.  just a new medium to reach as many people as possible.

for me, an FB page could never replace the type of in depth dialog (and Smack) that are available on a forum such as this.  this type forum will still be the place to have ongoing dialog on issues.  but let's face it... more people in Town have FB pages than hit Newszap.  i just want our Town to be able to touch those people where they are.  basically, i want to bring our message to as many people as possible and utilizing whatever tool they feel comfortable using.  seems that FB is very comfortable to MANY TOQC'rs

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 Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 04:23 am
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Queen Creek Councilman Jeff Brown says this is a move in the right direction for the town of Queen Creek. He also said that when Web site users are required to register their names, comments left are usually toned down a bit.


This is clearly targeted anti-Crimefighter legislation, pure and simple.  I will be sure to lodge an anonymous lawsuit against registration of citizens on this board.  Brown, that was a terrible comment to make to the papers; whose side are you on anyway?  And what use would a town blog be without me?  It will be more of the pat-each-other-on-the-ass type talk, not the quality smack that all of you are accustomed to me dishing up on a regular basis.  Maybe Jesse Jackson can help me on this one...

 

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Town discusses use of
popular social Web sites


By Terrance Thornton
Independent Newspapers


To maintain its "long-standing" policy of communicating with its constituents, the town of Queen Creek needs to keep pace with the various opportunities social media Web sites present, town officials contend.


Queen Creek Town Council on June 17 heard a presentation on the possibility of the town jumping into the world of social media, using among other Web sites, Twitter and Facebook.


Although town officials contend they want to be a part of the social virtual landscape, they do not want to participate in blogs, namely http://www.newszap.com, according to a June 17 report to council.


Newszap is a service of Independent Newspapers Inc., which owns the Queen Creek Independent newspaper. The interactive Web site has forums for public issues and local news. Users must register to post and must agree to abide by a member pledge.


"The town of Queen Creek does not participate on community blogs such as Newszap, and staff is not recommending that it begin now," the report states. "... it would set a precedent of answering questions and complaints that are posted anonymously as well as create an expectation among the public that staff is online 24 hours a day, seven days a week to respond to them."


The social Web sites town staff are recommending usage of are YouTube, Flickr, Facebook and Twitter, according to the report to council.


"The town of Queen Creek has a long-standing policy of a high level of communication," said Dee Anne Thomas, Queen Creek Information and Marketing Services Department director, during the June 17 Queen Creek council meeting. "I think Queen Creek can be very proud of that."


Ms. Thomas said because the traditional media world — newspapers, T.V. and radio stations — are experiencing staff reductions and bankruptcies, the town has to evolve with the changing marketplace.


"We need to continue to maximize our services and how we communicate with residents," she said of how the World Wide Web is changing how residents get their information. "This could be an opportunity for Queen Creek to be a leader in the drafting of these policies."


Four members of council agreed with Ms. Thomas, but also voiced concern over the town’s usage of social Web sites.


"There is a lot of good, but there is also a lot of bad with them too," said Queen Creek Councilman Craig Barnes during the meeting.


Mr. Barnes asked that if the town is seeking community participation on a social Web site such as Facebook, then what is the difference between that and a blog.


"Aren’t we just turning our own site to a newszap?" he asked.


Mr. Barnes said the possibility for frivolous attacks on character or inaccurate information could become a problem with a social Web site.


"It caused a lot of problems," he said of past experiences where inaccurate information had been posted online. "Well, it opens up to that kind of stuff."


The issues pertaining to the legal ramifications of a public entity using a social Web site were also discussed during the June 17 presentation.


Certain issues being looked into were what constitutes a public record and how would open meeting law pertain to town council using a social Web site.


"Some of this is a developing field," said Fredda J. Bisman, Queen Creek town attorney, after the meeting. "What constitutes a record?"


Ms. Bisman says there is not much to comment on the issue because there has been little legal precedent on the issue.


"It only concerns the town if it is town business, but I don’t think anyone had ever contemplated this," she said.


Queen Creek Mayor Art Sanders said that although negative comments may come via the Web, it is important the town is aware of all opinions.


"I would welcome negative comments," he said during the meeting. "If there are negative comments about our community we need to know about them."


Queen Creek Councilman Jeff Brown says this is a move in the right direction for the town of Queen Creek. He also said that when Web site users are required to register their names, comments left are usually toned down a bit.


"This is meeting the residents where they are at," he explained at the meeting. "It’s just yet another avenue for our constituents."


Queen Creek Councilman Jon Wootten agreed.


"This is the right approach," he said during the meeting. "We might as well be included and put our face out there."


While good may come with the bad, Mayor Sanders said town officials need to develop a thick skin and take advantage of the opportunity presented by social Web sites.


"I don’t think we are going to be able to protect the world from Facebook," he joked.


Registered members are encouraged to comment on this topic by clicking “reply” in the upper right corner of this entry. Comments posted online may be used in an upcoming edition of the Queen Creek Independent. For more news, visit http://circulation.newszap.com to purchase an e-Subscription. As an e-Subscriber, you will be able to view the actual newspaper pages online, including every story, feature, advertisement and photo


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