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I read enough to know that your statement is bogus.  Show me a purse snatching story that names the victim.  Show me any news story not involving a fatality that names the victim.  Im not talking some story like "Joe Smith was the victim of mailbox vandalism.  He says it has happened in the past." Im sorry but I read the paper everyday and Ive seldom seen a victim named.  Theres especially no reason to name the victims in this case. 

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You don't read much.

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Playing the Game wrote: If Joe Negro steals a purse it appears in the news.  The story also includes the victims name.  Sooooooo.......... why don't the names of the victims at Harrington's and Zimmerman's Country Club appear in the paper?

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You can assume all you want. Obviously someone had a key. There was an employee playing not an owner. But because you and others do not know the facts it appears you want to make this more of an issue than it should be. How would anyone know what investigation there was unless you were directly involved? In my opinion your making a mountain out of a mole hill. So why dont we leave this as agree to disagree if you choose not to believe me.

Short of a news story involving the death of a victim, I have never seen a victim's name in the paper.

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Playing the Game wrote: Guess that shuts up the locals............
These are the victims that were robbed, Also how about the lawyers quit the case of the three brothers it seems pretty funny how the lawyers knew that they knew the people that were robbed but still took on the brothers cases for four months, they were clearly trying to set them up but luckily they are really educated and they knew that the lawyers were never on their side, if this did not spell set up i don't know what will.Ginger warring ton,  Calvin Hudson-connected with energy company+lives in dover,  George Dennis- might be involved with harness racing,  Dennis orrico-CEO of tanner +James,  Chad Faulk,  Thomas killen, harry Thomas- manager of qual country club, mark stover, billy Coleman, josh green, Gary Evans- CEO of green hunter Energy+director of novavax inc., duane Mitchell

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Guess that shuts up the locals............

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DelawareNative wrote: Harrington sold his interest in the club to Zimmerman.  Get it straight.


Playing the Game wrote:
If Joe Negro steals a purse it appears in the news.  The story also includes the victims name.  Sooooooo.......... why don't the names of the victims at Harrington's and Zimmerman's Country Club appear in the paper?

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You can assume all you want. Obviously someone had a key. There was an employee playing not an owner. But because you and others do not know the facts it appears you want to make this more of an issue than it should be. How would anyone know what investigation there was unless you were directly involved? In my opinion your making a mountain out of a mole hill. So why don't we leave this as agree to disagree if you choose not to believe me.
These are the victims that were robbed, Also how about the lawyers quit the case of the three brothers it seems pretty funny how the lawyers knew that they knew the people that were robbed but still took on the brothers cases for four months, they were clearly trying to set them up but luckily they are really educated and they knew that the lawyers were never on their side, if this did not spell set up i don't know what will.Ginger warring ton,  Calvin Hudson-connected with energy company+lives in dover,  George Dennis- might be involved with harness racing,  Dennis orrico-CEO of tanner +James,  Chad Faulk,  Thomas killen, harry Thomas- manager of qual country club, mark stover, billy Coleman, josh green, Gary Evans- CEO of green hunter Energy+director of novavax inc., duane Mitchell



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DelawareNative wrote: WTF are you talking about?

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Then there is no harm in telling who was...................Strange how a State Trooper gave up his career without a fight unless he was promised something.


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Playing the Game wrote: Not in Delaware.......................Slower Lower ya know.

They are all the same wrote:
Playing the Game wrote: If you read what he said "The state appointed lawyers that are working on this cas have stated that they believe the brothers but they cant take the case serious because the victims are friends of theirs and the judge."

The alleged "victims" are friends of the judge.

 

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None of the victims is a judge. You have bad info!

If this is true, which I doubt, then the judge would be required to recuse himself. 
well the judge is not and in the paper one of the brothers tried to fire his lawyer because his lawyer is working against him , the brother tried to file a motion against his lawyer, the judge denied his motion, then stated that he has been good friends with the lawyer and could not believe what the brother was trying to say bout his lawyer, if your lawyer is going against you why even keep them around, Be fowl, the lawyer called the brothers family and said that she got confessions from them and they are guilty, first off, the other brothers have lawyers, second why is she calling talking about the other two this is why they have their own lawyers, then she was lied about them confessing, the brothers did not even know any thing about the phone call until the family came to see them that weekend, if that isn't shady then i don't know what is.

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Not in Delaware.......................Slower Lower ya know.

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Playing the Game wrote: If you read what he said "The state appointed lawyers that are working on this cas have stated that they beleive the brothers but they cant take the case serious because the victims are friends of theirs and the judge."

The alleged "victims" are friends of the judge.

 

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None of the victims is a judge. You have bad info!

If this is true, which I doubt, then the judge would be required to recuse himself. 

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the ex state trooper took a plea for 3-6 years

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The only thing that i have figured out is that people are just blind to the truth, but i guess cause they are black then they are wrong they have to be white in order to be right, No one will look at the brothers back ground, but because the ex state trooper  is who he is and the others two that took deals , all of them have either been in jail, or have some type of criminal investigation history, but black people are all known 4 being broken and uneducated, (yeah Right) no one cares if three innocent men that have great futures ahead of them go to jail, I thought Delaware was a great state( It is corrupt like hell everyone knows everyone, and they will not even begin to get a fair trial if it is left up to corrupt Kent county. and think about this three took deals but they were all supposed to be friends and working together why didn't they all take pleas if they feel others can testify against them. the truth will come out and if it doesn't then in the end some ones career will be ruined even if the whole legal pool has to go under investigation.

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The only thing that i have figured out is that people are just blind to the truth, but i guess cause they are black then they are wrong they have to be white in order to be right, No one will look at the brothers back ground, but because the ex state trooper  is who he is and the others two that took deals , all of them have either been in jail, or have some type of criminal investigation history, but black people are all known 4 being broken and uneducated, (yeah Right) no one cares if three innocent men that have great futures ahead of them go to jail, I thought Delaware was a great state( It is corrupt like hell everyone knows everyone, and they will not even begin to get a fair trial if it is left up to corrupt Kent county. and think about this three took deals but they were all supposed to be friends and working together why didn't they all take pleas if they feel others can testify against them. the truth will come out and if it doesn't then in the end some ones career will be ruined even if the whole legal pool has to go under investigation.

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Sounds like you have this all figured out in your own mind.  You make no sense.  Same old story.  It is always the other guys fault.

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no but they really should be able to get fair legal practice and a fair trial.  Also all the money was found in the state troopers home so who was paid off for this crime.  i have seen the discovery they don't have any evidence on the brothers they found videos tapes of the state trooper and his two friend that is d**n good evidence against them, that is why they took deals, but they have yet to produce any evidence against the three brothers, they have been offered deals but why take a deal for something that you did not do, i feel that if  the brothers are convicted this will turn into a really big case, Just think if they have overwhelming evidence against them why give them deals for probation, and the one that they offered probation to his bail is 214,000.00 does this sound right, he is being charged with 11 counts of robbery, 11 counts of wearing a dis. in the commission of a felony, 2 counts of consp. 2 counts of offensive touching, only probation someone covering something up, things are not adding up. also, the three brothers have never been in trouble a day in there life, the state trooper , and his ex friend Jeffrey had an argument, this argument was never cleared up so because the state troopers life is *ucked he feel that he should just *uck everyone else's life.  There has to be a reason to do a robbery, and Kim and has a reason, he was really in debt and owed people money, this other friend just got out of jail, he needed money to get back on, the other friend of Kim's claimed he just drove so no one would get hurt ( yeah right what ever) he claimed he only was getting 200 out the deal ( what ever) the three brothers had A One credit, they all were very successful, with degrees, one brother works with children that are having issues in school and are on probation, he goes to court with them to help them get out of trouble, this really is not adding up.  I mean think about this 9,000 was found in the state troopers home in a sock, 800.00 was found in an envelope, two was found under the matters in the state troopers  home, this money was divided three ways not six, who got paid, and what black people do you know will walk away from this empty handed, also if they were suppose to have robbed the place while the state trooper was a vic. then they would have had control of the money, why would they leave money behind, does not add up, then the state trooper burned every thing up in this own yard, and leaves evidence, they coped deals cause all evidence is pointing to wards them, i think that there are more key players and the brothers are being used as ex cape goats the truth needs to come out soon.  people are lying an i know one thing that it is not the brothers.   

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I know none of the vict are judges the judge and lawyers are friends of the victs, i have acc info

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Playing the Game wrote: If you read what he said "The state appointed lawyers that are working on this cas have stated that they beleive the brothers but they cant take the case serious because the victims are friends of theirs and the judge."

The alleged "victims" are friends of the judge.

 

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None of the victims is a judge. You have bad info!

If this is true, which I doubt, then the judge would be required to recuse himself. 

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If you read what he said "The state appointed lawyers that are working on this cas have stated that they beleive the brothers but they cant take the case serious because the victims are friends of theirs and the judge."

The alleged "victims" are friends of the judge.

 

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None of the victims is a judge. You have bad info!

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mcmillian wrote: The brothers are being denied fair legal practice in the state of delaware.  If anyone really wants to know the names i have the names of the so called victims.  The state appointed lawyers that are working on this cas have stated that they beleive the brothers but they cant take the case serious because the victims are friends of theirs and the judge.  the question is why is this case able to be tried down is the state of delaware if the three brothers will not get a fair trial.  the brothers dont have any outstanding evidence aganist them all the evidence was found in the ex- state troopers home.  The brothers have always been stand up citizens in there community.  Addae was in the navy, and served in iraq freedom, Jeffrey served in iraq freedom also worked as a social worker with children in philadelphia keeping them out of trouble, akua was taking test to enter into the army, but was in college, and worked for coke cola, never been locked never did any drugs.  The facts arer clear as day because everyone knows everyone in delaware reguardless to what the truth is we will never find it out because they are covering up alot of things in delaware. 
None of the victims is a judge. You have bad info!

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mcmillian wrote: The brothers are being denied fair legal practice in the state of delaware.  If anyone really wants to know the names i have the names of the so called victims.  The state appointed lawyers that are working on this cas have stated that they beleive the brothers but they cant take the case serious because the victims are friends of theirs and the judge.  the question is why is this case able to be tried down is the state of delaware if the three brothers will not get a fair trial.  the brothers dont have any outstanding evidence aganist them all the evidence was found in the ex- state troopers home.  The brothers have always been stand up citizens in there community.  Addae was in the navy, and served in iraq freedom, Jeffrey served in iraq freedom also worked as a social worker with children in philadelphia keeping them out of trouble, akua was taking test to enter into the army, but was in college, and worked for coke cola, never been locked never did any drugs.  The facts arer clear as day because everyone knows everyone in delaware reguardless to what the truth is we will never find it out because they are covering up alot of things in delaware. The brothers are being tried in Delaware because the crime WAS committed in Delaware.  What?  Are we supposed to try them in their home town?  Get real.

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The brothers are being denied fair legal practice in the state of delaware.  If anyone really wants to know the names i have the names of the so called victims.  The state appointed lawyers that are working on this cas have stated that they beleive the brothers but they cant take the case serious because the victims are friends of theirs and the judge.  the question is why is this case able to be tried down is the state of delaware if the three brothers will not get a fair trial.  the brothers dont have any outstanding evidence aganist them all the evidence was found in the ex- state troopers home.  The brothers have always been stand up citizens in there community.  Addae was in the navy, and served in iraq freedom, Jeffrey served in iraq freedom also worked as a social worker with children in philadelphia keeping them out of trouble, akua was taking test to enter into the army, but was in college, and worked for coke cola, never been locked never did any drugs.  The facts arer clear as day because everyone knows everyone in delaware reguardless to what the truth is we will never find it out because they are covering up alot of things in delaware. 

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Playing the Game wrote: We'll find out if it comes to trial.  I'll bet they plead out and the fat cats are protected by their wealth from being exposed.  Too bad there wasn't a hooker there, or was there?
So why dont one of you geniuses explain your conspiracy theory. Oh nevermind I get it. The vics are paying the defs to take a plea so that their names wont come out. Why didnt I think of that earlier? IDIOTS!

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imnoone wrote: Protected by their wealth? You have issues!
worked for OJ

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Pffft.

Playing the Game wrote: We'll find out if it comes to trial.  I'll bet they plead out and the fat cats are protected by their wealth from being exposed.  Too bad there wasn't a hooker there, or was there?

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Protected by their wealth? You have issues!

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We'll find out if it comes to trial.  I'll bet they plead out and the fat cats are protected by their wealth from being exposed.  Too bad there wasn't a hooker there, or was there?

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Playing the Game wrote: He pled guilty to avoid the trial.  There will be no trial.  What part of the cover up don't you understand.

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Gambling is a victim-less crime! Victims of a robbery have the right not to be known. If it bothers you that much go to Superior Court on the day of the trial, the victims will be present.


Apparently its you that doesnt understand!There were three co-defendants that have not pled to anything. Trial date is still on. COVER UP? A state trooper was arrested and it was in the media everyday. What are they covering up?

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The middletown place was different. It was an operation.

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Harrington sold his interest in the club to Zimmerman.  Get it straight.


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If Joe Negro steals a purse it appears in the news.  The story also includes the victims name.  Sooooooo.......... why don't the names of the victims at Harrington's and Zimmerman's Country Club appear in the paper?

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You can assume all you want. Obviously someone had a key. There was an employee playing not an owner. But because you and others do not know the facts it appears you want to make this more of an issue than it should be. How would anyone know what investigation there was unless you were directly involved? In my opinion your making a mountain out of a mole hill. So why dont we leave this as agree to disagree if you choose not to believe me.

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He pled guilty to avoid the trial.  There will be no trial.  What part of the cover up don't you understand.

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Gambling is a victim-less crime! Victims of a robbery have the right not to be known. If it bothers you that much go to Superior Court on the day of the trial, the victims will be present.

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Prostitution is often called a victimless crime as well, but the police still like to arrest and the state prosecutes the practitioners.

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Gambling is a victim-less crime! Victims of a robbery have the right not to be known. If it bothers you that much go to Superior Court on the day of the trial, the victims will be present.


It is ???   You really believe that crap.

 Tell that to the family of a gambling addict who loses their house, and all their possessions.

Tell that to the spouse  and children of the person who commits suicide because they are so distraught over their losses and sees no other way out.

Tell that to the taxpayer who has to support the someone through welfare or other social aid because they have lost everything to gambling.

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Bluesman wrote: imnoone wrote: Should everyone who gambles be charged? No matter what the stakes are.

I think I know where you are headed with this. Let's at least agree that $10,000.00 out on the table in an illegal poker game isn't chump change.

It's not equal to Billy Bob and Jon Boy and their buddies getting together for a Saturday night game of poker.

And it is certainly not like  Betty Sue and Betty Lou and their spinster friends betting on a game of hearts or canasta either.
I agree but where do you draw the line. Its all illegal so either arrest everyone or no one. If those players can afford to bet that much so be it. Who were they hurting?

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Playing the Game wrote: If Joe Negro steals a purse it appears in the news.  The story also includes the victims name.  Sooooooo.......... why don't the names of the victims at Harrington's and Zimmerman's Country Club appear in the paper?

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You can assume all you want. Obviously someone had a key. There was an employee playing not an owner. But because you and others do not know the facts it appears you want to make this more of an issue than it should be. How would anyone know what investigation there was unless you were directly involved? In my opinion your making a mountain out of a mole hill. So why dont we leave this as agree to disagree if you choose not to believe me.

Gambling is a victim-less crime! Victims of a robbery have the right not to be known. If it bothers you that much go to Superior Court on the day of the trial, the victims will be present.

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imnoone wrote: Should everyone who gambles be charged? No matter what the stakes are.

I think I know where you are headed with this. Let's at least agree that $10,000.00 out on the table in an illegal poker game isn't chump change.

It's not equal to Billy Bob and Jon Boy and their buddies getting together for a Saturday night game of poker.

And it is certainly not like  Betty Sue and Betty Lou and their spinster friends betting on a game of hearts or canasta either.

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If Joe Negro steals a purse it appears in the news.  The story also includes the victims name.  Sooooooo.......... why don't the names of the victims at Harrington's and Zimmerman's Country Club appear in the paper?

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You can assume all you want. Obviously someone had a key. There was an employee playing not an owner. But because you and others do not know the facts it appears you want to make this more of an issue than it should be. How would anyone know what investigation there was unless you were directly involved? In my opinion your making a mountain out of a mole hill. So why dont we leave this as agree to disagree if you choose not to believe me.

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Zymergy wrote: Rather the owners knew or not their business was "providing a premise for gambling" which was one of the charges against the Middletown owners.   This was not a one time game based on reporting so why were they not at least charged with this crime?  Shouldn't the ABC have been investigating them also because you d**n well know they were serving drinks, nobody sets and drinks water playing poker!!

Should everyone who gambles be charged? No matter what the stakes are.

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Wasn't the Middletown issue because the property owner was getting a cut of the winnings or charging to enter the games?   From what I understand - and anyone correct me if I'm wrong - it's not illegal to host a poker party but is illegal to benefit from it as if you were running a gambling establishment (ie, charging admission, charging to be in on the game or taking a percentage of winnings)?

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Zymergy wrote: Rather the owners knew or not their business was "providing a premise for gambling" which was one of the charges against the Middletown owners.   This was not a one time game based on reporting so why were they not at least charged with this crime?  Shouldn't the ABC have been investigating them also because you d**n well know they were serving drinks, nobody sets and drinks water playing poker!!

If a manager or someone of that capacity was the one allowing this to occur, I don't know what charges towards the club would apply.  If the club owners say they knew nothing about what was going on, can they be charged?  (The Middletown people couldn't claim that since it could be proven otherwise). Could the employee responsible be fined/charged?  If yes-maybe they were but that may not be publicized.  I would think whoever it was would at the very least have been fired.  Again though, it wouldn't necessarily be public knowledge.

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Rather the owners knew or not their business was "providing a premise for gambling" which was one of the charges against the Middletown owners.   This was not a one time game based on reporting so why were they not at least charged with this crime?  Shouldn't the ABC have been investigating them also because you d**n well know they were serving drinks, nobody sets and drinks water playing poker!!

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 07:04 pm
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I have no problem agreeing to disagree. But that doesn't negate my right, or anyone elses to question  the "facts" or apparent lack thereof of certain "facts" surrounding the events. That is what is creating all the speculation.

You ask how would anyone know?

The same way we know about other crimes through police logs and news stories.

I also know as a former business owner, I didn't hand out keys to every employee, and I knew what was going on in my business.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 06:36 pm
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You can assume all you want. Obviously someone had a key. There was an employee playing not an owner. But because you and others do not know the facts it appears you want to make this more of an issue than it should be. How would anyone know what investigation there was unless you were directly involved? In my opinion your making a mountain out of a mole hill. So why dont we leave this as agree to disagree if you choose not to believe me.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 05:59 pm
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imnoone wrote: One other thing. There is no proof the owners of Quail new anything about the game. It was after hours and none of the owners were playing. Im sure sure they probably knew but that would have to be proven.
mr imnoone,

It would almost appear that you may in fact know more than you are owning up to in these blogs. Obviously someone had a key to enter the building, I doubt the owners just give the keys out to anyone or leave the place open. 

I also think the point Zym is trying to make is there apparently wasn't even a hint of any investigation into the illegal activities that were occuring on that night.  No one knows if there were any "other" illegal activities going on.  Just as no one knows if any other illegal activities occured in the preceding days, weeks, or months before the actual  robbery.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 04:49 pm
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One other thing. There is no proof the owners of Quail new anything about the game. It was after hours and none of the owners were playing. Im sure sure they probably knew but that would have to be proven.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 04:46 pm
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The game in Middletown had armed guards, the house was taking a cut of the proceeds and there were topless bartenders. The players parked in the middle of a cul-de-sac blocking other homeowners from their own driveways. When the homeowners complained the owners of the house where the game was played threatened them. The two situations is comparing apples to oranges.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 04:38 pm
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I have only one question.  Why were there no arrests made of the owners of Wild Quail for running a gambling establishment like the people who ran the card game in Middletown?   If that does not show you that law enforcement is all about who you know then nothing does.

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LongLiveCamden wrote: That's the typical mentality in this country today. Lets have pitty for the poor criminal and throw the victim to the dogs. This country is all about free enterprise, capitalism and getting ahead, yet it constantly trys to put down those who are successful (honestly so). So what if the people playing poker at the country club were wealthy. How do you think they got so? Not by beating and robbing people. Sounds like someone is jealous of another person's success in life. Take from the rich and give to the poor. Robin Hood, or Obama?


How did they get so?

Many of them by using all the legal loopholes that the average blue collar worker can't. 

By using every illegal tactic they can so that their profits are higher. 

By manufacturing goods in other countries where the employee's make $5.00 a week, or child labor isn't against the law.  

Selling products for hundreds of dollars, even thousands of dollars higher than the manufacturing cost, which in many cases is   pennies on the dollar. 

By making contributions to political officials who make laws that favor them.  

So what you are saying is just because these people are wealthy they are above the law?

I bet you thought OJ was innocent of killing his wife and the young man as well or was that his right because he was successful and wealthy.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 10:49 am
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That's the typical mentality in this country today. Lets have pitty for the poor criminal and throw the victim to the dogs. This country is all about free enterprise, capitalism and getting ahead, yet it constantly trys to put down those who are successful (honestly so). So what if the people playing poker at the country club were wealthy. How do you think they got so? Not by beating and robbing people. Sounds like someone is jealous of another person's success in life. Take from the rich and give to the poor. Robin Hood, or Obama?

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 05:01 am
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Armed robbers are victims because they robbed rich people playing poker?????
I entertained the idea of having a thoughtful debate with you, but I now see that is impossible.  What an idiotic comment.


Playing the Game wrote: On the contrary, they are the privleged, the thieves are almost the victims here.  Truth be known, we are the victims of a legal and political system that protects the privledged members of country clubs who think nothing of breaking the law.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 01:52 am
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imnoone wrote: Your the one who doubted what I said was the truth. I know who was there and there were NO pillars of society or anyone of great stature. They were the VICTIMS of a robbery so you have NO right to know there names. LET IT GO HOT HEAD.No offense, why would I believe you ? I don't know who you are, or what you know or don't know. You are a nameless face behind a computer screen using an anonymous name.  Just because you claim to know, you feel I'm supposed to accept that.   Guess what, maybe that's how it works in your world but not mine sorry. Seems the only one getting hot is you, because I stated I doubt what you say.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 01:15 am
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Come on now. How many card games, fantasy football leagues, college basketball pools or wagers among friends, that are all technically illegal, go on all the time. No one cared until the place was robbed. This was a small group of people. But because it was at a country club it has everyones panties in a bunch. Its their money who the hell cares, its a victim-less crime.


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