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Sen. Biden to see off son -- Attorney general to deploy with National Guard unit
 
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Fred
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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 08:06 pm
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So, what is your point to your previous post? That a JAG should go door-to-door knocking down doors?

My point was that the military has decided that many skill sets are needed in a war zone.  Maybe you don't see the value of a dentist or an accountant, but they are needed, and go where they are told. Beau signed up to be a JAG, and the government got a pretty sweet deal out of his service.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 07:47 pm
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While I missed this little battle I did do 3 tours in the Nam.  My son has done 3 in Iraq so I am well aware of all the fun and games that go on in a battle zone.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 7th, 2008 03:57 pm
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When I was there, our higher headquarters was a brigade and that commander often brought his top JAG officer out on visits to outlaying camps, and the JAG drove the same roads that were getting attacked and IED'ed that everybody else was. While I salute those who kick the doors down, don't downplay the danger that all troops over there face. It is difficult, as we ourselves tend to downplay it, but how would you like to have 500 mortars land in your neighborhood over the course of a year? Sure, many of them fail to go off, and most hit the streets or areas where no damage is done, but you only need one of those to get get lucky to ruin your day.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 6th, 2008 10:14 pm
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I don't think he will be doing house to house searches, though it might be a good idea.  He could ask everybody if they are bad guys.  More likely than not he will never get to see an Iraqi.

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 Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 05:37 pm
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I fail to see anything wrong with a young man is who going off to war and wants to come back alive and enjoy something as simple as local football.  Do you really think he's living his life for just football???  I would imagine that the memory of things like that back home are what keeps these young guys going.

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Two Cents wrote: tspong wrote: But for everyone in the unit, the yearlong deployment will be a difficult mission, both in assignment and in being taken away from home.

Gen. Chambers, a Dover attorney living in Middletown, said the most difficult thing for him is leaving his family behind, especially his 7-year-old daughter. But he hopes that everyone is able to be in touch with their loved ones during the deployment.



A 1984 University of Delaware alumnus, Gen. Chambers said he also will miss Blue Hen football, although he expects to be home in time for the start of the 2009 season.  (emphasis added)


I believe that if I was a member of that unit, I would want for my commander to have something more to live for than "Blue Hen football."   Somebody else who needs to get a life.

Godspeed to that ARNG unit!


God forbid DSN publish a personal note about a fine young man that is committed to his work, family, country and forgive him, UD football.

I really need to change my handle so that I'm not mixed up with idiots that have similar ones.

God bless you and your unit Scott!  And (Dare I) God bless the Hens!

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 Posted: Fri Oct 3rd, 2008 03:09 am
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Well said Fred.  Units that have been deployed from Delaware have had the same type of ceremonies.  It is common sense that if the VP candidate's son is being deployed #1-he will attend and be a part of the ceremony and #2-security measures and crowd control will be tighter.  We should have them all in our thoughts and respect their service regardless of who their parents happen to be. 

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HorseLady13 wrote: You are wrong!

There is only one difference in this group and that it is a Biden.  The son of a man that doesn't know how to tell the truth of anything that has happened to him in his life.  Trying to make himself look like a big shot when he is nothing.

This bunch is NO better than the lesser(as you say) troops and their departure should not be any better than the other troops.  And, I have never seen anything about a big send off for them.  Not in this state anyway.

 

I was in the Guard, and I read all the stories when they deployed...do a bit of research on the sites. They also got a lot of press when they came back, as well.

YES, there is more publicity about this move because we have someone who was elected to stateside office deploying. That is pretty significant, and would have garnered press regardless of who he was. The fact that he was the son of our Senator means there is even more publicity...and the fact that he is running for VP makes that tenfold.

As for Scott...I know him very well. Too well, actually. Knew him when he got promoted to CPT. He is a good man, and cares for more about UD football...if he did, he wouldn't give up the opportunity to watch at least a quarter of the games having to work weekends during football season.

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It's too bad that plans were changed at the last minute today.  The number of people the unit could invite was halved this afternoon (a friend of mine has a 21 year old son in this unit.)  They were told today that they could only have 8 people attend now for each member.  There are family members who aren't going to be able to attend, or at least not in the family section.   I had to go past the Mall today, there are barricades up and everything, guess the Secret Service will be present.    It will be interesting to see where all the people who work in the state buildings are going to park!

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tspong wrote: But for everyone in the unit, the yearlong deployment will be a difficult mission, both in assignment and in being taken away from home.

Gen. Chambers, a Dover attorney living in Middletown, said the most difficult thing for him is leaving his family behind, especially his 7-year-old daughter. But he hopes that everyone is able to be in touch with their loved ones during the deployment.


A 1984 University of Delaware alumnus, Gen. Chambers said he also will miss Blue Hen football, although he expects to be home in time for the start of the 2009 season.  (emphasis added)


I believe that if I was a member of that unit, I would want for my commander to have something more to live for than "Blue Hen football."   Somebody else who needs to get a life.

Godspeed to that ARNG unit!

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 Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 07:42 pm
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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:

Brigade prepared for 'tall order' in Iraq

Guard deployment ceremony Friday on Legislative Mall


By Drew Volturo


Delaware State News


DOVER — Although it has been coming for months, the impending deployment of Delaware National Guard’s 261st Signal Brigade will become a little more real today when the 115-soldier unit is formally mobilized.


"It’s obviously difficult, and reality starts to set in when you get down to crunch time and make the final arrangements," said Brig. Gen. Scott Chambers, who will command the Army Guard unit in Iraq.


"Our footlockers are already shipped and (today), we’ll be bringing out duffel bags with everything we need for a year."


The brigade will convene on Legislative Mall Friday for a deployment ceremony that is expected to draw more than 1,000, due in large part to one of its members, Attorney General Joseph R. "Beau" Biden III, a Guard captain, and an appearance by his father, vice-presidential candidate Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., D-Del.


The group, the first Delaware Army Guard unit to be mobilized in more than a year, will be responsible for providing all types of communication in the Iraqi theater — including voice, data and computer — said Maj. Gen. Francis D. Vavala, adjutant general for the Delaware National Guard.


"It is a tall order for them, but I have every confidence they will be successful in what they do," Gen. Vavala said.


But for everyone in the unit, the yearlong deployment will be a difficult mission, both in assignment and in being taken away from home.


Gen. Chambers, a Dover attorney living in Middletown, said the most difficult thing for him is leaving his family behind, especially his 7-year-old daughter. But he hopes that everyone is able to be in touch with their loved ones during the deployment.


"My father was in the Marine Corps at Iwo Jima," he said. "He was away for several years and he didn’t have e-mail to keep in touch with his family."


A 1984 University of Delaware alumnus, Gen. Chambers said he also will miss Blue Hen football, although he expects to be home in time for the start of the 2009 season.


The guardsmen remaining stateside have a vital role to play in supporting the soldiers’ families while they are away, Gen. Vavala said.


"What you’re doing is allowing the soldiers being deployed to focus on their mission without worrying about who is taking care of their families, because we are," he said. "It’s at the top of our must-do list."


That support from the Guard, co-workers and others makes the upcoming difficult assignment easier to approach, Gen. Chambers said, noting that attorneys are picking up his caseload in his absence.


"I went to the orthopedist the other day and he hugged me," Gen. Chambers said.


"(All of this) allows the soldiers to focus on what’s important — we’ve got an important mission over there. The preseason is over. The regular season starts (today)."


The soldiers have spent months training in several areas, including combat lifesaving, heat training, Humvee rollover training, legal briefings and use-of-force training.


After Friday’s deployment ceremony, they soldiers will fly to Fort Bliss, Texas, for training specific to their assignment in Iraq before shipping out.


Gen. Vavala said he has great pride in the 261st Signal Brigade and is confident it will carry on the great legacy and heritage of the Delaware Guard, which traces its roots to the Colonial Army.


"It’s almost like I’m the father of the organization and these are my children," Gen. Vavala said. "My family is being deployed.


"It’s going to be a very heart-wrenching and emotional ceremony. It is bittersweet, but there is a tremendous sense of pride."


Staff writer Drew Volturo can be reached at 741-8296 or dvolturo@newszap.com.

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You are wrong!

There is only one difference in this group and that it is a Biden.  The son of a man that doesn't know how to tell the truth of anything that has happened to him in his life.  Trying to make himself look like a big shot when he is nothing.

This bunch is NO better than the lesser(as you say) troops and their departure should not be any better than the other troops.  And, I have never seen anything about a big send off for them.  Not in this state anyway.

 

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 Posted: Thu Oct 2nd, 2008 03:16 pm
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You are wrong.

http://www.delawarenationalguard.com/dngnews/aug02/mps.htm

All Guard units get roughly the same send-off. This one IS getting more publicity, but the same bands, the same local support, the same politicians will be there.

Now.....one small difference is that this is a brigade headquarters unit versus a MP company.  What is the difference? The rank, age, and standing of the people in the unit. When an MP company deploys, you've got a lot of younger kids, but the Brigade has a higher rank structure, and they tend to have a larger role in the community, so more people are aware of them leaving..and are affected.

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I think it is a bunch of bull, nothing was done for the other soldiers that left Delaware for the service.

Biden is no more special than all the others and nothing should have been done for him that couldn't have been done for all the soldiers in this state. I think that it shows all the other soldiers just how worthless they are to this state for the government to just have a big "party" for someone that was put in office by his name only and voted in their by their "paid" friends up state.  And then to flaunt it in the faces of familys  and soldiers in the lower part of the state.  It is a sorry government that we have in this state.

Each soldier is worth his weight in gold and brave enough to join the service at this time and serve voluntarily and not get a royal sendoff from their government is a crying shame.

This is a sorry state.

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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:

Guard event Fri. to limit Dover traffic

Biden involvement will close roads, restrict parking


By Drew Volturo


Delaware State News


DOVER — Getting to work and getting around downtown Dover will be trickier than usual Friday, with parking restricted, roads closed and about 1,000 visitors expected for the Delaware National Guard deployment ceremony.


One hundred and fifteen soldiers will assemble on Legislative Mall for the sendoff, with family, friends and military VIPs on hand to salute the members of the 261st Signal Brigade on the eve of their yearlong deployment to Iraq.


But Friday’s ceremony has garnered a lot of attention due to one fairly notable soldier — Attorney General Joseph R. "Beau" Biden III — and his famous father, Democratic vice-presidential candidate and Delaware Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.


With the high-profile parent expected to be in attendance, security has been heightened. The Secret Service is taking the lead in coordinating with local police agencies and securing the area.


The four roads surrounding Legislative Mall — Legislative Avenue, and Duke of York, William Penn and Federal streets — will be closed, and the 160 parking spaces along those roads will be lost for the day.


"Parking is going to be tight, and that might be an understatement," said Division of Facilities Management director Robert Furman.


"Visitors might have to park blocks and blocks away and walk to the capitol complex, carpool, arrive as early as possible or avoid the area altogether."


Several state agencies — including Office of Management and Budget, Division of Public Archives and the departments of Education and Health and Social Services — call the capitol complex surrounding Legislative Mall home, and use the street spaces for parking.


Mr. Furman noted that the parking lots behind those state buildings all are accessible from other roads, but he still cautioned that parking will be at a premium and workers and visitors need to arrive early.


"The later you get to the capitol complex, the farther away you’re going to have to park," said Mr. Furman, adding that OMB explored several possibilities to alleviate the parking conundrum, including shuttling state workers from a remote parking lot, but nothing was viable.


Fortunately for those attending the deployment ceremony, the Guard will be running shuttles from the Blue Hen Corporate Center, said Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Leonard Gratteri, bringing family and friends to and from the event.


That should cut down on vehicles hunting for a limited number of parking spaces, as will having fewer state employees in the area.


Department of Education spokesman Ronald Gough said the agency, like several other state offices, has a flex-schedule program that allows employees to take off the last day in a two-week cycle if they already have worked their normal workload of 75 hours.


There also is the option of some working from home via telecommuting, but that decision is up to each division director, Mr. Gough said.


Other options to conserve space include a van pool and parking in reserved spots if the person is out of town.


"If I know the secretary of education is not going to be in, I can park in her space, and that frees up a spot in the lot," Mr. Gough said.


The parking situation also has a ripple effect on The Green, where the Kent County Courthouse stands.


With a new courthouse under construction, the former Robert W. O’Brien Building’s parking lot is out of commission, forcing court personnel to park on The Green, around the capitol complex or in a parking lot about two blocks away.


Rather than fight the wave, Kent County Superior Court will be closed on Friday, deputy court administrator Joe Klenoski said. Kent County Court of Common Pleas will continue with its normal caseload.


Staff writer Drew Volturo can be reached at 741-8296 or dvolturo@newszap.com.

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Amen from me as well, HB

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Amen, HB.

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All of us, regardless of political persuasion, wish for the safe return of the AG and his fellow Guard members and respect their service to the Country.

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What do you think?

From the Delaware State News:  Sen. Biden to see off son

Attorney general to deploy with National Guard unit


By Drew Volturo


Delaware State News


DOVER — Delaware Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. has helped send off several National Guard units deploying from the First State, but next week’s send-off is certainly special.


The senator’s elder son, Attorney General Joseph R. "Beau" Biden III, is one of the soldiers scheduled to deploy with the Delaware National Guard’s 261st Signal Brigade in October, with the yearlong mission taking the Guard captain to Iraq.


Despite his high profile as the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, Sen. Biden is expected to attend the Oct. 3 deployment ceremony on Legislative Mall, Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Leonard Gratteri said Thursday.


"From what we’ve been told, he’s planning to attend," Lt. Col. Gratteri said. "He’s supposed to address the troops. He’s done that every time we’ve deployed a unit when he’s in the state."


The 261st Signal Brigade, which is headquartered in Smyrna, received an alert order in February and got its mobilization orders about two months ago.


The brigade will report to Fort Bliss in Texas on Oct. 5 for additional training "specific to the Iraqi theater" that could last from four to 10 weeks, Lt. Col. Gratteri said.


Mr. Biden, a Guard captain, is a judge advocate general — a military lawyer. He would serve as a prosecutor for the U.S. Army and help enforce the Uniform Code of Military Justice.


With a vice-presidential candidate expected to attend the event, Dover police spokesman Lt. James E. Hosfelt said officers from several agencies will be meeting Monday to discuss security at Legislative Mall.


The ceremony, which is open to the public and is expected to draw about 750 people, will create a travel and parking issue for state workers, with parking prohibited and the four streets surrounding Legislative Mall closed for most of the workday.


In a memorandum Monday to state employees, Capitol Police said state employees who normally use parking spaces around the mall should make alternative plans.


Capitol Police contacted DART about providing shuttle service, but have been informed that all buses are used for routine daily service and unavailable to shuttle state workers, the memo stated.


Staff writer Drew Volturo can be reached at 741-8296 or dvolturo@newszap.com


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