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Posted: Sat Feb 14th, 2009 03:06 am |
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I hear you. It is large and comes at a bad time. The old city hall is a small, sad joke. The new town hall will also house the police dept. There has been a for sale sign on the police dept. building for some time.
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Posted: Sat Feb 14th, 2009 01:10 am |
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I agree, however, most of them aren't building a massive new town hall that they can't afford. Too expensive and not even eye appealing in my opinion.
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 09:45 pm |
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Most small towns are in the same boat. This isn't just Camden.
wy de native wrote: How many jobs does it cost to build a town hall in Camden?
Just rephrases the old saying....if you build it they will leave (this could pertain to both the employees who lost their jobs because of town excess and the contractors who were affected when the bottom fell out of the building industry).
Did Mayor Mooney honestly think that the building boom that he funded his town's growth on was going to last forever. It's a shame and the employees who lost their jobs are the ones to pay for the bad decisions made by a few.
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 05:45 pm |
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| The mayor probably did think the building boom and resulting revenue stream would last at least until he was no longer in office. Maybe he has been in office for too long? Last edited on Fri Feb 13th, 2009 05:45 pm by Two Cents
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 04:10 pm |
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How many jobs does it cost to build a town hall in Camden?
Just rephrases the old saying....if you build it they will leave (this could pertain to both the employees who lost their jobs because of town excess and the contractors who were affected when the bottom fell out of the building industry).
Did Mayor Mooney honestly think that the building boom that he funded his town's growth on was going to last forever. It's a shame and the employees who lost their jobs are the ones to pay for the bad decisions made by a few.
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 02:39 pm |
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| If you were the speeder who got a ticket and then went to Wal Mart and saw a bunch of cars in the firelane, would you have a different opinion?
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 02:25 pm |
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| I agree and I didn't apply that they should be doing it, my point is if there is enough cops to be at Camden Walmart all the time then cutting a few from the budget isn't a big deal, right? Apparently there are not enough other pressing issues going on in town if they have time to be there harrassing customers. As I said previously within 5 minutes of him being at Walmart, a car was speeding down the highway with no headlights, wouldn't that be more important?
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 12:10 pm |
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| Maybe if people read the signs and didn't park in the fire lane the cops would have no need to be there in the first place.
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Posted: Fri Feb 13th, 2009 01:12 am |
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| Well I do not live in the Camden area but do shop at Walmart often. It seems the officers spend most of their time being arrogant when people load up at the door. Not long ago a handicapped man was helping his handicapped wife in the car and the officer was telling them you can't do that. That is certainly not the first time I have witnessed a officer do that. And was not very nice about it. I guess he doesn't put his pants on the same way most of us do. Then while leaving on 13 there was a car with absolutely no headlights driving down 13 in the dark in Camden territory. Guess too busy harrasing the Walmart shoppers
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Posted: Thu Feb 12th, 2009 11:35 pm |
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| No, no im not
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Posted: Thu Feb 12th, 2009 10:43 pm |
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kok1999 wrote: Who cares about water. Its all the same.
You're kidding, right?
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Posted: Thu Feb 12th, 2009 10:05 pm |
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| Who cares about water. Its all the same.
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Posted: Thu Feb 12th, 2009 08:07 pm |
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| I think Camden Wyoming can dissolve the Camden Wyoming Water and Sewer Authority with a referendum and then it could be turned over to Kent County and the Water rights auctioned off to Tidewater or Artisan. Just a thought but would save the town money in the long term. FACT Scotty......
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Posted: Thu Feb 12th, 2009 03:44 pm |
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What do you think?
From the Delaware State News:
Camden cuts six jobs from payroll
Town manager, police officers among reductions
By Andrew Abel
Delaware State News
CAMDEN — Camden has let six town employees go, including the town manager, citing the struggling economy and a lack of revenue from development and growth.
Donald H. Mulrine Jr., the town manager, was let go along with two clerical workers, a public works employee and two police officers, said Camden Mayor Robert A. Mooney.
The move will free up more than $100,000, keeping the town within its budget, he said.
"These are very trying times," Mayor Mooney said. "The only thing we can do is reduce our overall cost of manpower."
Revenue is down about as much as 70 percent from recent years, he said. The money generated by real estate transfer taxes has plummeted because no one is buying, selling or building any houses, Mayor Mooney said.
Mayor Mooney said he recognizes the hardship on those who lost their jobs, but said he is doing everything in his power to keep from raising taxes and doesn’t foresee the need to do so.
"Acquiring money from the townspeople would be unfair," he said. "It would just put a greater burden on those who are already struggling."
The town had forecast more growth and development than it is experiencing, Mayor Mooney said.
As an example, he cited Tidbury Crossing, a residential development off Lochmeath Way, near the Lowe’s in Camden. It has houses on less than a third of its plots; by this time, the town had anticipated it would be at least half complete.
"In past years, when development was booming, Camden would generate upwards of $3 million in revenue," Mayor Mooney said. "But with the economic downturn it has dropped considerably."
He said larger towns like Dover could raise rates on utilities, such as electricity and water, to offset personnel costs. But Camden does not supply utilities and is forced to cut back on personnel.
"Everyone’s belt is tightening," Mayor Mooney said. "I want to make things work without raising taxes. It’s the hardships of the people I sit up thinking about at night."
Post your opinionsin the public issues forum at newszap.com.
Staff writer Andrew Abel can be reached at 741-8272 or aabel@newszap.com.
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Posted: Wed Feb 11th, 2009 08:54 pm |
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| Camden Wyoming Water and Sewer Authority...... Amazing how it can't hide behind the "authority" and yet not be accountable...... Needs to change going forward.... People pay your ridiculous fees..... so maybe its time for change...
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Posted: Wed Feb 11th, 2009 03:30 am |
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So, we get hit with a tax increase and still the village/town idiot lays people off?
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Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 09:14 pm |
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| They are pretty much self sufficient. They pay there own employees with the money they make from sewer/water costs and impact fees. As for the Board Members (don't quote me on this) but last I knew it was the Towns' responsibility to compinsate the Board Members for meeting that they have attended. I am do no means an expert!
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Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 05:12 pm |
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Dover Dweller wrote: Just FYI Camden nor Wyoming has control of the Sewer/Water Authority. It is a seperate entity from both towns. They have there own board, budget, employees, etc. Yes, there are 3 Camden Board members, and 3 Wyoming Board members, but they are NOT controlled in anyway by the towns.
Well who pays them? They are accountable to somebody. I think the taxpayers.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 01:54 pm |
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| Just FYI Camden nor Wyoming has control of the Sewer/Water Authority. It is a seperate entity from both towns. They have there own board, budget, employees, etc. Yes, there are 3 Camden Board members, and 3 Wyoming Board members, but they are NOT controlled in anyway by the towns.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 10:06 am |
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Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2009 05:21 pm
One way Camden can save money is to "do away" with the Water and Sewer Authority. Turn over the Sewer authority to Kent County and sell the Water rights to the commercial sector like Tidewater or Artisan. The town would save allot of money and not have to pay for creative payroll compensation associated with the authority. This has been nothing but a burden on Camden / Wyoming residence since its creation almost thirty years ago when Harold Scott resigned as Mayor to take the job offered to him by the replacement Mayor. It used to be a "good ole" boys club then and everybody took care of their own..... New Game in town now...... It's called accountability and reality.
Posted by GO2007 on the Reality board
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Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 04:13 am |
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Interesting picture:
http://www.sussexcountian.com/news/x545169793/Markell-kicks-off-town-hall-budget-talks
I wonder what kind of deficit Mooney has run up in Camden.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 03:25 am |
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| There is no media south of the canal. Are you new?
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Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 02:21 am |
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| Who fired who? Did council do this behind closed doors or did the media miss this?
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Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 02:14 am |
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| It was the town manager and a couple of clerks. The clerks did more work than the 6 non patrol cops who sit in the office all day. Glad I don't pay taxes in Camden.
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Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 01:37 am |
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| Who is running the town?
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Posted: Mon Feb 9th, 2009 08:19 pm |
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| wow I only heard it was one police officer. I bet you anything the mayor will say that Camden needs a full time mayor now and he will be paid. You watch!!! He's a sneeky one. He is a down right liar.
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Posted: Mon Feb 9th, 2009 03:33 am |
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Of course it is a fact. 
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Posted: Sun Feb 8th, 2009 11:13 pm |
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| IT IS A FACT!! I know some of the people they let go. I understand that Mayor Mooney was not at the Monday night meeting, he was at the meeting at Nellie Stokes were the Two Wyoming Councilmen Mike Marasco and Mike McFann actions were appalling. " See the Wyoming blog. for more details"
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Posted: Sun Feb 8th, 2009 10:54 pm |
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| Your correct. I have not seen anything in the news.
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Posted: Sun Feb 8th, 2009 12:36 am |
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Is this fact or fiction? Any public notice? Does The Great one have the authority to do this without council vote? The house still is not clean as long as Mooney and his Cronies are still at the helm. Mooney Exposed!
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Posted: Sat Feb 7th, 2009 06:25 pm |
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| WOW! Did they lay-off 3 police officers?
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Posted: Sat Feb 7th, 2009 05:14 pm |
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Looks like Mulrine got what he deserves. What a shame for the other three. I have never heard of laying of a police officer. I have always thought what was Camden doing with 15 police officers. I wonder how they will fill there over 3 million dollar new town hall and police department? A building with no people, what a new concept. Looks like they were better off without this 3 million dollar eye sore. That is what happens went small towns try to become Dover over night. The tax payers are sure to feel this one. I am glad that I do not live in Camden.
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Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2009 11:37 pm |
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| What?
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Posted: Fri Feb 6th, 2009 09:31 pm |
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Don Mulrine (Town Manager) and three other town employees were let go this morning. The town clerk remains.
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