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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 02:32 pm |
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Sure it is...but part of that has to be the education of the employees by the company, knowing that for some, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
We hire a variety of contractors in several different catagories. The ones who make the most money are those who paid pretty much directly by the company, and get paid a lot of cash...somewhere around $60-75 an hour in some catagories, with roughly 2,000 potential billable hours per yea (and these are for some of our more technical jobs...not the most technical, but close to it). However, they get nothing else...if they don't work, they don't get paid, they have to pay all their own taxes, including all of SS, they don't get health care, they don't get vacation, sick leave, or any other form of pay if they are not there. It works great if you are retired, or you have a spouse where you get your benefits. There is a risk however; we've got one guy who was in this catagory who is now going through a divorce, and might lose his health care...so he is scrambling now.
We also have contractors we hire through third party companies who get serviced through them, so they do get some of these things, and their pay is roughly equal to the employees....some more, some less.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 02:10 pm |
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| Judged by the company you keep.
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Posted: Fri Oct 31st, 2008 02:08 pm |
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| Now just because you had a bad experience with some staff members does not mean the entire nursing staff in incompetent.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30th, 2008 11:35 pm |
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I can see that Fred. It still was hard for the nurses to take and I can understand that too. When an employer won't give you a raise but will pay someone else double or triple to come in and do the same job, it kinda bites, even with benefits.
I do know that it wasn't because these nurses had special training or skills. They were doing the same work, side by side with BH nurses, or covering shifts or days off or when on emergency bed status. They weren't doing anything more than the regular nurses. And I can't fault the nurses that I knew when I worked there. They were the ones there on the frontlines, so to speak. My issues were more with admin than the workforce. The people that are there 24/7 - nursing, housekeeping, maintenance, food services, phone services, unit clerks - those are the backbone of a hospital. Most of the nurses I knew took great pride in their work and cared for their patients very well, and that is from a staffer's view as well as a former patient.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29th, 2008 03:05 am |
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| Or, Violet, that double the pay may still be cheaper than having a full time staff person. Add in benefits, vacation, retirement and a host of other things, double the pay may well be the break even point.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29th, 2008 02:39 am |
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| It's because the regular nursing staff at BH is not qualified by knowledge or their work experience to receive twice as much pay. If you would ever have been a patient there, you would know what I mean.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 11:09 pm |
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| When I worked there, nurses told me of these contract nurses they hired to fill the gaps in the staff. These nurses were making twice as much as the nurses who'd been there many years! That made no sense to me, instead of hiring temp workers at double the wages, why not pay more to the loyal, local staffers who spend 10, 20, 30 years there? I know it rankled with the ones I talked to, that someone came in here and there and made more money than those that had spent years there.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 01:23 pm |
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Well if BHMC is doing their own Cardiac Procedures so frequently now on site, explain why so many are still being sent to CCH. I know for a fact of at least 4 in the last month that were sent to CCH after spending 3,4,5 days in IMC as a "guest" of BHMC, all for simple everyday procedures. I agree the problem with BHMC is the administration and their desire to build rather than pay staff members decent wages. I've heard it said many times, what good is this new expanded Emergency Department going to do when they can't keep up with what they have? The difference will be instead of sitting in the waiting area, you'll sit back in a room. Oh but of course once placed back in that room they can then collect the charges for the use of that room. Something they can't do while you sit in the waiting area.
when you say development it most certainly must apply to real estate purchases and building because they show nothing much beyond that that anyone can see.

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Posted: Wed Oct 22nd, 2008 06:07 am |
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| Bayhealth does actually do the majority of their cardiac cases now. Rarely does anyone get shipped to another facility. Let's give credit where credit is due. As for the shortage of doctors and nurses......that is so right. Maybe if the administration would pay their staff better they would be able to retain and recruit more people. But I guess the money for the development must come from somewhere.
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Posted: Fri Oct 17th, 2008 07:21 pm |
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To answer your question as to why those individuals are still airlifted to Christiana Hospital - it is because Christiana is STILL the ONLY Level 1 Trauma Center in the State.
Anyone in a MVC determined to be a priority 1 patient is sent there, lower priority victims are sent to KGH, MMH, NMH to be stabilized and then transported north as needed.
What I fail to understand is how BHMC attained such a high raiting for Cardiac Care when they still send the majority of cases to Christiana for surgery and treatment. Obviously you have to have a specific last name or relationship to some big wig to be privilidged enough to grace their cardiac care wing.
Don't expect things to get better with the Big Additions they are making either because you can have all the rooms in the world but when you don't have the Staff (doctors and nurses) to tend to them, you can't put patients in them.
And that's my 5 cents.. 
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Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 02:04 am |
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What do *I* think? I think they've come a long way. I'm also surprised that they rated above Christiana in cardiac and critical care, considering they just started their open heart surgery program in the recent past and MVA traumas are still routinely airlifted north. Even last week, an accident occurred on Hazlettville Rd, just a few miles from KGH and the person was airlifted to Christiana.
However, looking at how few hospitals we really have in DE, I'm not surprised. It's not a nationwide rating, just in Delaware. It's not like there are hundreds of hospitals in the state. Can't be too hard to beat out the competition when you're one of what, five or six, counting hospitals that have trauma/critical care/cardiac centers.
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Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 12:49 am |
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| Why don't you start one up. Oh by the way, you also need to make enough money to pay the staff.
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Posted: Wed Oct 15th, 2008 12:47 am |
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This cannot be a serious article. It should have been saved for April 1 - April Fools' Day.
It is a sad commentary that Kent County Delaware has but 2 hospitals, both owned by the same corporation. Others owned by different groups are needed.
Remember, the rising tide lifts all boats. They'll be good, and Bayhealth will have to improve to keep pace and remain profitable.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14th, 2008 04:03 pm |
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What do you think?
From the Delaware State News: Bayhealth earns top care ratings
Dover, Milford facilities high in critical, cardiac medicine
By Andrew Abel
Delaware State News
DOVER — When HealthGrades, an independent health care ratings company, released the findings of its 11th Annual Hospital Quality in America Study Monday, Bayhealth Medical Center found itself a cut above the rest, earning a No. 1 ranking in Delaware in overall critical care, cardiac services, cardiac surgery and cardiology services.
Bayhealth also earned a five-star rating for treatment of respiratory failure, sepsis, heart attack, heart failure and valve replacement surgery.
The study analyzed more than 41 million Medicare hospitalization records from 2005-07 at both Bayhealth hospitals, Kent General in Dover and Milford Memorial in Milford.
HealthGrades rates 5,000 nonfederal hospitals nationwide on 27 procedures based upon patient outcomes in terms of mortality and complication rates. According to the study, if all hospitals performed at the five-star level, 273,420 deaths potentially could have been prevented over the three years studied.
"To patients, these scores mean (by choosing Bayhealth) they have a better chance of coming out alive," said Dr. Gary M Siegelman, chief medical officer at Bayhealth-Kent General Hospital.
"We’re pleased with the findings," said Dr. John D. Mannion, medical director of cardiac surgery at the hospital. "It means we’re on the right path and we’re taking good care of our patients."
While Bayhealth received five-star ratings for several treatments, the actual procedures are not the biggest part of providing a good service, said Dr. Mannion. The initial intake sessions before a procedure and the rehabilitation afterwards are just as important as the procedure itself.
"A good outcome would not be possible without a collaborative effort of the entire staff," Dr. Mannion said.
Dr. Siegelman notes an influx of patients coming to the hospital from Sussex County and parts of Maryland because of the quality of service the hospital provides.
With the advent of organizations like HeakthGrades that make information about health care more accessible to the public, patients are becoming savvier consumers, at least for elective care services, he said.
"In general, the public is more aware of and has greater access to information about facilities," Dr. Siegelman said. "It’s important to be educated when looking for health care, but you don’t really have a choice if you’re in the ambulance on the way to the hospital."
Dr. Mannion believes it’s important to have a quality program for local residents.
"People don’t always want to travel for health care services," Dr. Mannion said, "especially when there’s acute or semi-acute conditions in which there’s no choice but to go to the nearest hospital."
Both the public and the hospital take the scores seriously.
"Nobody wants to be a one-star facility," Dr. Siegelman said. "While they are helpful, HealthGrades’ statistics aren’t the only resource to consult when choosing a health care provider."
Dr. Mannion and Dr. Siegelman both agree that the best advice will come from family physicians.
Post your opinions in the public issues forum at newszap.com.
Staff writer Andrew Abel can be reached at 741-8272 or aabel@newszap.com.
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