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Fred wrote: As for the concept...meh. There is a reason why cops are there, and why they go through such rigiorious training to carry weapons. I'm not against people carrying, but I am a realist to know that cops have issues when it comes to those few times most ever draw their weapon. Do you seriously think that somehow you will be better trained, equipped, prepared, and able to react then a cop?
Fred, I have never heard of someone being attacked for the contents of their wallet with an officer of the law in the muggers' sight.
And, since police can't be everywhere 24/7, I'm all for folks being armed if they so choose, and if they're legal and trained in weapon care. A community that has the reputation of crime victims shooting back isn't going to have too many problems. After all, thieves don't want to linger - they want in and out ASAP.
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Very few guns who are owned by folks legally allowed to possess, who have been properly trained in their use and care, and have developed and maintained skill in their use, are used in criminal activity. I believe it's less than 1%.
I agree; but would you also agree that the majority of weapons don't meet that criteria? I think we could also agree that developing and maintaining the skill isn't simply pulling it out once a year and plinking some cans.
As for the concept...meh. There is a reason why cops are there, and why they go through such rigiorious training to carry weapons. I'm not against people carrying, but I am a realist to know that cops have issues when it comes to those few times most ever draw their weapon. Do you seriously think that somehow you will be better trained, equipped, prepared, and able to react then a cop?
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Posted: Sat Dec 27th, 2008 12:44 am |
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| And, the flash is good for lighting up the perp for a good photo in action.
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Posted: Thu Dec 25th, 2008 05:36 pm |
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I agree. Criminals who even think their intended victims are armed or can otherwise defend themselves will likely look for an easier target.
Very few guns who are owned by folks legally allowed to possess, who have been properly trained in their use and care, and have developed and maintained skill in their use, are used in criminal activity. I believe it's less than 1%.
Gun control means using BOTH HANDS.
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Posted: Thu Dec 25th, 2008 01:22 pm |
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| You folks are too fixated on photographing your assailants. Carry and use your .44 magnum -- it will be far more effective in protecting you from assault.
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I've used the parking too! I understand your concern, but police do , do their rounds there and the most of the business are closed by dark in that area. The ally way is lighted and i understand there are plans to have cameras up soon along the backs of the stores.
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Posted: Thu Dec 25th, 2008 12:19 pm |
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The parking lot is nice as long as you walk softly and carry a big stick and maybe a gun.
I have had the chance to use it , three times and will not use it again unless I have some one with me. The back of the stores it is next to has it's daily thugs and druggies going through there at all times day and night. Maybe camera and some paid guard and police presence will change my mind.
I looking at two buildings that are for rent there , The old bakery and flower shop both seem to be pretty good traffic wise. Windows of opportunity , but I need to know I don't have worry about my customers.
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Gotcha...now it makes sense. Thanks for the clarification! Merry Christmas 
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wy de native wrote: FromFelton wrote: This is False, they need to prove that is was Unlocked, or probrable that it was unlocked. Ususlly the only way for them to assume it was unlocked, was if it was stolen out of your driveway, by checking the other cars in your driveway.
How would they know it was not broken into, criminals don't just break windows to break in, sometimes, especially in the case of stealing a car, they use a slim jim. It only takes seconds to get the door open.
WHAT????!!
Sorry, I was referring to the person that said that, in the event that your car is stolen, that you have to prove that your doors were locked to recieve payment from your insurance company. I should have used the quote button.
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FromFelton wrote: This is False, they need to prove that is was Unlocked, or probrable that it was unlocked. Ususlly the only way for them to assume it was unlocked, was if it was stolen out of your driveway, by checking the other cars in your driveway.
How would they know it was not broken into, criminals don't just break windows to break in, sometimes, especially in the case of stealing a car, they use a slim jim. It only takes seconds to get the door open.
WHAT????!!
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This is False, they need to prove that is was Unlocked, or probrable that it was unlocked. Ususlly the only way for them to assume it was unlocked, was if it was stolen out of your driveway, by checking the other cars in your driveway.
How would they know it was not broken into, criminals don't just break windows to break in, sometimes, especially in the case of stealing a car, they use a slim jim. It only takes seconds to get the door open.
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Posted: Mon Dec 22nd, 2008 09:17 am |
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Hey! I do agree with your opinion and hope what's the best change that would happen? Of course,Libermans bookstore would be a good choice indeed.
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| I agree Fred, it would be worth looking into and trying to plan around. You have to start *somewhere*. We are all aware it's not the size of Newark campus but it would still be worth attracting some shops that cater to that age group. They're spending money on Main Street in Newark and I know that they'll walk as far as Smithers! A good bookstore like Liebermans would be good. If it's not something Wesley is interested in, the PTB in downtown should think about it. Last edited on Mon Oct 27th, 2008 08:53 pm by violetdragonfly
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Posted: Sat Oct 25th, 2008 03:39 pm |
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I don't think Wesley wants to expand too much beyond what they are right now. I do think that once should leverage the Wesley student body a bit to make things more attractive to them to get them downtown (Bikewerks is a good example...and no, I don't own stock in them).
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 10:35 pm |
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There is no comparison between the two and why would Wesley even bother?
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Here is an example..... The U of D owns most of main street in Newark. Now granted, they are huge compared to Wesley and Del State... but perhaps Wesley (who is land-locked) could start to buy up some properties downtown. Wesley's annual budget is $35M (what Mr. Johnston told me today). The U of D is a major enterprise - more than a college. They use students as cheap labor to run some of their for-profit enterprises. So, this is one example of how downtown could be affected for the better.
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| BTW, Crumbs is awesome. I got a large cheesesteak from there. I kid you not it was two and a half feet long! And it wasnt crappy frozen steak either. Definately the best cheesesteak Ive ever had. Last edited on Sat Oct 25th, 2008 01:28 am by stevem
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 02:46 am |
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Fred wrote: The shops downtown are never going to be able to compete on price on the goods they sell. They might be able to do it on service, but only for a while.
Another good business is BikeWerks. There are not a lot of options in Dover, but this shop has become my favorite for getting parts and service. They do good work...not a lot of stock, but I certainly worth it if you or your kids need a good bike.
I agree. Got bikes there and it was a better experience than the one on 13.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2008 02:45 am |
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Here is an example..... The U of D owns most of main street in Newark. Now granted, they are huge compared to Wesley and Del State... but perhaps Wesley (who is land-locked) could start to buy up some properties downtown. Wesley's annual budget is $35M (what Mr. Johnston told me today). The U of D is a major enterprise - more than a college. They use students as cheap labor to run some of their for-profit enterprises. So, this is one example of how downtown could be affected for the better.
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| Sorry Steve, I didn't see Kirks' review. It certainly sounds like a bad experience. I can only hope that is was because they had just opened. Guess I was having a bad day.
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The shops downtown are never going to be able to compete on price on the goods they sell. They might be able to do it on service, but only for a while.
Another good business is BikeWerks. There are not a lot of options in Dover, but this shop has become my favorite for getting parts and service. They do good work...not a lot of stock, but I certainly worth it if you or your kids need a good bike.
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DelawareNative wrote: I think we will see change downtown. But it will take time.
Well, it has been 25 years or so since Sears dealt the death blow to downtown by moving to the mall, so I suppose that you are no doubt right -- this is going to take time.
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I think we will see change downtown. But it will take time.
Eddie Perez was in charge of main street dover, to bring new businesses downtown. I witnessed him mishandle a potential shopkeeper that wanted to setup shop on Lookerman. He will be replaced soon with a new organization.
Will a parking lot fix all the ills of Lookerman? No! But it is a step in the right direction. LEX sat empty for years, and I would rather someone try to create a business there that focuses on service, than see it empty.
33West - Great little restaurant. Have had many business lunches there, and I recommend it. @ViolentDragonfly: thanks for the Crumbs recommendation - will try them.
Let's not forget that we are in a pretty deep recession, where it will be harder for ANY business to get a loan and start a business on Lookerman. Real estate values and lending are also an issue. We probably won't see change until the new downtown organization gets rolling, the election is over, the recession starts to pass, and folks step up to invest in downtown. The other issues will take care of themselves after that as long as the city is committed to helping businesses downtown.
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2centsworth wrote: stevem wrote: I apologize for coming off as a jerk. Kirk said it better than I did. BTW I'll give the LEX about 6 months before its out of business again. Ive never even been in that place, Ive heard enough stories about it and its $$. Me personally I like the Lobby House. Decent food, decent prices, good service. Its a good place to eat as long as you go before it turns into party time. Even then its a good place to go to with your friends and have a couple drinks. I always avoid smithers. That place is so packed with frat boy "brah" types. You cant even walk through the joint. Plus the bartender will never wait on you if youre a guy.
Typical Dover bashing. The LEX will be out of business in 6 months and I've never been there but I've heard stories!
The new owners have done a wonderful job and deserve a shot, not a small minded blow-hard that won't even give it a try.
In case you haven't noticed, Bel boutique, 33 West, Dover Newsstand and many others are doing well. We need to support them all!
Why the hell would I want to try a restraunt that everyone says is overpriced and bad? Kirks review basically echoes every other review about that place. Thats why they have reviews for restraunts. Im not going to waste my hard earned money to try an establishment that everyone tells me is horrible. I guess that makes me a small minded blowhard.
And Im sorry but downtown dover deserves a bashing. Theres is nothing there! Maybe a store for every 3 or 4 vacant storefronts. It's a ghost town except for bums and crackheads and maybe some customers patronizing one of the 10 stores on the street. Something needs to be done there to stimulate positive growth there other than building a parking lot. Theres plenty of parking spaces already, its just theres really nothing worth going to see or do there.
If you want to see an idea of what a real downtown main street is check out downtown Ellicott City Maryland
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violetdragonfly wrote: 2cents, have you eaten at Crumbs yet? I had one of their wraps the other day(cajun chicken salad in a sundried tomato wrap), omg, was it good!! Some of my coworkers had some other sandwiches and wraps from there, everyone was really pleased with what they got.
I haven't but I will give it a try. Unlike some, I don't simply take the word of others (Good or bad). I like to try it myself. Born and raised in Dover (Pre-malls) I have fond memories of the downtown area. Although challenged, I give huge credit to those bold enough to give it a go
Thanks for the info Violet and thanks to everyone who ventures down to Loockerman. Let's give them a chance.
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| 2cents, have you eaten at Crumbs yet? I had one of their wraps the other day(cajun chicken salad in a sundried tomato wrap), omg, was it good!! Some of my coworkers had some other sandwiches and wraps from there, everyone was really pleased with what they got.
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stevem wrote: I apologize for coming off as a jerk. Kirk said it better than I did. BTW I'll give the LEX about 6 months before its out of business again. Ive never even been in that place, Ive heard enough stories about it and its $$. Me personally I like the Lobby House. Decent food, decent prices, good service. Its a good place to eat as long as you go before it turns into party time. Even then its a good place to go to with your friends and have a couple drinks. I always avoid smithers. That place is so packed with frat boy "brah" types. You cant even walk through the joint. Plus the bartender will never wait on you if youre a guy.
Typical Dover bashing. The LEX will be out of business in 6 months and I've never been there but I've heard stories!
The new owners have done a wonderful job and deserve a shot, not a small minded blow-hard that won't even give it a try.
In case you haven't noticed, Bel boutique, 33 West, Dover Newsstand and many others are doing well. We need to support them all!
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Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 01:26 am |
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| If it isn't broken into, it is assumed to be unlocked. You need to prove it was locked.
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| If someone chooses to hotwire my vehicle and steal it, they are welcome to it and obviously need transportation worse than I do! My policy doesn't cover glass, and it's a higher probability that someone would break that then take the whole thing. But how, precisely, does an insurance company prove that the doors weren't locked to begin with?
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| I apologize for coming off as a jerk. Kirk said it better than I did. BTW I'll give the LEX about 6 months before its out of business again. Ive never even been in that place, Ive heard enough stories about it and its $$. Me personally I like the Lobby House. Decent food, decent prices, good service. Its a good place to eat as long as you go before it turns into party time. Even then its a good place to go to with your friends and have a couple drinks. I always avoid smithers. That place is so packed with frat boy "brah" types. You cant even walk through the joint. Plus the bartender will never wait on you if youre a guy. Last edited on Mon Oct 20th, 2008 10:26 pm by stevem
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I disagree with stevem's method, but I agree with the general sentiment. It is hard to imagine why having additional parking spaces in downtown would attract additional people to closed storefronts. My last walking trip into downtown was reminiscent of my years in Detroit, including one pan-handler and a drug-addict offering sex for payment to make a score - all out on the sidewalk of Loockerman at 3pm.
The new LEx was a strange experience. In the dining area, the drinks were served in plastic dixie-cups ($20.00 entrees served with mixed drinks in bathroom style dixie-cups... and this is supposed to be fine dining?), the food was not cooked to order, the wait staff was disorganized and argued in the dining area over who was to cover which tables, and the prices were pretty high. Add in the waitress that dumped the sauce off my entree plate onto the table without ever returning with a towel to clean it up or attempting to fix the situation (why would someone ordering a dinner served with a sauce expect to have the sauce?), and the mish-mash of televisions tuned to different stations but all having their sound turned up, and I would be hard pressed to return. Now I understand that if we had been there at a time when the chef is present the food would have been better, but shouldn't they change their menu so that the rest of their staff can figure out how to stuff it in the microwave if they cannot cook? I had hoped they would be successful, and I still do. This city could use more businesses owned and operated locally, but they have a long way to go before I would be convinced to return. They need to start with a menu that anyone on staff can cook, because in a pinch they will. They need to pretend their waitresses have never served a real table in their lives, because the ones I saw have not. Taking the senior staff to the restaurant you want to imitate and drilling them on processes might help.
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DelawareNative wrote: stevem wrote: I for one applaud this measure to increase parking. I am often frustrated when I go down to New Street to buy some crack and a toothless prostitute only to find there is no place for me to park. Same situation when I go down there to get my haircut at one of the 8 "barber shops" (drug fronts), the kinky lingerie store, or visit the House of PRIDE (shame), dovers premier drug rehab center located right on the scenic main street for all the tourists to see. As a Dover resident, this new parking will definately attract me and out of town visitors back to downtown dover so we can browse the countless empty store fronts, be harrassed by the bums, and admire the artwork of local artists "Poop" and "Sure".
please stop with the racist trolling. no one finds it funny or witty.
How am I being racist? or witty? Where exactly do I mention race anywhere in my post? I definately dont think I was trying to be funny either. Theres nothing funny about the pathetic state of downtown dover. I was merely making a statement about what a s**thole dowtown dover is. Im just saying as a dover resident for the past 5 years this town sucks goat balls. The only kind of people im predjudiced against are criminals and losers (white and black). ITs sad how this town has about 4 or 5 tattoo parlors, about 800 liquor stores but only one library complete with security guard. (two if you count that joke they call a library in Camden). Downtown Dover needs alot more than a parking lot. Dover in general needs some help. Its pretty sad when I looked on the cover of the Dover Post last year and they had a cover story about that drug rehab center. Thats just so shameful that someone thought that the drug rehab center would be a worthy news story. Or the news story I read about the new tattoo parlor opening up. Wow another tattoo parlor, so trashy people can get more trashy tattoos all over their necks and hands. I am pleasently surprised that dover lacks a seedy sex shoppe considering you cant walk 5 feet without bumping into a liquor store, tattoo parlor, pawn shop, or ministorage unit. Thats all I was trying to say, jerk!Last edited on Mon Oct 20th, 2008 04:12 pm by stevem
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stevem wrote: I for one applaud this measure to increase parking. I am often frustrated when I go down to New Street to buy some crack and a toothless prostitute only to find there is no place for me to park. Same situation when I go down there to get my haircut at one of the 8 "barber shops" (drug fronts), the kinky lingerie store, or visit the House of PRIDE (shame), dovers premier drug rehab center located right on the scenic main street for all the tourists to see. As a Dover resident, this new parking will definately attract me and out of town visitors back to downtown dover so we can browse the countless empty store fronts, be harrassed by the bums, and admire the artwork of local artists "Poop" and "Sure".
please stop with the racist trolling. no one finds it funny or witty.
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If you car had been stolen, neither of you would have been covered by your insurance company for the loss, because you left it unlocked. Read your policy.
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How disappointed they must have been Fred!
My son had someone take his CD case out and he found the CDs scattered nearby in the parking lot (at CRHS, a few years ago.) He thought it might constitute an insult on his taste in music, lol. I have a few CDs in my car, nothing I can't replace if someone really decides they need Jimmy Buffett or Bread to add to their collection. They're also welcome to take the box of tissues, the first aid kit or the blanket and pillow in the back. None of those are worth what broken glass would cost me.
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I for one applaud this measure to increase parking. I am often frustrated when I go down to New Street to buy some crack and a toothless prostitute only to find there is no place for me to park. Same situation when I go down there to get my haircut at one of the 8 "barber shops" (drug fronts), the kinky lingerie store, or visit the House of PRIDE (shame), dovers premier drug rehab center located right on the scenic main street for all the tourists to see. As a Dover resident, this new parking will definately attract me and out of town visitors back to downtown dover so we can browse the countless empty store fronts, be harrassed by the bums, and admire the artwork of local artists "Poop" and "Sure".
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How disappointed they must have been Fred!
My son had someone take his CD case out and he found the CDs scattered nearby in the parking lot (at CRHS, a few years ago.) He thought it might constitute an insult on his taste in music, lol. I have a few CDs in my car, nothing I can't replace if someone really decides they need Jimmy Buffett or Bread to add to their collection. They're also welcome to take the box of tissues, the first aid kit or the blanket and pillow in the back. None of those are worth what broken glass would cost me.
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I don't lock my doors, either, for the same reasons. Nothing in the car is ever worth stealing.
One time I had the car in a parking garage in Wilmington, and got called out because someone had broken my car window. There were two things in there, as far as I could figure out...my wife's clutch, which had nothing in it, and a CD Case that I guess they thought had music in it. Probably were somewhat disapointed to find out they were computer software and hardware drivers....
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DelawareNative wrote: Making Lookerman a one-way street would be a good idea. I think that it was better for Newark overall. I wish there were more positive comments here.
Making all streets one-way out of town would be a positive development.
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"You are tempting fate. You should always lock your car doors!"
I know. I tend to do it more at night, but mostly it just seems like a hassle, going around to 4 doors to lock them. There's nothing in my car worth stealing and if they think there is, they won't have to break the glass to get to it. And if they need a vehicle badly enough to steal mine, they're obviously desperate and can have it.
I always lock my doors when going through a city - Philly, DC, Baltimore. How funny is it that my friend's mom, born and raised in Philly, is scared to death when she comes down here? Won't go anywhere at night, thinks it's way too dark down here (ie, no streetlights out in the country), uncomfortable on Rt 13, keeps the doors locked at her daughter's house all day. But in the city, she's perfectly fine. Where are we actually safer and how real is our perception of safety and danger? Perception and reality are interesting.
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Posted: Mon Oct 13th, 2008 03:00 am |
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Making Lookerman a one-way street would be a good idea. I think that it was better for Newark overall. I wish there were more positive comments here.
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Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 03:29 am |
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When automobiles became commonplace a century ago, the Loockerman Street parking was angled right both east and west. The old photos look like 45 degree turns.
Now, most vehicles are bigger than those from days of yore, but we could either have the above parking on one side of the street and have 2 way traffic, or be like Newark. There, Main Street is one way west, but we could have that head in parking unlike Newark, and on both sides of the street.
Admittedly, this might require making Division Street one way on the opposite direction of Loockerman. Making the latter west to east, and the former east to west, might work.
Thoughts?
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Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 12:14 am |
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| Fred, I admit even I don't like to parallel park. Especially if there are a line of cars behind me! I don't mind walking a bit but I'll drive around until I can find a parallel spot I can just glide right in to!! You got me on that one!
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 07:35 pm |
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violetdragonfly wrote: I'm in (and parking in) downtown Dover 5 days a week. Have had no problems at any time, have never been approached or accosted, have had nothing stolen from my (usually unlocked) car. I enjoy Bel Boutique, Bell Book & Candle, Forneys, Maxine's, Ancient Way, and several of the lunch places including Simarons, my sons go to Bike Werks and BBC. I've also enjoyed poking around the thrift shop there. No problems in 3 years.
You are tempting fate. You should always lock your car doors!
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 07:26 pm |
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Fred wrote: And you are right about parking....people have different standards when it comes to on street versus parking lots....
Do you think it has anything to do with a fear, it seems in some people down here, of parallel parking?
Fred I think you may be right about the parallel parking. Those who learned to drive
in the country may not have learned how to parallel park because they didn't need
to most of the time. I grew up in the city and you had to know how to parallel park
but since I very rarely need to park that way, I am not so good at it anymore.
Just out of practice. It can be stressful to try and park on Loockerman St due to
the amount of traffic. You also have to watch out for the bikes!
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 01:46 pm |
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I get to 33 West about once every couple of months. Probably should get to it more often....great place.
And you are right about parking....people have different standards when it comes to on street versus parking lots....
Do you think it has anything to do with a fear, it seems in some people down here, of parallel parking?
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Posted: Sat Oct 11th, 2008 12:11 am |
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It's a start at least. I'm in (and parking in) downtown Dover 5 days a week. Have had no problems at any time, have never been approached or accosted, have had nothing stolen from my (usually unlocked) car. I enjoy Bel Boutique, Bell Book & Candle, Forneys, Maxine's, Ancient Way, and several of the lunch places including Simarons, my sons go to Bike Werks and BBC. I've also enjoyed poking around the thrift shop there. No problems in 3 years.
It's funny though that the same people who won't walk half a block in Dover will walk twice as far at the Mall parking lot. And there have been people robbed there, not too long ago a young woman was robbed at gunpoint. Most of the crime in the bad areas of Dover is resident on resident, people hanging on the streets and having a beef with each other. It may happen, but I haven't heard of anyone being robbed going to or leaving Forney's or 33 West.
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Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 01:34 am |
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I would rather be confident that I could safely walk to and from my car and find it when I got back.
Fred wrote:
I think Tom hit the nail on the head when he said that people want to park right in front of the store they are going to, and don't want to walk a half a block.
I would rather park and walk 3 minutes rather than waste 10 minutes looking for a close spot.
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 11:55 pm |
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That parking lot will simply be a spot to congregate unless the DPD sits there daily after sunset and all day on weekends.
Some folks just refuse to understand: you have to rid the surrounding area of the slums before anything viable will survive west of Loockerman and State. There is not sufficient foot traffic in Downtown Dover to support business.
The theater and the re-opened Loockerman Exchange may succeed, but they'll need help, long term.
Gut the slums on Governors between Wesley College and the Firehouse, and on Kirkwood, New, Queen, and West Streets. Replace them with single family, owner occupied detatched houses, either rebuilds or new construction. Once folks with money occupy the surrounding area, the businesses will come to Loockerman. The buildings are there. Just sign the lease or purchase contract, renovate the interior as needed, and open up for business.
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 03:11 pm |
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| Increasing numbers of vacant storefronts is what fills the Dover streetscape. Exactly what the city government and the remaining merchants deserve, because neither does anything constructive to improve the situation.
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 03:00 pm |
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Park and go to what? There hasn't been many stores worth going there since Sears left way way way back.
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