Home | Advertise Online | Archives | Coupons | Marketplace | Newszap Media Kit | Site Feedback | Subscriptions

 Home
 Search       Members   Calendar   Help   Home 
Search by username
Not logged in - Login | Register 

Who said this?
 
 New Topic   Reply   Print 
AuthorPost
Disgusted
Member
 

Joined: Thu Sep 29th, 2005
Location: Dover
Posts: 708
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Wed Jun 3rd, 2009 01:43 am
 Quote  Reply 
The decisions of Judge Sotomayor have been reversed on appeal in 60% of the cases she has heard.  This alone should cause major concern as to her knowledge and proper application of law, and perhaps also her judicial temperament.

However, if she should not be confirmed, look for the President to either send her back until the Senate confirms her, or nominates an even more leftist person to the Souter vacancy.

If we wanted a more Conservative nominee, we should not have elected  Barack Obama to the Presidency.

Zoospore
Member
 

Joined: Thu Apr 16th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 113
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2009 07:38 pm
 Quote  Reply 
Of course she is a valid pick, that is patently obvious. As for the compassion part, you are only fooling yourself if you think judges dont employ it when rendering a verdict. No law is so narrowly constructed that there is only one outcome whether guilty or innocent. 

It is a well known fact that sentences vary, Fred. Why do you suppose that is? At least some of the time it is precisely because the judge has compassion for the offender or the victim.

It is your posture that doesnt hold water. You need to replace the screen doors on your idealogical submarine.

Fred
Member


Joined: Mon Oct 10th, 2005
Location: Dover, Delaware USA
Posts: 8242
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2009 01:12 pm
 Quote  Reply 
Sorry, but that doesn't hold water.  First, what does "compassion" have to do with the rule of law, if you are so high and mighty on it?  The law is the law, and the fact that he said these things at his hearing makes it much worse, not better.  Shoot, I even left out parts that are even further proof of what he said.

Or is refering to your background only allowed when you are perceived as a white guy and you want to show that YOU do have an ethnic background?

No, she is not "scary", other then that ANY person who doesn't think like you want them to think is "scary".  Harriet Myers was scary, even to right wingers, because she had no background and no credibility.  I didn't like John Roberts slant on things, but I acknowledge that he was a valid pick...as is she.


 

Last edited on Tue Jun 2nd, 2009 01:13 pm by Fred

Zoospore
Member
 

Joined: Thu Apr 16th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 113
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Tue Jun 2nd, 2009 01:04 pm
 Quote  Reply 
Oh I do my research, and I dont take things out of context either. Alito was speaking of the neccessary COMPASSION a judge must have to weigh out a final decision, a fact you conviently left out. That has nothing to do with this topic.

As far as a political move OUTSMARTING the Repubs, there is no smartness here. Hussein can appoint whoever he chooses. That was in the cards BEFORE he got "selected not elected" as president.

Sotomayer is scary precisely because she was caught in a moment of being honest and letting her guard down.

The laughter you hear is canned.   

Fred
Member


Joined: Mon Oct 10th, 2005
Location: Dover, Delaware USA
Posts: 8242
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Mon Jun 1st, 2009 02:30 pm
 Quote  Reply 
Yawn.  Why not do some research and quote the whole speech instead of an ellipsis...espeically when Justice Alito said pretty much the same thing?

And that's why I went into that in my opening statement. Because when a case comes before me involving, let's say, someone who is an immigrant -- and we get an awful lot of immigration cases and naturalization cases -- I can't help but think of my own ancestors, because it wasn't that long ago when they were in that position.

or, later in the speech...

And that goes down the line. When I get a case about discrimination, I have to think about people in my own family who suffered discrimination because of their ethnic background or because of religion or because of gender. And I do take that into account.

So, unless you are ready RIGHT NOW to start a movement to imeach Alita, STFU. What he said was WAY more "activist" then ANYTHING she has said...and Alita's comments weren't an informal speech but when he was TESTIFYING BEFORE CONGRESS.  Where was your outrage then?

If the best that the Repubs can do is take one speech (or the numchuck case, which even the person who brought the case said it was done on sound legal reasons, and he didn't expect to win)....you are in far worse shape then you think.

Do you see a connection that something like 25% of America does NOT support the nomination...which is roughly the hardcore right?  Everybody else is basically laughing at you, and seeing it strictly as a political move? Yeah, I know that Obama's pick was political, but it was one that outsmarted the hard core right.



 

Last edited on Mon Jun 1st, 2009 02:34 pm by Fred

Zoospore
Member
 

Joined: Thu Apr 16th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 113
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Sun May 31st, 2009 07:37 pm
 Quote  Reply 
Moderate libs, not flaming in your face libs like Hussein likes.

Playing the Game
Member


Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008
Location: Delaware USA
Posts: 5408
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Sun May 31st, 2009 12:48 pm
 Quote  Reply 
But Diva, they are both Liberals who are ready to kick so nothing changes.

dover-diva
Member
 

Joined: Mon Mar 23rd, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 1973
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 05:22 pm
 Quote  Reply 
Porblem is PTG, there are 2 more SC justices ready to fold. What do you think will happen then. A muslim? A mexican, an Illegal?

Playing the Game
Member


Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008
Location: Delaware USA
Posts: 5408
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 05:14 pm
 Quote  Reply 
She is only 1 of 9.  I am not defending her at all and I am not sure about the Presidents message to followers in Las Vegas, but let's get her heard so we can form our own opinions.

Zoospore
Member
 

Joined: Thu Apr 16th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 113
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 01:18 pm
 Quote  Reply 
I agree.

And the really scary part is that this congress will speed read her right on in! Then our country will actually be ruled - yes RULED - by the court. Its the final power grab in that part of the equation.

dover-diva
Member
 

Joined: Mon Mar 23rd, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 1973
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 12:32 am
 Quote  Reply 
Playing the Game wrote: I am more concerned that our President uttered these words at a fund raiser in Las Vegas for Harry Reid.  "I want this woman confirmed, I can't wait until she walks up those white marble steps to the Supreme Court and finally begins to hand out justice."

He spent way too much time with the Rev Wright.

Ya got that (W) right.

Playing the Game
Member


Joined: Wed Jan 30th, 2008
Location: Delaware USA
Posts: 5408
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 10:38 pm
 Quote  Reply 
I am more concerned that our President uttered these words at a fund raiser in Las Vegas for Harry Reid.  "I want this woman confirmed, I can't wait until she walks up those white marble steps to the Supreme Court and finally begins to hand out justice."

He spent way too much time with the Rev Wright.

Zoospore
Member
 

Joined: Thu Apr 16th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 113
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 05:49 pm
 Quote  Reply 
Winner!

Although no one ACTUALLY said it (Newt said "imagine") the point should have been well taken.

I remain curious to see if this makes the news other than a sound bite...

I am not making this up !!!!!!
Member
 

Joined: Fri May 1st, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 207
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 01:57 pm
 Quote  Reply 
From Sotomayor Speech:

If you've been following the story of Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor via cable news, you've undoubtedly heard

this sound bite from a 2001 Sotomayor speech:

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

From Newt Gingrich Twitter:

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich sounded off on President Obama's nominee for the Supreme Court. Using Twitter on Wednesday to voice his concern, Gingrich said, "Imagine a judicial nominee said 'my experience as a white man makes me better than a latina woman. New racism is no better than old racism."

(NEWSCOM)

Zoospore
Member
 

Joined: Thu Apr 16th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 113
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 01:14 pm
 Quote  Reply 
Well if you have the correct answer then you may bask in a full 24 hour period of self righteous smugness knowing full well that you do indeed have a wonderful command of the obscure.

The ANSWER:

It's a trick question. No one actually said it. I simply switched Judge Sotomayor's words to those of a white man saying the same thing for illustrative purposes.

I'm kind of surprised no one commented. I thought it would be too easy.  

I am not making this up !!!!!!
Member
 

Joined: Fri May 1st, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 207
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 04:30 pm
 Quote  Reply 
I have the answer.  What's the prize?

Zoospore
Member
 

Joined: Thu Apr 16th, 2009
Location:  
Posts: 113
Status:  Offline
 Posted: Thu May 28th, 2009 03:48 pm
 Quote  Reply 
Which judicial nominee said 'my experience as a white man makes me better than a latina woman,'"....?

If no one gets it right I will post the true answer later tonight or early tomorrow morning.  


 Current time is 07:19 am



Click here to read our Policies & Disclaimers.
Click here to go to the Newszap.com home page

Powered by WowBB 1.7 - Copyright © 2003-2006 Aycan Gulez
Page processed in 0.2446 seconds (23% database + 77% PHP). 18 queries executed.