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Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2008 08:19 pm |
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| Yep -- and even though we may conclude that his was the direct result of something in their personal relationship, if he was capable of killing her, where do we find comfort that he is not similarly capable of doing the same to others?
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Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2008 07:57 pm |
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Sad but true, 2 cents.
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Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2008 06:43 pm |
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It isn't just Capital Green and Capital Park.
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20081018/NEWS/81018008/1006
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Posted: Sat Sep 27th, 2008 05:00 pm |
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Bluesman wrote: curiousindover wrote: Capital Green, and for that matter Capital Park, have been blighted areas around Dover for decades. Not one single rehabilitation project has succeeded in improving the quality of life around either for years. Day care centers come and go, government assistance programs abound for the residents and what do you get. The same old crap. Hell, even the "community policing" program, that had a police officer's headquarters in Capital Green was abandoned quietly after being unveiled as a grand plan. What a bunch of BS. Dover is a melting pot for incompetence. Driven down Governor's Avenue lately? There are two blocks there, that have turned into New Street slums, for the most part. Does the City of Dover even try to improve these areas or crack down on landlords who let their places fall to ruin? Nah, they're too busy fighting guys like Mr. Zimmerman or setting up stupid committees to "improve downtown". We've created a segment of society that has no respect for people, property or anything else, much less themselves. When does it stop? Just curious.
When does it stop, when parents starting taking responsibility and are held criminally responsible for their childrens crimes. Most of these parents don't have a clue what their kids are doing, and many don't care as long as they aren't bothering "mommy or daddy."
I knew a family who had a son who stole over $19,000.00 worth of audio visual equipment from a school that our son also attended. The boy had all the equpment stored in his bedroom at home including a big screen TV and professional quality video cameras, yet his parents claimed they never saw any of it.
Totally agree. There is no way my children - now adults - would have gotten anywhere near that amount of stuff past me or my wife. Of course, they were raised to not even think about it.
Moreover, if the residents of those areas are unwilling to throw the bums out, maybe the City Council regarding Capitol Green and Levy Court for Capital Park* need to get a bunch of bulldozers going and flatten both areas. That these areas have been allowed to tear down the community is a disgrace to both legislative bodies.
I know most residents are minorities and all sorts of howling would result, but minority occupied neighborhoods can thrive in Dover. The areas between south of Forrest Street and north of Water Street, and on the east side of Salisbury Road, have had little problem and the houses well maintained as far back as I can remember, and that's the early 1960s.
* Remember, folks, that Capital Park is not within the Dover City limits. The immediate level of government for the area is Levy Court.
Ain't it strange that none of those Commissioners, past, present, and candidates, discuss the area? Wonder why?
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Bluesman wrote: curiousindover wrote: Capital Green, and for that matter Capital Park, have been blighted areas around Dover for decades. Not one single rehabilitation project has succeeded in improving the quality of life around either for years. Day care centers come and go, government assistance programs abound for the residents and what do you get. The same old crap. Hell, even the "community policing" program, that had a police officer's headquarters in Capital Green was abandoned quietly after being unveiled as a grand plan. What a bunch of BS. Dover is a melting pot for incompetence. Driven down Governor's Avenue lately? There are two blocks there, that have turned into New Street slums, for the most part. Does the City of Dover even try to improve these areas or crack down on landlords who let their places fall to ruin? Nah, they're too busy fighting guys like Mr. Zimmerman or setting up stupid committees to "improve downtown". We've created a segment of society that has no respect for people, property or anything else, much less themselves. When does it stop? Just curious.
When does it stop, when parents starting taking responsibility and are held criminally responsible for their childrens crimes. Most of these parents don't have a clue what their kids are doing, and many don't care as long as they aren't bothering "mommy or daddy."
I knew a family who had a son who stole over $19,000.00 worth of audio visual equipment from a school that our son also attended. The boy had all the equpment stored in his bedroom at home including a big screen TV and professional quality video cameras, yet his parents claimed they never saw any of it.
Well said. What I wonder is how long it is going to take for people to have the guts to stand up to what is really wrong with our society and communities. To ask "what has the City of Dover done" is the mentality that continues to feed into our "blame everyone else for our problems" nation that exists. And it isn't just an issue with low income parents-its all income levels that have the mentality that their kids are always right and noone should tell their kids what to do.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 12:55 pm |
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curiousindover wrote: Capital Green, and for that matter Capital Park, have been blighted areas around Dover for decades. Not one single rehabilitation project has succeeded in improving the quality of life around either for years. Day care centers come and go, government assistance programs abound for the residents and what do you get. The same old crap. Hell, even the "community policing" program, that had a police officer's headquarters in Capital Green was abandoned quietly after being unveiled as a grand plan. What a bunch of BS. Dover is a melting pot for incompetence. Driven down Governor's Avenue lately? There are two blocks there, that have turned into New Street slums, for the most part. Does the City of Dover even try to improve these areas or crack down on landlords who let their places fall to ruin? Nah, they're too busy fighting guys like Mr. Zimmerman or setting up stupid committees to "improve downtown". We've created a segment of society that has no respect for people, property or anything else, much less themselves. When does it stop? Just curious.
When does it stop, when parents starting taking responsibility and are held criminally responsible for their childrens crimes. Most of these parents don't have a clue what their kids are doing, and many don't care as long as they aren't bothering "mommy or daddy."
I knew a family who had a son who stole over $19,000.00 worth of audio visual equipment from a school that our son also attended. The boy had all the equpment stored in his bedroom at home including a big screen TV and professional quality video cameras, yet his parents claimed they never saw any of it.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 07:05 am |
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| Capital Green, and for that matter Capital Park, have been blighted areas around Dover for decades. Not one single rehabilitation project has succeeded in improving the quality of life around either for years. Day care centers come and go, government assistance programs abound for the residents and what do you get. The same old crap. Hell, even the "community policing" program, that had a police officer's headquarters in Capital Green was abandoned quietly after being unveiled as a grand plan. What a bunch of BS. Dover is a melting pot for incompetence. Driven down Governor's Avenue lately? There are two blocks there, that have turned into New Street slums, for the most part. Does the City of Dover even try to improve these areas or crack down on landlords who let their places fall to ruin? Nah, they're too busy fighting guys like Mr. Zimmerman or setting up stupid committees to "improve downtown". We've created a segment of society that has no respect for people, property or anything else, much less themselves. When does it stop? Just curious.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 02:40 am |
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| Since when is two opposing groups engaging in violence nItot "gang related?" It may not be the traditional, big city idea of gangs, but I hate to break it to you folks, there is tons of gang activity in lil ol' Dover
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 02:12 am |
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PTG,
Somewhere along the line these people in today's communities lost the pride and intestinal fortitude that we were taught by our parents. They want to be coddled and held by the nanny state like an infant suckling instead of being adults and standing up for what is rightfully theirs. Sadly there seems to sense of community pride and oneness anymore.
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Posted: Thu Sep 25th, 2008 01:35 am |
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I think it is time the residents of these neighborhoods stand up and throw out the trash.
It took a lot of soldiers lives to convince them of this in Iraq, why can't we do it in America?
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| I think its time the state step up and clean out these neighborhoods. Most of the house's are section 8. There are far more people living in them then there is supposed to be. They sit around and collect welfare checks instead of work for a living. I say, check up on them. If the state finds more people living there then there is supposed to be, kick them all out. They should also do drug tests on these people. If they fail the drug test, kick them out and take them off welfare. I for one, am tired of my hard earned money going to these dead beats who do not work but get everything free. The people who actually need assistance are denied because they "make too much money". This system was supposed to be temporary, to help people get back on their feet. Not to give the dead beats a free ride for life.
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Posted: Wed Sep 24th, 2008 04:56 am |
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What do I think? I think Capitol Green is dangerous. That is what I think.
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Posted: Tue Sep 23rd, 2008 03:28 pm |
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What do you think?
From the Delaware State News:
Simmering feud led to Sat. slaying
Police worry about retaliation, escalation
By Drew Volturo
Delaware State News
DOVER — Martha Wright is worried about what might happen next.
The New Castle Avenue resident heard the gunshot that killed Dover resident Brandon L. Beard shortly after before 1 a.m. Saturday, less than a block from her Capitol Green home.
"I don’t even want to live out here," Ms. Wright said Monday afternoon. "At night, I take my 5-year-old son and we go to stay at a friend’s house outside the neighborhood.
"It’s frightening for my son to be out here. Anything can happen."
Police believe the fatal shooting is the product of a feud between two groups of young people who hang out in the Dover neighborhood and nearby Capitol Park, just outside city limits.
While Dover police spokesman Lt. James E. Hosfelt said there is no direct correlation between Saturday’s incident and an Aug. 5 shooting in Capitol Green in which a 31-year-old female bystander was wounded, he said the bad blood between the groups has simmered in the weeks since.
"I wouldn’t classify it as gang-related action," Lt. Hosfelt said. "It’s groups of people living in both neighborhoods and others … They’re groups of individuals that for whatever reason, whether it’s because they live in the same neighborhood or something else, associate with each other.
"Since (the Aug. 5 shooting) we’ve seen an increase in the altercations between the groups — fights and arguments. Very few, if any, have been reported to the police."
Details of those unreported incidents come from interviews with witnesses and others, Lt. Hosfelt said.
How the feud between the groups got started and exactly how many people are involved is unclear, but police are concerned that Saturday’s shooting might not be the last lashing out between the groups.
"There’s a definite concern about retaliation or retribution," Lt. Hosfelt said. "As we did after the August shooting, we will have an increased police presence in the neighborhood.
"We can increase our presence and stay in an area for a certain amount of time, but unfortunately, eventually we have to get back into what a police department does and protect the rest of the city, too. We can’t divert additional resources long-term to one area of the city."
Dover Mayor Carleton E. Carey Sr. said that an increased police presence can help deter crime and bring a community back to normal and give it a chance to recover.
But, he said, residents need to partner with police in preventing crime.
"Any time residents see a problem, we want them to call the police department," Mayor Carey said. "If there’s something going on or a stranger in the neighborhood or a group gathering, the police need to know that.
"We just can’t tolerate these types of things to take place."
The biggest challenge to cleaning up the neighborhood is getting rid of people who don’t belong there, said Ms. Wright, the New Castle Avenue resident.
"They need to make sure everybody out here lives here," she said. "People who hang out here don’t always live here. People who live here are on the leases."
With witnesses’ help, police arrested Brett Hoskins, 24, of Sandtown Road, Felton, Saturday night and charged him with first-degree murder and possession of a deadly weapon during the commission of a felony in connection with the slaying of Mr. Beard.
He is being held without bond at James T. Vaughn Correctional Center near Smyrna.
Lt. Hosfelt said the victim was walking on New Castle Avenue in the Senate View neighborhood — which is inside Capitol Green — at about 12:45 a.m. when he was shot once "with a small-caliber weapon" in the chest.
Mr. Beard was transported to Bayhealth-Kent General Hospital in Dover for emergency treatment and later died due to the injuries from the gunshot wound.
Monday, a colorful makeshift memorial of candles, stuffed animals and notes adorned a tree near the site of the shooting.
"We talked to the victim’s family, and the mother wants his friends to not retaliate," Lt. Hosfelt said. "She doesn’t want things to escalate from here."
Ms. Wright agreed.
"We’re scared here," she said. "You don’t know if they’re going to come back. You don’t know who’s going to shoot out of anger."
Post your opinions in the public issues forum at newszap.com.Staff writer Drew Volturo can be reached at 741-8296 or dvolturo@newszap.com.
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