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Posted: Thu Mar 26th, 2009 05:30 pm |
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| The rise in violence in schools not just cape,is do to the lack of real authority. mans authority is flawed and seen by teens as such , when you have stories of teachers breaking laws , law makers breaking laws and law inforcment breaking laws its easy for them to see it as somthing they dont need to follow iether as its so flawed.If schools were allowed to teach of where all authority comes from the students might have a greater understanding and level of respect that surpasses the flaw in man.
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violetdragonfly
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Posted: Mon Mar 9th, 2009 10:45 pm |
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| "Parenting isn't a democracy"! Ha, I told my sons the same thing growing up! I told them it's a dictatorship! They had enough friends, I didn't need to be one too. Except for my younger son's 'rough time', they're turning out great so far. My oldest is 22, from all appearances he's a success story. the younger is 17 and seems to have his head screwed back on.
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Bluesman
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Posted: Sun Mar 8th, 2009 03:28 pm |
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I think to many parents especially the ones with high school age children want to be their childs "friend" instead of a parent.
I grew up in a single parent home and my mother was strict, she used to always say "parenting isn't a democracy".
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concered
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Posted: Sat Mar 7th, 2009 05:16 am |
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| When I was in high school I slammed the door on my parents and my father removed my door. I may one day do the same. I believe the cell phones/ texting/ computers/ and the kitchen sinks these kids have today are the root of soooo many issues. Too much communication and not enough discipline.
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The dock of the bay
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Posted: Sat Mar 7th, 2009 03:02 am |
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violetdragonfly wrote: Oh man. If a teacher called me and told me my son had been disrespectful or called him/her a name, he would be sooooo sorry. A couple of years ago, my son got in with a few bad apples, skipping school etc. The other kids ended up being removed from the school at the principal's request. Our son is still there - and doing very well - because we backed the school, met with the VPrincipal and counselors, and let him know that this would not be tolerated. He was stripped of everything except for his bed and dresser for awhile, even his bedroom door was removed. He basically lived on house arrest while we helped him get his rear end straight again. I think the school knew we were doing our best and appreciated our support because he was the only one not kicked out awhile later. He is doing great now, but I'm glad the school helped us out.
I can't believe that another parent did that. I used to take the bedroom door off also. Good job.
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violetdragonfly
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Posted: Sat Mar 7th, 2009 01:07 am |
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| Oh man. If a teacher called me and told me my son had been disrespectful or called him/her a name, he would be sooooo sorry. A couple of years ago, my son got in with a few bad apples, skipping school etc. The other kids ended up being removed from the school at the principal's request. Our son is still there - and doing very well - because we backed the school, met with the VPrincipal and counselors, and let him know that this would not be tolerated. He was stripped of everything except for his bed and dresser for awhile, even his bedroom door was removed. He basically lived on house arrest while we helped him get his rear end straight again. I think the school knew we were doing our best and appreciated our support because he was the only one not kicked out awhile later. He is doing great now, but I'm glad the school helped us out.
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Bluesman
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Posted: Sat Mar 7th, 2009 12:47 am |
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| Teachers are the ones at risk the most as far as staff goes they have daily direct contact with upwards of 150 + students in their classes alone.
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The dock of the bay
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Posted: Mon Mar 2nd, 2009 10:33 pm |
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| Unfortunately, violence and gangs seem to have a foot hold in our schools. Parents are the basic key to stopping the violence. Parents have either forgotten how to parent or they lack this skill. Sadly, the most parents of violent children promote this type of behavior or just don't care that their child/children has this type of behavior. Being an administrator or teacher is risky business these days.
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Bluesman
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Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2009 03:48 pm |
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My wife and I share the same sentiment as your views. As an example she and other teachers will try to call home like they are supposed to after an incident only to:
a) find the contact number is either no good or just a friends cell phone number
b) get an answering machine and leave a message, never receiving a return phone call.
I personally can relate to your feelings about safety I worry about my wifes safety, not so much at Cape but I did worry for about 2 years after she was assaulted the first time. I take time every school year to go in and meet every student that my wife teaches, to hopefully get the students to realize "hey this teacher is really somebodies wife, husband, mom, dad" and disrespecting them is no different than disrespecting their mom, dad, boyfirend, girlfriend or whomever.
I met one class this year that was a bit unruly when my wife tried to introduce me. The several students finally settled down because their peers the other students took control of their own environment and told them to be quiet.
Ironically one of the disruptive students asked me if I was a teacher and I explained " No I'm not because I would not have the patience to deal with disruptive and disrespectful students such as yourself. My time, as is your fellow classmates is just as vauable as yours, and if you want to waste time that is your choice, but that does not give you the right to infringe upon your fellow classmates time that they want for education."
I personally am so tired of the sense and attitude of "entitlement" many of todays young adults and even elementary age children have.
I also worry about the new generation of "latch key children" they have become the norm in today's society affecting every school district....... in every state. It is frightening and sad how many students and their families are actually homeless as well in some districts.
As a former 10 year school board member in Massachusetts before moving to Delaware this is my own observation cut and dry
Parents need to attend and be more vocal at school board meetings, about issues. School board members aren't mind readers...parents need to provide input be it positive or negative.
I did attend one Cape henlopen board meeting an the beginning of the school year where teachers made a presentation about the system of discipline. I did not see very many parents, if any parents at the meeting. That would have been an opportunity for possible public input about some of the issues you have mentioned.
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Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2009 03:06 pm |
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I agree. My child has never been in trouble once not even a detention. The consequences at home would be far worse then the school punishment. I have instilled good values and if I ever caught wind of disrespect I would nip it. I just wish all parents attitudes were the same. I have seen the "not my child" thing soooo much. It only takes that 1% to cause damage. I just worry. My goal as a parent is to keep my children safe and create good citizens. Thanks for your time.
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Bluesman
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Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2009 11:40 am |
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Concerned,
My wife is a teacher at the high school, your child may even have her. She has taught in Delaware for 3 years and has never been threatened or assaulted by a student, while teaching in this state. She was however physically assaulted 5 years ago by a student (6'4" tall wrestler, my wife is only 5' 0") where she taught before in another state.
There are plans in place to prevent "situations" As an example the knife incident that ocured last week at the high school. The student did not even reach the building he was wrestled to the ground by Mr. Robert Maull and the police were already on the way. No students were injured no employees were injured, thank GOD. Had it not been for a student doing the right thing and informing the proper authorities what was overheard was going to happen, who knows what the outcome might have been.
I understand your concern as a parent, BUT what I have noticed over the last 7 years that my wife has been teaching I've never heard a parent once say what can they do help.
As parents we have to instill values concerning violence and reporting potential acts of violence to the proper authorities.
We have to instill upon our children to stand up to their peers and take the same position violence will not be tolerated by the majority, this is our school and it is the minority less than 1% of the student body who are the troublemakers.
What can you or any other parent do to insure that my wife won't get assaulted by your child?
What can/will any parent do when my wife gets called a b**ch or the C word, and she takes the time to call you as a parent to report it?
Will a parent punish their child, or will it just get brushed it off, "Johnnie you know better"?
Issues in school like viloence and disrespect and just as much the parents responsibility as it is the employees of any school district.
Respect and that is all it comes down to is the word RESPECT is the responsibility and duty of every parent to teach their children not the schools.
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Posted: Sun Mar 1st, 2009 01:08 am |
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I agree with you on both ends. However, if the schools continue to "respond" rather than have an action plan for prevention, then there will always be violence waiting for a reaction or lack there of...I know its no one's goal to see children injured but what is being done to protect the children who truly want to enjoy there highschool/junior high years? Its a sad to see knives/weapons/assaults/ in our schools. I'm just a parent who wants the situation to improve. I have no political agenda but I want to know what can be done and if there are any others out there that feel the way I do. I have friends who are teachers at both the high school and the middle school. The high school teachers, even before the girls fight, have been afraid of being assaulted by the students. They turn a blind eye on occasion because of the lack enforcement on discipline. They felt the kick back from students. Its unreal. This is Lewes delaware but it has the same potential as any other part of the country if poor bahavior is permitted. These situations will only get worse. Thanks for responding.
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Bluesman
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Posted: Sat Feb 28th, 2009 11:49 pm |
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concered wrote: I would like to know if ALL of the mandatory documentation and police reporting is being completed for ALL assaults on students all of the time. The violence that is happening in the Cape district is becoming alarming. I have friends who are teachers in Middle and High School and they are affraid to be there because they are not getting support. Are these records (obviously not names) public knowledge? How do we know if mandatory reporting is actually happening. Rumor has it, its not... I never like to believe rumor but today its girls fighting/ a teacher in the ER/ but what happened to the student assaulted in the Beacon Bathroom last week? No where- and I know that one happened-I saw that boy in the ER.
In regard to the fight involving the 2 girls at the high school the police were called and they responded. High school teachers are getting "support" in the sense that there are disciplinarians who respond immediately to a situation when needed. The real support issue seems to be with the consequence part and punishments handed down, for students actions. There are disagreements over what are basic mutually agreed upon fundamental punishments.
In my opinion the letter that went home with the students clearly states Mr. Yore's position that there will be 0% tolerence for any violence on the high school campus.
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Posted: Sat Feb 28th, 2009 08:09 pm |
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Just a typo...
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Posted: Sat Feb 28th, 2009 08:06 pm |
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| What does concered mean? Or, do you mean 'concerned'?
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Posted: Thu Feb 26th, 2009 02:32 am |
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| I would like to know if ALL of the mandatory documentation and police reporting is being completed for ALL assaults on students all of the time. The violence that is happening in the Cape district is becoming alarming. I have friends who are teachers in Middle and High School and they are affraid to be there because they are not getting support. Are these records (obviously not names) public knowledge? How do we know if mandatory reporting is actually happening. Rumor has it, its not... I never like to believe rumor but today its girls fighting/ a teacher in the ER/ but what happened to the student assaulted in the Beacon Bathroom last week? No where- and I know that one happened-I saw that boy in the ER.
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