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Playing the Game
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 Posted: Tue Nov 25th, 2008 04:02 am
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Suddenly quiet on the Camden front.  I guess the truth rings true.

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You are quite mistaken in your statements about the Moose Lodge and you have no apparent knowledge of the Laws of the Order, what the Fraternity stands for and what we do locally.  We do not knowingly, sign up anyone who has a criminal record, they must sign a pledge that they are not convicted felons.  We just spent a year getting a member dismissed because he lied on his application.  Legally there is only so much investigation that can be done without violating someones civil rights.  If you have information of someones criminal record please turn it in and it will be dealt with.  It must be factual, not hearsay.  The Moose Lodge has frequent tresspassers on the property so just because they leave the parking lot does not mean they are members.  There is no "family" that runs the kitchen they are paid employees.  There are strict rules about overserving and they close as soon as business slows down at night.  State law stipulates that no one can serve after 1 am and the facility must be vacated by 2 am, that is strictly enforced.  As for overserving, it is wrong and against the law and the Moose Lodge tries everything it can to stop the practice.  We believe in adherence to the law.  The Moose lodge was in the top 3 community service lodges in the 50 lodges in the MD-DE-DC Moose Association and was named Top Lodge of the Year for that Association.  Most of our members are 40 and over.  As for a 13 year old driving his parents home at 1am, children of 16 years of age must not be present in the lodge after 10 pm at night and MUST be accompanied by an adult until that time. You obviously know little about the lodge or the fraternity and have no factual evidence that you can come forward with or you would have done so, so that the situation could be addressed in a proper manner.  That is the easy thing aboubt gossip, anyone with no sense or talent can do it. The Moose lodge has been part of this community for over 40 years and we do not have the police of any agency in our pocket.  We ask that all police agencies enforce the law. 

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 Posted: Tue Nov 18th, 2008 10:57 pm
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There's a good reason not to get a family membership in the Moose Lodge in Camden.

SOHR wrote:
yes, the Moose Lodge does accept offenders and they have family members that are offenders. Many for the same Romeo and Juliet crimes. 19 and 16.... 15 and 13.... But why persecute me for my name. That is actually an acronym for a start-up non-profit battling for the rights of sex offenders and trying to to have them classified with child predator. Two totally different subjects.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 18th, 2008 08:35 pm
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I'll drink to that.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 11:44 am
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yes, the Moose Lodge does accept offenders and they have family members that are offenders. Many for the same Romeo and Juliet crimes. 19 and 16.... 15 and 13.... But why persecute me for my name. That is actually an acronym for a start-up non-profit battling for the rights of sex offenders and trying to to have them classified with child predator. Two totally different subjects.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 01:18 am
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Does the Moose Lodge believe that Sex Offenders Have Rights?  You seem to have pointed out that this is what your screen name stands for.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 12:39 am
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I wonder how long it will be before I get a threat, but here goes nothing...

I will let you know that there is a lot of trouble that goes on in the Moose Lodge. Yes, you are right when it is said that it is a Members Only, by sponsor. But you should also know that they do drink out there (a lot) until two in the morning. They do not care if you are drunk, as long as you pay. Most of them know each other. They won't cut you off. There are several convicted DWI/DUI members. Cops look past their friends who are members. The Moose Lodge itself looks past the members excess drinking. I know that they let a 13yo drive his drunk parents home to Felton. This at 1am or later. Nothing is done about that. And before you ask how I know this, I do because of the fact that I know the family that runs the kitchen and when they get a little "tipsy", they tell all. Nice to know. Notice how you never see the Wyoming or State Police have a DUI/DWI checkpoint on Moose Lodge Road. How many are members? And before you make a comment... I already have the answer. So, if you want to be smug, then shoot a nasty comment back. If you want answers.. then seek and find.

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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 07:57 pm
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You must be invited to be a member of the moose lodge it is a honor not a civic membership:D

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 Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 07:52 pm
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Why does everything that happens on that road all of a sudden be come the Moose Lodges fault? If it were named something else would it be their fault too? If you were up and heard the trucks in the parking lot maybe you should have called the police then. It doesn't mean they were members of the moose or drunk maybe they were young kids out getting into trouble on the moose lodges property. Have you ever been in a moose lodge the average age must be at least 50 or more. Cut me a break, the moose lodge does alot for our community and raises money for alot of good causes they don't deserve to be critised for something they probably have no control over. No body in there is aware of who it was that wrecked there from what I understand so go figure:dude:

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 Posted: Sat Oct 4th, 2008 07:04 pm
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eng416res wrote: Did you take this information to the police.  If there is a witness to the accident, the police have all his information and can aresst him.
not likly to have a witness that time of the morning.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 10:00 pm
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To answer your question......No, the officer never came to my home to take a statement....I guess they thought they had all of the information they needed.  Secondly, the officer did finally come to my home yesterday to take the statement.  No, I did not "go out" and provide any information when it was midnight and I had three children at home so maybe your right that leaving my children for irresponsible men has no merit!  Answer another question.....it is official as one of them were charged with what they should have been.  Thank You!

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 Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 06:47 pm
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DeGirl77 wrote: Yes, I called 911 and reported the accident as soon as it happened.  After the accident, the driver of the vehicle was picked up by the other vehicle who was racing with them.  I wanted to post something just in case the officer didn't get all the information he needed, wondering if anyone else on mooselodge might have seen them beforehand.  Hopefully, if they were drinking and driving......they will pay for it.  Dui's not only hurt the culprit but others too.  Thanks!
So the police officer did not go to you and talk with you as the reporting person? Common sense says you should at least make contact with the person who called it in.

Secondly, didn't you go out and provide your statement to the police officer who was investigating. An anonymous post here has no merit and would never make it in to anything official. (At least I would hope it wouldn't)

I'm a bit confused..

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 Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 04:10 am
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Hi Jody......No, the accident didn't happen in my yard but I do know them and they just had a new baby........so glad to know that they didn't make it past the ditch.  If so, they would have hit their house.  Thanks

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 Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 03:17 am
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I will not argue that this action is wrong and people need to be held accountable for their actions.  I do know as a Certified Delaware bartender, that they have to abide by all laws that any other establishment that holds a liquor license has to abide to.  I am sure there last call on the weekends is 1 am as any other place is.  The bartenders are ultimately held responsible for serving to much.  At anytime a bartender can cut a person off if they think the subject has had to much to drink.  They can also ask for their keys and call them a cab.  If none of this works, then they should get the police involved.  As far as what happens inside the Moose, not sure.  I have attended a couple times as a guest of a member and seems no different then any other bar I have been to.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 03:06 am
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I know some members and can find out.  I won't join because of that.  I joined one civic organization, the VCF Ruritan.  There is no bar or restaurant in the Viola Ruritan.  :)

I attend the Crimewatch meeting on the first Thursday of the month.  We had one tonight, as a matter of fact.  I mention the motorcycles that do wheelies on Sundays, but forgot to mention the accident in your yard.  I will make sure to mention it next month.  If you are interested, I can provide more information about the meeting.  THere are representatives from developments and streets all over the county who attend to talk about these types of things with Capt Bob Hawkings from Troop #3.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 02:59 am
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Hi Jody...........  Yes, very funny how they run from their mistakes.  I am curious as to what time the Mooselodge does close during the week and/or weekends.  These people are leaving there well over the legal driving limit and putting other people/property at risk.  I think there needs to be a little investigation as to how long these people are served and how intoxicated they can be and still leave with keys in their hands.  Thanks!

Last edited on Fri Aug 8th, 2008 02:59 am by DeGirl77

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 Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 02:35 am
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I saw the tracks in the yard where the truck ran off the road.  It does not surprise me.  I have had cars run into my yard, too.  THey turn right out of the Moose, heading toward, Wyoming, and can't even drive straight, let alone negotiate a turn.  In one case, they ran into the yard, behind my mailbox, and luckily went right between the mailbox and the well head, then right over a bush in the yard.  THey hit the car in the neighbor's driveway, but took off before anyone new it. 

 

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 Posted: Wed Aug 6th, 2008 08:20 pm
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Yes, I called 911 and reported the accident as soon as it happened.  After the accident, the driver of the vehicle was picked up by the other vehicle who was racing with them.  I wanted to post something just in case the officer didn't get all the information he needed, wondering if anyone else on mooselodge might have seen them beforehand.  Hopefully, if they were drinking and driving......they will pay for it.  Dui's not only hurt the culprit but others too.  Thanks!

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 Posted: Wed Aug 6th, 2008 05:08 pm
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Did you take this information to the police.  If there is a witness to the accident, the police have all his information and can aresst him.

Last edited on Wed Aug 6th, 2008 05:08 pm by eng416res

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 Posted: Wed Aug 6th, 2008 03:53 pm
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Did anyone hear anything about 12p.m. midnight?  There were two vehicles (trucks) who were messing around in the Camden Mooselodge parking lot and then decided to drag race onto Mooselodge Rd. when they came flying past my house and one of the trucks caught the sharp curve, running up on the bank, spun around, and took a big maple tree out of the ground.  Okay, my pet peeve is that the driver who missed the curve and wrecked was picked up by the other driver.  They were gone by the time the cops arrived; apparently the owner of the vehicle reported his vehicle stolen not long after the accident and whether this is true or not, I am just finding it hard to believe this would be true when both vehicles just left the Mooselodge and driver was conveniently gone after the accident.    Exactly what time does the mooselodge in camden close? :?


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