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| touching some boys family jewels is not right.
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Bluesman
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double deuce wrote: I won't even go into some of the vile and filhty private messages including the ones accusing me of being a pedophile that I got from some fine citizens in Harrington. You people are your own worst enemies.
I don't think so; but then again, that's your opinion  LOL
I guess you know all these people who sent you these private messages too!
I never claimed to know all these people. BUT I did speak to a few of people directly involved on the telephone. I also met several in person.
So are you saying when someone offers to help out is that the immediate assumption should be made that is the person is a pedophile?
Not one person that posts here in the Harrington blogs or in the real world of Harrington offered these kids any help, or advice.
JoJo claims that salaries are lagging and the community doesn't support any referendums for education.
Why not???
You already have 80% provided by all the other taxpayers from the state of Delaware, and 3% from the nation.
You mean to tell me the community can't pony up and raise the amount of the 17% that you all contribute.
Funny you all want new rec center for the kids, it's all about sports and athletics.
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I won't even go into some of the vile and filhty private messages including the ones accusing me of being a pedophile that I got from some fine citizens in Harrington. You people are your own worst enemies.
I don't think so; but then again, that's your opinion LOL
I guess you know all these people who sent you these private messages too!
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double deuce wrote: NO DUH!
So tell me what did you or anyone else in your community do to help this former teacher and her family out besides lip service. Nothing that I'm aware of, like someone else said nobody in your community wants to do anything but complain and offer no solutions.
I have first hand knowledge of that from last year when there were some ongoing issues with the youngsters in one of the neighborhoods. I offered to meet and act as a mediator, and to help the teens and their families prepare a proposal to address your town officials. I even went as far as to make an offer to any youngster and their family to come and participate at a youth music jam that I was hosting at my house. No one was even interested but everyone that had anything to do with the ongoing issues bitched that there was nothing for the kids to do, and that's why they get into trouble.
I won't even go into some of the vile and filhty private messages including the ones accusing me of being a pedophile that I got from some fine citizens in Harrington. You people are your own worst enemies.
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double deuce wrote: My heart goes out to you and your family, Mr. Fluman. Your wife is an awesome person who does not deserve to be treated as she has. I wish nothing but the best of luck in moving on into a new phase in her life, as well as your family. Your strength and spirit will carry you through these rough times. Thanks for your post. GREAT.....unfortunately strength and spirit don't put food on the table or pay the mortgage.
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| My heart goes out to you and your family, Mr. Fluman. Your wife is an awesome person who does not deserve to be treated as she has. I wish nothing but the best of luck in moving on into a new phase in her life, as well as your family. Your strength and spirit will carry you through these rough times. Thanks for your post.
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 11:47 pm |
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I am not into Blogging, so don't expect to see me around much, if at all. Although my wife will probably not be happy with me posting here, I think a few things are in order at this time.
First - I wish to thank all those kind people in Harrington and this web page who have supported my wife and family over the past 10 months. It has not been easy for her because she loved her job and the district so much [so much that we ate quick meals a lot, so that she rush out to participate in a school activity (volleyball games, football game, whatever her high school students asked her to come watch)]. One of the hardest things for my wife was to have to miss all the activities, including her children's, because she was banned from school property.
I personally don't miss the late night calls from students having problems (kids have a tendancy to call her mom), or listening to her make almost nightly calls to discuss student's grades of behavior (good or bad). I do not miss the Sunday shopping trips to Sams Club to buy all the products sold in the school store. I do miss the joy teaching brought her, and the joy and pride she felt when she went back to school after 18 years of doing dental work, graduated with honors and then decided to return to school for a Master's degree. I also miss the excited way she jumped out of bed every morning, looking forward to getting to school to teach a lesson plan she had been working on for some time.
Second - As you are aware through reading the papers and blogs or just listening to the gossip on the street, many of the people in town and even some of her co-workers acted as "Judge, Jury, and Executioner" regarding this issue even after she was acquitted. Those of you who took part in this are a sad lot, especially those who claimed to have connections with the State Police, and have seen the evidence. I sat through the trial, listened to the testimony and recordings, watched the tapes, and as a scientist, honestly could not see where the school was coming from. Those of you who acted judgemental and ostracized my wife, I can only hope that you never have to go through what she has gone through. Just remember though, “Karma is a _____”. And those of you in the educational field take my advice, think twice before reporting a bomb threat.
Those who know her would have been proud to see the strength and poise she displayed during the whole process. Even with all that she had gone through for the preceding 7 months, she stood strong. This strength came from the knowledge that she did not do it. 14 people (12 jurors and 2 alternates) (sorry for plagiarizing someone else's entry here) from all ages, backgrounds, and walks of life saw the same evidence and heard the same testimony, and found her unanimously not guilty. The fact is, they looked at her and smiled. I've heard (yes, this is here-say because I didn't hear it myself) that one juror was heard using the phrase "this was a witch hunt" when they were leaving the court.
Third, I wish to thank the Judge who was impartial in the rulings and did a wonderful job of mediating the trial. I wish to thank the jury who took their job very seriously even though the conditions in the courtroom were adverse (extremely cold). I would also like to thank the courtroom staff that acted unbiased towards my wife.
Fourth - As you are probably aware, when this whole thing began, it made national media. Yet, unlike most strange trials in Delaware, the trial never hit the papers until after it was over. My theory (and this is all just a theory) is that this trial was intentionally kept from the press because of the poor (if not lack of possible) evidence they had to present, and that the State was compelled to go forward for some yet unknown reason.
In closing, I again wish to thank all those who believed in, supported and continue to support my wife as she moves into a new phase of her life. I know that she misses teaching, and her students and friends at the school.
Dan Fluman
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"Dishonorable men do dishonorable deeds to further their ambitions. Honorable men may take a stand, but will admit freely and with true sincerity when they make a mistake."
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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 09:47 pm |
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The administration works for the board, they can only offer suggestions or recommendations. Just like when a teacher is hired.
Is there any one member of the board that anyone knows, who thinks Ms. Fluman should stay ?
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this issue is not in the hands of the administrators now, the board is the final governing group representing the district and Mrs. Fluman's issues are at their level. the board also vote on what administrators contracts are renewed as each contract expires; therefore, they do have the power to not renew an administrators contract. there are however, many loops to be jumped through before a district can "fire" an adminstrator. its not a "you're fired" done deal. therefore, the best choice we have is to start cleaning at the top.
as for who will be in charge after the current principal leaves, i haven't heard very many negatives against the two assistant princiapls. you cant judge them solely on all decisions that they may make, they still have to get the okay from the "head" principal on their decisions. ...and when the head principal position opens up, that doesn't necessarily leave either of the two assistants in charge, they will have to apply for that position too.
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| When are school board elections? I thought there was one this year...but never heard about it... Only heard that one member was reappointed to another term??? Was this really done without an election?
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| What can a change in the board do? The administrators would be the ones to bring these matters to the board. Without ridding the district of them, you won't change a thing. And be realistic, look who will be running the high school when the current head principal steps down in a few years.
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the school board will not discuss "personnel" issues; therefore, we will never get the answers we seek. if Mrs. Fluman is indeed suing; then she will not be able to speak about the meeting she had w/the board and what they said. i only hope she still has the fight in her to go ahead and sue. if she does, once that battle is over, then we may finallly hear the truth as to why she was made to re-sign or be fired...
as for the petition, that is a great idea. that would show the districts community is behind her. but i am not sure we will get the answers we seek in regards to their decisions. she's been made to make the decision to re-sign; i am not so sure the community can make the board change that decision. BUT we (the community) can make the changes in the board as elections start popping up. since board elections are not always well attended, i encourage all community members of this district to vote; do some cleaning up and out!!!
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What I do not understand, why the union isn't helping Mrs. Fluman ?
Ms. Fluman went through the due process of Delaware law and the case was ajudicated. Neither the arbitrator nor the school board has the right to over rule the decision of a jury. What they did amounts to nothing more than a kangaroo court, and thats not what the US Constitution and our laws of our state are about.
This wasn't an issue of a crime of moral terpitude, as a matter of fact as proven by the juries decision there was no crime committed at all by Ms. Fluman. I would suspect had Mrs. Fluman gone back they would have made her life a living hell.
Have any of the parents/students who are supporters of Ms. Fluman thought about starting a petition demanding that she be rehired. Demand a special open school board meeting.
You are the people who elect these school board members, and they need to be made aware of the fact they work for all of you collectively. Hold them accountable, for their actions, demand answers for their decision and hold them "to the fire", don't settle for the usual rhetoric and pat answers that school boards give.
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what i am confused about is that Ms. fluman was found not guilty; what gives the district the right to give her the ultimatum of resign or be fired? that just doesn't seem reasonable. but then again, this district acts as it wants without respect of the parents and students. they don't listen to us, period!!!
i also believe that what comes around, goes around. and the many things this district has done, I just hope all the "go arounds" don't occur at one time!!!!!
i also agree with the worthless piece of crap standing alone at the front of the school. just what is the purpose of that stupid thing, b/c it surely isn't pretty or functional.... i heard it cost upwards of $20-$30-$40,000... what a waste of money.
i hope that Ms. Fluman sues this district and makes an example out of them.
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Once again I say... they are RUTHLESS. May the entire school board and school district get what they truly deserve... What comes around goes around...
I have personally seen Ms. Fluman do more community service/ volunteer work than the entire school administration put together.
Lake Forest Administration is questionable at best. The school superintendent is absolutely unaccommodating. It appears that he doesn't have the time to speak to parents about problems. Just to prove it, it is interesting that the school can not afford text books for every student BUT can afford an absolutely worthless archway in front of the school.
Prime examples are the worthless dress code and the questionable athletic eligibility of last year. But they are never wrong, just ask them and they will tell you so.
My opinion is most of the school board and all of the administration needs to be replaced. Can't wait for the next election...
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Posted: Thu Aug 14th, 2008 11:51 pm |
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Bluesman:
I found out today that Mrs. Fluman has resigned. I spoke with a mutual friend this evening over coffee. In short, the hearing was not to assess Mrs. Fluman's having done anything wrong during her normal teaching duties. It was, they explained, a re-presentation of the evidence originally presented during the jury trial.
For this, the school district hand picks an arbitrator to whom the evidence is presented. He then reviews the evidence and any testimony given at the hearing, and makes a recommendation. Apparantly, Mrs. Fluman was told by one of the staff that the arbitrator being used never rules against the school district, and the hearing was just a formality. As such, the school district gave her the opportunity to resign, or be fired and lose her license. What would anyone do in such a position?
My friend also told me that when Mrs. Fluman spoke to her would-be-witnesses at the school, after she had decided her only choice was to resign, that they need not come over, they told her that they had been informed by their superior earlier that their presence would not be necessary. To me this would seem strange that their superior would inform them they were not needed as witnesses for the defense prior to the decision by Mrs. Fluman to resign.
From what I can tell, it was just another way for the school district to once again cover up their dirtywork. As my friend pointed out, it would be tough enough for Mrs. Fluman to get a job at this time without this albatross hanging around her neck. Now they have effectively ruined her career and have come out looking like hero's because they made an example of her.
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I don't know why someone would set her up but I firmly believe that she was set up. Which means that someone out there did this, either another faculty member or a student. That is really scary thinking that someone out there would ruin another persons life and just sit back and continue watching the tragedy happen. Pretty RUTHLESS... 
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Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 03:39 pm |
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The question is why this particular teacher?
No one has come up with any possible reason even if it's just speculation as to why this teacher was "set up" perhaps.
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Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 01:41 pm |
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| well... we are in agreement with that - I wish more people would look at it that way...
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imjeffsfan wrote: Apparently they didn't have what they reported they had...a jury of 12 didn't see it... Don't ya think as a faculty member there she knew the camera was there?
I agree...that is why I made the post I did. Obviously the DSP didn't have what they claimed to, and I go back to the numerous news articles that used the word "depicted", in reference to the allleged image of Ms. Fluman on the videotape.
Seen from the back or side someone can easily "depict" someone else if they are relatively close in size, hair color,style etc.
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| Apparently they didn't have what they reported they had...a jury of 12 didn't see it... Don't ya think as a faculty member there she knew the camera was there?
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| Seems odd that if the police had a video as they claim they do, that positively shows Ms. Fluman placing the note, that she would be found not guilty, by all 12 jurors.
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This was from the State news article I read:
"Cpl. Barnett said state police reviewed the school’s video camera system, which he said showed Ms. Fluman placing a note behind the trash can."
http://www.newszap.com/articles/2007/11/29/dm/sussex_county/dsn01.txt
By the link, it looks like it was posted on November 29, 2007.
My kids go to LFHS and they say you can't miss the camera by the gym. It points right at the school store. They say there are cameras all over the school. I noticed a couple the first time I ever visited the school.
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All the news articles I read stated the video tape of the incident "depicted" Ms. Fluman. Nowhere was it ever in print (that I ever saw) that the video tape positively showed Ms. Fluman placing the note.
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| I wouldn't have a clue. I looked back at the articles I could find online, and I can't believe that the police didn't talk to somebody in authority after Mrs. Fluman dropped off the note. I'm not sure how the pecking order of this stuff works, but if you were a police officer, wouldn't you notify a pricipal or somebody in authority if a bomb threat was reported to you?
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| You think a staff member just happened to find a chance to frame her? Or are you saying the student and staff member are working together?
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The paper said that she was videotaped placing a note. I'd assume this videotape was key evidence. I can't think of why it wouldn't have been presented in court. But, it also sounds like 12 jurors looked at the same videotape and didn't see Mrs. Fluman placing any note. It sounds fishy in the first place - if you've ever been to the high school, there are cameras all over the place. You can't miss the one by the gym. Why would Mrs. Fluman do something like this knowing a camera was looking right at her.
And, the DSP News release says another threat printed out while Mrs. Fluman and a police officer were responding to her room - which means she was with a police officer when a note came out of her class printer.
I bet Mrs. Fluman ticked off a student. AND, I bet a staff member that was already ticked off at Mrs. Fluman for some reason (maybe they didn't like her hair style, or teaching style) found an opportunity to be vindictive. The paper said Mrs. Fluman was in charge of the school book store, and that a note was found outside the bookstore. Maybe she was doing something routine outside the bookstore and somebody thought she looked suspicious. It could possibly be that the person saw Mrs. Fluman doing something routine and convinced others that it wasn't just because she/he doesn't like Mrs. Fluman. Basically, the person has destroyed Mrs. Fluman's life and LFHS is supporting it.
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Two Cents I indeed understood what you meant, thus the change in my posts wording. On that note I too believe she is innocent as well.
The one question that remains unanswered for me is this:
Was she set up and why?
Looking into her background that is available online Ms. Fluman has been involved on School Excutive Boards and Councils well before coming to Lake Forest. It would outwardly appear she is well respected by her peers and her community.
Any opinions as to why her?
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| I do not suggest that Mrs. Fluman is other than innocent and I apologize to anybody who misunderstood my posts to mean that she was other than innocent. I am just discussing semantics.
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when found not guilty due to insufficient evidence or a lingering piece of doubt; is called a techanality, I believe. that would explain why we have so many recurring crimes in the US... often enough criminals get off scott free.
i personally believe that Ms. Fluman is innocent and have thought so all along through out this ordeal.
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| There is indeed a difference between being innocent and being found not guilty. A jury who finds one not guilty is returning a verdict that says the prosecution did not prove its case to the satisfaction of that jury. I have sat on juries where in my mind there was little doubt as to whether a defendant had actually done what was alleged, but on the basis of the quality of the evidence presented, the presentation itself, or a vigorous defense, and given the instructions of the judge, there remained sufficient doubt so as to require the rendering of a not guilty verdict.
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| just what is the difference... if you're found not guilty what else are you other than innocent?
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| My discussion about the wording didn't include only tourself, Bluesman -- several others in here have used it too, and I don't know if there was something less than obvious being communicated -- that's the only reason I raised it.
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| Poor selection of wording on my part. I have changed my previous post to not guilty. What may be the key issue is the fact the teacher was arrested for a felony, even though she was found not guilty at trial. Last edited on Mon Jul 28th, 2008 02:56 am by Bluesman
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I am kind of curious about the saying that the asscused was determined to be "innocent", because I believe that she was found "not guilty." I believe there is a difference between those two terms and I don't necessarily believe that they are simply interchangeable. One could be innocent in fact and found not guilty, while I believe that it is also possible to not be innocent but be found not guilty, if for no other reason than a poor presentation of evidence by a prosecution.
I have no idea whether this woman was innocent or not guilty, but it may be that somebody in the educational system believes that they do know.
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| I agree completely...I'm dismayed at the lack of the news coverage of the "not guilty" verdict....the story was hot and heavy when it first occurred, and she was being curcified by the media. Last edited on Mon Jul 28th, 2008 02:54 am by Bluesman
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Unless there is some really exquisite factual information the public has not been made aware of concerning this teacher, I have to believe there is a lawsuit waiting in the wings to be filed against those who would move for revocation of her teaching license or certificate.
Firing somebody is bad enough, but to make it impssible for them to continue a career for which they evidently possess the essential credentials is unconscionable without hard proof that doing so is wholly appropriate.
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Two Cents,
Ultimately I would assume it would be DE-DOE the same agency who issued the license. I expect at the very least a hearing would be held prior to any revocation taking place.
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 06:44 pm |
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Bluesman wrote: ... the school district can recommend to DOE that a teachers license be revoked, provided the request/recommendation is warranted. Unfortunately for the teacher in question she can't even be represented by the teachers union attorney's at this point.
Hmmm .... who decides if the recomendation to revoke a license is warranted? Surely there has to be a supportable basis for such action. I would hope that the jstification to revoke a license is something more than being arrested. There have to be some pretty d**ning facts about the teacher that have not been made public for her to have her license revoked.
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 03:35 pm |
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LostinHarrington wrote: I made a couple of calls last night and it is my understanding that certification isn't easy. There are tests to be taken and passed. Then is continuing ed. afterward and a certain number of education credits must be received during a certain time period (I believe it is 3 years) before recirtification can take place.
I was also told that when a teacher is terminated, if the school district feels it is warranted, the school district can request the DOE rescind the teacher's license.
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No it's not easy..and it is very time consuming as well. There are different levels of certification and licensure in DE. A teacher with an "Emergency Certification/License" has to recertify in 3 years, as well as take any and all classes required to maintain certification.
A teacher with a "Standard Certification/License" has 8 years before recertification/licensure is required, as well as take any and all classes required to maintain certification.
These stipulations are usually always clearly written in the teachers contract with a particular school district.
In MA teachers who only had a BA had 5 years to obtain their Masters or they would loose their certification and license to teach.
I asked my wife , the school district can recommend to DOE that a teachers license be revoked, provided the request/recommendation is warranted. Unfortunately for the teacher in question she can't even be represented by the teachers union attorney's at this point.
Are there any other Lake teacher's or parents who have started a petition to try to force the board to reverse their decision?
Last edited on Sun Jul 27th, 2008 03:47 pm by Bluesman
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 02:03 pm |
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| I'd like to know how the School can justify requesting her license be revoked? On what grounds? What did she do? Nothing, she was proven innocent... I think someone needs to investigate the school district's antics.
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 01:56 pm |
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I made a couple of calls last night and it is my understanding that certification isn't easy. There are tests to be taken and passed. Then is continuing ed. afterward and a certain number of education credits must be received during a certain time period (I believe it is 3 years) before recirtification can take place.
I was also told that when a teacher is terminated, if the school district feels it is warranted, the school district can request the DOE rescind the teacher's license.
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 12:22 pm |
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The school district has nothing to do with revoking or granting teacher certification or licensure.
That is done by each state respectively, as well as nationally for those teachers who become nationally certified.
Employment is next to impossible for teachers right now, due to the education budget cuts. My wife (certified French/Spanish/Italian/ESL) was cut from Woodbridges school district, and was fortunate to just be hired by Cape Henlopen last week.
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Posted: Sun Jul 27th, 2008 07:05 am |
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| I am with you 'Two Cents'. Teachers are licensed/certified and must maintain that; I would like to know how a district tries to revoke a license; especially in this case!!also, how does a district continue their effort to terminate someone? SHE WAS PROVEN INNOCENT!!! Evidently that doesn't mean squat when it comes to keeping your job with Lake...
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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 10:26 pm |
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| I am not a teacher, and I therefore don't know if teachers are actually licensed --- but if they are licensed, which authority issues the license and under what rules? Is it the state, the school district? My further question is since this woman was found not guily of charges for which she stood trial, what would be the basis for the revocation of her teaching license?
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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 08:32 pm |
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I just ran into Mrs. Fluman and her husband at the grocery store. When I asked her about how the job search was going, she said that nobody is interested. She hasn't worked in 9 months, hasn't had one interview, the school district is moving along with termination and having her license revoked, and the future doesn't look good. She also said that her oldest boy will most likely have to drop out of college. At that point he had to excuse herself.
Pretty typical of this town to crucify someone in the funnypapers and continue to kick when the person is down.
LFHS made a horrible mistake and are not honorable enough to admit it, and help her put her life back in order. In fact, it appears that they wish to continue to inflict as much pain as possible and make sure that she'll never teach again. Talk about something being totally wrong. It's unfathonable that our school has come to the point that they feel they never at fault for doing wrong, and do not have to worry about detroying somebody's life for something they didn't do. Just think what they could do to your kids.
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Posted: Sat Jul 26th, 2008 12:18 pm |
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dillpickle wrote: So Bluesman you think what happened to Mrs. Fluman was fair. Even though she was found innocent they are still trying to fire her and take her teaching license. What if this happened to your wife which you mentioned before is a retired teacher. Would you like to have this burden on your shoulders watching your wife and family suffer? Do you realize they are still suffering. No one mentioned the fact that this lady has been on unpaid leave since Novemeber. Should she tell her creditors take it up with Bush?
How do you arrive at the conclusion that I feel what happened is alright ???
We have become complacent and accepting of everything that has happened since 9/11 including having our basic rights stripped away. That is the point I am making, anyone can be accused of a crime, especially a terroristic one.
I personally know someone right now who is sitting in jail since April and had their papers stamped terrorist/criminal. The person is no more a terrorist then you or I are.
As far as the teachers "crime" following her, there is always petitioning to have her record expunged of the arrest.
BTW: My wife is a teacher, at Cape Henlopen NOT a retired teacher.
Last edited on Sat Jul 26th, 2008 12:24 pm by Bluesman
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 09:23 pm |
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I have heard that Mrs. Fluman has been terminated from Lake Forest. As for unpaid leave, I would think b/c she was found innocent, that the district owes her that money up to the present date. I have also heard that she has had interviews, which is GREAT! I would hate to have the stigma (that Lake Forest caused) follow her everywhere...
and ... Lake Forest did cause this whole thing, and yes, I do want Lake to protect our children; but wouldn't a public and a personal apology be appropriate? Hey! but this is the GREAT LAKE! they believe in raising the bar for our children and not their teachers. They get rid of the good teachers and keep some really rough riff-raff that other districts don't want or have let go...
That statement does NOT pertain to ALL teachers at Lake Forest.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25th, 2008 08:56 pm |
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| So Bluesman you think what happened to Mrs. Fluman was fair. Even though she was found innocent they are still trying to fire her and take her teaching license. What if this happened to your wife which you mentioned before is a retired teacher. Would you like to have this burden on your shoulders watching your wife and family suffer? Do you realize they are still suffering. No one mentioned the fact that this lady has been on unpaid leave since Novemeber. Should she tell her creditors take it up with Bush?
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