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Posted: Sun Oct 5th, 2008 01:06 am |
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| What does vetting a horse mean? Is it simialr to vetting a VP Candidate for Election?
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Posted: Wed Oct 1st, 2008 03:54 pm |
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| This emaciated animal cannot speak for himself to tell you how he feels. If you look at the pictures you can see ribs/hips and no muscle at all. And the animal is expected to pull a carriage behind it along with carrying people and the harness it is wearing around it's neck.. This is pathetic. It doesn't matter how you feel about "a beast of burden", just take care of it! That includes vetting the horse and using a real vet....common sense.
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Posted: Wed Oct 1st, 2008 03:20 pm |
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| EquusEMS - When did you find this out??? I wonder if he's getting s**t from relatives and other Amish bout this.......I sure hope so!!!
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Posted: Wed Oct 1st, 2008 02:42 am |
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The jackass owner, Marvin, is asking $1400 for the skinny horse, he 'rescued' from New Holland. The poor horse probably is wishing he HAD a captive bolt through his head, compared to the slow starving death Marvin is forcing on him.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 11:55 pm |
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I know I'm just getting in on the tail end of this but, I want to state that for a fact I know many Amish that treat their horses very well. They are vetted and blacksmithed regularly. This guy at the sale was not the rule but probably the exception to it. I agree that if they or anyone owns a horse it should be maintained in a healthy condition or the owner should be willing to sell it. It has been discovered that this man had owned the animal for a long period of time. BUT, I wish to remind everyone that you should not jump to conclusions about an animals treatment with out confirming its state. I have been given many horses over the years because the owners can no longer take care of them. One i got was so bad. I had the vet coem out the day after i got him and was told that it had three feeti n the grave and one on a banana peel. We cared for the animal and returned him to a healthy state. we had him for 14 years when he died peacefully at the age of 40. He was used to teach kids to tack horses, groom, pick feet, harness, lead, and anything else that didn't require riding or strenuous work. this again is the exception not the rule. We were given a few some time back that didn't make it.
Mind you I am not a rescue agency, I am not a non-profit organization. Any money i use for this is out of my own pocket and budget. And my animals are frequently treated better then i treat my self. They get the blacksmith before i get new sneakers. they get the vet before i go to the doctors. WHy? because i beleive that if you are going to cage something up then you have to provide for it's every need.
I have been around horses all my life-I know there are good horse owners and bad horse owners, just like there are good and bad in everything. Don't condemn the Amish as a whole for the ill of one. And don't assume that just because a horse is skinny when you saw it that it was made that way by the person you see it with. My annual vet bill is equal to if not greater then my annual vehicle maintaince bills many times that is just shots and preventative care.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 10:17 pm |
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In the same vein of extremely bigoted discussion, the next time you see a hoopty car driving down the road, question the owner why he doesn't do proper maintenance on his vehicle.
BTW a horse is a beast of burden, not a pet.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 08:16 pm |
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Amish or not, there are rules to common sense when you own animals. They are to be fed, watered, sheltered and taken to the vet when they look like there is something wrong with them. Has this horse had his fall shots? He was exposed to every horse on the property not only that day, but airborne droplets from his nose are the largest contaminates of contagious infections/disease. This poor horse pulled a carriage to and from in the unhealthy shape he was in. Did the owner not notice that this horse was in dire need of food and/or vet care? Get real. Is it because the owner was Amish that the rules do not apply? The Amish drive their horses as their means of transportation. They need to be maintained just as we maintain our vehicles. I've seen carriage horses driven thru Dover on the highways, sweating and breathing so heavily because they have to pull the carriage miles next to tractor trailers. Drive down paved roads that cause splints in their legs and tied to a light pole at the mall for hours without water or shelter. Horses to the Amish are a beast of burden. When they can no longer pull the carriage, they end up at auction, heading to the "killer pens".
Kudos for reporting such animal abuse! I wish there were more people out there that had the guts to do it. I certainly will if I see it.
So the next time you see a carriage on the road, slow down and take a look at the condition of the horse pulling it.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 06:06 pm |
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Great work! Thanks for letting us all know. I can rest a little easier knowing this horse is being looked after.
Thank you!!
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 05:07 pm |
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Ok...the horse got Vet Checked, shots & teeth filed. SPCA ordered Marvin to put weight on the horse. So they'll be checking up on him now, which I am glad. And YES it IS Marvins fault the horse is like this. He's been told by many ppl that the horse needs to be fed more or vet checked cause he doesn't look good. Apparently Marvin is too dumb to listen or do anything about it. He's had this horse for quite a few years.
This was MARVIN's fault and YES he needs to be held accountable for it. But please don't blame all the other Amish for HIS stupidity.
**I'm going to keep tabs on whats going on.
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Posted: Tue Sep 30th, 2008 02:13 pm |
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DoverFarmGirl - I am not making "excuses" for the (ur words, not mine) Scumbag. Has anyone found out the reason why the horse looked like that?? Had he just bought him at a sale recently?? Is the horse ill?? I'm not blaming him yet till I know what the hell is going on. And I WILL find out....since I seem to know of him and you don't.
And if he is at fault and to blame for that horses condition, you can bet ur boots I'll tell him what I think and hope he pays for it. Sorry....no animal needs to be treated that way.
If an animal is in that condition and someone takes it in and takes care of it etc...it takes awhile to get it back to its normal weight/health. And depending on the damage...they might always be on the "thin" side. Course if that "is" the case here, (i don't know yet) that horse, in my opinion, shouldn't be used yet till its completely healthy again.
And no not all Amish are bad/scumbags thank you. They're ppl just like u and me...doesn't matter what religion. There are good and bad ppl everywhere.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 10:42 pm |
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I personally had no problem with any Amish, until I witnessed this incident. Noone said all Amish are cruel to their horses, just this particular piece of crap was.
Read these other examples:
http://www.gratefulacres.org/lio.htm
http://www.phillyblog.com/philly/spirituality-faith/52974-reality-animal-abuse-amish.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfJ7HEMrIc
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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 10:34 pm |
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| I guess you don't like the Amish. That's your choice, but, it is like blasting the Baptist Church because of a bad member. Your lack of tolerance is showing.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 09:35 pm |
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| Don't make excuses for the scumbag. The only thing wrong with the horse is that it wasn't being fed. I live on a horse farm and I would never allow one of my horses, or any animal foer that matter, to end up in that condition. People say that the Amish are such good people, but I don't see it.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 06:44 pm |
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Yeh that doesn't make sense he didn't take the money. Nope..diff last name. lol
Yep thats Marvin. Rude and abrasive? I've never seen him like that...but only see him once in awhile.
I'll def see him on the 18th of Oct, so am going to find out what the heck is going on!!
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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 06:26 pm |
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I could guess his last name is Miller, Swartzentruber, or Yoder?
Ask him why he doesn't feed his horse, and why he wasn't willing to sell the horse in such poor condition to someone who was willing to give him MONEY to put some weight on it and take care of it properly?
He was very rude and abrasive to everyone at the auction.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 06:20 pm |
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| Omg! I know who Marvin is. (I'm not going to post his last name) I honestly do not believe he'd do anything to harm an animal. I am wondering if there is something wrong w/ the horse. But you can bet next time I see him I will ask him!!!
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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 12:54 am |
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| Over the years, I have always been surprised at how some of the Amish seem to treat their horses -- the very horses they choose to depend upon for both farm labor and transporttion. It always sort of confused me as to their seeming lack of caring about them. Last edited on Mon Sep 29th, 2008 01:57 am by Two Cents
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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 12:16 am |
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2 officers responded out, after multiple calls from a concerned crowd at the auction.
They let the owner drive his skeletal horse home, and said they 'gave him 48 hours to get a vet out to check the horse'.
If they gave the Segos back their horses in court, what hope does this poor horse have?
Multiple kind people offers the Amish man up to ONE THOUSAND dollars for this horse, everyone was desperate to get the horse away from him. He declined, saying 'it was too big of a deal with everyone watching' what a JERK.
Shouldn't the SPCA have the right to have taken that horse somewhere to get it checked by a vet IMMEDIATELY, and give it food? Who knows what retalitory punishment this Amish man did to the horse on the long drive home. It was a sad sad scene.
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Posted: Mon Sep 29th, 2008 12:12 am |
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EquusEMS wrote: Yesterday, at the Wicked R Ranch, multiple horrified people called the SPCA, to complain about an emaciated Amish cart horse, tied to a pole at the auction.
When the SPCA responded, the owner responded to the crowd's outcry of "Your horse is SKINNY!" With a smirking, "SO?"
What was the SPCA's response to the condition of the horse? Any action at all?
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Posted: Sun Sep 28th, 2008 11:46 pm |
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Yesterday, at the Wicked R Ranch, multiple horrified people called the SPCA, to complain about an emaciated Amish cart horse, tied to a pole at the auction.
When the SPCA responded, the owner responded to the crowd's outcry of "Your horse is SKINNY!" With a smirking, "SO?"
The owner, Marvin, a local school teacher in an Amish school denied there was any thing wrong with the horse's condition.
The horse was unable to reach grass, was not provided with water, and was so emaciated all ribs, top line, and hip bones protruded.
Why does the State of Delaware turn a blind eye to this kind of abuse, by the Amish community??
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